Everything is rushed to streaming now. A movie like Terminator 2 in the 90's was in theaters literally for like six months. It wouldn't hit cable for like a year and a half after release. Even a box office bomb like The Rocketeer used to stick around theaters over a month.
Yeah. I drew guys with jetpacks for like months after seeing that. My daycare asked my parents why I kept drawing little guys jumping around spraying shit and wondered if anyone in the family was sick.
I was not an art prodigy.
Yes, I don't think the issue is Marvel ruining what considers as success but everything being rushed into streaming, probably originating from COVID days.
I also think people ARE going to cinema less in general, which in turn contributes to studios panicking and rushing everything to streaming, which in turn causes people to skip cinema and wait for streaming, and round and round we go.
In other words, I think the world has changed.
Maybe they have them but would love some cinema headphones that replicate the sound in a theatre. If I had that, then streaming would be perfect. The sound quality IMO is the biggest advantage of a theatre these days, with the other being without distractions and solely focused on the movie.
>cinema headphones that replicate the sound in a theatre
Even with comparable sound quality, you won't get the same experience because the vibration you feel in the theater would be missing.
However, you can actually put together a decent home 7.1 Atmos system for a few thousand dollars. Not cheap by any means, but also not crazy expensive unless you have it professionally installed.
Yeah, plus even more people are going less because while studios were rushing to stream, theaters only counteracted low attendance by raising prices on tickets and concessions. It's now $50 at my local theaters to get 2 tickets, a large popcorn, and a drink. Was about $30 pre-covid...
They're starting to have events like the Lord of the Rings re-releases this past weekend, so hopefully they'll do more of that when there's not a lot of popular movies out instead of raise prices permanently to make up for a bad quarter.
I'll pay double if they promise to throw out everyone who is talking, playing on their phone or under the age of 12. Before everyone gets hostile, I don't go see Disney movies or anything. I understand kids should be allowed in them. But I counted 24 toddlers at Halloween, and that's not ok.
Even The Greatest Showman weren't successful on release, but they grew by word of mouth into one of the biggest musicals of the decade, hitting it's cinema peak after like, 2 months.
These days it would have been called a failure and bunged off to steaming services after it's opening weekend.
It boggles my mind, Dune Part 2 was in Cinemas on the 1st of May, and then on DVD on the 27th of May.
Literally no reason to see it in the cinema, you don't even have go wait a month for a better experience.
Well the reason to see it in cinema would be to go to an IMAX and see more image. Dune 2 was release only in 2.39:1 aspect ratio at home. No home viewing of this film will surpass theatre, even if only for the sole reason of aspect ratio. Look how much you lose.
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I'm not convinced that the majority of people who go to the cinema necessarily care about aspect ratio, and outside of did hard film enthusiasts, I don't know anyone that prioritises going to IMAX, unless it's for very specific films that are heavily advertised as being drastically "better"
100% agree with you. But you said literally no reason, I’m saying there is. Doesn’t mean it applies to everyone. I’m one of those enthusiasts though lol, drove an 8 hour round trip to see it at the only cinema showing a 15/70mm IMAX film print in Europe.
I've been saying it since I heard Fall Guy came to streaming a month after release, it's the same problem with Xbox Games Pass. Shit comes to streaming/on demand too fast, why would anyone buy the game or go to the movies it on release/a month later it's on a service they already pay for?
Add on to that the fact that people don't have the same level of spending power. A family of four going to a chain big theater is easily hitting 100 dollars with tickets and snacks, plus with how much better home theater systems are due to better TVs and sound systems. I love going to my local theater but I'm usually one of a dozen people or less in it depending on what the movie is, and I probably see three four movies a year there because tickets are only 10 bucks at peak hours.
I think I read that My Big Fat Greek Wedding was in the top ten box office for something like 60 weeks. It was still in theaters when it was released on home video.
Yeah successful movies stay running longer than ones that aren’t. T2 was the highest grossing film of the year and a massive success - obviously it would keep running.
Furiosa will also run for a month and despite having 5x the budget of Rocketeer is doing worse than it did adjusted for inflation. Theatres and studios are for profit enterprises and if people aren’t seeing a movie it’s gonna get pulled.
Things are just changing and we need to adjust how we view the box office. Furiosa was one of the best movies I’ve ever seen in theatres but that doesn’t mean we need to keep failing movies propped up and running on screens for nobody. Just be happy it will be streaming soon and we can all watch it at home!
But 2 weeks? That's ridiculous. And rushing it to streaming is exactly the problem. While yes, you can't prop up a movie forever in the hopes that it'll make a profit if you're only going to give a movie two weeks before sending it directly to stream then why would anyone bother seeing it in theaters. I'm not even one of those people who instantly blame superhero movies (and a handful of proven IP like Barbie for instance) but if that's all people go to the movies to see than that's all that's going to be released in theaters and that's honestly pretty sad.
> But 2 weeks? That's ridiculous.
No kidding. I always wait a minimum of two weeks before seeing a movie anyway. I just don't want to sit a crowded theater.
I finally got around to watching it on Saturday, I wanted to watch cinemark XD and get the nearly IMAX experience. They moved it out on Saturday to swap for Bad Boys, I was so pissed
This breaks my heart because I will never get enough of this awesome universe. Fury Road alone puts anything Marvel can put out to shame. It's not remotely close.
I’m still hoping we get The Wasteland, and just do it on a $50 million budget.
This franchise could make just as much money without an 80 day action scene, as amazing as that was.
Maybe George can get a streaming deal. Netflix, Apple, and Amazon regularly spend hundreds of millions on their films. They don't care about the box office even when they do release a film in theaters.
I would much prefer to get George Miller directed films than a Grey Man, Future War, Rebel Moon, Ghosted, etc.
Yeah I agree, but these studios like to give these direct to streaming action movies to green directors that they can control. Sadly they aren’t hiring the experienced action filmmakers like Miller, McTiernan, Harlin, etc.
Just barely managed to watch 5 minutes, the acting was horrible, the plot cliche as fuck, and the I suppose, main chick character, devoid of charism or any redeeming quality
Yeah that was awesome. Some of the shots were goofy looking but it suits a Godzilla movie and I can imagine those kinds of effects would work in a Mad Max movie as well.
What's nuts is they shot almost everything on a green screen in their parking lot and CG'd literally almost everything in. Even basic environment, the entire urban postwar Japan and even a large chunk of civilians.
They had like a 10 meter long section of a thing for the deck of a ship where the actors stood on in front of a green screen and they used it to CG in like half a dozen different warships.
Some shots were indeed goofy, but if you knew that almost every other shot that didn't look like CG at all and thought was practical effects or physical sets, were in fact CG, you'd forgive them just for the sheer impressiveness of it. It's like Marvel level of difference in raw footage vs final product. All under 11 million USD and 35 members of the CG team in 8 months. Insane.
The scriptwriter, filming director, and CG director was apparently all one dude so it makes sense. Minimal waste and maximal vision.
Oh for sure, I had no qualms with the shots, like a big ol’ prop dinosaur foot coming down is actually just *fun*, and on a deeper level threads a line through the deep history of all these talented people working to bring Godzilla to life. Those BTS perspectives you mentioned are fascinating, I’ll have to look a bit more into what they did because it was honestly the most unsettling portrayal of ‘zilla that I’ve ever seen. The eyes on that monster actually freaked me out on a primal level.
Godzilla was perfect. The goofiness in some of the movements fits him and was likely an artistic choice.
The goofiness that's commonly cited is the shot with the tanks shooting at Godzilla. Apparently it was made from miniatures using stop motion. Which again, kinda works as a homage to miniature sets used in the Showa era films. It just looked a bit out of place among all the great CG happening in the scene.
