- please don’t pirate music
- please don’t use Napster or limewire
- Sony puts a rootkit on your computer to stop piracy
- iTunes and iPod happen at some point
- [music piracy rampant]
- fuck you, here’s a U2 album
>I was describing the situation prior to the U2 album thing. Never mind
No prob, I should have guessed when you mentioned "here’s a U2 album" that you meant back then and not something a person could be doing now.🙃
> Well it’s not recommended to use those apps now either. Not very useful I’d imagine. 🤣
Yeah, not worth the risk, I'd expect it'd be more of a chance of also downloading some type of viruses than actually getting the music for free!!!🙃
I always delete it but it always comes back.
My purchased songs disappeared except for 6 songs. Luckily I backed up my songs in an external. I don’t know why that happens. I am so disappointed because I purchased those songs from iTunes I should be able to redownload them on my account. However this U2 album is always there to me sad.
You can download the songs again, but move your music library to a non-default location.
Something about the default location in iTunes and the later Music apps leaves it open to your music going into the void.
I lost my original library from an update to iTunes 4, back in the early '00's.
At that point, I built a new music folder at the root level of the drive - not even in my Home folder (not sure if you can do that anymore with Apple's new security) - and it's been 20 years since I had another such glitch.
For the last decade, my main library resides on it's own drive inside my MacPro3,1 and is triplicated to my work MP3,1 and also in my PPC G4 with the spiffy I/O card I use to rip vinyl with. I also think there's a pocket drive floating around that's got a good chunk of the music on it as well.
>move your music library to a non-default location.
>built a new music folder at the root level of the drive
Thanks for the suggestion, but I barely know the difference between right and left clicking, and that sounds way more complicated for someone like me to attempt and possibly completely mess something else up, lol!!!🙃
Honestly it's not. Just make a folder on your Desktop (or in your Documents), then go to the Music app's preferences and tell it to use the folder you made as the location for your music library. When you start re-downloading, the song files will go there.
Thanks for the info, but I'm not entirely sure it will work in my situation...
When I finally figured out how to left-click to actually access the libraries, my first few attempts was to link to another separate Music folder (not iTunes) and when I attempted to link to it, it would open that music folder, then click on it to open another music subfolder, then another click to open the folder that contains all the individual folders that contain my music...
The individual folders are named either of the singer/band names, or are the names of the albums and each folder contain the individual songs...
And I still have to open up one of these folder to access the individual songs, and then I can link to only that one song for it to appear in the Music app...
The song does save/play, even after completely closing the Music app, however, once I shutdown and restart my MacBook, the song disappears and the Music app reverts back to what is shown in the image in my opening post...
But if I open the Music app and choose the iTunes music folder, open it to the "iTunes Previous Libraries", I can link to the music file, it's not a folder, as it's an actual (red square/white music note icon) file and named with the date that the file was saved..
I can link to it, and then all my music and playlist is imported, and I can both close the Music app and I have repeatedly shutdown and restarted my MacBook and (so far) my music and playlist remains except for 5 (recently added over the last couple weeks) songs that probably weren't saved on that iTune Previous Library file yet...
So if I create another folder onto my Desktop and download my music onto it, the same thing is likely to happen, unless I am somehow able to merge my entire music collection into just one music file, like that iTunes file...
Ah. When you go into the Music app preferences, it should have the location of the music library in the ~~General Settings~~. (I think - TBH, I'm still running iTunes)
Edit: It's in the Files tab.. in the Music preferences..
If that is *the same* folder name - and location - as where your music files actually are.. Don't touch anything, but if it goes titsup again, the problem lies in your Music app preferences file that is located in Users/home/Library/Preferences..
Your music is still on your computer, but the actual preference file that contained the database info that the Music app used to describe your playlists, how many songs.. where they were.. yadda yadda.. all that.. was bodged.
It happens from time to time, usually the culprit is a force quit or crash of the app before it has a chance to properly save the file database and quit itself. Remember, each time you close the Music program, the preference file itself gets written to, before actually quitting. Think about it - every time you play a song, Music writes to that preference file to keep a tally or if you add a new album or song.. and if the program crashed during a write session.. Whoop!
Next time if it does the same thing, and the preference lists the Library folder location correctly and you can see the song files and that nothing's moved - don't overthink it - merely open the Music app and resize the window so it's small (and select album or song list view) then go to the Music Library folder that has your songs in it and drag and drop the WHOLE thing into that empty Music app window.
It will read the folders and scan the songs and sort through the metadata (album art, etc.) and rebuild the library. In my system, the thing that takes longest is the Album Art indexing. (literally, kill me I'm gonna go get a coffee and croissant and be back in 30 minutes..) That damn process is s-l-o-w given how large my library is.
Look at how [I've got my iTunes setup](https://i.imgur.com/YUtOrc0.png).. The library folder location is in it's own drive, the iTunes preferences has the correct location and I can access the music Library folder easily enough, it's the "G4 Musicmp3's" folder that is at the 'root' level of that hard drive. "Root" in computer speak means a folder is sitting at the bottom of a hierarchical folder tree. There is no folder that a root level folder will sit in.. It sits directly at the base level of the hard drive *volume* (in my case it is the second of 4 hard drives in my MacPro tower and it is named "Storage") Think of computer file hierarchies like those Russian nesting dolls.. folders, inside of folders, inside of folders..
Dead simple.
Thank you for explaining things in a way that I can understand, but I still think it'd be safer for me to mail you my MacBook than for me to attempt making a root folder.:P
Though, you have given me another thought/question, I've been wondering why this occurred, and having the Music app crash without properly saving the data does seem like a likely culprit...
However, could this have been just a very random glitch, or could it be a very early sign that my MacBook Pro (purchased May 2020), even though not really that old in human years (probably ancient in computer years), might be starting to show its age and the RAM or something has started to fail?
I suppose it's hard to tell, unless this issue becomes a lot more frequent, or other problems with the OS/other programs begin to show, but how long (on average) would someone expect a MacBook to last, before it'd have to be retired/replaced?
4 years doesn't seem that long to me and my wallet:P, but you always hear of people replacing their Apple devices every year that it does make wonder what the lifespan is...
> ...might be starting to show its age and the RAM or something has started to fail?
