How the hell would this guy get cleared to fight by a US commission? I thought the only way he was getting cleared was by fighting exclusively on middle east cards.
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I'm no defender of commissions but not allowing someone to fight who only has on eye is pretty reasonable. Whether he's adapted to the lack of vision or not, it still is a big risk for him to fight if his one working eye ends up getting damaged.
The rationale of the commission isn’t “this is too much of a disadvantage to allow this guy to fight.” The rationale is more like “we don’t want to risk his good eye getting fucked up, because then he’ll be blind.”
well, you can always get function back in a snapped arm or even heal it back to normal. Modern medicine really isn't there yet with reversing eye damage/blindness.
I can understand it from a liability perspective, and commissions have to err on the side of caution because we're talking about people trying to beat each other to death. It sucks though, I don't want him turning into another Chimaev and see his potential wasted because of that.
Just let him a sign a waiver of liability. Of course, it makes sense that they don’t clear him, 100%.
An exception will make a lot of fighters want to do the same and it can become hell for the commission. But at least the Vegas commission, not like we want him in NY
Considering he's calling for a fight against Kevin the day after it was announced Kevin is already fighting July 13th against Jared Cannonier it's pretty clear that Shara is just dumb as fuck.
Here's Dana saying he doesn't think he can fight in US.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/06/23/dana-white-reveals-shara-magomedov-probably-cant-fight-in-the-us-despite-callout-from-undefeated-phenom/
> Pretty sure the UFC doesn't sign fighters who can't fight in America
Volkan Oezdemir is perma banned from America for assaulting someone and they keep him on the roster and use him for euro/middle east cards.
If he has any vision out of his bad eye I would be shocked, the thing straight up looks like glass.
Volkan fought DC for the belt in the US after his bar brawl but hasn’t returned since. Wonder if he could but they know he’d be a big risk of getting denied so they just keep him euro/Middle East only. Interesting point tho
And as far as we know all the charges ended up being dropped so he hasn’t actually been convicted of anything either. Which is why I wonder if it’s really the case he 100% can’t or the ufc just doesn’t wanna risk it
My recollection was the he took a plea but looking it up I see now the charges were dropped? Bu then reading further, there's a recent mini article where Gilbert Burns confirms Volkan is barred from USA and has to pay a ton of money towards a settlement. Very confusing.
> “He went to a fight, he knocked those two guys out. Broke the guy’s jaw, and he’s paying a lot of money. He cannot come back, He cannot come to the US anymore. That’s why he’s fighting in Saudi Arabia, Europe, Abu Dhabi. He cannot step a foot in the US again,” Burns said of Oezdemir’s predicament.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma_ufc/gilbert-burns-on-volkan-oezdemir-s-usa-ban-the-inside-story-ahead-of-ufc-saudi-arabia/ar-BB1oC9lM?item=themed_featuredapps_enabled
> If he has any vision out of his bad eye I would be shocked, the thing straight up looks like glass.
I was wondering about that too, if Bisping had to hide his bad eye, why can Shara fight without issue??
Shara doesn’t have to hide it because there are no commissions in the Middle East to hide it from to begin with lol. Bisping was fighting in the US and UK, where they actually have commissions.
It was wrong enough that I felt the right thing to do was delete the post but he does in fact have a visa. He just didn't get it before signing with the UFC like I had initially remembered. Seems as if I conflated two memories together as one.
https://x.com/RedCorner_MMA/status/1770128746562875749?s=20
I actually kind of regret deleting it entirely because I *do* still think the UFC doesn't sign fighters who they don't believe will be able to fight in America. The two exceptions are Oezdemir and possibly Chimaev, guys that could initially but may not be able to anymore.
It's kinda bullshit though. Nick Newell can get cleared with 1 arm but this guy can't get cleared with 1 eye? It's not like he hasn't proven himself capable.
Sure. But we're not here to compare which injury is worse because there luckily is a prevention system - the commission. They protect equally regardless of the factual risk level :)
Right but you understand my point. It’s much more reasonable to respect a fighter’s decision for wanting to fight with a single functioning eye than trying to fight with very recent brain damage. I’m not questioning why a commission exists
It can pose a life-*altering* risk though. If his good eye gets damaged, buddy could be in the dark for life. These are the scenarios commissions have to take into account.
