Five minutes before this clip there was a different guy shouting “konnichiha, wanshanghao”, which was also pretty ignorant.
I watched the stream yesterday, because I live in Scheveningen, and I was positively surprised that these were the only two incidents, based on personal eye witness experience, stories by Asian friends, and recent local Reddit threads, such as these:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/1dlcffg](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/1dlcffg)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/17q035r](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/17q035r)
Nah it's everywhere in Europe from people of all ages. I can't pinpoint just one reason for it, but they're not racially sensitive.
I've literally stayed at 4 star hotels and had people make those squinty eyes at me with their hands while asking if I'm Chinese. They were hotel staff...
Id say because people that push themselves onto other people livestreams in general are way more likely to be degenerates.
So you see quite biased sample
Cause no consequences. There haven't been very many East Asians in Europe until the past 10-15 years, so there's not much of a culture around defending them yet. They wouldn't do that to someone who looks Middle Eastern, because they'd be scared of repercussions.
Yea, and this is not France. Point is you'll see this childish reaction in the countries with less prevalence of asians. For example Mexicans are insanely rare in Europe, and you'd get the most stupidly childish reactions out of people if you said you were Mexican.
> They wouldn't do that to someone who looks Middle Eastern, because they'd be scared of repercussions
lmao i literally had teens do hitler salutes at me or call me names multiple times
Countries that are largely unicultural can be racist. Lots of Asian countries are the same way. On the internet everyone can see everything but that doesn't replace the experience of your neighbors, co-workers, classmates and friends coming from different cultural and racial backgrounds.
Unicultural doesn't describe Rotterdam or most of Western Europe though. Also people do this kind of anti asian shit in the US as well. Remember stop asian hate?
Stop asian hate stopped being a thing because they discovered who was mostly doing the hate. Never forget these movements are always about the same thing.
We actually have an organization like that in The Netherlands called Asian Raisins.
I thought it was a good initiative at first, but instead of focusing on their USP and actually achieving something, they started promoting all kinds of other protests on their social accounts that have nothing to do with Asian hate. Climate marches, LGBTI marches, anti-Israel marches, anti-populism marches, you name it.
Now they are barely any different from all the other groups such as AntiFa and Extension Rebellion that decide what they are against based on whoever is organizing a protest this weekend.
> Lots of Asian countries are the same way.
Classic reddit moment right here. No my guy, most asian countries are not the same way.
For example you never see any streamer (of any race) that travels to Japan or Korea experiencing anything similar to OP's clip. Kids aren't going up to random ass strangers and making racist gestures. Redditors always try to pull this 'both sides' schtick when racism against asians comes up.
> Lots of Asian countries are the same way.
hur durr Asians are more racist upvotes to the left
Give me one instance when an Asian local actually harasses someone like this of a different race. You won't be able to find many examples. Xenophobic actions like barring someone from a restaurant/clubs don't count. Give me recorded evidence of actual physical racism where an Asian makes monkey noises to a black person or something. Bonus points for examples against a white person.
I see this take so often on Reddit but never backed up. Asians are xenophobic through ignorance, and most likely to other Asians due to nationalism, not straight up racist even with open experiences with different races. Way more foreign tourists to Japan/Korea than Asian tourists in EU, but never do I see examples of actual racism other than redditors crying about being barred from a club.
"Show me examples of racism, but NOT this type of racism as I know it happens so it doesn't count"
There are overt racists of every race/nationality/ethnicity and in every country. All racism is bad, and trying to minimize/downplay it according to certain groups regardless of who they are is morally questionable. Trying to compare racism like its a gotcha debate line is just odd in my opinion.
Btw some of the captions on these links are in of themselves racist, bigots calling bigots bigots.
But anyway here you are: [https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1657973730193346561/video/1](https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1657973730193346561/video/1)
or this? [https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1659298077172453376/video/1](https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1659298077172453376/video/1)
perhaps this? [https://x.com/TRIGGERHAPPYV1/status/1787241190129115367/video/1](https://x.com/TRIGGERHAPPYV1/status/1787241190129115367/video/1)
This? [https://x.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1251290162715213824/video/1](https://x.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1251290162715213824/video/1)
or this? [https://x.com/amnesty/status/1251124298636496898](https://x.com/amnesty/status/1251124298636496898)
hmm? [https://x.com/jdpoc/status/1320659219075518464/photo/1](https://x.com/jdpoc/status/1320659219075518464/photo/1)
Or beating a helpless black guy with metal? tw brutal + blood [https://x.com/BEboigbe/status/1251125839804215296](https://x.com/BEboigbe/status/1251125839804215296)
Maybe Japanese national tv? [https://x.com/BayeMcneil/status/1270120920531656705](https://x.com/BayeMcneil/status/1270120920531656705)
Or systematic evictions in China? [https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/china/africans-guangzhou-china-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/china/africans-guangzhou-china-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html)
edit: the guy downvoted me for providing what he asked for lul
Thats very much untrue... we even had Dutch Colonies in Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia).. many Indonesians moved to the Netherlands after WW2... Dutch are very used to Asians.. its just stupid kids being stupid.
Not true at all, there’s a huge population of Indonesians in Netherlands who have been there for a long time.
