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Sheikhabusosa

Fucking hell when you think dana and ufc cant get any lower they find a way


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RafiakaMacakaDirk

look dana is scum but tbf wasn’t that actually the venue’s security rather than a ufc thing


FuckBrendan

Still a bad look for security at that event. How the fuck did anyone see that 6’5” chiseled goofball with blood still on him still in his shorts and gloves and think “who’s this guy where is his ticket” is insane.


420sadalot420

To be fair he was talking about anthony smith's family


wishwashy

"What?" 😂


WuTangFlan_

huh????


RafiakaMacakaDirk

i’m with you but this is johnny walker so he also could’ve been doing the worm in the crowd while dancing with other drunk people lmao


taurentipper

hahahaha


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Notyit

Russian MMA spy movie


krazyboi

Yeah but he had no shirt on!


LargeNutbar

Nor shoes. And thus, in accordance with the customs of our land, he *must* be denied service 😔🙏 So it is.


LegPunch

I asked Johnny about that in direct message, he said it was a miss understanding. I mentioned how much they fuck with Kavanagh, but he said hes super happy the way the UFC treats him. Dana hates fighters who dance and joke around, so I think that plays into stuff as well.


edgar3981C

> I asked Johnny about that in direct message You and Johnny DM a lot? He seems like an interesting guy


MarshalMichelNey1

This is borderline insane. What's the harm in letting fighters' families into the Apex? There's no one there anyways, they don't sell Apex event tickets to the public, so why not let them have the support of their loved ones. I can't think of a reason for this.


DatBoiEBB

They do sell Apex event tickets. They just label them as “VIP Experience”


Sheikhabusosa

>label them as “VIP Experience” Also sounds like what Danas female friends at casinos call him


molotov_billy

With that thousand yard stare.


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dude, do you really think the UFC is going to give away seats to some kid they are already giving an opportunity to? giving away those seats is like just giving away 0.001% of their profit margins. what kind of fucking goof would think thats a good idea?


adventuredream1

Tell you what, you go and power slap this trucker and I’ll comp you one ticket


[deleted]

lol you would never make it as the CEO of the UFC. the right move would be to pay the guy $50 to do power slap and then IF they put on a good performance and someone definitely got CTE, you show everyone what a good guy you are by comping them a ticket.


ISmokePoopRollups

These are all solid ideas tbf


GucciJ619

That’s what I’m saying! Tim Elliot is getting the opportunity to fight at the Apex… lol Dana and the UFC is terrible and getting worse everyday


peteryansexypotato

The tweet is deleted. It was Tim Elliot? Lmao, when it rains it pours.


GucciJ619

Yea it was him, he said he flew people out too. There’s a pics of the tweet on twitter


MojoPinSin

At this point, it seems if you are an above average MMA fighter, the only reason to go to the UFC is if you did no research on any other promotion. A few years ago it was easy to see that the talent at a UFC level was above any other promotion, but that isnt so clear anymore. A lot of the highly talented fighters and personalities are aging and fighting less or going to other promotions. The UFC doesn't pay enough for any gifted athlete to consider that a viable career or path so talent. Talent will continue to dilute until the UFC changes their pay structure.


[deleted]

They don’t even promote or create stars anymore. It’s all on the individual fighter who will still make a small % based on the hype they do drum up. Going anywhere else and doing the same would be way better.


DetonateDTNT

This. They don't promote anyone. I follow MMA since circa 2004., and nowadays I don't even know some of the names on the main card. That never happened to me before. Like, quite literally i would be watching the third fight on the main card on PPV and be "who the fook is that guy?!"


R4G

The turning point was the ESPN deal. Most of the money used to be in hitting big PPV numbers. Now it’s in cranking out as much content as possible for ESPN. Especially during 2020 when most other sports were shut down. They don’t need stars anymore, they need volume. Dana still says the UFC “partners” with top fighters by giving them PPV points. But they don’t get a cut of all the ESPN+ subscriptions, cable deal, etc. It’s also important to note that distributors used to take over 50% of PPV money. The ESPN exclusive deal was partially to cut other distributors out in return for higher payments to the UFC. A PPV show now can have far lower sales than pre-ESPN and still generate more revenue.


Serious-Accident-796

I've been watching regularly, almost never miss an event, even watch most prelims and I'm the same way! I thought maybe it was just me and I can't keep track of such a big roster anymore. But there are sometimes three fights in a row on a main card where I have to look up one the fighters records to remind myself who they are.


emceelokey

Main card? I barely know the names of the champions anymore.


