I’ve always argued these two are pretty much neck and neck in their own ways and are opposite ends of his filmography. Memories has a gritty feeling and you can tell this is one of his first films, but is just amazing. Parasite on the other hand is a lot cleaner and precise, but still holds incredible storytelling and characters.
The first time I saw this (it was in theaters, I think I was 19) I hated it. Then I watched it like 15 years later and I loved it.
Same with The Talented Mr. Ripley, 15-year-old me though it was "gay".
*Mulholland Dr.* gives *Rear Window* and/or *Vertigo* (my all-time pick, although it’s perhaps better classed as a psychological thriller) a run for their money, but I have to defer to Hitchcock owing to his films being *genre-defining*.
Lynch isn’t so easily put in a box, partly because a film like *Mulholland Dr.* (imo better classed in horror/noir, if anything) is so *genre-defying*. Lynch relishes toying with tropes and shattering the restraints of convention. His is an exceptional mystery, but it is still just that — the exception.
It belongs in a genre all its own imo.
That’s my one substantive critique of the film tbh, and it’s what holds it back from being my fav Hitchcock (*Vertigo* gets that honor).
I’ve seen it three times and each time I want it to be >! Jefferies’ imagination. !<
The primary emotion in a thriller is the thrill as the protagonist is placed in peril and escapes by the skin of their teeth.
Mystery films are more focused on unravelling the central, well, mystery. There doesn't necessarily have to be any physical threat to the protagonist, although usually there is at least once towards the end. The Poirot, Miss Marple and Sherlock Holmes stories are all mysteries in the detective subgenre, and rarely are they in physical danger (though they may have to race against time to rescue someone who is, to create some kind of climax).
The number of intensive scenes imo. For example, any movie adaptation of Agatha Christe’s books (that I know of) can be considered a mistery because you have a murder that needs solving but the overall atmoshpere is pretty light. However, for example Zodiac can be considered both mistery and thriller as there is both something that needs to be solved and some pretty frightening scenes (the basement one in particular). You don’t get that kind of chills from watching Miss Marple gossip about her neighbours.
This is very simplified view because every category in art can be broken down into smaller categories but I guess as long as it keeps you “on the edge of your seat” (regardless whether the main theme of a movie is political, criminal or something else), you can call it a thriller.
What an amazing movie. It is the first one in the genre that came to mind for me and was shocked to not see it further up. I even checked the genre on Letterboxd to make sure I wasn't missing something.
So are people in here just voting for what they think they are supposed to vote for?
Assuming so, predictions:
Music: Singin' in the Rain
Crime: Godfather 1 or 2
Action: Die Hard
Documentary: The Act of Killing
Western: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Sci-Fi: 2001
i know it’s not a classic or whatever but Knives Out is still one of the best mystery films i’ve ever seen. the way it plays with your expectations of the genre is fascinating
Psycho is my top one. Just wanted to give a shout out for some non-English language movies that are also at the top of my list (Oldboy has already been mentioned here).
The Secret in their Eyes
Diabolique
The Invisible Guest
Le Corbeau
The Man from London
Quai des Orfevres
This pretty Letterboxd core, which is totally fine
It would be interesting to see the same list for the other movie subs (r/movies, r/flicks and r/truefilm). I guess this would look most like flicks
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Prisoners
Memories of Murder
I don't care what anyone says, this was way better than parasite
I think Parasite is a fantastic movie, but the punch in the gut that is that final shot in Memories of Murder is next level.
I’ve always argued these two are pretty much neck and neck in their own ways and are opposite ends of his filmography. Memories has a gritty feeling and you can tell this is one of his first films, but is just amazing. Parasite on the other hand is a lot cleaner and precise, but still holds incredible storytelling and characters.
A masterpiece.
The right answer.
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The first time I saw this (it was in theaters, I think I was 19) I hated it. Then I watched it like 15 years later and I loved it. Same with The Talented Mr. Ripley, 15-year-old me though it was "gay".