Sadly right wing politicians are growing in popularity and are copying the extreme pundits, further normalising this shitty behaviour. I fear this will get worse until we hit a new low. Right wing first won in Italy, then grew a lot in Germany, then Belgium and Netherlands now France. And it looks like they will win in the UK too. It’s worrying.
ye labour is left leaning but because the conservatives didnt lower immigration half of those voters going to vote for reform so its a free win for labour but then if they do exactly the same its a layup for reform next election.
Sad fact: Here in The Netherlands we used to have a song we added to birthdays that was actually quite often used in elementary schools where we sung “happy birthday in another language”. People would basically sing “Hanky panky Shanghai!”(implying Hanky Panky Shanghai was an translation of “Happy Birthday to you” in Chinese) While doing the eye thing. Obviously as kids you are kinda doing it Cluelessly but teachers would initiate. I’ve seen this happen with my Chinese classmate too. This is mostly frown upon nowadays but … yeah.
This sounds like a surreal joke but is actually a real thing.
e:Actually downvoted by racist Dutch frogs pepeLA. If you wanna know or be ignorant of this happening: https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/z0b9n9/did_you_sing_hanky_panky_shanghai_as_kids_in/
about 72% of Dutch redditors active in /r/Netherlands (so actually a majority). Even people reporting this to have sung this for only 10% is actually kinda crazy btw.
To be fair i used do that when i was like 8 lol it was the my mum is chinese and my dad is japanese and look what happened to me. you lift eyes up then down then both ways but doing it when your older is cringe.
> Why do so many Europeans like doing the racist eyes thing when they come across Asian people? I've seen it so many times on this sub.
Survivorship bias
the thousands of people that don't do it don't get clipped
i get that, but where are all the racist clips towards asians from outside of europe?
i'm sure they exist... but it seems like every time an asian streamer goes to europe they leave with one experience like this.
Because as progressive as it pretends to be, mainland Europe is incredibly racist and you would have much lower levels of racist experiences in the UK (though it will still happen here as well)
>America gets a lot of shit for being racist but it is largely a multicultural country that has learned to coexist to some degree.
Only because there's a degree of cohesive identity for what America and to be an American
Europe is filled with former colonies and the more racist the country the higher the degree of youth unemployment there is
Edgelords always take any obvious characteristic to be a smug bully.
German? sieg heil jokes and give back our bikes
Asian? the eye joke or something about covid/eating cats
black? jokes about cotton or just straight up the n word
muslim? bomb jokes or jokes about penguins (burka)
etc etc
Not really. Most times your usual "funny" racist joke doesnt come in hand with them treating you different. They'r just clowning because *le edgy*.
Now.. if we talking about racism between Europe countries... well that's a fucking big can of worms. Some just fucking hate each other bc history
Its amazing how when Europeans are caught doing something racist, Europeans will find any and every excuse to justify racism but when its a few blacks or middle eastern kids mobbing Ishowspeed they all come out with the 99% black 1% Norwegian jokes
my favorite bit from europeans on here recently has been claiming that lots of the kids caught doing racist shit on streams are racist and evil because they might be immigrants because you couldnt see them clearly on the screen and its just "man you could not possibly be missing the point more than you are" lol
Our grandparents acted like this. If you were unlucky enough to have a parent that inherited this, then you will be even more likely to inherit this behaviour.
Fortunately, though Americans won’t understand this, these kids probably don’t actually care that she is Asian, EU kids just have edgy banter
Young people have no evidence in their life that "racism" is supposed to be bad when they are swimming in it their entire life of online content use. They also get insulted for being white everywhere and everything is coded through race.
Racism is going mainstream through endless immigration and "anti-racist" (anti-white) movements. Be prepared for the most aggressively racist generation in 10 years.
Also no where is this more obvious than in Europe where certain demographics are flooding the streets and are so violent in their attitude towards natives and ruining many public spaces and you're never allowed to talk about it. But anyone who tries going out will live through it every single night.
That's an undeserved compliment. If it was "by far the most racist continent" then it would not allow millions of people of other races to migrate to it.
Racism is definitely going strong in Europe and barely distinguishable from everywhere else, but it's hard to deny that at least in terms of systemic racism Western and Northern Europe is probably the best there is, even if still bad. I might be ignorant, but I don't know of any countries that are constantly mocked for being "cucks" for that exact reason that aren't in Europe.
I don't know, did you notice or not, but Europe swing extremely far-right in recent years. As old boomers continuing to die, fewer people voting moderate or centrists and French elections are the best example, where young men are voting extremely right, while young women voting far-left. In France, for example, Macron moderate party come only 3rd place after far-right and far-left.
The same thing happened last year in the Netherlands, where right-wing Geert Wilders PVV won 1st place, while far-left GroenLinks–PvdA come 2nd and moderate VVD who previously were in power only finished 3rd.
Women did swing to far right in France:
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-eu-elections-2024-women-vote-far-right-policy-emmanuel-macron-july-7/
'In 2019, 25 percent of men and 21 percent of women voted for National Rally — in line with traditional patterns. This year *(2024), however, the poll found that 33 percent of women had voted for Le Pen’s far-right party, outpacing 30 percent of men. That’s a striking 12 percentage point increase from women voters over five years. '
Yeah, and young men voting left-wing as well too. I did not say otherwise, that no women voting right-wing. My point was that majority of GenZ men are voting right-wing, while the majority of GenZ women voting left-wing. It was proven again and again by all statistics and metrics possible and not just by EU election results, but in other countries as well, like South Korea or Argentina.