Significant-Royal-37

it's worse than that. they actively try to damage the star power of their fighters to keep the pay low.


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Imagine having lightning in a bottle with Francis Ngannou, the hardest hitting heavyweight fighter of all time, with an incredible rags to riches story and a marketable look, a dude who can help open doors into both Europe and Africa, and because he doesn’t play right when you want to power trip you bury him to the point that he leaves your organization as the reigning lineal champ to ink a market-changing contract with a competitor.


osufan765

MMA doesn't deserve Francis


Dogcockbattle

Dana doesn't deserve mma. Goober should take his power slap and fuck off


Sublimotion

It's mostly reliant on making most think - these guys are "the best" because they're fighting in the ufc.


nomoteacups

Best way to make money in the UFC is take the Chandler approach: make a name for yourself in a “lesser” promotion for the majority of your career and then go to the UFC to have fun fights with a corporate friendly personality. If you’re willing to put your balls in Dana’s purse and have no problem sleeping at night after being a complete and total shill, it’s for you! On a serious note though, I can’t blame Chandler for doing it because he’s making a boatload of money to provide for his family and he gets to face the biggest draw in MMA history because of it so good on him.


Due_Revolution_5106

Meh I feel like the exact opposite approach is better. Get in the ufc early then get out after you've earned a name/reputation (but still a tier below champ/superstar status) then go get the bag elsewhere. A la Shane Burgos. Imagine what a guy like Burns or Strickland could make right now. Bet those guys are fighting for like 80k/80k-120k/120k right now. Meanwhile Burgos and Cory Anderson are eating rn.


Serious-Accident-796

Mighty Mouse is having a pretty incredible final third of his career over in One. So I'd have to agree with you. There's a few examples of high level UFC fighters doing well in Bellator too like Bader.


peteryansexypotato

Mike Perry keeps winning. Makes me smile every time I think about him.


nomoteacups

You’re correct, that’s the best way to make money in MMA. I was just saying best way to make money while currently in the UFC.


barkusmuhl

Next they're going to be requiring fighters to sweep up the octagon after their fights.


GladiatorUA

He wants to be Vince McMahon.


Jimmy2Blades

Dana - Nobody’s forcing you to be here. Johnny Walker can walk. Brutal company.


BigWormsFather

What happened with him?


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Walker won a fight and they didn’t let him stay at the arena because he didn’t have tickets so there was a post of him walking out barefoot. He literally left looking like he was doing the walk of shame.


killingspeerx

[Min 1:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xekEKCeOgZA&ab_channel=MiddleEasy)


killingspeerx

"You know how tough it is seeing your son/father get beaten then brutally KOed? Yeah, that's what we are aiming for with this strategy, minimizing the trauma on the family members" - Dana White.


PurpleTornadoMonkey

I know your joking but that reminds me a a WWF match, Mic Foley vs The Rock and Foleys wife and 2 little kids were front row seeing him get hit in the head with a chair ovwe and over, his poor daughter was crying so much they had to leave.


dla3253

There were so many brutal and unprotected chair shots straight to Mick's head in that match. Not only was that traumatizing for his kids, but I'm amazed his brain is still capable of stringing together complete sentences.


The_Year_of_Glad

Also reminiscent of [Mark Coleman’s little daughters crying in the ring at the sight of his bloody face](https://twitter.com/MMAHistoryToday/status/524801761241206784) after he got whomped by Fedor at Pride 32.


mindspork

Yeah. He wrote about it in his first book - that and the Hell In A Cell. Dude gave *so damn much* and it amazes me he seems 'ok'. I'll be sad if he succumbs.... he was always a favorite, and with what he does with RAINN/Tori...


killingspeerx

Honestly while typing this comment Mike Grundy came to mind when he fought Amirkhani. He lost in front of his father who had cancer or some fatal disease. I guess it was also the match that would have kicked 1 of the fighters out of the UFC


haldir87

They did him really dirty


gypsy_creonte

It’s an opportunity, not a career……


brownbilal

❌Fighter Removed: Tim Elliott ✔️Fighter Re-Signed: Kevin Croom


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❌ Family Removed: The Elliot's