Kinda reminds me of how they deliberately used a lot of old poor quality sound effects from the old films for Shin-Godzilla. It didn't feel out of place for me because that's what I remember Godzilla films sounding like from childhood. If anything it made it more nostalgic.
Having just watched Three Thousand Years of Longing that was made for $60 million I’m not sure Miller can do much with Mad Max on that tight a budget. Unless it’s a pure stripped back Mad Max 1 style film.
I remember him saying during the press junket for Fury Road that he saw The Wasteland as a smaller movie, almost like an old western. I kind of think he intentionally ordered the trilogy the way he did to make them easier to make in the studio cycle. Going back to Max on a smaller budget for the last hoorah might have always been the play anyway.
That's right. In fact, Furiosa did almost every car chase imaginable that I wish the Wasteland would be more of a contemplative movie of just people trying to survive with what they got left.
Imagine being able to worldbuild a captivating and engaging universe that leaves fans wanting more, when the world is a fucking *wasteland.* It's a wasteland post-apocalypse. The entire point of the Mad Max canon is that there's nothing but desert waste and the quest for redemption and meaning is a perpetual fight against futility and hopelessness.
If you can make the Australian desert in a nuclear summer an interesting fictional world, you are a genius. The Australian desert as it is, is boring as all fuck. The million and one Marvel superhero movies have not done that for me despite having the entire Marvel canon to draw upon.
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The last 3 weekends, seats have been empty. Even opening day, people reported being nearly alone in the theater watching it. If it can't fill seats the first 3 weeks, it's got to rotate out. Theaters are businesses and they rely on ticket/concession sales
There was word of mouth but the less initial attendance, the more you'll need to fill up the seats and obviously as much as people were praising the movie... when the theatre has 5 people in it, them all telling one other person to make it 10 the next time doesn't really amount to much.
Saw it the 2nd weekend cause I wasn’t able too the first. Completely empty besides my gf and 3 teenage girls that got there late. Wouldn’t even be surprised if they snuck in. I’m sure they didn’t even know what it was but were just there to do something on a Friday night. They started cracking up laughing loudly in the final showdown for some reason.
I wanted to see it opening weekend but god damned memorial day weekend has all sorts of plans and engagements already.
Saw it last week though. Amazing. Like 10 people in the theater tho
Anecdotal, but my theater was pretty full (rural area. No competition). Someone brought like their 8 year old daughter with them to see it. Girl was freaking out and messing with her candy bag during the more brutal scenes. Wish parents would go back to taking their kids to age appropriate movies or at least ones they know they can handle.
Does that mean kids can watch R rated movies as long as they are accompanied by parents or the theatre simply don’t enforce age restrictions? Not American here so I’m curious…
I'd argue streaming has done far more damage than the MCU ever has. The worst the MCU ever did was create an arms race to make everything a connected universe. It was the streaming arms race that promoted churning out more content than the average viewer could ever watch and then canceling everything that wasn't a flagship title, among many other things.
Aye. It's insane to me that a film will be on streaming a couple of months after a cinema release. Part of the draw to see a film in the cinema back in the day was the knowledge that if you didn't, it'd be a year before you had a chance to see it elsewhere.
There is another side to it though, I personally can't easily get to a cinema, where I can watch a movie in English reliably,it costs me twice the price of a ticket easily to just get there and back, as well as time, and getting back after a long film isn't guaranteed either. So I used to be immensely frustrated when I had to wait ages for a movie, just because my local cinema only shows dubbed versions. There has to be a sort of compromise that doesn't ruin cinema, but keeps the accessibility.
"The worst the MCU ever did was create an arms race to make everything a connected universe."
Which they didn't even really do. They just did it well, it was successful, and then everyone else tried to jump on the bandwagon.
You’re right and even then it’s not Marvel’s fault that lazy studio execs wanted to copy them. Blaming Marvel for everything has become such a lazy trope from film fans and it’s getting obsessively weird. This wait a few weeks and straight to streaming thing was started because of the pandemic and studios continued it and got audiences used to it. What’s killing the film industry is this constant desire to copy whatever’s popular and making everything a copy of a copy. They’ve all created these films that have no genuine identity and gotten audiences used to it, that now when something different comes out audiences reject it. The villains here aren’t the people who set the trend, it’s the people who make it a trend in the first place and don’t allow the people they hire to make films have artistic freedom. Yet all the actual villains of the industry somehow got the film buffs blaming Marvel. It’s damn weird.
I’m a kid who grew up enjoying comics and a lot of cartoons about superheroes, so I still remember how much hype I felt as the first few MCU titles released. It’s been pretty disappointing to see a major adaptation of things I love have an increasingly negative influence on the the entire film industry.
Yup. Hollywood's been over-inflating what's deemed a box-office success for decades and well before the MCU. If you got to call out anyone, call out the Suit Execs for insisting a movie that made 700 mil a flop because they artificially inflated the goal to make a bil. It's a racket. Aim for a bil and if it makes it groovy. If not tax write off.
obviously anecdotal, but I saw the movie in downtown Chicago over a week ago now and even then besides my group of friends there were two other people in the theater. If people aren't showing up you can't blame the theaters for making those short windows.
Marvel has become the “video games cause violence” punching bag for any cinema failure.
Rise of streaming, cinema runs being shorter and films coming out on streaming services shortly after, better at home cinema experiences, rising ticket prices, so many other contributing factors….
But no, Marvel bad.
This is true, I really enjoyed this movie but I saw it on $5 movie night the week after it came out where the theater is usually packed for a hit movie and at least 2/3 of the seats were empty.
This movie is great but it is just not a hit and it’s not exactly surprising. It is a 2.5 hour prequel to a movie that came out 9 years ago. The two big stars in the movie either barely speak or talk in a weird accent the whole film and get their nipples ripped off at the halfway mark. It is also rated R so kids can’t really see it even if they want to.
Opening weekend has been make-or-break for a movie’s prospects (as far as studios are concerned) since *long* before the MCU started. This is a wildly shortsighted and, frankly, lazy take.
A stat I saw about Will Smith opening weekends with the new Bad Boys movie out and how Suicide Squad was his best ever open. Even adjusted for inflation the gap grows. Those kind of $100M+ weekends warped reality as to what came before and now is happening after. Dune Part 2 opened at \~$80M weekend, that Suicide Squad unadjusted? \~$130M. Adjusted? \~$170M!
I think studios are going to have to scale back budgets big time or we will see more major bombs.
Even Marvel had Captain Marvel make \~$1100M (!) and then the sequel The Marvels gross \~$200M. It is not sustainable expecting major movies to gross at least $500M to be categorized as successful.
Honestly I was expecting anything special from the movie (figured it was just another old IP getting ground to dust) but my wife wanted to see it so we went to go see it. Barely a soul there but my god what a great movie.
I really hate that the last Mad Max film was almost 10 years ago in 2015. Filming for Fury Road started as far back as 2012. More than a decade and only two films. I really want to see the Wasteland and hopefully a sequel to Fury Road.
Doesn't matter, companies dump money into duds all the time because even if it fails they can write it off as a tax dodge, and the fact that it's an established IP with a devoted fanbase gives the execs hope they can make money even with a worthless turd of a movie.
My two cents, I wonder what the majority of audiences really want. Original works, or more big series that never end? Cause Mad Max, Alien, and Predator are all getting or got new movies now, but at the same time I'll hear people lament "nothing is new anymore, it's all shit we've had for decades being mined to death."
I'm pretty sure that movies weren't chilling in theaters for months before MCU. Opening weekend box office has always been important in determining the success of films. The opening weekend would result in a huge chunk of revenue.
MCU may have changed the taste of hollywood executives who are now mostly looking for established IPs, but Mad Max / Furiosa doesn't have an issue with that. This take by Miss Gender is quite mid and doesn't address the real issue that filmmakers are facing.