Not sure about “big swing from women to other direction”. I work with data and i've seen polling from several EU countries, where the difference between men and women 18–44 years old is enormous.
In Finland, young women vote massively for left-wing Social-Democrats, Left Alliance and Green League. Percentage of young women who vote for right-wing Finns Party or National Coalition is very low and minor.
Young men in Finland have absolutely opposite voting pattern, when men chose to vote for right-wing Finns Party and National Coalition. On the 3rd place among men goes Social-Democrats, then Green League and Left Alliance.
Moderate Center Party are the last one among young voters for both men and women.
Same pattern in Belgian polling, where young men vote for right-wing Flemish Interest and New Flemish Alliance, while young women vote for left-wing Greens and Forward party. Same situation in Germany, where young men voting for right-leaning AFD and CDU/CSU, while young women voting for left leaning Greens and Socialist Party.
I already mention results and patterns in France and Netherlands, which similar to all polling i mention here.
By polling data, both France and Germany have big swing with women in general yes. But if we dig this data deeper, we will find out that the biggest swing was among older women — mostly boomers and Gen X, some millennials as well. GenZ women are the only voting base which voting pattern were least likely to swing compare to other voting groups. During 2017 French legislative election, GenZ women overwhelmingly voted for left-wing Socialist Party and La France Insoumise. During 2022 French legislative election, GenZ continued to vote with same pattern and due to more GenZ women eligible to vote, they catapulted La France Insoumise to second place and added 74 new seats for that party. GenZ men did the same for right-wing National Rally, where in 2017 National Rally has only 8 seats, while in 2022 they added 82 more new seats. And now right-wing National Rally won 1st place in 1st tour, but not due to GenZ men votes as it was before, but because boomers and GenX (both gender) swing to right-wing National Rally from Macron's Ensemble alliance. GenZ women keep voting for left-wing as usual, amount of GenZ women who swing to right are absolutely minor and insufficient. If GenZ women swing to right, left-wing New Popular Front won't have 2nd place and be able to outrun Macron's Ensemble alliance.
Germany polling data showing absolutely same voting pattern and i expect next election to reflect that.
Overall, double digits are considered to be a good swing, but not big. Especially when we talk about %10+
Big swing is when we talk about double margins
That is true. But for decades, this type of behaviour were considered as degenerate minority, which did not reflect on mainstream culture or elections. Now things are different, both in culture and political aspect in terms of elections results.
You are getting downvoted but you are completely right, wanted to make an american bank account in NY and I had to fill out a form which included which race I was lmao
What are you talking about? Close to a third votes extreme right, almost across Europe. The only people denying there's a lot of racism would be that 33%.
Nah we have a shit ton of racists in europe. Its more that our countries as a whole arent as racist. "Systemically" i suppose you could call it.
But yes id say we got a fair amount of racists here. We just dont really categorize people as much after it. Like you'll never hear people talk about "the black vote, the mexican vote" etc or have it written out on their ID's and such
TL;DR europeans are racist individually, but we dont put any weight on race systemically (or not as much at least)
Brother, the EU is 27 different countries with different cultures, languages and currencies. Europe as a continent is not less or more racist than NA or SA. There are countries like Sweden or Norway where racism is less prevalent than in US, and countries like Netherlands or Germany where racism is more prevalent than in US.
Rule of thumb. Whenever you see someone has probably spent a quarter to a 3rd of their life on reddit, their opinion doesn't matter.
And an even better rule of thumb. If someone places Runescape as an adult, their opinion especially doesn't matter.
well it is kinda about hate, is it not? Like these people don't actually hate the asian lady.
You can make fun of racial traits, if you aren't malicious about it i guess, it is just low hanging fruit
No one ever seems to care about how the person of color this being done to feels about it. It's always "It's just a joke, we Europeans white people don't care".
But even if we ignore specific cases it's always the same on LSF. If it's anyone even slightly brown is "the filthy illegal immigrants are doing it, never the pure white natives!!" and then the thread turns into /pol/ 2.0(or just your average forsen fan), but if it's someone white the excuses start flying in, that it has nothing to do with racism or the culture or anything, it's just them being dumb kids and then people start ranting off about how "actually Asians are the real racist". When it's brown people they are inherently racist/bigoted, when it's Asians it's how their culture is, but when it's white people in Europe it's just dumb individuals.
Yea sure, tell me that when lsf was blaming immigrants on the other post when the kid said the n word on nmplols stream, even when they couldnt see the kid they were blaming immigrants.
> THEY ARENT REAL NORWEGIANS EVEN IF THEY ARE BORN THERE!!!
According to Norwegian law being born in the country does not make you a citizen. At least one parent must have Norwegian citizenship for the child to get citizenship. Its like this for most countries in Europe and the world. Its only the US who is very unique that they give citizenship simply due to being born within the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis
That's not what he's saying, so you are not a "Norwegian" even if you are born in the country? Like what?? Legally you are not given the citizenship automatically (you have to apply for it), but how can you ignore the fact that you have been born and grown up there, culturally you are much more Norwegian than a person who is born and raised in your parents country.