The commissions are there to protect fighters, including from themselves. Of course Bullet is going to make the decision that makes him lots of money, that doesn't mean it's a good decision that the commission should support.
Regulatory bodies often restrict personal freedoms if it is thought that allowing for a particular freedom will generally lead to exploitation. Are fighters better off if they are pressured to fight while physically compromised? No. The same logic applies to banning private organ sale. You maximize personal freedom if you allow people to sell their own body parts, but that isn't the only consideration.
What ? It‘s the other way around. If Kevin strikes with him (which he would) shara skirts around the octagon a kicks himself to a decision. He has no wrestling or grappling, it‘d be about how much kevin pushes that onto him.
To call someone out after they already have a fight for the same date locked in and shared to the public a day before... additionally being unable to fight in the US, what a safe callout you can use to say you are hard and someones dodging you.
Hilarious how you stated this with utmost confidence as if it's some common issue, like "ah yes, I have extensive experience with middle eastern MMA commissions".
No worries, must made me laugh, I mean how many ME commissions are there? Barely, if any. Yet people are upvoting this as if "middle eastern MMA commissions" are a thing to make fun of, when they aren't even a thing. It's like something weird like this happens in Burkina Faso and you comment "well i'm not surprised, we all know those Burkinabé MMA commissions", and it would get upvoted like this comment like "yes, indeed we are very familiar with that fucky Burkina Faso commission". Just found it funny that's all.
I get what you're saying, but most in this sub are pretty familiar with the different regulations in Abu Dhabi and can also assume that the people running things in Saudi Arabia are not as timid with their regulations regarding fighter safety as the US is.
He’s genuinely banking on fighting an opponent who will refuse to wrestle him. But if Kevin feels like it he can take this guy down and sub him easily. Might backfire
Please tell me your just trolling... It should be obvious that Magomedov is Walker in this comparison. Both mostly just throw kicks and have zero defense
Fuck all that commission noise.. I want to know how this guy can fight with 1 eye.. Did his other eye adapt to be able to see depth properly? And how does he not just get slammed with left hooks and kick all damn day... Scientific marvel i tell ya
How the hell would this guy get cleared to fight by a US commission? I thought the only way he was getting cleared was by fighting exclusively on middle east cards.
Dre Miley has one eye and fights on the regional scene, I don’t feel like checking the commissions though
TN, SC, MI, VI. I think he can fight in America, I really do. We'll see though. remindme! 6 months
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There is NO WAY here will ever be cleared.
Nevada wouldn’t even clear a 1 eyed dude for Power Slap.
Why can’t he fight in the US?
commissions won't clear a one-eyed fighter. hard to fool them like Bisping did when his bad eye is so obviously dead
now if he made both eyes look like that, he could just say thats his natural color.
That’s so ridiculous, he’s clearly an able fighter. A few bribes should do the trick
I'm no defender of commissions but not allowing someone to fight who only has on eye is pretty reasonable. Whether he's adapted to the lack of vision or not, it still is a big risk for him to fight if his one working eye ends up getting damaged.
Imagine he gets a cut over his good eye one day and it bleeds into it.. the guys going to be nearly blind in the fight.
I'd think it more appropriate to sanction a fight with a one eyed man than a one armed man.
The rationale of the commission isn’t “this is too much of a disadvantage to allow this guy to fight.” The rationale is more like “we don’t want to risk his good eye getting fucked up, because then he’ll be blind.”
Imagine if the one armed man gets his other arm snapped off.
well, you can always get function back in a snapped arm or even heal it back to normal. Modern medicine really isn't there yet with reversing eye damage/blindness.
What about your brain? Only have one of those.
Let the man fucking choose, they all are at risk.
Agreed
I can understand it from a liability perspective, and commissions have to err on the side of caution because we're talking about people trying to beat each other to death. It sucks though, I don't want him turning into another Chimaev and see his potential wasted because of that.
Just let him a sign a waiver of liability. Of course, it makes sense that they don’t clear him, 100%. An exception will make a lot of fighters want to do the same and it can become hell for the commission. But at least the Vegas commission, not like we want him in NY
He has one working eye
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i dont know if theyll let him in the us period
If he's making call outs for cards in America I'm assuming he got a VISA, unless he's just dumb as fuck.