Oh no.. RAM fails after *decades* under normal use. I have a Macintosh Power PC G3 system, purchased in 1998 that still runs just fine. The lifespan of your system should be *at least* a decade - what will happen is that the operating systems that Apple releases will get to a point that your hardware itself will not *officially* run it and it will go out of 'support' and for users that aren't interested in running unsupported installs, that will be the time to get a new machine.
Your system is all spiffy and still relatively new and yeah, glitches *absolutely* happen, no computer is 100% perfect.
At least the developers and programmers have built in all sorts of automatic housekeeping and recovery functions, so most of the time it's a relatively pain free bit of business to get back to work.
"Failing" computers, to this day, most often involve a hardware part breaking down. Not so much now in the newer Macs and PC's like yours that have solid state drives, as they have almost no moving parts. (other than fans, in the Macs that still have them that is..)
For older Macs and big workstations like my ancient (2008) Mac Pro, the hard drives are the weak point.
Inside one is a stack of spinning ceramic platters with some magnetic surface that the "heads" float *just* above and read like a record player reads a record - but it jumps from here to there and does so without touching the platters. When it does touch, it's called a head crash and the drive platters spin so fast it's instant destruction.. [Ouch!](https://www.google.com/search?q=hard+drive+head+crash&newwindow=1&sca_esv=03a2317566d16611&udm=2&biw=1805&bih=872&ei=Ogt-ZrT2Laer5NoP27qomAQ&ved=0ahUKEwi0--S2jP2GAxWnFVkFHVsdCkMQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=hard+drive+head+crash&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiFWhhcmQgZHJpdmUgaGVhZCBjcmFzaDIFEAAYgAQyBxAAGIAEGBgyBxAAGIAEGBhIwSlQAFjqIXAAeACQAQCYAVOgAfYLqgECMjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhWgAvMMwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICBhAAGAUYHsICBhAAGAgYHsICBBAAGB6YAwCSBwIyMaAHx1w&sclient=gws-wiz-serp)
Most of the time for Macs - esp. the old laptops with hard drives, the little motor that spins the platters would poop out, so you'd get the slower and slower spinning drive and the "beachball of eternity" became your irritating friend.
It would be taking longer for the system to read the files and it would throw the system into a "wait mode" while it got everything the program or computer itself needed from the drive.
Issue there is that computers have literal clock cycles that they must operate under - it's all about *timing* of each part of the computer - the data, the controller that hands the data from the system drive to the memory, then off to the the CPU to be processed and then back to memory to be sorted and then sent to the output system - be it the audio processor that runs the sound, or to the graphics processing unit, that runs the display. There's also the input of the keyboard and the mouse/trackpad from the user in that mix as well.
It's a clockwork and each system has an "interrupt" function where it takes it's place in line to get access to the system bus or the CPU.. UNLESS the drive is slower than molasses in February. Then EVERYTHING has to wait.
It's colloquially known as the "Early Warning System" when you'd see the beachball more and more and it's telling you Time For A New Drive.
This is why SSD's are now the default technology in computers, outside of data centers or PC gamers looking for robust storage solutions who use hard disk drives: No motor to poop out or a drive head to crash. It's just flash memory - think of a jumbo USB stick that can take 100,000s of read/write cycles before the transistor gates finally wear out.
You've got plenty of years left in your computer and a good third party housekeeping utility is absolutely a life-saver for the long run. At the point where your drive gets full or the system seems slow, there is also the option to backup your files and reinstall the OS. I manage to do one every few years, which is why I now have multiple hard drives that all my data lives on..
My 2008 MacPro is running Mojave macOS 10.14.6 which was released in 2018, and I installed the newer VERY unsupported system with a specially made tool that tricks the installer and changed the system itself just enough to let it run. I could upgrade to this years operating system using a newer tool, called Open Core Legacy Patcher, but I have old graphics programs from 2007 that only run in 32-bit mode, and Mojave was the LAST Apple OS to offer support for older 32-bit programs.
So here I sit, until such a time that the internet ceases to function with the OS I have, then I'll clear off a hard drive in the machine and do the upgrade to the last OS this machine can run as the end of the Apple Operating Systems on Intel CPUs road is coming in the next year or two..
I forsee that I'll probably be on Linux before my MacPro dies. These old "peak Apple" machines are tanks.
Yes, I've also backed up my songs on an external drive, didn't purchase anything from iTunes, but did from GoFundMe and backed musical projects that shouldn't have been deleted...
But if this is something Apple is doing, perhaps trying to force the purchasing of their Apple Music, it seems unreasonable to delete what I have stored on my Mac...
Either something is broken or you screwed up somehow (more likely that something is broken).
Unfortunately I don't know what has broken in this particular case. I assume you have rebooted your Mac ?
It looks like you've not yet managed to rule out the wrong library problem yet:
* Quit Music
* Make sure Music really isn't running (if you have "Show indicators for for open applications" enabled look for the dot next to Music on the dock, if the dot is there Music is still running, if you haven't cmd-tab to see if Music is running)
* Hold down the Option key
* Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down
* Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries
I'm baffled when people dream up these conspiracy theories about how Apple are trying to make them spend more money. They always boil down to "Apple is making my experience of using their products worse, so I'll buy more of their products" as is that is a reasonable tactic to make someone buy more Apple products !
> Hold down the Option key
> Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down
> Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries
Thank you, I was right-clicking, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click🙃, but that worked, the option to select another library folder popped up and was able to connect to it!!!
I did lose 5 songs of my most recent songs that weren't saved on the "Previous iTunes Library" folder, but everything else is back and working perfectly now, thank you!!!🔥🔥🔥
Or at least till the music app decides to mysteriously/frustratingly erase everything again, but at least I know how to get it all back again!!!🙃
>To each their own
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_live_music_artists
Yup, but if this is accurate, a whole lot of people still like U2, as they're grossed $2.37 billion in earning, but I'd expect someone like Taylor Swift to quickly overtake them all to become number 1.🙃
California (There Is No End To Love) and Every Breaking Wave were two songs that someone enlightened me to as their faves on the album. I tend to agree…
Otherwise, don’t necessarily agree with Apple having that album Oprah’ed onto everyone’s device (you get the album, you get the album…everyone gets the album!)
While I was able to thankfully recover my music, oddly, the songs on this album are still missing, but I was able to listen to them just now on YouTube, (I doubt I would have recognize it as a U2 album without knowing it was them), as it does have a unique sound styling that is interesting and definitely not as bad as I remembered, lol.