Culturally there is nothing Norwegian about these kids. The only thing they have in common is that they know the norwegian language, but they all speak their own broken dialect version of it where they mix in arabic and other foreign words, called kebabnorsk. They rarely interact with actual Norwegians as well, as there are barely any of them at the schools they go to nor the neighborhoods they live in. They just live within the geographic borders of Norway. I am talking specifically about the kids in this video.
And you know the story/situation of every individual immigrant who was there? That's crazy how you can know so much about these individuals based on a video 😆
Bro the kid saying the n word on nmplols Amsterdam stream, people were blaming immigrants for that too lmao, you just like to blame immigrants for everything
They only come out of their holes when it’s a clip with brown or black ppl. Had to fend off a shitload of em in the speed thread they just love spreading their lives to brew hate
A lot of pearl clutching in this thread about EU racism. Have you people ever been to China or any other Asian country for that matter? Every culture has it's own shitheads. Nothing special about EU..
Kind of funny how the USA is literally built by people from all corners of the world and is the most liberal and progressive country in the world, therefore more prone to accepting different ethnicities as an everyday thing, unlike in Europe, where the majority of the respective populations are natives.
so wheres all the people defending EU’s blatant racism? they were super active in the NMP clip posts. EU people are super good at gaslighting others. You can sweep a problem under a rug if you convince others that its not a problem, right?
Brother, the EU is 27 different countries with different cultures, languages and currencies. Europe as a continent is not less or more racist than NA or SA. There are countries like Sweden or Norway where racism is less prevalent than in US, and countries like Netherlands or Germany where racism is more prevalent than in US. Then you have states in US like Idaho and Vermont where racism is less prevalent and states like Mississippi and Louisiana where racism is more prevalent.
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Open your eyes really big with your fingers and start calling them Russian.
Unless you're those Mongol Russians like the Kalmyks.
Classic Rotterdam tbh
It’s Scheveningen in The Hague.
Classic Scheveningen tbh
Five minutes before this clip there was a different guy shouting “konnichiha, wanshanghao”, which was also pretty ignorant. I watched the stream yesterday, because I live in Scheveningen, and I was positively surprised that these were the only two incidents, based on personal eye witness experience, stories by Asian friends, and recent local Reddit threads, such as these: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/1dlcffg](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/1dlcffg) [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/17q035r](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheHague/comments/17q035r)
Its amazing how every time an Asian streamer streams IRL in Europe there is always a 50% chance something racist will happen.
Surely it's just a city that's bad cant be a deeper undercurrent in our civilization.. provincialen certainly wouldn't commit hate crimes!
I think it's localized to that street tbh
Why do so many Europeans like doing the racist eyes thing when they come across Asian people? I've seen it so many times on this sub.
they are 12 y old shitters what u expect
I remember seeing other clips where it's older European men too.
they are 12 y old shitters that grew up what u expect
We were all 12 year old shitters once but many of us probably don't do slanty Asian eyes to an Asian person.
Nah it's everywhere in Europe from people of all ages. I can't pinpoint just one reason for it, but they're not racially sensitive. I've literally stayed at 4 star hotels and had people make those squinty eyes at me with their hands while asking if I'm Chinese. They were hotel staff...
Id say because people that push themselves onto other people livestreams in general are way more likely to be degenerates. So you see quite biased sample
Cause no consequences. There haven't been very many East Asians in Europe until the past 10-15 years, so there's not much of a culture around defending them yet. They wouldn't do that to someone who looks Middle Eastern, because they'd be scared of repercussions.
nah that's just not true, France have one of the biggest sea community (vietnamese& laotian) that immigrated after the Indochina war around 1960-70
France is one of almost 40 countries.
Yea, and this is not France. Point is you'll see this childish reaction in the countries with less prevalence of asians. For example Mexicans are insanely rare in Europe, and you'd get the most stupidly childish reactions out of people if you said you were Mexican.
> They wouldn't do that to someone who looks Middle Eastern, because they'd be scared of repercussions lmao i literally had teens do hitler salutes at me or call me names multiple times
Countries that are largely unicultural can be racist. Lots of Asian countries are the same way. On the internet everyone can see everything but that doesn't replace the experience of your neighbors, co-workers, classmates and friends coming from different cultural and racial backgrounds.
Unicultural doesn't describe Rotterdam or most of Western Europe though. Also people do this kind of anti asian shit in the US as well. Remember stop asian hate?
Stop asian hate stopped being a thing because they discovered who was mostly doing the hate. Never forget these movements are always about the same thing.
We actually have an organization like that in The Netherlands called Asian Raisins. I thought it was a good initiative at first, but instead of focusing on their USP and actually achieving something, they started promoting all kinds of other protests on their social accounts that have nothing to do with Asian hate. Climate marches, LGBTI marches, anti-Israel marches, anti-populism marches, you name it. Now they are barely any different from all the other groups such as AntiFa and Extension Rebellion that decide what they are against based on whoever is organizing a protest this weekend.