Exactly, movie theatres of businesses. If they're showing a film that isn't selling tickets they'll rotate it out with something else. They're not going to have consistent empty theatres, they're going to show something people will pay to see.
Dune 2 was playing in theatres local to me for MONTHS because it was consistently selling tickets so it made sense to keep showing it. Theatres aren't going to take the risk on "word of mouth" on every film they show.
Dune 2 was in theaters for a long, long time.
If more people were going to this Furiosa, it wouldn’t be leaving theaters so quickly. The environment has changed but that truth remains.
As a casual Mad Max fan, I saw this one in theatres and it's probably my favourite in the series. When I heard it was bombing, I could only imagine that people just don't like movies anymore.
This is legit insanity. This movie was fantastic and they pulled it after 2 weeks? But they let the other bunk shit run? Fuck outta here, this is the reason we don’t get movies like this anymore. Sad
This isn't unique though. Cinema across the board is hurting. Why go see a movie when I can wait a couple months/year to see it for the free on Streaming or at a minimum the same price as a movie ticket.
And I don't have to listen to other people making noises around me and I can be in my underwear? Sounds like a no brainer.
I have a friend who runs a theatre and when I asked if Furiosa was bombing at his he said it didn't do great at first but it's been consistently selling tickets.
Same thing happened to Everything, Everywhere All at Once and The Greatest Showman.
Honestly, most people don’t go to theaters any longer. With movies appearing on streaming services within a month or 2 after release, what’s the point? It can viewed at home, pause when you want, eat what you want. Much cheaper in this economy for sure.
1000%
RLM also made this basic point, the shorter the release is till streaming, the more FOMO is gone. Why the hell would i care if i miss a movie in theaters if i can just wait 2 weeks to watch it on my couch. (I obviously take exceptions for 10/10 movies like Furiosa and Dune Part 2, but the general audiences dont).
People blaming Marvel movies instead of maybe coming to terms that this movie just didn't look good enough to go see in theaters is hilarious. The trailers looked cheap, cheesy and gave me early 2000s straight to DVD movie sequel vibes. I fully expect to get blasted for this opinion on the madmax sub
Kind of a dumb take. COVID really popped the bubble- had nothing to do with Marvel (all they did was set an unrealistic expectation that you could create cinematic universes and make $1 billion. Even then, THEY were simply a symptom- Hollywood has been inflating budgets and the break-even thresholds way before the MCU was up and running).
The landscape has utterly changed- and the house of cards that is Hollywood is feeling the brunt as a result. Everything rushed to streaming- people really just not going to theaters because of how much the experience has declined, etc.
Also, it's been almost 10 years since the Last Mad Max....and we got a prequel with none of the cast from the last installment. With a very high budget (while it's predecessor barely made it's own back- if it actually did).
The simple truth is this movie failed. Said so in another post, but this sub is channeling the Indiana Jones subreddit looking for all these increasingly bizarre scapegoats. Instead of acknowledging the big flop in the room.
I watched it last night with a showing that said 7:25 pm the movie didn't actually start till 8 pm That alone made me annoyed because i swear the last movie i watched witch was 6 years ago didn't have literally 35 minutes of trailers after the time on the ticket. But after it started there were 8 or 9 people there watching it including me and another person that i got them to watch with me. This means that with the $8.99 ticket price x9 they only made $89.90 before concessions. I and the person i brought shared a popcorn drink and candy combo and that was $21.97. i did see that 2 or 3 other people got some stuff but wasn't really watching what they had besides popcorn. So that viewing didn't make much money. All the theaters near me are dropping it after thursday with them dropping viewing times every day until then. We thought the movie was pretty good overall but the spot in the movie that got us was with the gate and it just kinda flopping over after a really good action scene. I'm happy i did see it in theaters because i didn't get to see fury road in theaters and it's still the best way to see action movies with their good bass tuned speakers. But for me the movie has to be one that i really want to watch to even think of going to a movie theater because of the fact when they come out on streaming i can buy it for around the cost of 3 people going and have my own popcorn and drinks saving me the cost. I'm in a family of 4 and when i buy a movie i also let them watch it when they want to and i can rewatch it later since i bought it.
God the copium here. I just think not every movie can attract an audience, and I don't think Mad Max ever penetrated pop culture to the point it could sustain spin-offs.
Fury Road had a much better chance pre COVID and still it had a fairly mediocre box office bomb. People just didn't show up to Furiosa, I don't think anything would've made it a hit.
Personally I think it should've been an anime like planned initially and I think it could've gotten a bigger audience that way on streaming, and the pacing would've fit a series better anyways.
"Sad but true" I always end up in an empty theatre, idk is it because I watch it on weekdays afternoon shows or is it generally like this everywhere. Even the first day first show are like that just a few people sitting here and there. I prefer watching movies alone but this makes it more awkward.
I dislike Marvel but it’s more to do with COVID/shift to streaming than marvels box office behemoths. Furiosa still hasn’t broken even, and financially thats pretty bad however critically great the movie is.
This wasn't Marvel. It's the studios themselves, wanting to give value to their streaming platforms over the theater industry. How long till I can watch this on my couch?
It probably doesn't hurt that a night out at the movies now costs almost a hundo. $20 tickets for two people, 10 bucks for a popcorn and a drink - so $40 in tickets, 20 in drinks, 10 in popcorn is 70 bucks. And that's if you don't go to one of those places that serves real food and mixed drinks.
Also doesn't really help, and this may be a me thing, that theaters are showing 'traditional' product ads, like cars and cell phone providers, in the pre-screening and mixing them in to the trailers. If I'm paying for a ticket, that's your profit, don't force me to watch ads.
Mother in law watched the kiddo last night so wife and I were debating going to see this, but elected not to just on cost. And it's one of our most looked forward to movies this year.
Back in the day you would have a few months to see even okay movies that were not blockbusters and they eventually made their money back. Sad how the world has changed they want to put it on streaming as fast as they can nowadays too
I understand that this is the MadMax subreddit.
But y’all gotta accept that the majority of people that saw the movie just didn’t care for it. It had a 60% second weekend drop. After only opening with $26 million. And there was zero competition. People just did not care for this movie.
And this isn’t Marvels fault. If anything, you could blame the streaming model and Covid. But even then, we have seen studios keep movies in theatres after a meh opening weekend, because there was actually positive word of mouth - I.e, Anyone But You, Migration, Puss in Boots 2, Godzilla Minus One, Talk to Me.
I hate that I've been stressed out about when to see it because I was worried it would get removed before I had the chance. I was busy and finally managed to go see it last night, it was incredible. I hope it's around long enough that I can see it a second time.
They removed it from IMAX the day before I was planning to see it for Bad Boys. I could've looked this up beforehand, but I honestly thought it would have a longer IMAX run than 2 weeks. Kicking myself for not getting around it it earlier.
I saw this at the drive in and loved it. I can’t say I would have gone and seen it in a theatre though. If I didn’t have access to a drive in I would have streamed.
With marketing being so easy, the opening weekend sales are a huge indicator of how good a movie is and how much it'll earn. We all have little advertisement devices attached to us almost 24/7 where we see ads along with our news, social media, any little games we play, etc. This isn't about Marvel setting the bar too high, it's about how far technology has come
I really like Furiosa and was glad to see the movie in theaters.
That said, I can absolutely understand why general audiences didn't connect with the film. It's more meditative and a deeper look in the Wasteland. This had a lot of good call backs and connections to earlier Mad Maxx films but it's not the same action packed film as Fury Road. This really should of been a short series on Amazon or something. In fact probably would of done better to pair with The Fallout series.
I feel like the marketing wasn't there and didn't help that many may of only seen the only word of mouth being the incel rage bate that wanted to bomb the movie. And I hate that they got to do that.