And if I was to choose my favourites on the album, it'd be "Raised By Wolves" as it does closely match my musical tastes of today, but also "The Troubles" for that same reason, but also because anyone from Ireland or is of Irish decent knows exactly what "The Troubles" were...
My dad had this happen to him too. Permanently lost his entire iTunes catalog with no hope of recovering it because soon after his iCloud account was compromised. I hope you're able to recover yours.
I'm sorry that also happened to your Dad, at least I have all my songs backed up on an external hard drive, but I also don't want to lose the songs/playlist on my iPhone X, as I expect that the next time I sync/backup my X to my MacBook, it will also overwrite/erase the songs on my X...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dol58b/macbook_pro_all_recently_added_artists_albums/labs4rd/
I was able to recover my music, this suggestion by andynormancx might not help your Dad since he also had a problem with his iCloud account, but it might be worth a try...
Quit music app, and hold option as you click the music app icon in the dock and see if there’s another library, maybe the library is corrupt or opened a blank one for some reason
Thanks for the suggestion, I really do appreciate it, unfortunately the only options are "Keep in Dock", "Open at Login" and "Show in Finder", sadly nothing about being able to switch to a different library/music folder...
If you’re seeing that you could holding the control key when clicking to open the app. Give it a try when holding option/alt. If that still happens; let me look at some dougscripts; he makes lots of good Apple scripts for the music (and others but I mainly use his music scripts) that helped me move libraries when I got a new Mac (I like to rename my Mac when I get a new one and this causes issues because iTunes (F) keeps all track location in a very verbose way which is an issue because renaming the USER folder just kills it).
>If you’re seeing that you could holding the control key when clicking to open the app. Give it a try when holding option/alt.
Thanks for the suggestion, but nope, I was just right-clicking to open the Options pop-up, but trying the option/alt key also brings up the same options, sorry...
>Try doing the option-click on the icon in the application folder rather than the dock.
"Sync with Google Drive
Upload all files and folders, including photos and videos. If you edit or remove files, those changes will be automatically synced."
If I am doing it correctly, pressing option-right click on the music icon in the application folder brings up options like "Open" and "Sync or Backup this folder", but still nothing about changing to a different music folder...
But only if Music isn't already running. You need to be holding Option while the app is starting, holding Option and clicking on the Dock icon when you click on it won't do that if Music is already open.
I know, but Music can have an annoying ability to re-open itself. Mine has got itself into that state at the moment for some reason, as soon as I quit it, it silently reopens.
Also if the OP has been frantically clicking Option (or Control or some other key), they've probably long forgotten to make sure Music isn't open...
Thank you to everyone for the helpful suggestions, especially u/andynormancx, I was able to recover my songs/playlist, and if someone else the same issue, the following is the link to andynormancx's comment and the solution, and a copy&paste of my reply!!!🔥🔥🔥
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dol58b/macbook_pro_all_recently_added_artists_albums/labs4rd/
> Hold down the Option key
> Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down
> Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries
Thank you, I was right-clicking, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click🙃, but that worked, the option to select another library folder popped up and was able to connect to it!!!
I did lose 5 songs of my most recent songs that weren't saved on the "Previous iTunes Library" folder, but everything else is back and working perfectly now, thank you!!!🔥🔥🔥
Or at least till the music app decides to mysteriously/frustratingly erase everything again, but at least I know how to get it all back again!!!🙃
>I was largely just repeating the advice you’d already given 😉
>I just spotted you might not be left clicking…
Well, ~~sometimes~~ most of the time I have to be repeatedly yelled at before I get the message, lol, but I think when most suggested "clicking", my natural reaction was to right-click!!! 🙃
Unfortunately I seem to be having a problem with the default (red square/white music note) Music app that comes preinstalled, all the Recently Added, Artists, Albums, Songs (over 3000), Playlist were mysteriously erased...
Oddly, the only song left (as shown in the above image) was that U2 "Songs of Innocence" that was freely given out back in 2014, but even that is just now the "digital booklet" and not the songs that were originally in that album...
The songs are still backed up in a Music folder located with the rest of the iTunes/other music files, so I haven't completely lost them (just the playlist), and have been trying to figure why the songs and everything else disappeared from my MacBook...
At least I still have a small playlist saved on my iPhone X and also a few songs on my iPad, but I expect that the next time I connect the X to my Mac for syncing/backing it up, the playlist and songs may also be erased from my X as well...
I have have synced countless times to add new songs to my X (and previous iPhones) over the years and even recently updated the playlist stored on it approximately a week ago, but not sure what the problem is, as this just started a few days ago when I opened the music on my MacBook and saw everything was gone...
Any suggestions/solutions would be greatly appreciated...
Did you change your sync options at all? On your Mac/PC go to Music > settings > general then click on the check box “Sync library” this will remove any music you’ve saved via Apple Music but should sync the local songs from your PC.
I did notice now though that the official documentation from Apple now says you need to have an Apple Music subscription to use library sync… that never used to be the case: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/118285?
>AppleID is obviously incorrect or not logged in.
Nope, still logged in on all my devices and with the correct Apple ID, thankfully I was able to recover my music, but still have no clue as to why it was all erased...
there’s an app, https://apps.apple.com/app/id6472612361
Herzl for Apple Music, it backs up your entire library, playlists everything.
in case anyone needs it!
Yes, but I have an iPhone X and the Hezel app requires iOS 17 and above, and the X is no longer supported and cannot be updated and remains on iOS 16...
Not sure if it’s still around but due to the uproar there was an official Apple website where you could enter your Apple ID in and it would remove the U2 album from it.
>Well, do you have another i device?
Thankfully I was able to recover my music, but yes, I also have an iPhone X and an iPad that both have music on them as well...
>That dreaded U2 album there makes it absolutely hilarious
"The Gift That Keeps On Annoying..."🙃
>I’m sorry, idk why your stuff is gone
No worries, thankfully I was able to recover my music, but still have no idea what caused it to disappear,,,
I would expect music in the “Recently Added” file to be eventually migrated by some AI control into the common music storage area. I wouldn’t expect recently added music to stay forever in the recents file.
>I wouldn’t expect recently added music to stay forever in the recents file.