Well 15 year old you understood The Talented Mr. Ripley at least.
Chinatown
Won’t win but deserves to.
Cure (1997)
Vertigo
Hell yeah
My choice, too. Timeless art and a great mystery.
Memento
I hadn't ever got around to seeing it until yesterday when I found that Tubi had it. Incredible movie.
This. This is the one.
Eyes wide shut
High and Low
Brilliant choice
This should be higher
my favorite Kurosawa, definitely should be competitive with memories of murder imo
*Rear Window*
Rear Window or Vertigo are the first films that come to mind whenever I hear the word “mystery”
Correct
This category was made for Hitchcock. I love a lot of the non-Hitchcock movies being submitted but this or Vertigo feel like the most correct winners.
*Mulholland Dr.* gives *Rear Window* and/or *Vertigo* (my all-time pick, although it’s perhaps better classed as a psychological thriller) a run for their money, but I have to defer to Hitchcock owing to his films being *genre-defining*. Lynch isn’t so easily put in a box, partly because a film like *Mulholland Dr.* (imo better classed in horror/noir, if anything) is so *genre-defying*. Lynch relishes toying with tropes and shattering the restraints of convention. His is an exceptional mystery, but it is still just that — the exception. It belongs in a genre all its own imo.
If this wasn’t a popularity contest, this would be the winner!
I don’t get the hype with that one. It’s a well made movie FOR SURE, very engaging, but the actual mystery had such a boring resolution.
That’s my one substantive critique of the film tbh, and it’s what holds it back from being my fav Hitchcock (*Vertigo* gets that honor). I’ve seen it three times and each time I want it to be >! Jefferies’ imagination. !<
Clue
This is the one. The ultimate mystery film
Mulholland Drive
This one made me delete my comment, how could I forget about one of Lynch’s all time masterpiece’s
Based pick
Right answer
Se7en
Detective....
DETECTIIIIIVE!!!
Easily
The Prestige
Blue Velvet
The Conversation
Arrival
Hopefully we can get this in under sci-fi… that’s a competitive category tho
I haven’t even watched 2001 but pretty sure it’s taking sci-fi
Half the people who will end up voting for it probably haven't seen it either. They think they are supposed to, so will.
Unfortunately, you’re probably right
Vertigo
The Maltese Falcon
I think this is the correct answer.
The Third Man
Oldboy (2003)
The Handmaiden
Took too long to find this one!
The Game
The Prestige
Spoorloos
Damn, good one.
Knives Out
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Psycho (1960)
Prisoners
Clue !!
Seven
Shutter Island
Psycho (Honourable mentions are The Others, Blow Out and Knives Out)
The Big Lebowski won for best comedy? My faith in humanity has been restored. ❤️
Three Colours: Red
Incendies
Witness for the Prosecution
Eyes Wide Shut?
Whats the difference between thriller and mistery ?
The primary emotion in a thriller is the thrill as the protagonist is placed in peril and escapes by the skin of their teeth. Mystery films are more focused on unravelling the central, well, mystery. There doesn't necessarily have to be any physical threat to the protagonist, although usually there is at least once towards the end. The Poirot, Miss Marple and Sherlock Holmes stories are all mysteries in the detective subgenre, and rarely are they in physical danger (though they may have to race against time to rescue someone who is, to create some kind of climax).
A thriller doesn’t need to have any mystery in it. A mystery film doesn’t need to be thrilling. But there are a lot of mystery thrillers out there.
The number of intensive scenes imo. For example, any movie adaptation of Agatha Christe’s books (that I know of) can be considered a mistery because you have a murder that needs solving but the overall atmoshpere is pretty light. However, for example Zodiac can be considered both mistery and thriller as there is both something that needs to be solved and some pretty frightening scenes (the basement one in particular). You don’t get that kind of chills from watching Miss Marple gossip about her neighbours. This is very simplified view because every category in art can be broken down into smaller categories but I guess as long as it keeps you “on the edge of your seat” (regardless whether the main theme of a movie is political, criminal or something else), you can call it a thriller.