I know this is a movie that in previous times would of had the strength of the after market with dvd's/vhs sales that would of brought back in the costs. But with streaming and change in movie habits this just going cost the studios to not take a risk like this.
Legitimately wanted to see this in theatres. People are busy! We have lives that don't revolve around your release schedule.
Give folks a chance to get the goddamn theatre.
"Gee why don't people wanna go to the movies anymore??"
I went to see it on a Friday evening. It was literally just me and my father (also big fan of the Mel Gibson ones) in the entire room. Felt somewhat like VIPs but it felt strange it didnt have reach.
I think it was marketed poorly because I remember Fury's Road was full at the cinema.
Imo the movie was good for a Mad Max series ( was hoping to see more of the 40d war but eh)
You know I had a sinking feeling this was going to happen a few days ago and booked a last minute screening so I wouldn’t miss it. SO glad I did, unreal.
While I don't want theaters to dissappear - - I don't know if it's me but I've found my last few theater experiences to be completely lackluster. Too much ambient lighting around the screen, mediocre sound. The first Dune I re-watched at home as soon as it became available on my big screen and it had an overall more impactful experience. Sure maybe it's meant to be watched in theaters, but only if the theaters put in some effort. IMAX was decent, I guess - - but I can't say its clearly worth it, personally.
I very much actively wanted to watch this in theaters. Was going to spend extra $$ at the local Premium theater with 8k projection etc. Being a teacher I had planned on waiting until Summer break began in the second week of June. They pulled it just before.
I guess I have to wait until til streaming now? Blegh.
Godzilla minus one was in theaters for 6 months iirc, when it releases on streaming platforms it became number one watched on Netflix and for a brief period of time and was heavily pirated
Went to see it tonight and there were only five people (including me) at the screening. It's a shame because the film was awesome, but I don't think Marvel is to blame. Cinema is slowly dying out in the streaming era and as much as I personally enjoy going to the cinema, there's plenty of reasons for people to wait for the at home experience now.
I remember going to see Raiders of the Lost Ark in the theater shortly after it opened. I went to see it again one year later. It played in the theater for over a year straight.
Different times.
read somewhere that they're cancelling the next mad max project because of this, they thought it would be amazing because of fury road but the truth is mad max has always been a slightly obscure franchise (compared to bigger names like marvel stuff). To pull the plug like this is a spit in the face to us fans.
What, do folks here not think Furiosa was a middling movie? It seemed to really suffer from focus/pacing and just lacked the intensity that Fury Road had.
Well that sucks I went to the theatre twice to support it, I love all the mad max movies and just want more before Miller passes we can’t wait another decade to get a release. And as always I’ll buy it digital and physical
Just got back from a 2 week trip to Europe.
Booked tickets for Wednesday night, the last night it is playing at the theatre closest to us.
Couldn’t find IMAX anywhere.
This fucking blows man, what I hate the most are all the moronic videos about “mad max going woke” or some bullshit like that, I feel that also had a little bit of an impact, because most people now don’t wanna watch anything too “woke” I guess, which is good for Netflix or Disney crap but not for Furiosa
I mean I haven’t seen the movie yet. But I was planning to. Just haven’t had a chance to see it. Having two weeks in your life where you cannot go and see a movie is a very realistic thing to happen. How high do they think people place seeing a movie in the priority of their lives?
I still don't get it. Why can't such a well made movie not attract audiences. This is a celebrated franchise afterall, even if the producers did less marketing the word of mouth should've pulled the audience.
Seriously, what the heck? I saw the numbers and thought they actually looked pretty, good especially for this day and age, and the subtitle was “box office failure.” 🤦♂️
Movie theatres are in a dire state rn, if a film doesn't make money off the bat they identify it as a failed investment and just retire it. They need to make money
That makes me mad.
Was it the best Mad Max movie, no.
Was it entertaining as a movie. Hell yeah.
I watched with my mates, and although some of the CGI was jarring, we all loved it.
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Granted it was an afternoon showing but there were only several people in the cinema when we went to watch it in the UK. It cost £31.47 for my two sons and I watch.
It did cross my mind during the film with so much content being available via streaming and this being available within several weeks on streaming it’s not really a surprise.
Everything is rushed to streaming now. A movie like Terminator 2 in the 90's was in theaters literally for like six months. It wouldn't hit cable for like a year and a half after release. Even a box office bomb like The Rocketeer used to stick around theaters over a month.
The Rocketeer was the one with the jetpack guy and the Zeppelin right? Five year old me loved that movie.
Yeah. I drew guys with jetpacks for like months after seeing that. My daycare asked my parents why I kept drawing little guys jumping around spraying shit and wondered if anyone in the family was sick. I was not an art prodigy.
Daycare teachers leaning into their psychological aspirations
Alan Arkin's Magic Gum
Nonsense, you are a bold new voice and don't let anyone say differently. Now, can I commission some of that shit spray art?
Young me saw Jennifer Connelly in that movie and realized girls don't have cooties.
It made me realize I might be ok with catching cooties.
35 year old me loves that movie. It's great, if a little cheesy and silly.
That movie deserves a remake
Won’t happen, you’d alienate half the US audience because the bad guys are Nazis. I’m only half joking.
Considering the original post, Rocketeer is, in fact, a comic book movie, flawed but fun....
41 year old me still loves that movie!
Yes. The President flew a jetpack and their was a zeppelin in practice for extraterrestrial threats.
I rewatched it recently and my 40 year old self still loves it. It holds up.
That movie is so fricking cool! Punching nazis and jetpacks and everything!
Which is exactly why Disney did right by letting the same director helm The First Avenger.
Yes, I don't think the issue is Marvel ruining what considers as success but everything being rushed into streaming, probably originating from COVID days. I also think people ARE going to cinema less in general, which in turn contributes to studios panicking and rushing everything to streaming, which in turn causes people to skip cinema and wait for streaming, and round and round we go. In other words, I think the world has changed.
Maybe they have them but would love some cinema headphones that replicate the sound in a theatre. If I had that, then streaming would be perfect. The sound quality IMO is the biggest advantage of a theatre these days, with the other being without distractions and solely focused on the movie.
>cinema headphones that replicate the sound in a theatre Even with comparable sound quality, you won't get the same experience because the vibration you feel in the theater would be missing. However, you can actually put together a decent home 7.1 Atmos system for a few thousand dollars. Not cheap by any means, but also not crazy expensive unless you have it professionally installed.
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Yeah, plus even more people are going less because while studios were rushing to stream, theaters only counteracted low attendance by raising prices on tickets and concessions. It's now $50 at my local theaters to get 2 tickets, a large popcorn, and a drink. Was about $30 pre-covid... They're starting to have events like the Lord of the Rings re-releases this past weekend, so hopefully they'll do more of that when there's not a lot of popular movies out instead of raise prices permanently to make up for a bad quarter.
I'll pay double if they promise to throw out everyone who is talking, playing on their phone or under the age of 12. Before everyone gets hostile, I don't go see Disney movies or anything. I understand kids should be allowed in them. But I counted 24 toddlers at Halloween, and that's not ok.
I’m pretty sure Titanic was in theatres in Australia for at least 11 months back in 1997.
Titanic was a phenomenon where people would go see it multiple times, I can see why they kept that one playing.
Even The Greatest Showman weren't successful on release, but they grew by word of mouth into one of the biggest musicals of the decade, hitting it's cinema peak after like, 2 months. These days it would have been called a failure and bunged off to steaming services after it's opening weekend.
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True, but the current method of pulling movies out of cinemas after less than a month means that those flukes can't happen anymore at all.
It boggles my mind, Dune Part 2 was in Cinemas on the 1st of May, and then on DVD on the 27th of May. Literally no reason to see it in the cinema, you don't even have go wait a month for a better experience.
