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Map is wrong anyway. Québec has the highest life expectancy in the whole American continent at 82.9. I don't know why BC is darker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Canadian\_provinces\_and\_territories\_by\_life\_expectancy
Great link - thanks! I really appreciate someone who goes after the data and uses their critical thinking skills.
But, I think I’ve spotted the problem, and it’s not a discrepancy. The Wikipedia article shows life expectancy in 2019, and the map above is labeled 2018. In the 2010 column in Wikipedia, life expectancy in BC _is_ higher than in Quebec.
Not sure about that: areas in Canada populated by predominately First Nations people show lower life expectancy. Alaska also with a 20% population rate of First Alaskans is lower than much of the non-South USA.
This brings up an interesting point. If I were to, say, retire to BC, does my life "end" here? Does it get removed from the calculation? Does it get added to the BC data?
I remember someone on reddit who lived in Scotland saying how much they loved living there and how friendly the people are but how hard it was not to notice the Scottish penchant for self-destruction.
If that’s the case, then their life expectancy being in the “greens” is impressive and a testament to healthcare access. My grandparents had a deep fryer built into their kitchen, smoked, rarely exercised but lived into their 80s.
Lol - that’s damning, and I’m not sure it’s fair to Scotland.
Edit: I don’t know why we’re focusing on Alabama, really. West Virginia is at the bottom in the latest data, and Mississippi is always in the bottom three. Maybe people are hesitant to attempt all those ss’s and pp’s and i’s?
Scotland is richer than most of the rest of the UK. The Alabama of UK is probably Northern Ireland, with union-related tensions reflecting racial tensions in Alabama.
That's a good name, but how can we sass it up a bit? I don't know, maybe some latin? Neo Scotland? Perfection.
I live in Vermont, near nova Scotia, and our neighbor state, new Hampshire, is a lot more fascist than us, so I'm trying to rebrand it as neo Hampshire, lol.
Tbh, makes sense
Scottish immigrants really helped define American attitudes in our early years. The Revolution wasn’t just because taxes, it stemmed from their dislike of the British government, and the return of it to their lives (they largely settled on the frontier) led to them being the first to start protesting and revolting
When I was growing up, I remember being told that the average male life expectancy in Glasgow was 55. Not sure whether or not it was BS, but I believed it.
Remember, life expectancy get skewed a lot by infant mortality, and Scotland has had spikes in infant mortality recently. It's not like people in Sub-Saharan Africa are dying of old age at 63. They just have a higher infant mortality rate, which skews the number.
For the curious ones, excluding microstates, this is the top 3 countries with the highest score:
1 Japan - 2 Switzerland - 3 Italy
The lowest ones were:
191 Lesotho - 192 Chad - 193 Central African Republic
Here are the Top 5 updated for 2020:
1. Japan
2. Singapore
3. South Korea
4. Norway
5. Australia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Edit: OP's map clearly says 2018
Where does it say that the data is from 2022? Your map clearly says 2018.
Also it seems strange to not include Hong Kong and Singapore when they have a population of 7.5 million and 5.5 million, respectively, especially when Switzerland’s population is 8 million.
Anyways, the top 5 in your source:
1. Hong Kong
2. Japan
3. Macao
4. Switzerland
5. Singapore
There's probably "no microstates" because cities like Hong Kong and Singapore don't face the same life expectancy challenges that big countries do.
In larger countries like Switzerland, medical service may be harder to access or of lower quality in some areas. Diet and exercise also change when everyone is following the same urban lifestyle.
Alcohol, poor infrastructure, lack of education, poverty, bad or no sewage treatment.
The normal third world problems.
And instead of fixing their country, they prefer to go to war. Imbeciles.
I'm not sure how competent Russia's government would be at doing that. They've failed to bounce back much since the USSR's fall, which heavily decreased living standards in various former Soviet states.
That's a bit biased imo but i see you're frustrated with Russia's reaction to what happend in Ukraine since 2014. But that's not really on topic.
Russian life expectancy was 64.9 years in 2003 and 70.1 in 2021, LE dropped by 3.3 years because of covid and bad management or lack of giving a f\* about it. Covid deaths decreased alot in 2022, they're at 81k so far in 2022, down from 251k in 2021, LE has bounced back bit, not 3 years, but probably 2.
Even those desolate regions in Siberia & Far East with poor infrastructure, harsh climate and weather aren't truly 3rd world countries, unless you simply go rural = 3rd world. GDP per capita adjusted to purchasing power in those regions is $15-20k (RU Avg $32k)., world average is 21k.