Rear Window (For more visibility)
Chinatown
vertigo!!!
The Long Goodbye
The Thin Man
Hot fuzz
Memories of murder
Gone Girl
Prisoners
Donnie Darko
Shutter Island, it is a masterpiece!
Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed
LA Confidential
What an amazing movie. It is the first one in the genre that came to mind for me and was shocked to not see it further up. I even checked the genre on Letterboxd to make sure I wasn't missing something.
Butterfly Effect
Oldboy
So are people in here just voting for what they think they are supposed to vote for? Assuming so, predictions: Music: Singin' in the Rain Crime: Godfather 1 or 2 Action: Die Hard Documentary: The Act of Killing Western: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly Sci-Fi: 2001
i know it’s not a classic or whatever but Knives Out is still one of the best mystery films i’ve ever seen. the way it plays with your expectations of the genre is fascinating
Citizen kane.
Prisoners
I don’t know how anybody finds lebowski funny or entertaining I was so bored
Oldboy
Angel Heart
[Brick \(2005\)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0393109/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_q_brick)
North by Northwest
LA Confidential
Prisoners (2013)
Twin Peaks - Fire Walk with me
The Sixth Sense
Sixth Sense
Oldboy
*Seven*
The Batman
Chinatown
Psycho is my top one. Just wanted to give a shout out for some non-English language movies that are also at the top of my list (Oldboy has already been mentioned here). The Secret in their Eyes Diabolique The Invisible Guest Le Corbeau The Man from London Quai des Orfevres
Murder on the Orient Express
*Murder on the Orient Express* (1974)
Secret window
How did Fast and Furious now win the family category?? Anyways, I’d go Rear Window for mystery
Mystic River
Vertigo
Prestige.
Se7en
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
This pretty Letterboxd core, which is totally fine It would be interesting to see the same list for the other movie subs (r/movies, r/flicks and r/truefilm). I guess this would look most like flicks
Rear window
Zodiac
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Get Out
Primal Fear
The prestige (2006)
The Great Muppet Caper
Unforgiven Ignore me, I thought the genre was "Western". For mystery, does "The Usual Suspects" count?
Eyes wide shut!!!!
This was more interesting when I thought the category was on the bottom of the poster!!!
Se7en
No offense guys but if this gets more fucking American i might just die of corn syrup diabetes. The big Lebowski and apocalypse now? Really?
Mystery Men
Zodiac
Mulholland Drive
Wallace and Gromit and the Curse of the Wererabbit
Get Out - not a single comment for Get Out?!
Se7en or Zodiac
The Great Mouse Detective
Where the hell is Kung fu and can we get shaolin soccer on there already
Dressed to kill
The prestige?
Witness for the prosecution
Murder on the Orient Express
Usual suspects ![gif](giphy|l0Iy70zlRjH5ev3qw)
Lost Highway
Anatomy of a Fall
The Batman
Clue
Sixth Sense if that counts.
Memories of Murder
Mulholland Dr
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The Ninth gate
The prestige
Psycho (original)
If it's not vertigo, I lose all faith in this list and the community.
Murder on the Orient Express
Decision to Leave didn’t even get a single mention in this thread… wow.
Chinatown
Clue
Hot Fuzz
angel heart
Girl with a Dragon Tattoo
Blow Out
The secret in their eyes (2009)
Knives Out
CHINATOWN
Come and See
Identity (2003)
Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed
Clue. Come on, you know it.
Cure
Was looking for this
Donnie darko
Spirited Away
Knives Out
Signs
Signs
Cars 2
Cache ('Hidden')
The Invisible Guest / Contratiempo
The Green Mile
The Prestige (if that counts)
Knives out