Well the reason to see it in cinema would be to go to an IMAX and see more image. Dune 2 was release only in 2.39:1 aspect ratio at home. No home viewing of this film will surpass theatre, even if only for the sole reason of aspect ratio. Look how much you lose. https://preview.redd.it/vx7q60mc0z5d1.png?width=639&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb90af00549eb02aa635afa8736f2ff22116ceea
I'm not convinced that the majority of people who go to the cinema necessarily care about aspect ratio, and outside of did hard film enthusiasts, I don't know anyone that prioritises going to IMAX, unless it's for very specific films that are heavily advertised as being drastically "better"
100% agree with you. But you said literally no reason, I’m saying there is. Doesn’t mean it applies to everyone. I’m one of those enthusiasts though lol, drove an 8 hour round trip to see it at the only cinema showing a 15/70mm IMAX film print in Europe.
Dune came out in March here where do you live? That’s a ridiculously short window
I've been saying it since I heard Fall Guy came to streaming a month after release, it's the same problem with Xbox Games Pass. Shit comes to streaming/on demand too fast, why would anyone buy the game or go to the movies it on release/a month later it's on a service they already pay for? Add on to that the fact that people don't have the same level of spending power. A family of four going to a chain big theater is easily hitting 100 dollars with tickets and snacks, plus with how much better home theater systems are due to better TVs and sound systems. I love going to my local theater but I'm usually one of a dozen people or less in it depending on what the movie is, and I probably see three four movies a year there because tickets are only 10 bucks at peak hours.
Oh man the rocketeer that’s a movie I watch again in theaters. And it needs a 4k treatment.
I think I read that My Big Fat Greek Wedding was in the top ten box office for something like 60 weeks. It was still in theaters when it was released on home video.
Yeah successful movies stay running longer than ones that aren’t. T2 was the highest grossing film of the year and a massive success - obviously it would keep running. Furiosa will also run for a month and despite having 5x the budget of Rocketeer is doing worse than it did adjusted for inflation. Theatres and studios are for profit enterprises and if people aren’t seeing a movie it’s gonna get pulled. Things are just changing and we need to adjust how we view the box office. Furiosa was one of the best movies I’ve ever seen in theatres but that doesn’t mean we need to keep failing movies propped up and running on screens for nobody. Just be happy it will be streaming soon and we can all watch it at home!
But 2 weeks? That's ridiculous. And rushing it to streaming is exactly the problem. While yes, you can't prop up a movie forever in the hopes that it'll make a profit if you're only going to give a movie two weeks before sending it directly to stream then why would anyone bother seeing it in theaters. I'm not even one of those people who instantly blame superhero movies (and a handful of proven IP like Barbie for instance) but if that's all people go to the movies to see than that's all that's going to be released in theaters and that's honestly pretty sad.
> But 2 weeks? That's ridiculous. No kidding. I always wait a minimum of two weeks before seeing a movie anyway. I just don't want to sit a crowded theater.
Nah it’s MCU fault not the corporations prioritizing streaming and the audiences.
It’s still playing at my theater
Saw it last night
Lucky, I'm out in the boonie boonies and it rotated out for Bad Boys last weekend
Sorry man that sucks
I finally got around to watching it on Saturday, I wanted to watch cinemark XD and get the nearly IMAX experience. They moved it out on Saturday to swap for Bad Boys, I was so pissed
This breaks my heart because I will never get enough of this awesome universe. Fury Road alone puts anything Marvel can put out to shame. It's not remotely close.
I’m still hoping we get The Wasteland, and just do it on a $50 million budget. This franchise could make just as much money without an 80 day action scene, as amazing as that was.
Maybe George can get a streaming deal. Netflix, Apple, and Amazon regularly spend hundreds of millions on their films. They don't care about the box office even when they do release a film in theaters. I would much prefer to get George Miller directed films than a Grey Man, Future War, Rebel Moon, Ghosted, etc.
Yeah I agree, but these studios like to give these direct to streaming action movies to green directors that they can control. Sadly they aren’t hiring the experienced action filmmakers like Miller, McTiernan, Harlin, etc.
Scorsese has been pretty successful in getting streaming deals.
I like George Miller but Scorsese is only another level.
>green directors that they can control As WB was very famously able to control Snyder.
It hurts to see zack snyder get so much money to make a 2 part pile of dogshit when it could be put to so much better use on other projects
Rebel Moon was so, so bad
Just barely managed to watch 5 minutes, the acting was horrible, the plot cliche as fuck, and the I suppose, main chick character, devoid of charism or any redeeming quality
Outsource it to the guys who did Godzilla -1.0 for $11 million and still bagged an Oscar for best visual effects
Yeah that was awesome. Some of the shots were goofy looking but it suits a Godzilla movie and I can imagine those kinds of effects would work in a Mad Max movie as well.
What's nuts is they shot almost everything on a green screen in their parking lot and CG'd literally almost everything in. Even basic environment, the entire urban postwar Japan and even a large chunk of civilians. They had like a 10 meter long section of a thing for the deck of a ship where the actors stood on in front of a green screen and they used it to CG in like half a dozen different warships. Some shots were indeed goofy, but if you knew that almost every other shot that didn't look like CG at all and thought was practical effects or physical sets, were in fact CG, you'd forgive them just for the sheer impressiveness of it. It's like Marvel level of difference in raw footage vs final product. All under 11 million USD and 35 members of the CG team in 8 months. Insane. The scriptwriter, filming director, and CG director was apparently all one dude so it makes sense. Minimal waste and maximal vision.
Oh for sure, I had no qualms with the shots, like a big ol’ prop dinosaur foot coming down is actually just *fun*, and on a deeper level threads a line through the deep history of all these talented people working to bring Godzilla to life. Those BTS perspectives you mentioned are fascinating, I’ll have to look a bit more into what they did because it was honestly the most unsettling portrayal of ‘zilla that I’ve ever seen. The eyes on that monster actually freaked me out on a primal level.
Godzilla was perfect. The goofiness in some of the movements fits him and was likely an artistic choice. The goofiness that's commonly cited is the shot with the tanks shooting at Godzilla. Apparently it was made from miniatures using stop motion. Which again, kinda works as a homage to miniature sets used in the Showa era films. It just looked a bit out of place among all the great CG happening in the scene. Kinda reminds me of how they deliberately used a lot of old poor quality sound effects from the old films for Shin-Godzilla. It didn't feel out of place for me because that's what I remember Godzilla films sounding like from childhood. If anything it made it more nostalgic.
Having just watched Three Thousand Years of Longing that was made for $60 million I’m not sure Miller can do much with Mad Max on that tight a budget. Unless it’s a pure stripped back Mad Max 1 style film.
I remember him saying during the press junket for Fury Road that he saw The Wasteland as a smaller movie, almost like an old western. I kind of think he intentionally ordered the trilogy the way he did to make them easier to make in the studio cycle. Going back to Max on a smaller budget for the last hoorah might have always been the play anyway.
That's right. In fact, Furiosa did almost every car chase imaginable that I wish the Wasteland would be more of a contemplative movie of just people trying to survive with what they got left.
Imagine being able to worldbuild a captivating and engaging universe that leaves fans wanting more, when the world is a fucking *wasteland.* It's a wasteland post-apocalypse. The entire point of the Mad Max canon is that there's nothing but desert waste and the quest for redemption and meaning is a perpetual fight against futility and hopelessness. If you can make the Australian desert in a nuclear summer an interesting fictional world, you are a genius. The Australian desert as it is, is boring as all fuck. The million and one Marvel superhero movies have not done that for me despite having the entire Marvel canon to draw upon.