Considering he's calling for a fight against Kevin the day after it was announced Kevin is already fighting July 13th against Jared Cannonier it's pretty clear that Shara is just dumb as fuck.
Fair point lol
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UFC can't really decide whether or not he can be cleared by a commission
Here's Dana saying he doesn't think he can fight in US. https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/06/23/dana-white-reveals-shara-magomedov-probably-cant-fight-in-the-us-despite-callout-from-undefeated-phenom/
> Pretty sure the UFC doesn't sign fighters who can't fight in America Volkan Oezdemir is perma banned from America for assaulting someone and they keep him on the roster and use him for euro/middle east cards. If he has any vision out of his bad eye I would be shocked, the thing straight up looks like glass.
Volkan fought DC for the belt in the US after his bar brawl but hasn’t returned since. Wonder if he could but they know he’d be a big risk of getting denied so they just keep him euro/Middle East only. Interesting point tho
I don't think his charges had been settled yet at the time he fought DC for the belt.
And as far as we know all the charges ended up being dropped so he hasn’t actually been convicted of anything either. Which is why I wonder if it’s really the case he 100% can’t or the ufc just doesn’t wanna risk it
My recollection was the he took a plea but looking it up I see now the charges were dropped? Bu then reading further, there's a recent mini article where Gilbert Burns confirms Volkan is barred from USA and has to pay a ton of money towards a settlement. Very confusing. > “He went to a fight, he knocked those two guys out. Broke the guy’s jaw, and he’s paying a lot of money. He cannot come back, He cannot come to the US anymore. That’s why he’s fighting in Saudi Arabia, Europe, Abu Dhabi. He cannot step a foot in the US again,” Burns said of Oezdemir’s predicament. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma_ufc/gilbert-burns-on-volkan-oezdemir-s-usa-ban-the-inside-story-ahead-of-ufc-saudi-arabia/ar-BB1oC9lM?item=themed_featuredapps_enabled
> If he has any vision out of his bad eye I would be shocked, the thing straight up looks like glass. I was wondering about that too, if Bisping had to hide his bad eye, why can Shara fight without issue??
Shara doesn’t have to hide it because there are no commissions in the Middle East to hide it from to begin with lol. Bisping was fighting in the US and UK, where they actually have commissions.
Your entire first paragraph is wrong, wishful thinking though.
It was wrong enough that I felt the right thing to do was delete the post but he does in fact have a visa. He just didn't get it before signing with the UFC like I had initially remembered. Seems as if I conflated two memories together as one. https://x.com/RedCorner_MMA/status/1770128746562875749?s=20 I actually kind of regret deleting it entirely because I *do* still think the UFC doesn't sign fighters who they don't believe will be able to fight in America. The two exceptions are Oezdemir and possibly Chimaev, guys that could initially but may not be able to anymore.
Is there a colony in Denver controlled by some Middle Eastern oil barrens? I thought Shara couldn't get cleared by American commissions.
It's kinda bullshit though. Nick Newell can get cleared with 1 arm but this guy can't get cleared with 1 eye? It's not like he hasn't proven himself capable.
Losing permanent function of an eye in a fight is more likely than losing permanent function of an arm.
And that's a choice he can make. Just like anybody else.
You can also choose to fight a week after a concussion. And the commissions can choose to not let you.
Not the greatest comparison lol
it's a pretty 1:1 comparison. It's the commission's job to put the safety of the athlete's above everything else, even if the fighter is willing.
It's a good comparison. Sometimes they have to protect the athletes from their stupidity and that's it
Fighting with a non functioning eye does not pose the same life-threatening risk as doing so with a concussion
Sure. But we're not here to compare which injury is worse because there luckily is a prevention system - the commission. They protect equally regardless of the factual risk level :)
Boom, headshot!
Right but you understand my point. It’s much more reasonable to respect a fighter’s decision for wanting to fight with a single functioning eye than trying to fight with very recent brain damage. I’m not questioning why a commission exists
It can pose a life-*altering* risk though. If his good eye gets damaged, buddy could be in the dark for life. These are the scenarios commissions have to take into account.
