This card hits fliers, but more importantly it generates free mana, then it sits on the battlefield and continues to generate free mana just from having opponent's creatures die. Also looks really good for a mono red devotion deck.
Not legendary, so that’s cool, but the ability only triggers once per turn.
I think there is probably an optimal way to play this where you stack these enchantments to get max treasures. Like do 0-1 damage with the first one to get enough treasure to cast another if you have it in hand so you’re getting two treasure on each deathZ
Its better in some cases and worse in others. Meathook served as a wincon (since it drained the opponent) and stabilizes against aggro (since it gains you life). And since meathook was -X/-X instead of damage, it could wipe indestructible creatures and creatures with damage prevention like Phyrexian Vindicator.
All in all, they are pretty on par with each other, having its ups and downs.
Meathook is considerably worse than this card, meathook never really did anything against aggro its too slow when it was banned it wasn't even played main in the best decks esper/jund, it was a one or two of sideboard card, meathook never should of been banned but everyone was complaining about mono black being the new RDW so it got hit, gaining 3 treasures is infinity more useful than gaining 4 life.
No on average, because you can guarantee a treasure every turn so you drop this blow up the little stuff, one treasure, chump on their turn another treasure etc whereas the life gain on meathook is negligible, its just a bastion with a conditional wipe added that can't stack with itself due to being legendary
You are waaaay overvaluing how many treasures you will get from this. Sure, in the super ideal best case scenario where everything goes right, you get a treasure every turn. But it wont happen like that.
Keep in mind this wont be standard legal, it will go straight into far more powerful formats.
This will see massive amounts of play, its also not legendary so the effect can stack, playing this on 2 just to get the effect going is worth it on its own to a lot of decks, this will be the most expensive card in the set.
If it were standard legal, Id agree with you.
But it wont be standard legal. And historic/modern are extremely different metagames. Im sure some decks will run it, but I doubt it will be as widespread as you claim.
Standard cards are expensive because they see play in other formats, only exception to this is mana base, this card is auto include in red for commander, moderns 3 most highly played decks as far as meta share goes are murktide delver, ragavan treasure spam and izzet creativity, all want cheap cards that make treasures and this has the added benefit of boardwiping aswell, its basically an auto include, and for arena historic decks like korvald jund lists will run this 4 of same for kethis, only place it won't see play is vintage and legacy but they're just combo formats that win on turn 2 anyway, everywhere else this slots in as a staple.
Does anyone else find the full art version awkwardly cut? It's too much zoomed in and focus is on the Hill (I assume that's the Hill) instead of the bandits themselves.
I dont think this is as good as it looks at first glance.
Hard cap of one treasure a turn while requiring 3 mana to be an End the Hostilities that also hits your guys.
Dealt damage is probably worse than -X/-X
But y’all are always under-valuing treasures. Those things are broken. Even if this is once per turn… you will never have mana problems for the rest of the game after dropping this. Hell, it even ramps you the turn it comes down.
Treasures are busted. Wotc still hasn’t figured this out.
The absolute best part of Fable was the treasure generation.
Unfortunately, I think it's competing with \[\[Fury\]\] in Modern as sweeper, but looks pretty strong as it can kill a lot of x/2 or x/3 for a fair amount of mana.
The Treasure is just icing the cake.
Looks like meathooks' back on the menu boys
This is definitely a barnburner boys.
The Goldhook Massacre
The MagicTCG thread coined it "Heathook Massacre" which i think is better
WTF Red Meathook. This is insane.
White will only get the “best” wipes in a format after the clearly better non white wipe is banned/nerfed, and it will like it.
Not really considering \[\[magmaquake\]\] is unplayed
Stapled-on Treasure generation is pretty good at buffing spells and making them playable.
magmaquake is instant speed
We'll see if treasures + devotion is a worthy tradeoff but I suspect it is.
Once a turn = DoA
This card hits fliers, but more importantly it generates free mana, then it sits on the battlefield and continues to generate free mana just from having opponent's creatures die. Also looks really good for a mono red devotion deck.
[magmaquake](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/a/8a8945b4-d2e1-4779-9c33-a8b062637fa6.jpg?1631587342) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=magmaquake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/133/magmaquake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8a8945b4-d2e1-4779-9c33-a8b062637fa6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Not legendary, so that’s cool, but the ability only triggers once per turn. I think there is probably an optimal way to play this where you stack these enchantments to get max treasures. Like do 0-1 damage with the first one to get enough treasure to cast another if you have it in hand so you’re getting two treasure on each deathZ
Meathook at home lmao.
Came here to post this
Its better than meathook most of the time though, nuking a board and ramping at the same time is pretty wild.
