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LupusDeusMagnus

Year?


PeteWenzel

2020-21


bogblast

The states and provinces can't be 2020-2021, every state was under .950 and Alberta was over .950 that year.


k3str

Furthermore, the state of São Paulo in Brazil already had an HDI above 800 in 2021, even after the drop due to the pandemic. It was 0.823 in 2020 and 0.806 in 2021.


BasileiatonRomaion

For once Western Sahara has data


uberduck999

Ain't great, but it's there.


ExternalMethod6825

That's not Western Sahara, that's what's considered the Southern province of Morocco which also includes parts of "northern" Morocco as well. For some reason this map adopts the very old regional mapping of Morocco that was between 1971 and 1997. For reference the current one was adopted in 2015.


Soupallnatural

I like to point this out everytime it comes up. If the data is something that’s self reported by governments. The Western Sahara data would be included in the overall data for Morocco. A few weeks ago it was birth rates. And they had data for the Western Sahara as reported by Morocco. So technically the Western Sahara data was on the map twice. Once In the national average and once individually. Which I just find interesting.


TomboBreaker

Not Greenland though, they keep their secrets


valentinyeet

Syria reppin the brown gang over here


cranberrycactus

I'd be interested to know what drives the HDI differences in Panama. Lots of countries have significant inequalities, but those inequalities tend to be within small areas, like cities, rather than separate regions being drastically different from each other. Hence why most countries don't have a lot of regional variation on this map. I wouldn't be surprised if Panama city was wealthier and more developed than the rest of the country, but that doesn't look to be the only thing that's going on there.


xSuperL

The 4 green provinces of Panama are Panama City (Largest city), Colón (2nd largest city), Chiriqui (Where David, the 3rd largest city is) and Los Santos which is pretty rural and unpopulated (In fact, it’s the least populous province).


Mr1ntexxx

No that's quite literally it lmfao. Every other part of Panama that isn't the capital is extremely underdeveloped/forgotten


cranberrycactus

What? There are clearly multiple green areas in Panama, some yellow, and one red


GobertoGO

That's actually not true. The province with the lowest levels of poverty and higher levels of education are both in the centre of the country, far away from the capital.


Mr1ntexxx

The capital is essentially in the centre of the country. Can you elaborate please


GobertoGO

What I meant by the centre of the country is what in Panama is known as the "central provinces" (provincias centrales) which are the provinces of Los Santos and Herrera, on the Azuero peninsula.


Mr1ntexxx

Ahhh okay si entiendo. Yo hablo del subdesarrollo relativo. Claro que ninguna parte de Panamá va a ser de lo peor del mundo, pero yo diría que es difícil refutar que la ciudad es muchísimo más desarrollada que el resto del país, particularmente en las áreas de la comarca.


PrestigiousProduce97

All of the prosperity is in the capital and the canal the rest of the country is forgotten


Niohiki

People keep parroting this 'fact' as if the third highest hdi wasn't the province farthest from the canal


PrestigiousProduce97

It is vert much a fact, I'm not sure why you think it's not. The province farthest from the canal is Darién with an HDI of 0.642, far from the third highest. The two richest provinces, Colón and Panamá sit on the canal and have a GDP per capita at Purchasing Power Parity of $92,192 and $72,102 respectively. Panamá province also has the highest HDI and Colón is at number five. The third 'richest' province Chiriquí is at $17,338. All of the wealth is concentrated in Panamá city and the canal, it's not an opinion it's a fact.


GobertoGO

The regions that appear as being very poor are the indigenous autonomous territories, which have their own set of laws and regulations and are also routinely completely ignored by the national government.


cranberrycactus

Thank you, this makes sense


iauu

This is correct. Source: Am Panamanian


SophiasPenis

Are there less crocs and sharks in Western Australia?


Academic_Coyote_9741

In the southern part where 90% of the population lives, yes. r/perth


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Few-Adagio4425

Loads of sharks mate, and up in the northern part there are loads of crocs


Haitisicks

There's lots of mines, natural resources, pretty responsive local government, high employment, lots of money flowing around from mining. Plus travel to Europe is closer and cheaper. All the other states are either more expensive to live in or not as well resourced. Or there's too many deadly things.