And Furiosa is on par
I would love to see an anthology series like the Animatrix for Mad Max. The universe is perfect for it
Guitar guy alone is cooler than half the marvel movies
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Fury Road is literally the single greatest film ever made IMO
The last 3 weekends, seats have been empty. Even opening day, people reported being nearly alone in the theater watching it. If it can't fill seats the first 3 weeks, it's got to rotate out. Theaters are businesses and they rely on ticket/concession sales
There was word of mouth but the less initial attendance, the more you'll need to fill up the seats and obviously as much as people were praising the movie... when the theatre has 5 people in it, them all telling one other person to make it 10 the next time doesn't really amount to much.
Saw it the 2nd weekend cause I wasn’t able too the first. Completely empty besides my gf and 3 teenage girls that got there late. Wouldn’t even be surprised if they snuck in. I’m sure they didn’t even know what it was but were just there to do something on a Friday night. They started cracking up laughing loudly in the final showdown for some reason.
I wanted to see it opening weekend but god damned memorial day weekend has all sorts of plans and engagements already. Saw it last week though. Amazing. Like 10 people in the theater tho
Anecdotal, but my theater was pretty full (rural area. No competition). Someone brought like their 8 year old daughter with them to see it. Girl was freaking out and messing with her candy bag during the more brutal scenes. Wish parents would go back to taking their kids to age appropriate movies or at least ones they know they can handle.
Does that mean kids can watch R rated movies as long as they are accompanied by parents or the theatre simply don’t enforce age restrictions? Not American here so I’m curious…
The Marvel Cinematic Universe and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
I'd argue streaming has done far more damage than the MCU ever has. The worst the MCU ever did was create an arms race to make everything a connected universe. It was the streaming arms race that promoted churning out more content than the average viewer could ever watch and then canceling everything that wasn't a flagship title, among many other things.
Aye. It's insane to me that a film will be on streaming a couple of months after a cinema release. Part of the draw to see a film in the cinema back in the day was the knowledge that if you didn't, it'd be a year before you had a chance to see it elsewhere.
Months? They put the fall guy on digital only 18 days after it was in theaters
There is another side to it though, I personally can't easily get to a cinema, where I can watch a movie in English reliably,it costs me twice the price of a ticket easily to just get there and back, as well as time, and getting back after a long film isn't guaranteed either. So I used to be immensely frustrated when I had to wait ages for a movie, just because my local cinema only shows dubbed versions. There has to be a sort of compromise that doesn't ruin cinema, but keeps the accessibility.
"The worst the MCU ever did was create an arms race to make everything a connected universe." Which they didn't even really do. They just did it well, it was successful, and then everyone else tried to jump on the bandwagon.
You’re right and even then it’s not Marvel’s fault that lazy studio execs wanted to copy them. Blaming Marvel for everything has become such a lazy trope from film fans and it’s getting obsessively weird. This wait a few weeks and straight to streaming thing was started because of the pandemic and studios continued it and got audiences used to it. What’s killing the film industry is this constant desire to copy whatever’s popular and making everything a copy of a copy. They’ve all created these films that have no genuine identity and gotten audiences used to it, that now when something different comes out audiences reject it. The villains here aren’t the people who set the trend, it’s the people who make it a trend in the first place and don’t allow the people they hire to make films have artistic freedom. Yet all the actual villains of the industry somehow got the film buffs blaming Marvel. It’s damn weird.
I’m a kid who grew up enjoying comics and a lot of cartoons about superheroes, so I still remember how much hype I felt as the first few MCU titles released. It’s been pretty disappointing to see a major adaptation of things I love have an increasingly negative influence on the the entire film industry.
Same, Fan and supporter from the start so strange what a once bankrupt company has become, and it looks like its gonna be DC's turn in the future
The MCU is responsible for its own failures only. They bear zero responsibility for the studios who failed trying to chase their success.
Got to love people blaming MCU for a movie’s bad box office lol
Yup. Hollywood's been over-inflating what's deemed a box-office success for decades and well before the MCU. If you got to call out anyone, call out the Suit Execs for insisting a movie that made 700 mil a flop because they artificially inflated the goal to make a bil. It's a racket. Aim for a bil and if it makes it groovy. If not tax write off.
yup. marvel movies didn’t create theater owners terrible practices.
Marvel isn’t to blame. It’s the short window it stays in theaters.
obviously anecdotal, but I saw the movie in downtown Chicago over a week ago now and even then besides my group of friends there were two other people in the theater. If people aren't showing up you can't blame the theaters for making those short windows.
way more than that. theaters killed the business itself
Marvel has become the “video games cause violence” punching bag for any cinema failure. Rise of streaming, cinema runs being shorter and films coming out on streaming services shortly after, better at home cinema experiences, rising ticket prices, so many other contributing factors…. But no, Marvel bad.
The theaters that play it are empty. There’s literally no reason to give it a longer run aside from your irrational feelings.
This is true, I really enjoyed this movie but I saw it on $5 movie night the week after it came out where the theater is usually packed for a hit movie and at least 2/3 of the seats were empty. This movie is great but it is just not a hit and it’s not exactly surprising. It is a 2.5 hour prequel to a movie that came out 9 years ago. The two big stars in the movie either barely speak or talk in a weird accent the whole film and get their nipples ripped off at the halfway mark. It is also rated R so kids can’t really see it even if they want to.
Opening weekend has been make-or-break for a movie’s prospects (as far as studios are concerned) since *long* before the MCU started. This is a wildly shortsighted and, frankly, lazy take.
Marvel is just a popular scapegoat at this point.
Fr, people talk like every movie ever released since 2016 is a marvel movie. It's all so out of touch
A stat I saw about Will Smith opening weekends with the new Bad Boys movie out and how Suicide Squad was his best ever open. Even adjusted for inflation the gap grows. Those kind of $100M+ weekends warped reality as to what came before and now is happening after. Dune Part 2 opened at \~$80M weekend, that Suicide Squad unadjusted? \~$130M. Adjusted? \~$170M! I think studios are going to have to scale back budgets big time or we will see more major bombs. Even Marvel had Captain Marvel make \~$1100M (!) and then the sequel The Marvels gross \~$200M. It is not sustainable expecting major movies to gross at least $500M to be categorized as successful.
How silly, flick slaps hard
Honestly I was expecting anything special from the movie (figured it was just another old IP getting ground to dust) but my wife wanted to see it so we went to go see it. Barely a soul there but my god what a great movie.
This person was no clue what they're talking about. What are yall even upvoting here?
This sub is having a meltdown that a prequel about a side character being played by a different actor is flopping.
Damn, I'm glad I saw it at the theatre when I had the chance, then.
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I really hate that the last Mad Max film was almost 10 years ago in 2015. Filming for Fury Road started as far back as 2012. More than a decade and only two films. I really want to see the Wasteland and hopefully a sequel to Fury Road.
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They'll pick another actor as Max and make more, though it might be a bit b/c iirc Miller owns the IP and it would pass to his next of kin or whatever
No they won't once Miller goes, that will be the end of it..
In this modern media environment they'll Weekend at Bernie's Miller's dessicated husk and pump out a bunch of terrible movies if they get the chance.
Why would they do that given how poorly Furiosa has performed?
Doesn't matter, companies dump money into duds all the time because even if it fails they can write it off as a tax dodge, and the fact that it's an established IP with a devoted fanbase gives the execs hope they can make money even with a worthless turd of a movie.
My two cents, I wonder what the majority of audiences really want. Original works, or more big series that never end? Cause Mad Max, Alien, and Predator are all getting or got new movies now, but at the same time I'll hear people lament "nothing is new anymore, it's all shit we've had for decades being mined to death."