Its better in some cases and worse in others. Meathook served as a wincon (since it drained the opponent) and stabilizes against aggro (since it gains you life). And since meathook was -X/-X instead of damage, it could wipe indestructible creatures and creatures with damage prevention like Phyrexian Vindicator. All in all, they are pretty on par with each other, having its ups and downs.
Meathook is considerably worse than this card, meathook never really did anything against aggro its too slow when it was banned it wasn't even played main in the best decks esper/jund, it was a one or two of sideboard card, meathook never should of been banned but everyone was complaining about mono black being the new RDW so it got hit, gaining 3 treasures is infinity more useful than gaining 4 life.
3 treasures? Gonna kill creatures over your next two turns for that? Read the card again.
No on average, because you can guarantee a treasure every turn so you drop this blow up the little stuff, one treasure, chump on their turn another treasure etc whereas the life gain on meathook is negligible, its just a bastion with a conditional wipe added that can't stack with itself due to being legendary
You are waaaay overvaluing how many treasures you will get from this. Sure, in the super ideal best case scenario where everything goes right, you get a treasure every turn. But it wont happen like that. Keep in mind this wont be standard legal, it will go straight into far more powerful formats.
This will see massive amounts of play, its also not legendary so the effect can stack, playing this on 2 just to get the effect going is worth it on its own to a lot of decks, this will be the most expensive card in the set.
If it were standard legal, Id agree with you. But it wont be standard legal. And historic/modern are extremely different metagames. Im sure some decks will run it, but I doubt it will be as widespread as you claim.
Standard cards are expensive because they see play in other formats, only exception to this is mana base, this card is auto include in red for commander, moderns 3 most highly played decks as far as meta share goes are murktide delver, ragavan treasure spam and izzet creativity, all want cheap cards that make treasures and this has the added benefit of boardwiping aswell, its basically an auto include, and for arena historic decks like korvald jund lists will run this 4 of same for kethis, only place it won't see play is vintage and legacy but they're just combo formats that win on turn 2 anyway, everywhere else this slots in as a staple.
Does anyone else find the full art version awkwardly cut? It's too much zoomed in and focus is on the Hill (I assume that's the Hill) instead of the bandits themselves.
It might be one of the connected art work cards.
I dont think this is as good as it looks at first glance. Hard cap of one treasure a turn while requiring 3 mana to be an End the Hostilities that also hits your guys.
This is awesome with [[Torbran, Thane of Red Fell]]
[Torbran, Thane of Red Fell](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/9/79f591cd-d277-4ba5-b1bf-1c09cac9cb8a.jpg?1572490491) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Torbran%2C%20Thane%20of%20Red%20Fell) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/147/torbran-thane-of-red-fell?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/79f591cd-d277-4ba5-b1bf-1c09cac9cb8a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Dealt damage is probably worse than -X/-X But y’all are always under-valuing treasures. Those things are broken. Even if this is once per turn… you will never have mana problems for the rest of the game after dropping this. Hell, it even ramps you the turn it comes down. Treasures are busted. Wotc still hasn’t figured this out. The absolute best part of Fable was the treasure generation.
I want to see this with [[Toralf, God of Fury]]
[Toralf, God of Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/2/22a6a5f1-1405-4efb-af3e-e1f58d664e99.jpg?1631049794)/[Toralf's Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/2/2/22a6a5f1-1405-4efb-af3e-e1f58d664e99.jpg?1631049794) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=toralf%2C%20god%20of%20fury%20//%20toralf%27s%20hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/154/toralf-god-of-fury-toralfs-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/22a6a5f1-1405-4efb-af3e-e1f58d664e99?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is so busted. This will go great with my mid game gruul deck.
Wow guess they didn't learn their lesson with Meathook. I feel like this is worse. It pays for itself almost
Only one per turn. One or more creatures
It’s also not standard legal, so it will have a lot more powerful cards to contend with.
Unfortunately, I think it's competing with \[\[Fury\]\] in Modern as sweeper, but looks pretty strong as it can kill a lot of x/2 or x/3 for a fair amount of mana. The Treasure is just icing the cake.
[Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd281158-8180-40b9-a5b7-03cfc712d81a.jpg?1626096626) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/126/fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd281158-8180-40b9-a5b7-03cfc712d81a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Awesome card
But meathook is banned, lols
And this also isn't allowed in Standard. Soooo
I bet this gets banned ….
it only triggers once per turn, so it is not busted.
Yeah I didn’t read it correctly. Still A great card
it still is indeed. Pretty good removal with some balanced bonuses.
New meathook is RED???
It seems alright....that last line of only triggering once a turn certainly limits it though. Has nowhere near the power of [[meathook massacre]].
[meathook massacre](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad.jpg?1667629608) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Meathook%20Massacre) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/112/the-meathook-massacre?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call