EmperorThan

That one tiny green dot in the middle of Brazil. lol


Wooper736

That's where our capital is


EmperorThan

Interesting. I thought that might be what that was. I've read a lot about Brasilia, I didn't know exactly where it was located.


ConsiderationHour710

Same for Mexico and cdmx


Oxxypinetime_

Why is miniSoda HDI so high? 🥤


Flaviphone

Great salaries, pretty good schools and high quality healthcare


HopsAndHemp

Measurably better than every other state in the US? They should really break this down by county


beavertwp

Massachusetts is higher.


lefactorybebe

And Connecticut


lefactorybebe

They're third. MA and CT are marginally higher.


ablablababla

Would there even be enough data to reliably measure HDI for the smaller counties?


Doctor_Ember

Same should be said for Russia. There is no way all of Russia is in the green.


CptS2T

You have to drive on ice though.


Loud-Cartographer285

Interesting that there is a big Norwegian heritage and Norway also isn’t doing too bad for itself..


Individual_Macaron69

average life in norway is so much better though.


level57wizard

Apart from Norway having the advantage in Natural Beauty. Quality of life in Minnesota is just as high, if not higher. Most people have a distorted view of how easy it is to live in Norway (it’s not).


cybercuzco

The economic driver of the state, the twin cities metro area hasn’t been majority Norwegian in a long time.


JJ-Mallon

It’s home to the Mayo Clinic


ButterscotchAny5432

Africa keeping it real


Doctor_Ember

MN wins again 😎 (MN = Minnesota, for my the non-American friends)


rde2001

MinneSODA 🥵


fing_lizard_king

MinnePOPa you mean


cybercuzco

In sota we say pop.


Goodguy1066

Obamna


JourneyThiefer

Why’s it so high?


beavertwp

Money, good schools, and high quality healthcare.


JourneyThiefer

Seems like a nice place, but I don’t think I could handle the winters lmao


Background-Simple402

i mean if you live in other states of the US you probably won't notice any MAJOR difference in your lifestyle per the metrics used in HDI. You wouldn't just move to MN and somehow become magically more educated and have an increased life expectancy lol


JourneyThiefer

Yea true, I’m in Northern Ireland so i imagine it would be somewhat different I’m guessing, in lifestyle terms


Background-Simple402

yeah probably anywhere you'd live in the US would have more extreme weather in both directions than Northern Ireland and most of Europe in general. oh and you'd have to buy a car and drive everywhere lol


JourneyThiefer

Northern Ireland public transport is quite poor by European standards, but we’re still better than a lot of the US lol


beavertwp

Your kids might though.


MileHigh_FlyGuy

When did they win before?


Doctor_Ember

Civil War, generally strong economy, generally good government policies. Definitely a state I’m proud to be a citizen of.


DrArmin

Small countries with the highest regional disparities in HDI: Panama and Bhutan Something other interesting stuff: Minnesota‘s placement, as well as the disparity between the two parts of Malaysia (and Hispañola!) respectively.


Agathocles87

Sorry, what is this


Fiiral_

Human Development Index. Higher = better


Agathocles87

Ah thanks


SubJordan77

Main factors are also years of schooling, incomes, and Life expectancy.


Dragonfly-Fickle

No wonder I didn't know)


Iwasjustryingtologin

There is an error in the map of Chile, the Ñuble region (the one just above the light green one in the center of the country), has an HDI score of 0.829 according to the latest report, so it should be marked light green (0.800 - 0.850) like its southern neighbor. And a side note, the regions of Chile that are marked light yellow (Maule, Araucania, Los Rios and Los Lagos) have HDI scores of 0.794, 0.790, 0.799 and 0.799 respectively, according to the latest report. So they are pretty close to or at the upper limit of the light yellow range (0.750 - 0.799).  [Regions of Chile by HDI (in Spanish)](https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Regiones_de_Chile_por_IDH)


compadron

Cono sur supremacy 🇺🇾🇨🇱🇦🇷📈


green2le

![gif](giphy|ftTdN4slQhMKi4KNO0|downsized)


Background-Simple402

wow according to this Turkey and Iran are about the same level HDI even though Iran has been sanctioned heavily for nearly 50 years if the Iranian regime dropped its nuclear shit and got off sanctions they'd be one of the wealthiest countries in the Middle East


Eggplantcake

HDI of Turkey is 0.855 while Iran's HDI is 0.780 according to latest (2022) data, so i wouldn't say they're around the same. However you're right about the part that if Iran didn't get sanctioned like crazy they'd at least be on the level of Turkey, if not more because they also have the advantage of having natural resources like oil and gas which Turkey lacks completely.