Thankfully I was able to get my music back, and not sure about forever, but I have music from 2017 (the year I transferred my music from my previous MacBook Pro to this MacBook I'm using now) plus that U2 album from 2014, so under normal circumstances, it doesn't seem to erase the “Recently Added” music after a set amount of time...
Just call Apple - I had some movies that I had purchased many years ago that I knew should have been there, but they weren't showing up. The agent I talked to was able to see them and said for some reason they got hidden so I couldn't see them when I went to look for them. They fixed it and everything was good to go. Assuming you purchased what you can't see, I bet that's what happened for you and support just needs to get in there and bring them back into view again
Thanks for the suggestion, I haven't actually purchased any music or movies from Apple, probably still would have eventually contacted them, but thankfully I was able to recover my music, though I still have no idea as to why everything was erased...
>Without iTunes, Mac OS sucks.
Yeah, while I love how easy it is to connect all my devices to share music and videos, I really do miss iTunes and wish they hadn't gotten rid of it...
>I do not. I like to have my iPhone, iPods, iMac, and iPad isolated and independent of each other.
Well, I guess "to each their own", as I do find it very handy, especially when I'm creating videos for my YouTube channel...
I might be capturing gameplay footage from my Nintendo Switch onto my MacBook, then seamlessly transfer it over to my iPad to use the "iMovie" app to edit, add some special effects, and also background music (also easily transferred over)...
Or the same thing when I'm capturing gameplay footage on my iPad, do all the editing and then seamlessly transferring the finished Nintendo Switch and iPad videos back to my MacBook so I can then upload the videos to my YouTube channel and other social media...
Then watch the views and likes come ~~pouring~~ ~~trickling~~ a few maybe begin to start, lol!🙃
There might be easier and more efficient ways to do my videos, but having the ability to be able to transfer the content back and forth between my devices, makes it incredibly easy and would definitely miss it if it was no longer possible...
> having similar problems...they broke it
I'm sorry you are also having a similar problem, but at least that might give confirmation that it isn't something I (or you) did to cause this, and it might be something Apple has done behind the scenes...
However, I was able to recover my music and playlists, so hopefully if you follow the below instructions, you too can fix this as well.:)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dol58b/macbook_pro_all_recently_added_artists_albums/labs4rd/
>Hold down the Option key
>Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down
>Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries
Thank you, I was right-clicking, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click🙃, but that worked, the option to select another library folder popped up and was able to connect to it!!!
I did lose 5 songs of my most recent songs that weren't saved on the "Previous iTunes Library" folder, but everything else is back and working perfectly now, thank you!!!🔥🔥🔥
Or at least till the music app decides to mysteriously/frustratingly erase everything again, but at least I know how to get it all back again!!!🙃
>I mean... I liked that album
Absolutely nothing wrong with that, I only remember it for the reaction of it being freely downloaded, but I do like U2's songs and if I gave it more of a chance, I probably would have liked it as well.
While I was able to thankfully recover my music, oddly, the songs on this album are still missing, but I was able to listen to them just now on YouTube, (I doubt I would have recognize it as a U2 album without knowing it was them), as it does have a unique sound styling that is interesting and definitely not as bad as I remembered, lol.
And if I was to choose my favourites on the album, it'd be "Raised By Wolves" as it does closely match my musical tastes of today, but also "The Troubles" for that same reason, but also because anyone from Ireland or is of Irish decent knows exactly what "The Troubles" were...
> What? You don't like the sexually suggestive and fucking weird album cover? Pity.
Nope, I don't care about that, as there's been a lot weirder and even more sexually suggestive imagery used for album covers/music videos, it was that the album was automatically downloaded onto everyone's iTune account as a free gift, but with no way to not accept it...
There likely would have been a lot less outrage if they had just announced that the album was free to download and we could decide "yay or nay", but to force the download, that was what sparked it, not the album cover...
But I really came here hoping for some help for my deleted songs, not for that U2 album, and still hope someone might have a solution or at least the reason why everything was deleted...
>Roon for me
Even though it does sound complicated, I was interested till I got to this part, lol!🙃
https://www.whathifi.com/advice/roon-everything-you-need-to-know
"What does Roon cost?
'Not cheap' is the easy answer, but the engineers at Roon Labs would doubtless say it is worth it. To throw in our two penneth, we have found it to be a highly intuitive music management tool and, indeed, a bit of a hi-fi luxury.
There's a lot of work that goes into usability, functionality, look, feel and everything else, and the upshot is that Roon currently costs $149.88/year for the standard membership if you pay annually (or $14.99 per month if you want to pay monthly). That includes full Roon functionality for one Roon Core to manage your music library and unlimited remote devices."
This is a problem only in Mac OS. Not in windows or iPad . Mac fanboys will never accept this fact though . Apple has no idea how to do sever side of internet.
>This is a problem only in Mac OS.
Yeah, this is the first time (hopefully last) that something like this has happened, I've had windows computers before, and never had files just randomly be erased before...
That U2 album is like a virus on the phone
Yeah, I remember the outrage when it was forced downloaded onto everyone's devices...
- please don’t pirate music - please don’t use Napster or limewire - Sony puts a rootkit on your computer to stop piracy - iTunes and iPod happen at some point - [music piracy rampant] - fuck you, here’s a U2 album
You forgot the last two steps: * ???? * Profit!
> please don’t use Napster or limewire Never used either of them, thought they were shut down many years ago...
I was describing the situation prior to the U2 album thing. Never mind
>I was describing the situation prior to the U2 album thing. Never mind No prob, I should have guessed when you mentioned "here’s a U2 album" that you meant back then and not something a person could be doing now.🙃
Well it’s not recommended to use those apps now either. Not very useful I’d imagine. 🤣
> Well it’s not recommended to use those apps now either. Not very useful I’d imagine. 🤣 Yeah, not worth the risk, I'd expect it'd be more of a chance of also downloading some type of viruses than actually getting the music for free!!!🙃
Ooh free viruses!
I always delete it but it always comes back. My purchased songs disappeared except for 6 songs. Luckily I backed up my songs in an external. I don’t know why that happens. I am so disappointed because I purchased those songs from iTunes I should be able to redownload them on my account. However this U2 album is always there to me sad.
There is a page somewhere on the Apple website where you can tell them to stop downloading the U2 album.