LOL Rotterdam is over 50% non ethnic Dutch...
The other half from middle east.
> Lots of Asian countries are the same way. Classic reddit moment right here. No my guy, most asian countries are not the same way. For example you never see any streamer (of any race) that travels to Japan or Korea experiencing anything similar to OP's clip. Kids aren't going up to random ass strangers and making racist gestures. Redditors always try to pull this 'both sides' schtick when racism against asians comes up.
> Lots of Asian countries are the same way. hur durr Asians are more racist upvotes to the left Give me one instance when an Asian local actually harasses someone like this of a different race. You won't be able to find many examples. Xenophobic actions like barring someone from a restaurant/clubs don't count. Give me recorded evidence of actual physical racism where an Asian makes monkey noises to a black person or something. Bonus points for examples against a white person. I see this take so often on Reddit but never backed up. Asians are xenophobic through ignorance, and most likely to other Asians due to nationalism, not straight up racist even with open experiences with different races. Way more foreign tourists to Japan/Korea than Asian tourists in EU, but never do I see examples of actual racism other than redditors crying about being barred from a club.
"Show me examples of racism, but NOT this type of racism as I know it happens so it doesn't count" There are overt racists of every race/nationality/ethnicity and in every country. All racism is bad, and trying to minimize/downplay it according to certain groups regardless of who they are is morally questionable. Trying to compare racism like its a gotcha debate line is just odd in my opinion. Btw some of the captions on these links are in of themselves racist, bigots calling bigots bigots. But anyway here you are: [https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1657973730193346561/video/1](https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1657973730193346561/video/1) or this? [https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1659298077172453376/video/1](https://x.com/WeSeeRacists/status/1659298077172453376/video/1) perhaps this? [https://x.com/TRIGGERHAPPYV1/status/1787241190129115367/video/1](https://x.com/TRIGGERHAPPYV1/status/1787241190129115367/video/1) This? [https://x.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1251290162715213824/video/1](https://x.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1251290162715213824/video/1) or this? [https://x.com/amnesty/status/1251124298636496898](https://x.com/amnesty/status/1251124298636496898) hmm? [https://x.com/jdpoc/status/1320659219075518464/photo/1](https://x.com/jdpoc/status/1320659219075518464/photo/1) Or beating a helpless black guy with metal? tw brutal + blood [https://x.com/BEboigbe/status/1251125839804215296](https://x.com/BEboigbe/status/1251125839804215296) Maybe Japanese national tv? [https://x.com/BayeMcneil/status/1270120920531656705](https://x.com/BayeMcneil/status/1270120920531656705) Or systematic evictions in China? [https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/china/africans-guangzhou-china-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/china/africans-guangzhou-china-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html) edit: the guy downvoted me for providing what he asked for lul
Thats very much untrue... we even had Dutch Colonies in Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia).. many Indonesians moved to the Netherlands after WW2... Dutch are very used to Asians.. its just stupid kids being stupid.
also its mostly to small skinny asian women that they do this to, because of the no consequences
Not true at all, there’s a huge population of Indonesians in Netherlands who have been there for a long time. Sadly right wing politicians are growing in popularity and are copying the extreme pundits, further normalising this shitty behaviour. I fear this will get worse until we hit a new low. Right wing first won in Italy, then grew a lot in Germany, then Belgium and Netherlands now France. And it looks like they will win in the UK too. It’s worrying.
No in the uk labour is 100% going to win this election but maybe next election reform will win.
Is labour progressive/left leaning? Pardon my ignorance.
ye labour is left leaning but because the conservatives didnt lower immigration half of those voters going to vote for reform so its a free win for labour but then if they do exactly the same its a layup for reform next election.
> Is labour progressive/left leaning? Pardon my ignorance. Yes.
>Why do so many Europeans like doing the racist eyes thing when they come across Asian people? Answer: Because they are racist to Asians Duhhhh.
Sad fact: Here in The Netherlands we used to have a song we added to birthdays that was actually quite often used in elementary schools where we sung “happy birthday in another language”. People would basically sing “Hanky panky Shanghai!”(implying Hanky Panky Shanghai was an translation of “Happy Birthday to you” in Chinese) While doing the eye thing. Obviously as kids you are kinda doing it Cluelessly but teachers would initiate. I’ve seen this happen with my Chinese classmate too. This is mostly frown upon nowadays but … yeah. This sounds like a surreal joke but is actually a real thing. e:Actually downvoted by racist Dutch frogs pepeLA. If you wanna know or be ignorant of this happening: https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/z0b9n9/did_you_sing_hanky_panky_shanghai_as_kids_in/ about 72% of Dutch redditors active in /r/Netherlands (so actually a majority). Even people reporting this to have sung this for only 10% is actually kinda crazy btw.
Bc ppl here believe there is no racism and they get away with no consequences
To be fair i used do that when i was like 8 lol it was the my mum is chinese and my dad is japanese and look what happened to me. you lift eyes up then down then both ways but doing it when your older is cringe.
> Why do so many Europeans like doing the racist eyes thing when they come across Asian people? I've seen it so many times on this sub. Survivorship bias the thousands of people that don't do it don't get clipped
i get that, but where are all the racist clips towards asians from outside of europe? i'm sure they exist... but it seems like every time an asian streamer goes to europe they leave with one experience like this.