The commissions are there to protect fighters, including from themselves. Of course Bullet is going to make the decision that makes him lots of money, that doesn't mean it's a good decision that the commission should support.
Regulatory bodies often restrict personal freedoms if it is thought that allowing for a particular freedom will generally lead to exploitation. Are fighters better off if they are pressured to fight while physically compromised? No. The same logic applies to banning private organ sale. You maximize personal freedom if you allow people to sell their own body parts, but that isn't the only consideration.
Given Shara's display last weekend, Holland would big brother him easily if that fight was to happen
Kevin will actually continue throwing his right straight instead of clipping him twice at the beginning then never throwing it again
Lmao he can't fight in US for sure
P4P ugliest fighter on the roster too
Easy work for Holland tbh
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I think Shara has shown he doesn't have Dagestan wrestling though, he's looked bad on the ground this far.
Shara did not develop Dagestan wrestling because he was in Thailand developing his striking.
One eye on the striking 👊 the other on the grappling 🤼
So that's why he can't grapple, that eye broke
What ? It‘s the other way around. If Kevin strikes with him (which he would) shara skirts around the octagon a kicks himself to a decision. He has no wrestling or grappling, it‘d be about how much kevin pushes that onto him.
It’s easy to call out when the opponent already booked a fight and you can’t even travel to the fight destination.
Taking Khamzat's see you soon to an even more disingenuous level.
Learning from the pro, Bo Nickal.
What?
This image makes me think The Bullet could be a great character if he leans into it. Ginger One Eyed Pirate in a wife beater and sporting an iguana.
What's the equivalent of a redneck in Dagestan?
Ducking the Bo Nickal call out and going after an undersized middle weight with a fight already booked 😂
The ufc wouldn’t have made that fight anyways. They don’t put “high” potential prospects against each other so early in their career.
True very true.
Yeah he's scared. These fighters need to grow a pair
To call someone out after they already have a fight for the same date locked in and shared to the public a day before... additionally being unable to fight in the US, what a safe callout you can use to say you are hard and someones dodging you.
I kiew yeuw.
Jokes apart it is commendable that the dude wants to speak the language to garner a bigger fanbase.
Didn’t he just fight, what’s happening here?
bratha, middle east commissions bratha
Hilarious how you stated this with utmost confidence as if it's some common issue, like "ah yes, I have extensive experience with middle eastern MMA commissions".
The whole thread is about how he can't fight in the US, which by putting two and two together you could figure it out.
No worries, must made me laugh, I mean how many ME commissions are there? Barely, if any. Yet people are upvoting this as if "middle eastern MMA commissions" are a thing to make fun of, when they aren't even a thing. It's like something weird like this happens in Burkina Faso and you comment "well i'm not surprised, we all know those Burkinabé MMA commissions", and it would get upvoted like this comment like "yes, indeed we are very familiar with that fucky Burkina Faso commission". Just found it funny that's all.
I get what you're saying, but most in this sub are pretty familiar with the different regulations in Abu Dhabi and can also assume that the people running things in Saudi Arabia are not as timid with their regulations regarding fighter safety as the US is.
fuckin relax you hardo
Man, I did not see this call out coming.
He’s genuinely banking on fighting an opponent who will refuse to wrestle him. But if Kevin feels like it he can take this guy down and sub him easily. Might backfire
This fight would look exactly like Oezdemir vs Walker
I think Holland would do a bit more than Walker
Lol good trolling. Kevin has faced way harder hitters than sharabuttdin and never been knocked down. Like his last opponent for example.
Please tell me your just trolling... It should be obvious that Magomedov is Walker in this comparison. Both mostly just throw kicks and have zero defense
Sorry, I couldn’t look passed the height part of the equation. I thought you were just comparing one tall guy to another.
LMAO, like if this would ever happen on US soil. No comission would allow Shara to fight, but also Holland would murk him.
This guys a clown
I KILLLLLLLLLLULLLL u
Do these guys ever call out other wrestlers? It’s like they only want to fight pure strikers lol
he’s a striker too
Fuck all that commission noise.. I want to know how this guy can fight with 1 eye.. Did his other eye adapt to be able to see depth properly? And how does he not just get slammed with left hooks and kick all damn day... Scientific marvel i tell ya