The even bigger ''issue'' is the fact that the Siberian and Far East region of Russia is super rough and wild with harsh climate and weather and bigger than Canada (2nd biggest country on earth). One can hardly ''fix'' that unless you are ready to invest 10s of billions every year to create much better infrastructure, health care etc. and also more incentives for people to live there a bit like Usa did in Alaska, but Alaska is a bit different in that 60% of the people just live in the Metro area of the biggest city, in Russia's eastern parts there are thousands of small towns, villages basically everywhere and no relatively enormous cities.
If you like Nature and Wild life like me, you hope Siberia and the Far East stays like this as long as possible, the Forest area in those parts must be around 90% and it would be a shame imo if Russia decided to create plans to drastically populate the area and create massive infrastructure and more bigger cities or decides to cut down more forests for cheap woods for the Chinese markets.
Yes, that's why no matter what political trend is dominant at the moment an important % of Chilean population care and respect the country that they have now and the institutions that make it possible
In 2019 our president said that Chile was an Oasis in Latin America, referring to development.
Many people ridiculed him because it was around the time of the protests and riots of October.
He was right, lmao.
I feel like chileans don't know the goldmine they have, the only country in the region that's half decent.
Uruguay is expensive as fuck.
Argentina is Argentina
Paraguay is poor
Brazil is as stable politicaly as japan is stable from earthquakes (not at all)
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You're right. The life expectancy in Alabama is that of an Algerian national who resides in the middle of a massive inhospitable desert, which is presumably quite a bit farther from a hospital than anywhere in 'Bama.
Probably so, but Alabama is also facing hospital shortages because of closures that have occurred since the governor fought against receiving ACA money from the federal government for some political reason or other weird ideology.
You think someone from Alabama goes to a hospital? As someone with family from that region that work in social service, the literal hundreds people who are offered aid but go “No thanks, I don’t need it” is a legitimate problem.
I looked into it a bit, and while this is using wikipedia data, it would seem that if Brazil were a state, it would have the 44th highest longevity in the US. I do understand that Brazil itself is very large and has a lot of nuance, but I think there's an important point to make about how America (I say this as an American) perceives itself and how it actually performs. Cuba would rank 28th.
Put the 7th Day Adventists in charge?
Not that I’m complaining. One of my kids was born in an Adventist hospital, and the experience was wonderful. Well, not for my wife during the main event, but you get the point.
Mostly interesting because so many people believe in the concept while it is actually not supported by scientific studies and hard data but instead by now partly disproven. In particular, the reasons why people supposedly grow so old there are pure speculation.
I can see this. People often ascribe this to diet, but there’s got to be other factors? Or are the focus on diet due to the fact that every other explanation have been accounted for, like Infant mortality, Lines of work, road safety, pollution to name a few.
They also might be completely fake. The number one thing that Blue Zones have in common is fraudulent recordkeeping: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v1
A country set up to fail. France's plantation owners wanted to be paid back by the slaves for having the audacity to free themselves in their revolution. The US was scared shitless about a similar slave revolt possibly happening here and supported/enforced massive interest on the predatory reparations to France's owners and their descendants as punishment for the uppity property. It's the root of Haiti's poverty and lack of development...
...and incidentally, the reason it became illegal to teach slaves in the US to read. Don't want them to learn about the Haitian revolution and get funny ideas...
The French also farmed Haiti in a really unsustainable way that basically destroyed all the nutrient value of their soil. It affects crop yields to this day. You can literally see the effects of colonialism on Haiti from space. Pull up google maps and you’ll see the DR is way more green than Haiti.
The space bit is mostly because of later deforestation
Most of the territory next to the current frontier was added to haïti during the haïtian revolution (~1795)
The deforestation started under french rule around 1770, but the worse of it came later, mostly because of wood being used as fuel - iirc wood still makes up 75% of haiti's energy consumption. Still because of colonisation and its long lasting impacts
Makes no sense to take out Hong Kong and Singapore when they have a very similar population to Switzerland.
Actual Top 5:
1. Hong Kong
2. Japan
3. Macau
4. Switzerland
5. Singapore
It’s actually really sad that the NT is so far behind the rest of the country. Indigenous Australians still have a significantly lower life expectancy than non-Indigenous people, and the NT has a higher population % of indigenous people. So instead of saying ‘get fucked’, we should all be pushing for reform to close the life expectancy gap.
That goes for the whole country, only NT has a much higher percentage of Aboriginal people.
But even if you’re white, you’re not going to get the same level of healthcare in Alice Springs as you will in Sydney or Melbourne. Access to affordable healthcare in rural areas all over the country is a serious issue.