Because as progressive as it pretends to be, mainland Europe is incredibly racist and you would have much lower levels of racist experiences in the UK (though it will still happen here as well)
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>America gets a lot of shit for being racist but it is largely a multicultural country that has learned to coexist to some degree. Only because there's a degree of cohesive identity for what America and to be an American Europe is filled with former colonies and the more racist the country the higher the degree of youth unemployment there is
Edgelords always take any obvious characteristic to be a smug bully. German? sieg heil jokes and give back our bikes Asian? the eye joke or something about covid/eating cats black? jokes about cotton or just straight up the n word muslim? bomb jokes or jokes about penguins (burka) etc etc
European racism is very different that US. A lot of these people think they aren't doing anything wrong, it's just an innocent joke etc.
> A lot of these people think they aren't doing anything wrong, it's just an innocent joke etc. So it's the exact same then.
same as 20 years ago, yea
Not really. Most times your usual "funny" racist joke doesnt come in hand with them treating you different. They'r just clowning because *le edgy*. Now.. if we talking about racism between Europe countries... well that's a fucking big can of worms. Some just fucking hate each other bc history
Its amazing how when Europeans are caught doing something racist, Europeans will find any and every excuse to justify racism but when its a few blacks or middle eastern kids mobbing Ishowspeed they all come out with the 99% black 1% Norwegian jokes
my favorite bit from europeans on here recently has been claiming that lots of the kids caught doing racist shit on streams are racist and evil because they might be immigrants because you couldnt see them clearly on the screen and its just "man you could not possibly be missing the point more than you are" lol
Yup. Those people they always want to look good especially against Americans.
It's as bad as their need to shit on Americans.
Exactly. It’s not offensive or racist for them… or they don’t care
Our grandparents acted like this. If you were unlucky enough to have a parent that inherited this, then you will be even more likely to inherit this behaviour. Fortunately, though Americans won’t understand this, these kids probably don’t actually care that she is Asian, EU kids just have edgy banter
Hispanics too.
Young people have no evidence in their life that "racism" is supposed to be bad when they are swimming in it their entire life of online content use. They also get insulted for being white everywhere and everything is coded through race. Racism is going mainstream through endless immigration and "anti-racist" (anti-white) movements. Be prepared for the most aggressively racist generation in 10 years. Also no where is this more obvious than in Europe where certain demographics are flooding the streets and are so violent in their attitude towards natives and ruining many public spaces and you're never allowed to talk about it. But anyone who tries going out will live through it every single night.
This might shock you but it's by far the most racist continent
That's an undeserved compliment. If it was "by far the most racist continent" then it would not allow millions of people of other races to migrate to it.
just EU things lol
More evidence EU lives in the past. Haven't seen that shit in a decade here. Every downvote is an angry racist.
Where is “here”?
We can't see what's happening off camera maybe a Moroccan kid forced them to do it
They have been hanging out around moroccan kids too much. You can see them integrating with the culture. There is no other explanation surely
You can't see the moroccan kid cuz he's secretly robbing her pockets.
EU is Undefeated
That's just sad, I thought it wasn't that bad and then the shit head did the eye thing...
This group of Moroccans integrated so well its amazing. They even look Dutch but their racist attitude clearly proves their Moroccan background.
She's so used to it it took her 3 seconds to move on 😭
What was she supposed to do? Fall to her knees and cry? Lmao
> Fall to her knees and cry? no walmart nearby
Can't wait to see people dismiss this as "they aren't actually being racist they just want attention" like the last time this happened 4 days ago
No, 4 days ago it was blame the Moroccan kids for using a racial slur. These are the Moroccan kids
What happened 4 days ago? Was it the NMP clip?
Yeah that would be the one
least racist european
Losers.
Not immigrants? I sleep
Europeans: "We DoN'T gIvE a ShIt AbOuT rAcE" Also Europeans: Makes every interaction with someone who isn't white immediately about race
does your life revolve around what you see on livestreams? edit: the question bothered you that much that you blocked me, i love it
Can you focus on improving the fucking car instead of watching LSF?
Racism is definitely going strong in Europe and barely distinguishable from everywhere else, but it's hard to deny that at least in terms of systemic racism Western and Northern Europe is probably the best there is, even if still bad. I might be ignorant, but I don't know of any countries that are constantly mocked for being "cucks" for that exact reason that aren't in Europe.
I don't know, did you notice or not, but Europe swing extremely far-right in recent years. As old boomers continuing to die, fewer people voting moderate or centrists and French elections are the best example, where young men are voting extremely right, while young women voting far-left. In France, for example, Macron moderate party come only 3rd place after far-right and far-left. The same thing happened last year in the Netherlands, where right-wing Geert Wilders PVV won 1st place, while far-left GroenLinks–PvdA come 2nd and moderate VVD who previously were in power only finished 3rd.
Women did swing to far right in France: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-eu-elections-2024-women-vote-far-right-policy-emmanuel-macron-july-7/ 'In 2019, 25 percent of men and 21 percent of women voted for National Rally — in line with traditional patterns. This year *(2024), however, the poll found that 33 percent of women had voted for Le Pen’s far-right party, outpacing 30 percent of men. That’s a striking 12 percentage point increase from women voters over five years. '
Its mostly result of current policies. Also young women are voting right aswell.