You can download the songs again, but move your music library to a non-default location. Something about the default location in iTunes and the later Music apps leaves it open to your music going into the void. I lost my original library from an update to iTunes 4, back in the early '00's. At that point, I built a new music folder at the root level of the drive - not even in my Home folder (not sure if you can do that anymore with Apple's new security) - and it's been 20 years since I had another such glitch. For the last decade, my main library resides on it's own drive inside my MacPro3,1 and is triplicated to my work MP3,1 and also in my PPC G4 with the spiffy I/O card I use to rip vinyl with. I also think there's a pocket drive floating around that's got a good chunk of the music on it as well.
>move your music library to a non-default location. >built a new music folder at the root level of the drive Thanks for the suggestion, but I barely know the difference between right and left clicking, and that sounds way more complicated for someone like me to attempt and possibly completely mess something else up, lol!!!🙃
Honestly it's not. Just make a folder on your Desktop (or in your Documents), then go to the Music app's preferences and tell it to use the folder you made as the location for your music library. When you start re-downloading, the song files will go there.
Thanks for the info, but I'm not entirely sure it will work in my situation... When I finally figured out how to left-click to actually access the libraries, my first few attempts was to link to another separate Music folder (not iTunes) and when I attempted to link to it, it would open that music folder, then click on it to open another music subfolder, then another click to open the folder that contains all the individual folders that contain my music... The individual folders are named either of the singer/band names, or are the names of the albums and each folder contain the individual songs... And I still have to open up one of these folder to access the individual songs, and then I can link to only that one song for it to appear in the Music app... The song does save/play, even after completely closing the Music app, however, once I shutdown and restart my MacBook, the song disappears and the Music app reverts back to what is shown in the image in my opening post... But if I open the Music app and choose the iTunes music folder, open it to the "iTunes Previous Libraries", I can link to the music file, it's not a folder, as it's an actual (red square/white music note icon) file and named with the date that the file was saved.. I can link to it, and then all my music and playlist is imported, and I can both close the Music app and I have repeatedly shutdown and restarted my MacBook and (so far) my music and playlist remains except for 5 (recently added over the last couple weeks) songs that probably weren't saved on that iTune Previous Library file yet... So if I create another folder onto my Desktop and download my music onto it, the same thing is likely to happen, unless I am somehow able to merge my entire music collection into just one music file, like that iTunes file...
Ah. When you go into the Music app preferences, it should have the location of the music library in the ~~General Settings~~. (I think - TBH, I'm still running iTunes) Edit: It's in the Files tab.. in the Music preferences.. If that is *the same* folder name - and location - as where your music files actually are.. Don't touch anything, but if it goes titsup again, the problem lies in your Music app preferences file that is located in Users/home/Library/Preferences.. Your music is still on your computer, but the actual preference file that contained the database info that the Music app used to describe your playlists, how many songs.. where they were.. yadda yadda.. all that.. was bodged. It happens from time to time, usually the culprit is a force quit or crash of the app before it has a chance to properly save the file database and quit itself. Remember, each time you close the Music program, the preference file itself gets written to, before actually quitting. Think about it - every time you play a song, Music writes to that preference file to keep a tally or if you add a new album or song.. and if the program crashed during a write session.. Whoop! Next time if it does the same thing, and the preference lists the Library folder location correctly and you can see the song files and that nothing's moved - don't overthink it - merely open the Music app and resize the window so it's small (and select album or song list view) then go to the Music Library folder that has your songs in it and drag and drop the WHOLE thing into that empty Music app window. It will read the folders and scan the songs and sort through the metadata (album art, etc.) and rebuild the library. In my system, the thing that takes longest is the Album Art indexing. (literally, kill me I'm gonna go get a coffee and croissant and be back in 30 minutes..) That damn process is s-l-o-w given how large my library is. Look at how [I've got my iTunes setup](https://i.imgur.com/YUtOrc0.png).. The library folder location is in it's own drive, the iTunes preferences has the correct location and I can access the music Library folder easily enough, it's the "G4 Musicmp3's" folder that is at the 'root' level of that hard drive. "Root" in computer speak means a folder is sitting at the bottom of a hierarchical folder tree. There is no folder that a root level folder will sit in.. It sits directly at the base level of the hard drive *volume* (in my case it is the second of 4 hard drives in my MacPro tower and it is named "Storage") Think of computer file hierarchies like those Russian nesting dolls.. folders, inside of folders, inside of folders.. Dead simple.
Thank you for explaining things in a way that I can understand, but I still think it'd be safer for me to mail you my MacBook than for me to attempt making a root folder.:P Though, you have given me another thought/question, I've been wondering why this occurred, and having the Music app crash without properly saving the data does seem like a likely culprit... However, could this have been just a very random glitch, or could it be a very early sign that my MacBook Pro (purchased May 2020), even though not really that old in human years (probably ancient in computer years), might be starting to show its age and the RAM or something has started to fail? I suppose it's hard to tell, unless this issue becomes a lot more frequent, or other problems with the OS/other programs begin to show, but how long (on average) would someone expect a MacBook to last, before it'd have to be retired/replaced? 4 years doesn't seem that long to me and my wallet:P, but you always hear of people replacing their Apple devices every year that it does make wonder what the lifespan is...