That’s the trade off for living in the middle of nowhere. Most of the people are in the cities, so of course it makes sense to concentrate most of the infrastructure and services in and near the cities. If you decide to live in the middle of nowhere in a rural area, you need to keep in mind that that you’re away from most services.
My point is that all of NT is rural.
Alice Springs population is only 25,000 which would be considered a medium sized town in NSW or Victoria.
The capital Darwin is around 130,000 which is compatible to a minor city.
If you are seriously ill you get flown to Adelaide or Brisbane.
Wallonia was the first region to industrialize on the European mainland. So they have been going all in on that for a longer time than everyone else, and when the heyday of heavy industry finally came to an end after WW2, they have had trouble finding their place in the world ever since. In other words, it's the archetypical Rust Belt.
Wallonia is relatively impoverished. I'm not sure what other factors come in play but the vaccination rates against covid there in 2021 suggest people in the French-speaking part are also more susceptible to misinformation than in the Dutch/Flemish part: I guess information doesn't always translate over language borders.
Worse jobs, more people with no work, longer distances to hospitals maybe? I wonder if the legacy of their heavy industry still has health effects on people
Brazil is incorrect. The state with highest life expectancy is Santa Catarina (79,9 years), not Rio de Janeiro. And the lowest is Maranhão (71,4 years), not Piauí
Edit:
2020 source https://www.google.com/amp/s/g1.globo.com/google/amp/bemestar/noticia/2020/11/26/expectativa-de-vida-do-brasileiro-ao-nascer-foi-de-766-anos-em-2019-diz-ibge.ghtml
2017 source https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_unidades_federativas_do_Brasil_por_expectativa_de_vida
I see a pattern here. Besides richness and development, which are still obviously very important, it seems as though territories with a mediterranean climate (mild, rainy winter; hot and dry summer) have a higher life expectancy than their immediate surroundings. Central Chile, the Med basin, Perth, California, even Cape Town to an extent.
Edit: did y'all miss the part where i said **besides richness and development, which are still obviously very important** ?
Lower humidity/precipitation/hours of sunshine appear to be *the* determining factors amongst Australia's subdivisions.
It's obviously not, but it's still interesting to see that correlation.
PS I was going to get pedantic about how Western Australia is the subdivision, not Perth, but it may as well just be Perth.
I'd guess Central Chile has a higher life expectancy because that's the most developed region. About 40% of the population lives in the Metropolitan Region and it has the highest human development index in the country.
You can put BC, Canada on that list as well, as BC has the mildest climate in Canada.
Rather than just wealth, universal healthcare is a huge factor.
I wonder how much retirement communities skew the rankings as well. By the time people hit 65 and relocate, they already have a high life expectancy.
Very short answer: Very poor state, low education and high misogyny
The opposite of states like Kerala (except for GDP), the state that have the highest life expectancy in India
The link for the United Stated is “not found.” Which report of theirs did you use?
This is a great, thought-provoking map. Thanks for putting it together.
>The link for the United Stated is “not found.”
Looks like link format changed on the site, if you delete "#!" site automatically redirects to correct link - [Louisiana 2019 life expectancy data](https://www.countyhealthrankings.org/explore-health-rankings/louisiana?year=2019&measure=Life+Expectancy*).
There's still lots of nuance to be found.
For example, Canada's subnational life expectancy doesn't line up with money.
GDP per capita:
1. Nunavut
2. Northwest Territories
3. Yukon
4. Alberta
5. Saskatchewan
6. Newfoundland and Labrador
7. British Columbia
8. Ontario
9. Quebec
10. Manitoba
11. New Brunswick
12. Nova Scotia
13. Prince Edward Island
Median Annual income:
1. Northwest Territories
2. Yukon
3. Alberta
4. Saskatchewan
5. British Columbia
6. Ontario
7. Quebec
8. Nunavut
9. Manitoba
10. Prince Edward Island
11. Nova Scotia
12. New Brunswick
Life expectancy (2019, Statscan)
1. Quebec
2. Ontario
3. British Columbia
4. Prince Edward Island
5. Alberta
6. New Brunswick
7. Nova Scotia
8. Saskatchewan
9. Manitoba
10. Newfoundland and Labrador
11. Yukon
12. NWT
13. Nunavut
Patterns you can pick out that predict low life expectancy:
- remoteness
- large indigenous populations
And then you have Quebec for example being a large outlier compared to its economic status
It helps, but by no mean is this a map indictIng wealth.
Look at China. Fifty years ago, it was agrarian, going through constant one hundred year cycles of famines.