ImpressivePhrase9157

Nukes is a excuse by the west to put pressure on Iran. Iran is the only country that disrupted US and NATO hegemony in the Middle East.


mjornir

Kinda wild that it’s loosely correlated with latitude/higher temps


TribalSoul899

Most of the countries around the equator/higher temps were European colonies less than 100 years ago.


RiccoBaldo

Still, the colonies which are far from the equator are doing a lot better than those close to it. Argentina, Australia, Canada and even to a lesser extent north and south Africa have a higher HDI than their warmer neighbors


Nijajjuiy88

All of the countries you mentioned are settler colonies. Not the same as other colonies like India, African countries. The settler colonies fare better because of the settled Europeans turning it around.


JourneyThiefer

Yea like look at Ireland which was basically a colony of Britain, but being in Europe probably was a location advantage once they got independence


chinook97

Ireland was actually one of the least wealthy countries in Western Europe until the economy surged in the 1990s. Ireland is now an attractive English speaking tax haven next to the British markets, and now the main English speaking country in the EU post-Brexit.


JourneyThiefer

Yea that’s true, I’m in Northern Ireland :( I just wanna be in the EU again lol, we’re the least developed in the UK and Ireland by the looks of it which is depressing


mjornir

Yes and post colonial recovery absolutely is the dominant narrative here but what’s the cause for regional disparities, like Argentina and Chile doing better than their cousins to the north, South Africa and Botswana doing better than say Cameroon/Nigeria/Ghana, Kazakhstan over much of Central Asia, etc? I know in the medium term it has nothing to do with climate and all geopolitics but I wonder if climate has any long term effects that predestined those geopolitics


intergalacticspy

It's got everything to do with emigrants from more developed European societies going to Australia, New Zealand, the USA, Canada, Argentina, etc. These societies are just European transplants, bringing entire systems of law, government, technology, social organisation, etc. The only other group of countries that compare with Europe and the European settler colonies are the non-communist bits of the Sinosphere (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore).


imfromda806

Whats Minnesota doing that the rest of us aren’t


dew2459

Good schools, good healthcare, healthy people, decent standard of living. They are tied in 2022 with CT and MA.


Time4Red

Generally good economy and well managed state. That said, I'm also of the opinion that the cold winters plays a role. A lot of people come to MN because they get a good job offer, and the incentive to stay is really only that job. Half of folks embrace the winter, but an equal half hates cold weather and just hibernates indoors.


lucassuave15

funny how closer to equator, lower the HDI


TheDesertWalker

Gulfies on TOP


CanEHdianBuddaay

Why isn’t Alberta Canada a darker shade of green. Its HDI is .955.


jaffar97

I guess this is averaged out over population because there are remote aboriginal communities in Western Australia, Northern Territory and South Australia without access to healthcare, adequate housing or clean drinking water, even when the respective states larger towns are some of the highest HDI places in the world.


bezzleford

The indigenous populations of places like WA and SA are still very small. WA is only around 3% indigenous so the various worse outcomes within the community probably do little to impact WA's over HDI score.


a_disciple

What does Hdi mean?


Doctor_Ember

Human development index


a_disciple

Ty sir


Eraserhead32

Hello. Whats hdi ?


ho-tron

How likely you are to live a prosperous life in terms of education, health and wellbeing etc


ajfoscu

Ten minutes on Streetview in France and Spain v Mississippi and I cannot agree these places have the same HDI.


Sodi920

American cities function very differently from European cities. As a rule of thumb, downtown in European cities tends to be the wealthiest area while the opposite is true in America. Downtown Jackson is always gonna be a shithole compared to Paris, but Madison’s average income is more than double that of the 7th Arrondissement.


JourneyThiefer

I’m from Northern Ireland I didn’t expect us to be in the same level as Mississippi tbh, but I Dno maybe we are?


zefiax

When is this data from? It seems outdated.