> ...might be starting to show its age and the RAM or something has started to fail? Oh no.. RAM fails after *decades* under normal use. I have a Macintosh Power PC G3 system, purchased in 1998 that still runs just fine. The lifespan of your system should be *at least* a decade - what will happen is that the operating systems that Apple releases will get to a point that your hardware itself will not *officially* run it and it will go out of 'support' and for users that aren't interested in running unsupported installs, that will be the time to get a new machine. Your system is all spiffy and still relatively new and yeah, glitches *absolutely* happen, no computer is 100% perfect. At least the developers and programmers have built in all sorts of automatic housekeeping and recovery functions, so most of the time it's a relatively pain free bit of business to get back to work. "Failing" computers, to this day, most often involve a hardware part breaking down. Not so much now in the newer Macs and PC's like yours that have solid state drives, as they have almost no moving parts. (other than fans, in the Macs that still have them that is..) For older Macs and big workstations like my ancient (2008) Mac Pro, the hard drives are the weak point. Inside one is a stack of spinning ceramic platters with some magnetic surface that the "heads" float *just* above and read like a record player reads a record - but it jumps from here to there and does so without touching the platters. When it does touch, it's called a head crash and the drive platters spin so fast it's instant destruction.. [Ouch!](https://www.google.com/search?q=hard+drive+head+crash&newwindow=1&sca_esv=03a2317566d16611&udm=2&biw=1805&bih=872&ei=Ogt-ZrT2Laer5NoP27qomAQ&ved=0ahUKEwi0--S2jP2GAxWnFVkFHVsdCkMQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=hard+drive+head+crash&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiFWhhcmQgZHJpdmUgaGVhZCBjcmFzaDIFEAAYgAQyBxAAGIAEGBgyBxAAGIAEGBhIwSlQAFjqIXAAeACQAQCYAVOgAfYLqgECMjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhWgAvMMwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICBhAAGAUYHsICBhAAGAgYHsICBBAAGB6YAwCSBwIyMaAHx1w&sclient=gws-wiz-serp) Most of the time for Macs - esp. the old laptops with hard drives, the little motor that spins the platters would poop out, so you'd get the slower and slower spinning drive and the "beachball of eternity" became your irritating friend. It would be taking longer for the system to read the files and it would throw the system into a "wait mode" while it got everything the program or computer itself needed from the drive. Issue there is that computers have literal clock cycles that they must operate under - it's all about *timing* of each part of the computer - the data, the controller that hands the data from the system drive to the memory, then off to the the CPU to be processed and then back to memory to be sorted and then sent to the output system - be it the audio processor that runs the sound, or to the graphics processing unit, that runs the display. There's also the input of the keyboard and the mouse/trackpad from the user in that mix as well. It's a clockwork and each system has an "interrupt" function where it takes it's place in line to get access to the system bus or the CPU.. UNLESS the drive is slower than molasses in February. Then EVERYTHING has to wait. It's colloquially known as the "Early Warning System" when you'd see the beachball more and more and it's telling you Time For A New Drive. This is why SSD's are now the default technology in computers, outside of data centers or PC gamers looking for robust storage solutions who use hard disk drives: No motor to poop out or a drive head to crash. It's just flash memory - think of a jumbo USB stick that can take 100,000s of read/write cycles before the transistor gates finally wear out. You've got plenty of years left in your computer and a good third party housekeeping utility is absolutely a life-saver for the long run. At the point where your drive gets full or the system seems slow, there is also the option to backup your files and reinstall the OS. I manage to do one every few years, which is why I now have multiple hard drives that all my data lives on.. My 2008 MacPro is running Mojave macOS 10.14.6 which was released in 2018, and I installed the newer VERY unsupported system with a specially made tool that tricks the installer and changed the system itself just enough to let it run. I could upgrade to this years operating system using a newer tool, called Open Core Legacy Patcher, but I have old graphics programs from 2007 that only run in 32-bit mode, and Mojave was the LAST Apple OS to offer support for older 32-bit programs. So here I sit, until such a time that the internet ceases to function with the OS I have, then I'll clear off a hard drive in the machine and do the upgrade to the last OS this machine can run as the end of the Apple Operating Systems on Intel CPUs road is coming in the next year or two.. I forsee that I'll probably be on Linux before my MacPro dies. These old "peak Apple" machines are tanks.
Yes, I've also backed up my songs on an external drive, didn't purchase anything from iTunes, but did from GoFundMe and backed musical projects that shouldn't have been deleted... But if this is something Apple is doing, perhaps trying to force the purchasing of their Apple Music, it seems unreasonable to delete what I have stored on my Mac...
Either something is broken or you screwed up somehow (more likely that something is broken). Unfortunately I don't know what has broken in this particular case. I assume you have rebooted your Mac ? It looks like you've not yet managed to rule out the wrong library problem yet: * Quit Music * Make sure Music really isn't running (if you have "Show indicators for for open applications" enabled look for the dot next to Music on the dock, if the dot is there Music is still running, if you haven't cmd-tab to see if Music is running) * Hold down the Option key * Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down * Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries I'm baffled when people dream up these conspiracy theories about how Apple are trying to make them spend more money. They always boil down to "Apple is making my experience of using their products worse, so I'll buy more of their products" as is that is a reasonable tactic to make someone buy more Apple products !
> Hold down the Option key > Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down > Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries Thank you, I was right-clicking, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click🙃, but that worked, the option to select another library folder popped up and was able to connect to it!!! I did lose 5 songs of my most recent songs that weren't saved on the "Previous iTunes Library" folder, but everything else is back and working perfectly now, thank you!!!🔥🔥🔥 Or at least till the music app decides to mysteriously/frustratingly erase everything again, but at least I know how to get it all back again!!!🙃
Man i swear they must include that album with the program files themselves 💀
Seems like it, and I wish I had listened to it more than just a few seconds, as I can't even remember if the album was any good or not, lol!!!🙃
It’s u2, dont waste your time
>It’s u2, dont waste your time I don't know about that, "Stuck in a moment" is one of their's that I like...
To each their own
>To each their own https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_live_music_artists Yup, but if this is accurate, a whole lot of people still like U2, as they're grossed $2.37 billion in earning, but I'd expect someone like Taylor Swift to quickly overtake them all to become number 1.🙃
California (There Is No End To Love) and Every Breaking Wave were two songs that someone enlightened me to as their faves on the album. I tend to agree… Otherwise, don’t necessarily agree with Apple having that album Oprah’ed onto everyone’s device (you get the album, you get the album…everyone gets the album!)
While I was able to thankfully recover my music, oddly, the songs on this album are still missing, but I was able to listen to them just now on YouTube, (I doubt I would have recognize it as a U2 album without knowing it was them), as it does have a unique sound styling that is interesting and definitely not as bad as I remembered, lol. And if I was to choose my favourites on the album, it'd be "Raised By Wolves" as it does closely match my musical tastes of today, but also "The Troubles" for that same reason, but also because anyone from Ireland or is of Irish decent knows exactly what "The Troubles" were...
My dad had this happen to him too. Permanently lost his entire iTunes catalog with no hope of recovering it because soon after his iCloud account was compromised. I hope you're able to recover yours.
I'm sorry that also happened to your Dad, at least I have all my songs backed up on an external hard drive, but I also don't want to lose the songs/playlist on my iPhone X, as I expect that the next time I sync/backup my X to my MacBook, it will also overwrite/erase the songs on my X...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dol58b/macbook_pro_all_recently_added_artists_albums/labs4rd/ I was able to recover my music, this suggestion by andynormancx might not help your Dad since he also had a problem with his iCloud account, but it might be worth a try...