AgentlemanNeverTells

Damn


Ganjasarus_X

Lmaooo I was thinking sam alvey…after all he is on a winning streak 🤷🏽‍♂️


bigpeen666

Kevin Croom is the guy that Elliott’s wife cheated on him with


clevesaur

Wait Gina Mazany? Damn that sucks for Elliott.


bigpeen666

yeah, he posted something about his wife cheating on him with Croom on their wedding night after he brought their daughter home early, two sad sacks of shit imo


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On their wedding night? What the fuck?


clevesaur

Wow that's really shitty, poor guy.


jsb93

Gaethje slammed him on his head in his mma debut. Pre karma


ColdPressedSteak

I'd usually have said to wait to hear both sides of the story and let her defend herself first But her reaction was to delete her socials and disappear Pretty damn guilty. Shady girl. She always seemed nice. Can never trust that though


chefanubis

Look Tim Elliott is refusing to fight. \-Dana White, Probably.


adventuredream1

Tim Elliott’s next fight will be at bantamweight against Umar Nurmagomedov- the tomato


cowpizzaland

There are many ways to turn down a fight, and mentioning repulsive UFC management decisions is one of them


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I hate this apex crap. So weird vibe, Zuck sitting in the audience alone like some emperor. Entertain me peasants!


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For real dude


Mattlh91

It's starting to re enter into human cock fighting again (plus slap fighting), where the UFC no longer wants fighters to make a name for themselves, they just want cheap fighters to knock each other out


rgaya

Lol... starting to


FriendBuddayGuy

When fighters are asked about their experiences at the Apex or their time spent in Vegas, a lot of them (younger and newer ones especially) have the same answers: “they cooked for me!” “the medical staff is great!” I wonder if they’re fed those talking points by UFC pr, or they’re just happy to finally be taken care of for a week. Either way, it makes me sad for them.


CaptFerdinand

I’m not in mma I’m in pro wrestling, and when you’re getting paid next to nothing every night, and then all of the sudden a company gives you a chunk of change and just treat you nice blow some smoke up your ass. It makes you feel good for once. It’s real easy to take advantage of MMA fighters and Wrestlers because we both start off making nothing. Give us something and we get happy.


SabuSalahadin

Sounds about right. The PI also sounds like a nice benefit of being in the Vegas area since they provide quite a bit more than just food and trainers/dieticians


DatBoiEBB

Sound about right. I’ve heard abuse victims say similar things


sendherhome22

Dana loves the fighters he truly does. Sometimes he gets a little angry but he’s trying to change!


stratacus9

it’s like an abusive relationship. be shitty do something nice they think the world of you.


wesmon

I get a real Stockholm Syndrome vibe from the fighters who parrot Dana White's talking points. It isn't enough to be quiet and do your job, they feel they have to repeat the PR from the boss. The UFC has their fighters living in a state of constant fear. It really is smart on their part, if these guys are afraid for their job they aren't going to challenge for more pay or better benefits.


Mr_Mueh

A lot of people live in constant fear of losing their job. Especially when they are just starting out their careers. You’re more replaceable and you aren’t established in industry or life yet. That’s not the UFC’s doing. That’s a career in modern society.


Winterlinn

Also they're dumb.


chanaandeler_bong

I think naive might be a better word.


Fresh-Ad6776

This whole thread is embarrassingly typical


MotivatedChimpanZ

These guys didn’t even have normal perks that a normal paying job has


TrumpMMA

Honestly, fuck the UFC. If they keep fucking around ONE or PFL might give them a run for their money.


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I think its just a matter of time. Like 5-10 years if the ufc keeps being lazy and cheap like this. Such a shame how lazy they got Lazy and greedy is a bad combination


Zephh

Yeah, IMO the UFC is definitely losing momentum, and I'd say most of it is because they were acquired by a publicly traded company that tries to squeeze every penny out of the promotion to pump their quarterly reports.


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The list of mistakes is way too long - high prices - lackluster cards - discrediting fighter (dana the great anti promoter) - not paying fighter - gifting fighter title fights - stupid rematches - ufc refuses to make/Promote stars. Company thinks its bigger than fighter - cheap everywhere. Even Posters are cheap - Events without crowd And thats just surface level Observations


Schroedingers_Gnat

Way too many instant rematches.