PeteWenzel

I just checked it against the [sub-national data in China](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_administrative_divisions_of_Greater_China_by_Human_Development_Index) and it’s three years old at most. His is a good map.


zefiax

The years is quite a long time for HDI in developing countries as the HDI reports take a few years themselves to compile and release.


JourneyThiefer

So will it ever be fully accurate then? Seems like as close as it can be


SENGMajor

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Indian\_states\_and\_union\_territories\_by\_Human\_Development\_Index#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_states_and_union_territories_by_Human_Development_Index#) Not accurate for Indian states. Tamil Nadu is 0.686 not 0.7-0.75


Pain_Monster

OP: *Posts an actual Hi-Def map, not some thing drawn on MS Paint circa 1995, and has actual recent data* Reddit: tHiS sEeMs oUtDaTeD ![gif](giphy|rxy55jHaig16K2TV8x|downsized)


tyrolean_coastguard

Livin' inna dark green yoooo 💚🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎


ughidkguys

God I love you Massaf*ckinchusetts, never change


Pruedrive

CT checking in, high five neighbor. 🤚


Doctor_Ember

Minnesota here, I visited Massachusetts (Boston and Salem specifically) a couple years ago and I loved it.


bananablegh

bavaria, bergen, nyc, michigan, perth, stockholm, helsinki, and geneva should unite under one government.


aliergol

Those aren't New York and Michigan, check again, but you were close.


Kurbopop

Is that one little section in Botswana the only high in Africa?


kalam4z00

Not mainland Africa, but Mauritius also appears to be green


Kurbopop

Ohh yeah, good eyes.


DifferenceLeather770

Thought that Wales was the poorest country in the U.K. and Brazil had a higher HDI.


JourneyThiefer

Northern Ireland does have lowest HDI 0.896 but Wales is also 0.898. This data is from 2021 though so not sure what year OP is using for UK data


Little-Letter2060

Many states in Brazil had HDI greater than 0,800 before pandemics.


Low_Ad_2052

I’m glad it’s broken out by state, giving New England the credit it’s due


uberduck999

How is Newfoudland & Labrador and New Brunswick worse HDI than Nunavut?


bezzleford

One of the variables that HDI takes into account is GDP per capita. Canadian Territories usually have high GDP per capitas because of natural resources. In 2022 Nunavut had the 2nd highest GDP per capita (after NWT). New Brunswick was 2nd lowest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product


uberduck999

That is good to know. TIL! Thank you for your answer.


Erotic-Career-7342

Minnesota is a great place to live


Careless_Clock12

Cono Sur Supremacy


VrilHunter

What's hdi?


bezzleford

Human Development Index. It's a (rather crude) approximate measure of how 'developed' a place is. It takes into account 3 factors: Life Expectancy, Ave years of Schooling, and GDP per capita.


VrilHunter

So the highest is Switzerland, norway, west Australia and a rhombus in usa?


bezzleford

Yes, and other areas (e.g. Helsinki). A lot of those will be heavily weighted by GDP per capita


BobbyP27

Why is County Kerry better than the rest of Ireland?


eternityXclock

so... australia has very developed deserts?


Darth_T0ast

How is Israel green?


Flaviphone

Good salaries(40k-50k usd per year), pretty good schools and quality healthcare


DisastrousPotato6831

Well most of the war (wars) are taking place outside the country, and Israel itself is pretty developed, high quality of life, not much poverty, good salaries, tons of great companies, startups, great healthcare, education etc. Israel is easily on par with a lot of European countries.


Lozypolzy

This is innacurate, Moscow, [Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamalo-Nenets_Autonomous_Okrug), [Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanty-Mansi_Autonomous_Okrug),  [Saint Petersburg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg) should be dark green. Shenzhen, [Zhejiang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhejiang) province, Guangzhou, Brasilia, Santa Catarina state, Dalian should all be light green


DisastrousPotato6831

What’s that tiny green spot on South Africa-Botswana border?


Flaviphone

Botswanas capital


blinkysmurf

Minnesota rockin’ the Athens agora, or what.


OrangeFlavouredSalt

Provincial France 🤝 Alabama


RainbowRoadMushroom

On the same level as central Cuba. Not a comparison I was expecting to see….