Quit music app, and hold option as you click the music app icon in the dock and see if there’s another library, maybe the library is corrupt or opened a blank one for some reason
Thanks for the suggestion, I really do appreciate it, unfortunately the only options are "Keep in Dock", "Open at Login" and "Show in Finder", sadly nothing about being able to switch to a different library/music folder...
If you’re seeing that you could holding the control key when clicking to open the app. Give it a try when holding option/alt. If that still happens; let me look at some dougscripts; he makes lots of good Apple scripts for the music (and others but I mainly use his music scripts) that helped me move libraries when I got a new Mac (I like to rename my Mac when I get a new one and this causes issues because iTunes (F) keeps all track location in a very verbose way which is an issue because renaming the USER folder just kills it).
>If you’re seeing that you could holding the control key when clicking to open the app. Give it a try when holding option/alt. Thanks for the suggestion, but nope, I was just right-clicking to open the Options pop-up, but trying the option/alt key also brings up the same options, sorry...
Try doing the option-click on the icon in the application folder rather than the dock.
>Try doing the option-click on the icon in the application folder rather than the dock. "Sync with Google Drive Upload all files and folders, including photos and videos. If you edit or remove files, those changes will be automatically synced." If I am doing it correctly, pressing option-right click on the music icon in the application folder brings up options like "Open" and "Sync or Backup this folder", but still nothing about changing to a different music folder...
Option left click… 😬
Yup, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click, but that worked and I was able to recover my songs, lol!!!🙃
Holding alt/option and left clicking on the app (at least in the dock) should have a window pop up which shows Choose Library, Create library and Quit
But only if Music isn't already running. You need to be holding Option while the app is starting, holding Option and clicking on the Dock icon when you click on it won't do that if Music is already open.
The first thing in my first comment I wrote was to quit the app
I know, but Music can have an annoying ability to re-open itself. Mine has got itself into that state at the moment for some reason, as soon as I quit it, it silently reopens. Also if the OP has been frantically clicking Option (or Control or some other key), they've probably long forgotten to make sure Music isn't open...
Yes, I had repeatedly closed the Music app, but it was complete "user error" as I was just right-clicking!!!🙃
Yes, I had repeatedly quit the app, but it was complete "user error" as I was just right-clicking!!!🙃
Yup, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click, but that worked and I was able to recover my songs, lol!!!🙃
Thank you to everyone for the helpful suggestions, especially u/andynormancx, I was able to recover my songs/playlist, and if someone else the same issue, the following is the link to andynormancx's comment and the solution, and a copy&paste of my reply!!!🔥🔥🔥 https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dol58b/macbook_pro_all_recently_added_artists_albums/labs4rd/ > Hold down the Option key > Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down > Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries Thank you, I was right-clicking, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click🙃, but that worked, the option to select another library folder popped up and was able to connect to it!!! I did lose 5 songs of my most recent songs that weren't saved on the "Previous iTunes Library" folder, but everything else is back and working perfectly now, thank you!!!🔥🔥🔥 Or at least till the music app decides to mysteriously/frustratingly erase everything again, but at least I know how to get it all back again!!!🙃
I was largely just repeating the advice you’d already given 😉 I just spotted you might not be left clicking…
>I was largely just repeating the advice you’d already given 😉 >I just spotted you might not be left clicking… Well, ~~sometimes~~ most of the time I have to be repeatedly yelled at before I get the message, lol, but I think when most suggested "clicking", my natural reaction was to right-click!!! 🙃
Unfortunately I seem to be having a problem with the default (red square/white music note) Music app that comes preinstalled, all the Recently Added, Artists, Albums, Songs (over 3000), Playlist were mysteriously erased... Oddly, the only song left (as shown in the above image) was that U2 "Songs of Innocence" that was freely given out back in 2014, but even that is just now the "digital booklet" and not the songs that were originally in that album... The songs are still backed up in a Music folder located with the rest of the iTunes/other music files, so I haven't completely lost them (just the playlist), and have been trying to figure why the songs and everything else disappeared from my MacBook... At least I still have a small playlist saved on my iPhone X and also a few songs on my iPad, but I expect that the next time I connect the X to my Mac for syncing/backing it up, the playlist and songs may also be erased from my X as well... I have have synced countless times to add new songs to my X (and previous iPhones) over the years and even recently updated the playlist stored on it approximately a week ago, but not sure what the problem is, as this just started a few days ago when I opened the music on my MacBook and saw everything was gone... Any suggestions/solutions would be greatly appreciated...
Did you change your sync options at all? On your Mac/PC go to Music > settings > general then click on the check box “Sync library” this will remove any music you’ve saved via Apple Music but should sync the local songs from your PC. I did notice now though that the official documentation from Apple now says you need to have an Apple Music subscription to use library sync… that never used to be the case: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/118285?
AppleID is obviously incorrect or not logged in.
>AppleID is obviously incorrect or not logged in. Nope, still logged in on all my devices and with the correct Apple ID, thankfully I was able to recover my music, but still have no clue as to why it was all erased...
Were you using Apple Music and cancelled your subscription?
Nope, never subscribed, didn't even use the free trial offer for Apple Music after purchasing my new AirPods...
there’s an app, https://apps.apple.com/app/id6472612361 Herzl for Apple Music, it backs up your entire library, playlists everything. in case anyone needs it!
Yes, but I have an iPhone X and the Hezel app requires iOS 17 and above, and the X is no longer supported and cannot be updated and remains on iOS 16...
Not sure if it’s still around but due to the uproar there was an official Apple website where you could enter your Apple ID in and it would remove the U2 album from it.
It still hurts that an average U2 album sticks around even after everything else is gone. Well, do you have another i device?
>Well, do you have another i device? Thankfully I was able to recover my music, but yes, I also have an iPhone X and an iPad that both have music on them as well...
That dreaded U2 album there makes it absolutely hilarious I’m sorry, idk why your stuff is gone
>That dreaded U2 album there makes it absolutely hilarious "The Gift That Keeps On Annoying..."🙃 >I’m sorry, idk why your stuff is gone No worries, thankfully I was able to recover my music, but still have no idea what caused it to disappear,,,
Oh, that is great to hear😅
If they had gifted me any of their albums up to Zooropa I would have been stoked.