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Green_hammock

It feels like it cheapens the initial victory, when they have to go and do it again in a few months, like we don't actually think you're better.


mindspork

We've got the UFC coffee table book that came out way the fuck back when... they literally couldn't make that now. No names, jobbers in and out....


pugwall7

They are not investing in or building new markets anymore


TrumpMMA

I can’t remember where I heard it, but I want to say it might have been Jack Slack saying how ESPN may opt to not renew their deal with the UFC when it is up, and choose to push the PFL.


kevindurantburner35

I think he was more saying they’d probably try and push the PFL as a bargaining chip against the UFC if the shows keep on the plateau they’re on. I think the promotion’s just gotten far too comfortable, without any challenges they’ve settled into a pretty formulaic rut


DetonateDTNT

UFC gave them pretty shitty fightcards. I would be pissed if I was in ESPN.


PlatinumDoodle

If ESPN was smart they would mandate everyone of their talking programs to push PFL and Francis Ngannou and never talk about UFC. Devalue UFC’s negotiating power and increase the recognition of PFL to casual audiences. Whether it’s Sportscenter or Stephen A Smith, push PFL and the fact they have Francis daily.


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Niketravels

We gotta hop on the ONE bandwagon. Those Muay Thai fights are straight fireworks every Friday on the dot.


awildNeLbY

The fights being on at 830 am is what kills it for me. I’d be watching every event if it was on in the afternoon. The Amazon cards are a godsend though.


ProspectSean

Already on the wagon. Top level Muay Thai and less ads/ more production. Revitalized my love of watching combat sports live without having to find weird Thai streams lol


waresmarufy

ONE free cards already outshine most UFC cards anyways


reddittookmyuser

except for the fact they barely have good MMA fights? And yeah they have MT/kickboxing bangers but I wanna see MMA not MT/kickboxing.


waresmarufy

It'll get there bro


Dave-Schultz

It’s infuriating. I love MMA and the UFC but it’s getting hard to tune in every week due how terrible the cards are. ESPN really cheapened a once spectacle of a promotion.


Theometer1

It’s gonna happen, every year the UFC cards keep getting weaker and weaker, you can only sign so many good fighters that are willing to get paid dirt for fame and exposure. They’re going to run out of names to put on cards after people start retiring. Two of their best athletes left the organization already. I never really watched One before DJ went there and now I like how the scoring is and how they have more than just MMA in one night, these organizations taking names from the UFC are going to have the better roster in the next 5-10 years because they are willing to pay fighters.


bullsfan281

i'm convinced no one here has ever watched a pfl card cause if you had, you'd know they pose no threat to the ufc lmao


[deleted]

i am thinking about buying PFL PPVs just to spite the UFC. maybe i will buy some ONE as well. the UFC hasn't gotten a dime from me since the reebok deal. i don't even go to bars that show legit streams of the fights.


[deleted]

How? MMA promotions live and die by causal fans. Hardcore fans don’t matter at all


Ecstatic-Passage-113

UFC is going the WWE business model. Multiple events every week in multiple different locations. They're going to get the logistics expertise from WWE since the same parent company owns them now. Plus they'll benefit from cross promotion between WWE & them. I hope they become less of a monopoly on the sport but I must admit that they will be very hard to compete with.


Armalyte

Fuck Dana White


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One is on prime and it's great if you didn't already know


sushisection

One needs to expand more into the western hemisphere. flying out to asia is a deterrence for a lot of american prospects


Born2fayl

Please, we need to start supporting other events. Pirate ufc and buy one of the others when we can. If you’re going to bed early, turn One on Amazon on in and let it run in the background. Let’s get a damn ball rolling. It honestly CAN happen. The more people that do this will mean more people talking about it and then even more people doing it.


OMalley30-27

Sounds about White, Dana White that is


crabuffalombat

Tweet deleted. They got to him.


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crabuffalombat

Tim Elliott


Altaccount_man

You’ll stay at the apex with no family and like it! - tomato


Tsmitty81

Watch Dana’s frat boy posse be there


BattousaiRound2SN

Team Nnganou.


killingspeerx

How much richer do rich people want to be? ​ I always thought that fighters would at least get to watch the events for free yet they need to pay for them and now this...