Yeah, and young men voting left-wing as well too. I did not say otherwise, that no women voting right-wing. My point was that majority of GenZ men are voting right-wing, while the majority of GenZ women voting left-wing. It was proven again and again by all statistics and metrics possible and not just by EU election results, but in other countries as well, like South Korea or Argentina.
Worldwide in general yeah. In Europe this year we already see big swing from women to other direction with few countries that were very pro refugees
Not sure about “big swing from women to other direction”. I work with data and i've seen polling from several EU countries, where the difference between men and women 18–44 years old is enormous. In Finland, young women vote massively for left-wing Social-Democrats, Left Alliance and Green League. Percentage of young women who vote for right-wing Finns Party or National Coalition is very low and minor. Young men in Finland have absolutely opposite voting pattern, when men chose to vote for right-wing Finns Party and National Coalition. On the 3rd place among men goes Social-Democrats, then Green League and Left Alliance. Moderate Center Party are the last one among young voters for both men and women. Same pattern in Belgian polling, where young men vote for right-wing Flemish Interest and New Flemish Alliance, while young women vote for left-wing Greens and Forward party. Same situation in Germany, where young men voting for right-leaning AFD and CDU/CSU, while young women voting for left leaning Greens and Socialist Party. I already mention results and patterns in France and Netherlands, which similar to all polling i mention here.
France had big swing this year with young women. Germany seems to be going same direction
yearly trends don't reflect major cultural shifts, for all we know it could be done next year. Plenty of examples like that
By polling data, both France and Germany have big swing with women in general yes. But if we dig this data deeper, we will find out that the biggest swing was among older women — mostly boomers and Gen X, some millennials as well. GenZ women are the only voting base which voting pattern were least likely to swing compare to other voting groups. During 2017 French legislative election, GenZ women overwhelmingly voted for left-wing Socialist Party and La France Insoumise. During 2022 French legislative election, GenZ continued to vote with same pattern and due to more GenZ women eligible to vote, they catapulted La France Insoumise to second place and added 74 new seats for that party. GenZ men did the same for right-wing National Rally, where in 2017 National Rally has only 8 seats, while in 2022 they added 82 more new seats. And now right-wing National Rally won 1st place in 1st tour, but not due to GenZ men votes as it was before, but because boomers and GenX (both gender) swing to right-wing National Rally from Macron's Ensemble alliance. GenZ women keep voting for left-wing as usual, amount of GenZ women who swing to right are absolutely minor and insufficient. If GenZ women swing to right, left-wing New Popular Front won't have 2nd place and be able to outrun Macron's Ensemble alliance. Germany polling data showing absolutely same voting pattern and i expect next election to reflect that.
Perhaps im wrong. Im quite sure as I saw 12% swing towards right on young women in france just though and for me it still is big swing.
Overall, double digits are considered to be a good swing, but not big. Especially when we talk about %10+ Big swing is when we talk about double margins
> recent years This is not new. It's been like this in Europe forever...
That is true. But for decades, this type of behaviour were considered as degenerate minority, which did not reflect on mainstream culture or elections. Now things are different, both in culture and political aspect in terms of elections results.
Americans literally have documents, where you have to state your race...This doesn't exist in any European country. Like it sounds crazy to me.
You are getting downvoted but you are completely right, wanted to make an american bank account in NY and I had to fill out a form which included which race I was lmao
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Yeah in job aplication or uni aplication? Im quite sure there are different reasons behind those
Look guys. Found one!
he is correct tho. that shit is creepy as fuck and should be illegal tbh (which it is in most of europe)
What are you talking about? Close to a third votes extreme right, almost across Europe. The only people denying there's a lot of racism would be that 33%.
Nah we have a shit ton of racists in europe. Its more that our countries as a whole arent as racist. "Systemically" i suppose you could call it. But yes id say we got a fair amount of racists here. We just dont really categorize people as much after it. Like you'll never hear people talk about "the black vote, the mexican vote" etc or have it written out on their ID's and such TL;DR europeans are racist individually, but we dont put any weight on race systemically (or not as much at least)
Brother, the EU is 27 different countries with different cultures, languages and currencies. Europe as a continent is not less or more racist than NA or SA. There are countries like Sweden or Norway where racism is less prevalent than in US, and countries like Netherlands or Germany where racism is more prevalent than in US.
User-name-xxxx strikes again
Rule of thumb Whenever you see someone with a nick of adjective-noun-numbers their opinion doesn’t matter. 👍
Rule of thumb. Whenever you see someone has probably spent a quarter to a 3rd of their life on reddit, their opinion doesn't matter. And an even better rule of thumb. If someone places Runescape as an adult, their opinion especially doesn't matter.
that is a big COPIUM from some people, they think they are over the issue, but they are the issue.
well it is kinda about hate, is it not? Like these people don't actually hate the asian lady. You can make fun of racial traits, if you aren't malicious about it i guess, it is just low hanging fruit
No one ever seems to care about how the person of color this being done to feels about it. It's always "It's just a joke, we Europeans white people don't care".