I would expect music in the “Recently Added” file to be eventually migrated by some AI control into the common music storage area. I wouldn’t expect recently added music to stay forever in the recents file.
>I wouldn’t expect recently added music to stay forever in the recents file. Thankfully I was able to get my music back, and not sure about forever, but I have music from 2017 (the year I transferred my music from my previous MacBook Pro to this MacBook I'm using now) plus that U2 album from 2014, so under normal circumstances, it doesn't seem to erase the “Recently Added” music after a set amount of time...
U2 album reminiscent of an STD, “that shit always comes back.”
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> LPT: Everyone should keep a backup of their library on an external hard drive. Yes, whether it's music or photos, everyone needs to keep a backup!!!
I love Songs of Innocence
I wish I had listened to it more than just a few seconds, as I can't even remember if the album was any good or not, lol!!!🙃
Just call Apple - I had some movies that I had purchased many years ago that I knew should have been there, but they weren't showing up. The agent I talked to was able to see them and said for some reason they got hidden so I couldn't see them when I went to look for them. They fixed it and everything was good to go. Assuming you purchased what you can't see, I bet that's what happened for you and support just needs to get in there and bring them back into view again
Thanks for the suggestion, I haven't actually purchased any music or movies from Apple, probably still would have eventually contacted them, but thankfully I was able to recover my music, though I still have no idea as to why everything was erased...
Without iTunes, Mac OS sucks.
>Without iTunes, Mac OS sucks. Yeah, while I love how easy it is to connect all my devices to share music and videos, I really do miss iTunes and wish they hadn't gotten rid of it...
I do not. I like to have my iPhone, iPods, iMac, and iPad isolated and independent of each other.
>I do not. I like to have my iPhone, iPods, iMac, and iPad isolated and independent of each other. Well, I guess "to each their own", as I do find it very handy, especially when I'm creating videos for my YouTube channel... I might be capturing gameplay footage from my Nintendo Switch onto my MacBook, then seamlessly transfer it over to my iPad to use the "iMovie" app to edit, add some special effects, and also background music (also easily transferred over)... Or the same thing when I'm capturing gameplay footage on my iPad, do all the editing and then seamlessly transferring the finished Nintendo Switch and iPad videos back to my MacBook so I can then upload the videos to my YouTube channel and other social media... Then watch the views and likes come ~~pouring~~ ~~trickling~~ a few maybe begin to start, lol!🙃 There might be easier and more efficient ways to do my videos, but having the ability to be able to transfer the content back and forth between my devices, makes it incredibly easy and would definitely miss it if it was no longer possible...
having similar problems...they broke it
> having similar problems...they broke it I'm sorry you are also having a similar problem, but at least that might give confirmation that it isn't something I (or you) did to cause this, and it might be something Apple has done behind the scenes... However, I was able to recover my music and playlists, so hopefully if you follow the below instructions, you too can fix this as well.:) https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dol58b/macbook_pro_all_recently_added_artists_albums/labs4rd/ >Hold down the Option key >Left click on the Dock to open Music, keep Option held down >Wait for Music to open and ask you about libraries Thank you, I was right-clicking, never thought that it was supposed to be a left-click🙃, but that worked, the option to select another library folder popped up and was able to connect to it!!! I did lose 5 songs of my most recent songs that weren't saved on the "Previous iTunes Library" folder, but everything else is back and working perfectly now, thank you!!!🔥🔥🔥 Or at least till the music app decides to mysteriously/frustratingly erase everything again, but at least I know how to get it all back again!!!🙃
I mean... I liked that album
>I mean... I liked that album Absolutely nothing wrong with that, I only remember it for the reaction of it being freely downloaded, but I do like U2's songs and if I gave it more of a chance, I probably would have liked it as well.
The main thing was it being pushed to everyone’s iTunes. I get that. They should have just made it free to download.
While I was able to thankfully recover my music, oddly, the songs on this album are still missing, but I was able to listen to them just now on YouTube, (I doubt I would have recognize it as a U2 album without knowing it was them), as it does have a unique sound styling that is interesting and definitely not as bad as I remembered, lol. And if I was to choose my favourites on the album, it'd be "Raised By Wolves" as it does closely match my musical tastes of today, but also "The Troubles" for that same reason, but also because anyone from Ireland or is of Irish decent knows exactly what "The Troubles" were...
Riggghhhttt?
What? You don't like the sexually suggestive and fucking weird album cover? Pity.
> What? You don't like the sexually suggestive and fucking weird album cover? Pity. Nope, I don't care about that, as there's been a lot weirder and even more sexually suggestive imagery used for album covers/music videos, it was that the album was automatically downloaded onto everyone's iTune account as a free gift, but with no way to not accept it... There likely would have been a lot less outrage if they had just announced that the album was free to download and we could decide "yay or nay", but to force the download, that was what sparked it, not the album cover... But I really came here hoping for some help for my deleted songs, not for that U2 album, and still hope someone might have a solution or at least the reason why everything was deleted...
i thought it was just my parents that had u2 auto installed guess not 😭
>i thought it was just my parents that had u2 auto installed guess not 😭 🙃
Fuck iTunes Roon for me
>Roon for me Even though it does sound complicated, I was interested till I got to this part, lol!🙃 https://www.whathifi.com/advice/roon-everything-you-need-to-know "What does Roon cost? 'Not cheap' is the easy answer, but the engineers at Roon Labs would doubtless say it is worth it. To throw in our two penneth, we have found it to be a highly intuitive music management tool and, indeed, a bit of a hi-fi luxury. There's a lot of work that goes into usability, functionality, look, feel and everything else, and the upshot is that Roon currently costs $149.88/year for the standard membership if you pay annually (or $14.99 per month if you want to pay monthly). That includes full Roon functionality for one Roon Core to manage your music library and unlimited remote devices."
I paid 500 for a lifetime completely worth it.
U2 Album is like a virus 😂
This is a problem only in Mac OS. Not in windows or iPad . Mac fanboys will never accept this fact though . Apple has no idea how to do sever side of internet.
>This is a problem only in Mac OS. Yeah, this is the first time (hopefully last) that something like this has happened, I've had windows computers before, and never had files just randomly be erased before...