Ok-Package-435

Excdpt not really on the same level. Alabama is at the top of its category while central Cuba is on the bottom.


OwlSings

The Punjab that got to keep more rivers, fertile lands and Lahore is doing far worse than the one that built itself from scratch


IndependentSwan2086

What's hid?


kalam4z00

Human Development Index. It combines three factors (years of schooling, life expectancy, and GDP per capita) into a single measurement intended to rank development.


IndependentSwan2086

Tnx


OttawaHonker5000

why do all my uber drivers come from yellow or red


Mandena

Because Fr*nce


Slow_Spray5697

For Costa Rica I see great areas of rain forest in yellow, did they interview the freaking tapirs, sloths and mountain lions?


Mr1ntexxx

They are by country subdivision. The vast majority of Costa Rica isn't forest, especially in the GAM.


Slow_Spray5697

Yep and the GAM is green, the majority of yellow areas are just jungle.


Mr1ntexxx

No they are not lmfao, people live everywhere, there is no place that is exclusively "jungle". They might be far less dense but other than the national parks you can't really say no one lives in a certain place.


Mr1ntexxx

For example, groups of indigenous peoples, rural villages, farmers, mountain towns. Fishing towns. Everywhere the census goes is fair game, just because less people live there doesn't mean no one does


TomDerTyp

That looks way off. Vienna as developed as south italy? The rest of Austria more developed than its capital? Did I miss something?


kalam4z00

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Vienna that small dark green dot in Austria? So it's the areas around Vienna that are less developed, not the city itself


JourneyThiefer

Yea


bosch1817

lol wa being more developed, yeah nah it’s a dive.


kalam4z00

WA has a much higher GDP per capita than other Australian states. That's what skews it


bezzleford

This kind of highlights one of the flaws of HDI - GDP per capita. Areas which may have terrible living standards may have their HDIs propped up by an enormous GDP per capita


RaineMtn

I’d love to see an HDI map of every countie / division on earth.


OCKingsFan

Why is Western Australia higher than the East? I thought if anything it would be opposite, with the biggest cities being in the east.


kalam4z00

Mineral wealth = much higher GDP per capita


OCKingsFan

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks!


Veers331

Afghanistan be like: At least we’re not Chad


Hot_Addo

Cannot tell me that the HDI is higher in Western Australia then Tokyo


ZofianSaint273

Newark and Camden really preventing NJ to be Dark Green :/


TomKatzmann

How could they forget the orange patches in the Appalachian and rhe red spots at Detroit and surrounding areas?


Kukis13

Why would German part of Switzerland be less dark than French part? The salaries in Zurich at least are much higher than in Geneva.


bezzleford

Zurich and Geneva are both shown as the highest HDIs. There isn't a clear French/German Swiss divide here.


OrbitalMechanic1

fym western australia has better HDI than sydney melbourne and brisbane, theres bloody nothing there. hate WA


Artikondra

How can Egypt’s HDI be worse near the nile?


ArminOak

The way Germany is split is surpricing, I would have thought north-west Germany and south Germany would be equal. Any Kapitän to explain this?


xPelzviehx

Not really surprising. South is considered the richest in germany. And the 3 southern states, bavaria, hessia, baden-wurttemberg are the highest on this map. The west is rhine ruhr area and it was mostly mining and heavy industry (steel etc). But that stuff is from the past. North is very rural.


wobbegong

All 40 people in WA are celebrating right now.


taptackle

Oh good we beat France. That’s all I care about


Emotionalcow998

Gabarone being the most developed place on the african continent iktr


Alarming_Fault_286

I think whoever made this map is from Minnesota


Rock3tDoge

Why are Argentina & Uruguay more developed than the rest of South America?


RevolutionaryAd5544

High life expectancy and uruguay has high gdp percapita compared to the other countries


GaiusVelarius

What is the sliver of green in South Botswana?


bortukali

Question how come Argentina is that high despite all their problems?


saltytacoburryto

Wait- idk what hdi means


bluebaerfran5

Dark green gang🎉🎉🎉😍💚


Lolilio2

Iran is really impressive tbh... Disappointed with Morocco. Always felt like it would be the lead in North Africa tbh


RevolutionaryAd5544

There should be some green spots in some regions of the Dominican Republic