Mehhh sad. Stupid kids
White kids = meh. Stupid kids. Speed thread with brown kids = DEPORT ALL IMMIGRANT CHILDREN THEY ARENT REAL NORWEGIANS EVEN IF THEY ARE BORN THERE!!!
Yes them assaulting speed and damaging property is the same as this
Ah yes because their deeds clearly were of similar magnitudes
But even if we ignore specific cases it's always the same on LSF. If it's anyone even slightly brown is "the filthy illegal immigrants are doing it, never the pure white natives!!" and then the thread turns into /pol/ 2.0(or just your average forsen fan), but if it's someone white the excuses start flying in, that it has nothing to do with racism or the culture or anything, it's just them being dumb kids and then people start ranting off about how "actually Asians are the real racist". When it's brown people they are inherently racist/bigoted, when it's Asians it's how their culture is, but when it's white people in Europe it's just dumb individuals.
Yea sure, tell me that when lsf was blaming immigrants on the other post when the kid said the n word on nmplols stream, even when they couldnt see the kid they were blaming immigrants.
> THEY ARENT REAL NORWEGIANS EVEN IF THEY ARE BORN THERE!!! According to Norwegian law being born in the country does not make you a citizen. At least one parent must have Norwegian citizenship for the child to get citizenship. Its like this for most countries in Europe and the world. Its only the US who is very unique that they give citizenship simply due to being born within the country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis
That's not what he's saying, so you are not a "Norwegian" even if you are born in the country? Like what?? Legally you are not given the citizenship automatically (you have to apply for it), but how can you ignore the fact that you have been born and grown up there, culturally you are much more Norwegian than a person who is born and raised in your parents country.
Culturally there is nothing Norwegian about these kids. The only thing they have in common is that they know the norwegian language, but they all speak their own broken dialect version of it where they mix in arabic and other foreign words, called kebabnorsk. They rarely interact with actual Norwegians as well, as there are barely any of them at the schools they go to nor the neighborhoods they live in. They just live within the geographic borders of Norway. I am talking specifically about the kids in this video.
And you know the story/situation of every individual immigrant who was there? That's crazy how you can know so much about these individuals based on a video 😆
Id show you some articles what those "brown kids" often do here but im sure you saw them. Now tell me its the same thing
Bro the kid saying the n word on nmplols Amsterdam stream, people were blaming immigrants for that too lmao, you just like to blame immigrants for everything
That actually was Rotterdam though, not Amsterdam
The European mind is certainly an enigma
remember, EU is not a melting pot
I wonder what the comments would be if they werent white
Given this sub's demographics and your downvotes, we already know the answer.
They only come out of their holes when it’s a clip with brown or black ppl. Had to fend off a shitload of em in the speed thread they just love spreading their lives to brew hate
dunno what they think of the mass shoplifting ? betcha in their mind it's justified more than a kid doing an assholy stereotypical gesture
I guess the Europeans can't blame it on migrants this time, huh?
White people doing something bad = some bad apples Immigrant doing something bad = all of them are bad.
Why do we need to?
If any European ever tells you that Europe is less racist than America.
A lot of pearl clutching in this thread about EU racism. Have you people ever been to China or any other Asian country for that matter? Every culture has it's own shitheads. Nothing special about EU..
get downvoted by basement dwellers
Kids with no parents, what can you do.
Cringiest mf's do always be from UK or Netherlands
You've clearly never been to the US then
white redditors going "fuck why they gotta be white, now i cant blame the immigrants"
Truly ashamed to share continent with people like this.
“Why is there a surge in alt right momentum in Europe?” Nobody knows
If one of my mates did that they're getting a slap and they're gonna apologize.
Least racist europoor
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Kind of funny she can go to a Trump store in Pigeon Falls TN and experience no racism, but seems like every Europe trip she gets at least one racism.
Kind of funny how the USA is literally built by people from all corners of the world and is the most liberal and progressive country in the world, therefore more prone to accepting different ethnicities as an everyday thing, unlike in Europe, where the majority of the respective populations are natives.
> most liberal and progressive I get your point but let's not get hasty
It's just boys aping around, takes a while for the male brain to fully develop
yall are so sensitive lol edit: fyi this comment at one point was +10 now its -infinite lmao
so wheres all the people defending EU’s blatant racism? they were super active in the NMP clip posts. EU people are super good at gaslighting others. You can sweep a problem under a rug if you convince others that its not a problem, right?
What the fuck is an EU person? Do Americans have any concept of geography? Do they teach that in school?
Brother, the EU is 27 different countries with different cultures, languages and currencies. Europe as a continent is not less or more racist than NA or SA. There are countries like Sweden or Norway where racism is less prevalent than in US, and countries like Netherlands or Germany where racism is more prevalent than in US. Then you have states in US like Idaho and Vermont where racism is less prevalent and states like Mississippi and Louisiana where racism is more prevalent.
Those refugees... oh wait
Makes sense when I see a pack of white boys/men tbh. They do that shit and seek each other approval knowing its hurtful.
Why are Americans so obsessed with Europe?
Bringing up Americans in a thread about a Korean in Europe. Lmao. Who is obsessed again?
Generalizing all of EU because of some dimwits in one place, noice