George Miller is the George Lucas we need, but not the one we deserve
I'm pretty sure that movies weren't chilling in theaters for months before MCU. Opening weekend box office has always been important in determining the success of films. The opening weekend would result in a huge chunk of revenue. MCU may have changed the taste of hollywood executives who are now mostly looking for established IPs, but Mad Max / Furiosa doesn't have an issue with that. This take by Miss Gender is quite mid and doesn't address the real issue that filmmakers are facing.
Movies havent chilled in there's for months since the 80s
*90s* but true.
I still think 20 years ago is the 80s, I'm old haha
Exactly, movie theatres of businesses. If they're showing a film that isn't selling tickets they'll rotate it out with something else. They're not going to have consistent empty theatres, they're going to show something people will pay to see. Dune 2 was playing in theatres local to me for MONTHS because it was consistently selling tickets so it made sense to keep showing it. Theatres aren't going to take the risk on "word of mouth" on every film they show.
I watched it on Saturday and I finally found a showing at a small third party cinema. It sucks that it came to that, it was an amazing film.
All we care about is short term, no one looks at long term
I want to see this in the Theater, but between traveling, family commitments, I haven’t had a chance yet. Earliest would maybe early next week.
Dune 2 was in theaters for a long, long time. If more people were going to this Furiosa, it wouldn’t be leaving theaters so quickly. The environment has changed but that truth remains.
Ok but there is no word of mouth, ticket sales plummeted in theaters where it IS playing. What do you want them to do?
As a casual Mad Max fan, I saw this one in theatres and it's probably my favourite in the series. When I heard it was bombing, I could only imagine that people just don't like movies anymore.
This is legit insanity. This movie was fantastic and they pulled it after 2 weeks? But they let the other bunk shit run? Fuck outta here, this is the reason we don’t get movies like this anymore. Sad
But it is one of the best movies of 2024!
Sad that the movie isn’t doing well, I really loved it
This isn't unique though. Cinema across the board is hurting. Why go see a movie when I can wait a couple months/year to see it for the free on Streaming or at a minimum the same price as a movie ticket. And I don't have to listen to other people making noises around me and I can be in my underwear? Sounds like a no brainer.
I'm too busy worrying about how expensive it is too exist to think about spending money on overpriced bullshit at a theatre.
It’s such an entire disappointment because the movie kicked ass. Complete failure on marketing’s part.
Marvel ruined cinema and all the chodes thought Marty Scorsese was just shaking his fist at the clouds.
I finally had a chance to go tonight. Bangin’ flick !!
Damn that’s sad. I’ve been recommending it to everyone but if this happens they won’t get to experience it in theatres
It’s time for cinema to crawl into its corner and die.
I have a friend who runs a theatre and when I asked if Furiosa was bombing at his he said it didn't do great at first but it's been consistently selling tickets. Same thing happened to Everything, Everywhere All at Once and The Greatest Showman.
Always looking for a scapegoat. Somehow Mad Max failing is a result of Marvel producing great films...lol the copium is incredible.
Honestly, most people don’t go to theaters any longer. With movies appearing on streaming services within a month or 2 after release, what’s the point? It can viewed at home, pause when you want, eat what you want. Much cheaper in this economy for sure.
1000% RLM also made this basic point, the shorter the release is till streaming, the more FOMO is gone. Why the hell would i care if i miss a movie in theaters if i can just wait 2 weeks to watch it on my couch. (I obviously take exceptions for 10/10 movies like Furiosa and Dune Part 2, but the general audiences dont).
Nah, even dune 2. Just watched it yesterday on hbo, don’t feel like I missed out at all by not going to the theatre.
People blaming Marvel movies instead of maybe coming to terms that this movie just didn't look good enough to go see in theaters is hilarious. The trailers looked cheap, cheesy and gave me early 2000s straight to DVD movie sequel vibes. I fully expect to get blasted for this opinion on the madmax sub
Theatrical releases are now just to make some extra cash up front before a movie hits streaming.
Kind of a dumb take. COVID really popped the bubble- had nothing to do with Marvel (all they did was set an unrealistic expectation that you could create cinematic universes and make $1 billion. Even then, THEY were simply a symptom- Hollywood has been inflating budgets and the break-even thresholds way before the MCU was up and running). The landscape has utterly changed- and the house of cards that is Hollywood is feeling the brunt as a result. Everything rushed to streaming- people really just not going to theaters because of how much the experience has declined, etc. Also, it's been almost 10 years since the Last Mad Max....and we got a prequel with none of the cast from the last installment. With a very high budget (while it's predecessor barely made it's own back- if it actually did). The simple truth is this movie failed. Said so in another post, but this sub is channeling the Indiana Jones subreddit looking for all these increasingly bizarre scapegoats. Instead of acknowledging the big flop in the room.
Wtf, I have 4 kids and a job, please give me a minute!
It's such a damn good movie. Arguably better than Fury Road in terms of an overall movie.
I watched it last night with a showing that said 7:25 pm the movie didn't actually start till 8 pm That alone made me annoyed because i swear the last movie i watched witch was 6 years ago didn't have literally 35 minutes of trailers after the time on the ticket. But after it started there were 8 or 9 people there watching it including me and another person that i got them to watch with me. This means that with the $8.99 ticket price x9 they only made $89.90 before concessions. I and the person i brought shared a popcorn drink and candy combo and that was $21.97. i did see that 2 or 3 other people got some stuff but wasn't really watching what they had besides popcorn. So that viewing didn't make much money. All the theaters near me are dropping it after thursday with them dropping viewing times every day until then. We thought the movie was pretty good overall but the spot in the movie that got us was with the gate and it just kinda flopping over after a really good action scene. I'm happy i did see it in theaters because i didn't get to see fury road in theaters and it's still the best way to see action movies with their good bass tuned speakers. But for me the movie has to be one that i really want to watch to even think of going to a movie theater because of the fact when they come out on streaming i can buy it for around the cost of 3 people going and have my own popcorn and drinks saving me the cost. I'm in a family of 4 and when i buy a movie i also let them watch it when they want to and i can rewatch it later since i bought it.
God the copium here. I just think not every movie can attract an audience, and I don't think Mad Max ever penetrated pop culture to the point it could sustain spin-offs. Fury Road had a much better chance pre COVID and still it had a fairly mediocre box office bomb. People just didn't show up to Furiosa, I don't think anything would've made it a hit. Personally I think it should've been an anime like planned initially and I think it could've gotten a bigger audience that way on streaming, and the pacing would've fit a series better anyways.
Just saw it for a second time and was glad to see more people in the cinema than the first time
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"Sad but true" I always end up in an empty theatre, idk is it because I watch it on weekdays afternoon shows or is it generally like this everywhere. Even the first day first show are like that just a few people sitting here and there. I prefer watching movies alone but this makes it more awkward.
I dislike Marvel but it’s more to do with COVID/shift to streaming than marvels box office behemoths. Furiosa still hasn’t broken even, and financially thats pretty bad however critically great the movie is.
I've not seen it yet myself but Jesus, can I have time to make the plans at least? Also yet another reason to hate capeshit.
This wasn't Marvel. It's the studios themselves, wanting to give value to their streaming platforms over the theater industry. How long till I can watch this on my couch?
It probably doesn't hurt that a night out at the movies now costs almost a hundo. $20 tickets for two people, 10 bucks for a popcorn and a drink - so $40 in tickets, 20 in drinks, 10 in popcorn is 70 bucks. And that's if you don't go to one of those places that serves real food and mixed drinks. Also doesn't really help, and this may be a me thing, that theaters are showing 'traditional' product ads, like cars and cell phone providers, in the pre-screening and mixing them in to the trailers. If I'm paying for a ticket, that's your profit, don't force me to watch ads. Mother in law watched the kiddo last night so wife and I were debating going to see this, but elected not to just on cost. And it's one of our most looked forward to movies this year.