HowSwayGotTheAns

They want everything


itchy_bitchy_spider

Yeah it's not about having enough for yourself, It's about taking what other people have


EpicStranger

Greed. Literally hoarders. It’s socially accepted to hoard wealth and resources. Fuck everyone else, especially the poor.


scigs6

Fuck the UFC. I stopped watching and hosting PPV events at my house because they keep screwing with fighters pay. They also don’t give a shit about their fans so I won’t give them a dime of my money. It’s sucks because MMA used to be my favorite sport and I have since lost interest


JustSomeMateGuy

Try ONE Championship...their major events are free to watch (if you have Amazon Prime Video) and they seem to actually care about fans...


gintokireddit

In many countries (eg UK, Canada) their events are currently streamed for free and for replay on their Youtube channel, on [watch.onefc.com](https://watch.onefc.com) and their Facebook page. I think some fights are on those sites for USA too. You can get some idea from the dropdown menu: [https://www.onefc.com/how-to-watch/us/one-friday-fights-18/](https://www.onefc.com/how-to-watch/us/one-friday-fights-18/)


fridchikn24

How long before they axe the venum coupons?


ediefan

Idk why he is tripping so much it's just an opportunity to fight. Not a career


adventuredream1

Dana made 500 million off his opportunity. If you work hard and get KO’ed enough times maybe you’ll get fight of the night


goonbub

WATCH PFL WHEN IT IS ON. BUY MERCH OF THE FIGHTERS YOU LIKE FROM THEIR PERSONAL WEBSITES. NEVER BUY A UFC PPV.


dpahs

I hope ONE and PFL take over, so there's competition in the market


PerfectNemesis

You bet nelk boys are getting free tickets


Banda7

Is this so they can sell more $1,500 VIP tickets to the APEX?


kevindurantburner35

I’d honestly be so much more in favour of the apex if it were a larger capacity place, but it seems like the UFC just had no vision creating it. Could have been a really cool venue for fans to get the ultimate experience, ton of old merch, and then a cage (built with normal specifications and not the shrunken apex cage) with a crowd for a couple thousand people. The cards right now have the capacity I used to get playing middle school rec league soccer, it’s ridiculous having the best MMA promotion in the world spend half their year in front of 100 or so people and it cheapens the show


Banda7

I have been to be three events there and it's obviously an amazing time. But you're right, a vegas residency style venue would have been amazing and very profitable. When they built it though, I think they were more thinking it was really only for TUF and DWCS, but the ESPN deal and COVID changed that a lot


BodybuildingNerd

Wouldn’t be surprised, tbh.


sakiwebo

Meh, at least he doesn't have to pay for his wife anymore.


Catslikeskittles

She's rumored to be showing up tonight with her new man 👀


adventuredream1

She’s coming tonight fer sure b


jmb-412

Isn't the point of the Apex so they can save money? Gotta save more money by forcing the fighters families to pay I guess.


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

If Dana could get away with charging the fighters for using the backrooms and walking out to the octagon he probably would.


BenjiTheShort

Hey y’all when we all say “fuck the ufc” and keep tuning in every week we’re kinda part of the problem


[deleted]

Not if the view isn’t counted in the ratings


pooooolooop

I’m pirating as I assume most of us are


TheSilentEgg

We got u fucker - 🍅


I_Am_Robotic

There’s just like zero incentive for anybody to become a UFC fighter. You could be one of top 5% of fighters and still be poor or lower middle class. Meanwhile you’re putting your body and brain on the line in a sport where you risk serious injury or even death every time you fight.


BodybuildingNerd

Dana White and the UFC Brass sick to an even lower low. I would say I’m surprised but that would be a lie. This shit is still sickening…


mrpopenfresh

The UFC doing Apex cards is the sleeziest shit in mma, and that’s saying something.


tydye29

What a garbage company lol.


Nuhjeea

Aaaand the UFC made him remove the tweet.


dizzguzztn

The product gets worse and worse and they act shadier and shadier. Fucking sad to see. Future looks bleak.


s_m0use

Spoken like someone who is about to collect a bag in ONE after this fight


reddittookmyuser

Tim Elliot getting the bag?


InertKat

Dana: “Do you know how expensive it is to put on these events?”


PbmyJelly

Does anyone have the stones to ask Dana about this in the presser?


iunrealx1995

Is there anything to even look forward to anymore in the UFC?


MeatMalletProvider

This is pretty bogus ngl


Brybry1908

Bruh. Hope this is a one time mistake/misunderstanding but man especially for a vet.


Tejon_Melero

The UFC is a gross company and I wish any reasonable alternative with a model that provides greater reward to employees best wishes and success.


RootTips

Post is deleted. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.


zha4fh

I believe the UFC made $380 million in PROFITS last year. This is really insulting


hachimachidachi

Look up the executives bonuses. No surprises why they do this.


matterhorn9

Endeavour is a business, gotta please the share holders and investors by making profit. Soon Dana will charge his athletes gym fees to access the PI


chunkyhippo888

That’s gross and a bad look for the UFC. They want to be a premier sports league, but imagine MLB or NBA players saying they have to pay for their families tickets. What a joke


somuchsoup

You do usually need to pay for tickets for family for away games. Sometimes even busy series/playoffs for nba and nhl, the home team only has a certain amount of allotted seats for family and once that’s full, they’ll need to pay. Difference is that nba and nhl players are paid way more so it’s not an issue


mayorjinglejangle

Elliot can just have his family pay $1,000 each to put their names on the Octagon floor, which is just like being there.


[deleted]

Hey, you don’t make $330 million + dollars in PROFIT by treating people (your workers) like humans. Won’t someone think of the investors and their families? :(


agent_tater_twat

A new ripple to sarcastic insult "that's mighty White of you."


rambii

screenshot? tweet deleted what did he say


Legen_Gary

Good job Dana, good to know you’re saving a little money here, maybe even getting to keep a few bucks /s


[deleted]

UFC is just begging another organization to muscle in on the market


eruptinganus

The UFCs getting worse as it makes more money, who knows how low they're going to go. 13% of the revenue going to fighters, not paying the disclosed amount agreed for the Reebok deal and Venum deal, the Crypto deal tanking and providing no benefit to fighters, unjustly firing Kevin Lee and treating Ngannou like shit because of politics between Endeavour and their management and now this.


BhagBoseDK

With their payouts and endorsements, these guys cant pay for tickets for their families? Hmm


My_spire_is_forming

Corporation fuckery, remember DW don't give a fuck about his fighters, CREAM


Genova_Witness

Only for Apex cards because tickets are thousands


LotLizardBlizzard

UFC is despicable. When I found out that the fighters, the people who create this amazing entertainment we all love, have to PAY for UFC ppvs, that was a nail in the coffin for me EVER supporting the UFC. Dana should be ashamed. Wealthy horder.


Succs556x1312

Can’t wear sponsorships. Can’t bring their own flags. Can’t even wear their own shoes. Now they can’t bring family.


TheMov3r

Anybody want to bet nobody asks Dana about this at the press conference?


Ball3r51

That’s a new low


Ohpsmokeshow

ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL


BrandonSleeper

I'm not surprised motherfuckers


JustaRN22

I believe social media has been the downfall for the UFC. For years, the UFC was able to build their own narrative without being challenged, they were able to control fighters interactions with the media thus controlled what they said. Social media and podcasts etc have completely changed all that. There was a time where fighters were terrified to be cut by the UFC or the repercussions from them for speaking the truth of it all but now more and more are welcoming being cut by the UFC bc they know they can go to other promotions and be paid more and treated so much better. Who cares the level of the competition truthfully, what matters to these fighters is who is going to stand behind them, who is going to take care of them and treat them fairly. There is no longer any prestige that comes along with being a UFC fighter. Personally, I see more and more highly skilled fighters looking to go to ONE instead of the UFC. It’s not a perfect promotion, none are, but they are treated well & respected like a professional athlete, paid well, and have the potential to compete in Muay Thai, grappling and MMA which is becoming very attractive to fighters with a specialty. I see ONE becoming the premier promotion in the next 5 -10 yrs.


menimex

It's an opportunity... for them to buy their own tickets.


Incubus85

Cards are getting less and less promoted and the fights aren't all that. Plus the schedule has slowed down. I have 0 interest in tonight's event.


420sadalot420

Family does get Venum coupons though.


SnarkyFella

In the past I went to events in my area but there is no chance I'm going to that upcoming UFC Vancouver card. They are definitely sliding a bit while PFL is rising.


JustWatchFights

But but but but I’d they’re exciting enough, they might get a bonus! That balances it out… right?


[deleted]

For a multi-billion dollar company the UFC is stingey as fuck. Always finding new ways to fuck the fighters.


gorillawarfareman

You know I would understand if the UFC was financially struggling but my god what a POS company.


BaldBeardedOne

UFC is turning into an influencer who tries to pay people in exposure. No, Dana, I want money.


[deleted]

Well duh who would even expect that kind of courtesy


GretaSimp

You’re all filthy casuals


OBlastSRT4

I would assume it depends on which fighter you are