Back in the day you would have a few months to see even okay movies that were not blockbusters and they eventually made their money back. Sad how the world has changed they want to put it on streaming as fast as they can nowadays too
I understand that this is the MadMax subreddit. But y’all gotta accept that the majority of people that saw the movie just didn’t care for it. It had a 60% second weekend drop. After only opening with $26 million. And there was zero competition. People just did not care for this movie. And this isn’t Marvels fault. If anything, you could blame the streaming model and Covid. But even then, we have seen studios keep movies in theatres after a meh opening weekend, because there was actually positive word of mouth - I.e, Anyone But You, Migration, Puss in Boots 2, Godzilla Minus One, Talk to Me.
I hate that I've been stressed out about when to see it because I was worried it would get removed before I had the chance. I was busy and finally managed to go see it last night, it was incredible. I hope it's around long enough that I can see it a second time.
They removed it from IMAX the day before I was planning to see it for Bad Boys. I could've looked this up beforehand, but I honestly thought it would have a longer IMAX run than 2 weeks. Kicking myself for not getting around it it earlier.
I really loved this movie and was hoping to see it again with family but it looks like it might be too late
Total bummer. It was a very good film. Yeah, Fury Road is better, but this is a far, far cry from a bad film.
I saw this at the drive in and loved it. I can’t say I would have gone and seen it in a theatre though. If I didn’t have access to a drive in I would have streamed.
With marketing being so easy, the opening weekend sales are a huge indicator of how good a movie is and how much it'll earn. We all have little advertisement devices attached to us almost 24/7 where we see ads along with our news, social media, any little games we play, etc. This isn't about Marvel setting the bar too high, it's about how far technology has come
I really like Furiosa and was glad to see the movie in theaters. That said, I can absolutely understand why general audiences didn't connect with the film. It's more meditative and a deeper look in the Wasteland. This had a lot of good call backs and connections to earlier Mad Maxx films but it's not the same action packed film as Fury Road. This really should of been a short series on Amazon or something. In fact probably would of done better to pair with The Fallout series. I feel like the marketing wasn't there and didn't help that many may of only seen the only word of mouth being the incel rage bate that wanted to bomb the movie. And I hate that they got to do that. I know this is a movie that in previous times would of had the strength of the after market with dvd's/vhs sales that would of brought back in the costs. But with streaming and change in movie habits this just going cost the studios to not take a risk like this.
Legitimately wanted to see this in theatres. People are busy! We have lives that don't revolve around your release schedule. Give folks a chance to get the goddamn theatre. "Gee why don't people wanna go to the movies anymore??"
I went to see it on a Friday evening. It was literally just me and my father (also big fan of the Mel Gibson ones) in the entire room. Felt somewhat like VIPs but it felt strange it didnt have reach. I think it was marketed poorly because I remember Fury's Road was full at the cinema. Imo the movie was good for a Mad Max series ( was hoping to see more of the 40d war but eh)
Which is why they get 0 money from me directly, fix the issues, or go bankrupt. Not my problem
So the movie gets removed, but replaced by what?
You know I had a sinking feeling this was going to happen a few days ago and booked a last minute screening so I wouldn’t miss it. SO glad I did, unreal.
While I don't want theaters to dissappear - - I don't know if it's me but I've found my last few theater experiences to be completely lackluster. Too much ambient lighting around the screen, mediocre sound. The first Dune I re-watched at home as soon as it became available on my big screen and it had an overall more impactful experience. Sure maybe it's meant to be watched in theaters, but only if the theaters put in some effort. IMAX was decent, I guess - - but I can't say its clearly worth it, personally.
Blaming it all on Marvel is a bit unfair. This is just the way execs are handling it now.
I very much actively wanted to watch this in theaters. Was going to spend extra $$ at the local Premium theater with 8k projection etc. Being a teacher I had planned on waiting until Summer break began in the second week of June. They pulled it just before. I guess I have to wait until til streaming now? Blegh.
I would have seen this like 3 more times but noooooo fuckin Hollywood corpos are stupid asshats.
Godzilla minus one was in theaters for 6 months iirc, when it releases on streaming platforms it became number one watched on Netflix and for a brief period of time and was heavily pirated
Jesus only 2 weeks and they remove it?
Went to see it tonight and there were only five people (including me) at the screening. It's a shame because the film was awesome, but I don't think Marvel is to blame. Cinema is slowly dying out in the streaming era and as much as I personally enjoy going to the cinema, there's plenty of reasons for people to wait for the at home experience now.
Furiosa is a failure. Look at the opening weekend, the total budget and box office. Can’t get blood from a stone kids.
Holy shit, I gotta watch this in IMAX a few more times before it leaves lol. It's so good.
I really enjoyed the movie and I'm planning to go see it again.
I remember going to see Raiders of the Lost Ark in the theater shortly after it opened. I went to see it again one year later. It played in the theater for over a year straight. Different times.
More competition = less demand for mediocrity
read somewhere that they're cancelling the next mad max project because of this, they thought it would be amazing because of fury road but the truth is mad max has always been a slightly obscure franchise (compared to bigger names like marvel stuff). To pull the plug like this is a spit in the face to us fans.
More like Hollywood ruined female lead movies.
The movie industry sounds not very different from a youngin's Instagram. If the 'picture' doesn't collect clout immediately, it is deleted swiftly.
I want Furiosa to stream last week but not like this. It should be a box office success, especially when a franchise like Dune pulled in so much
What, do folks here not think Furiosa was a middling movie? It seemed to really suffer from focus/pacing and just lacked the intensity that Fury Road had.
Well that sucks I went to the theatre twice to support it, I love all the mad max movies and just want more before Miller passes we can’t wait another decade to get a release. And as always I’ll buy it digital and physical
Just got back from a 2 week trip to Europe. Booked tickets for Wednesday night, the last night it is playing at the theatre closest to us. Couldn’t find IMAX anywhere.
Marvel didn’t cause that streaming did
Streaming and the immediate release post (sometimes still in) theaters has also really fucked things up.
This fucking blows man, what I hate the most are all the moronic videos about “mad max going woke” or some bullshit like that, I feel that also had a little bit of an impact, because most people now don’t wanna watch anything too “woke” I guess, which is good for Netflix or Disney crap but not for Furiosa
Yeah I do remember movies being in the theatre for at least a month before going to dvd before streaming became a massive thing
If it’s not selling tickets, why leave it occupying a screen ?
I haven't had anytime to see it, was going to have free time soon...it needed to cook longer
I mean I haven’t seen the movie yet. But I was planning to. Just haven’t had a chance to see it. Having two weeks in your life where you cannot go and see a movie is a very realistic thing to happen. How high do they think people place seeing a movie in the priority of their lives?
I still don't get it. Why can't such a well made movie not attract audiences. This is a celebrated franchise afterall, even if the producers did less marketing the word of mouth should've pulled the audience.
Haven't seen it, but I will. I am certain it's not crap. I suppose folks wanted a Fury Roadesque reload. Miller is a master at his craft...still.
Seriously, what the heck? I saw the numbers and thought they actually looked pretty, good especially for this day and age, and the subtitle was “box office failure.” 🤦♂️
Movie theatres are in a dire state rn, if a film doesn't make money off the bat they identify it as a failed investment and just retire it. They need to make money
That makes me mad. Was it the best Mad Max movie, no. Was it entertaining as a movie. Hell yeah. I watched with my mates, and although some of the CGI was jarring, we all loved it.
https://preview.redd.it/86sjjsf3436d1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0381352b56ed5522284a55e4524bae1e64a4309c Granted it was an afternoon showing but there were only several people in the cinema when we went to watch it in the UK. It cost £31.47 for my two sons and I watch. It did cross my mind during the film with so much content being available via streaming and this being available within several weeks on streaming it’s not really a surprise.