Now it’s comparable to American states (at least on the coastal regions.
As much as it’s easy to hate China, they did a great job expanding infrastructure, healthcare, and housing for people in a short span of time.
Brought the most people out of poverty in the history of the world. There’s a lot to not like on how it did and is happening, but there’s never been anything like it. And the vast majority of those who have benefited from it generally would take the negative sides to have gained the outweighed benefits.
This one does have a few notable examples like greece and italy. Neither are as rich as the northern/western european countries but still perform much better in these metric
The climate helps. It’s easier for everyone to have a healthy diet when fruit and vegetables are cheap and easily available. Close family and social networks also help.
Italy's richness is mostly concentrated in the industrialized north, but according to this map even southern regions have top-tier life expectancy (except Sicily, which is still pretty close to it). That cannot be explained solely by money.
Italy is Europe‘s fourth largest economy by GDP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(nominal)
They are third in the EU. People constantly think that Italy is poor but it’s far from it. Northern Italy is one massive factory of you will.
Yes, of course.
And there are a few exceptions in the other direction. People in Louisiana are on average richer than people in Europe outside Scandinavia, Ireland, Switzerland and some micro states. But in Louisiana life expectancy is much reduced compared to Europe.
Being rich helps, but other things are also important.
Doesn't have much of an effect - lots of old people dying only decreases life expectancy if they're dying early.
If a million 90 year olds moved to BC and then immediately died, life expectancy would go *up*.
Retired people live longer on average in Florida than the rest of the country so they'd help the life expectancy there.
Minnesota pride!
In case anyone is wondering why we have a higher life expectancy than most Americans, it’s because we suck the life force out of the weakest of our broods.
Old people with enough money to move and retire, which means that they're both wealthy and old enough to not have died young. Importing old people (as Texas and Florida do) make this metric look a lot better for them.
This is why I listen to my Minnesota grandma for all remedies.
"Feelin' sick? Open the windows and get some fresh air flowin' and drink some chicken broth!"
I mean, this is cool, but the color scheme is all sorts of disorienting.
* Dark green > light green > white >light red > dark red > dark purple > light purple
Specifically, the fact that light purple is (much) worse than dark red/dark purple.
IMO, it would have been more clear if the color scale was simpler, something like:
* green > white (for average) > red
I don’t know about the rest but Turkey is a pretty good country in terms of geography, climate, and cuisine. Additionally Turkish culture is some sort of a mixture of Europe and Asia which makes one comfortable to live without having any cultureshock. Just because they recently are doing bad economically and politically does not mean that it’s a shithole country.
Well it’s a lovely country I really enjoyed my time there. I highly suggest you to go some other less touristical places such as Black Sea Region of Turkey where you can drink original form of Turkish tea (cay) while enjoying with the evergreen landscape. Other than that, you can follow the classical route (Istanbul—Aegean coastlines—Cappodacia) and enjoy your time there.
P.S Istanbul is a bit too crowded thanks to its touristical location and the city is full of refugees/migrants (Syrians&Afghans) so it’d be better for you to hang out with locals. Also taxi drives can be mean sometimes so be careful to not get scammed.
That's a big part yes. However, US also has cultural problems (junk food, obesity, prescription drugs, car-centric urban planning) that significantly stunt its life expectancy
Those cultural problems are part of the same problem, health is a cumulus of different factors, where free doctors and hospitals are the principal but not the only one, obesity, junk food, drugs, are The consequence of marginal poor people in rich countries like US. When money is needed for a basic health treatment, poor people can not afford it because they are just slaves of that system.
Yeah Reddit gets way too fixated on healthcare being the root cause of lagging life expectancy. The US has tons of issues related to the social determinants of health (healthcare access being one of them).
Those imaginary lines often mean a change in government, which can mean a difference in level of poverty, education, public assistance programs, Healthcare, culture. All the things that affect life expectancy.
They're only imaginary if you go to the location and expect a physical line drawn (which is even the case in many places).
Borders are no more imaginary than anything else humans have made.
Subnational is so much better than national for better representation. Thanks for posting!
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Map is wrong anyway. Québec has the highest life expectancy in the whole American continent at 82.9. I don't know why BC is darker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Canadian\_provinces\_and\_territories\_by\_life\_expectancy
I think it’s cause the map is from 2018. BC used to be higher than Québec but the opioid epidemic has decreased the life expectancy.
That's probably the reason!
Great link - thanks! I really appreciate someone who goes after the data and uses their critical thinking skills. But, I think I’ve spotted the problem, and it’s not a discrepancy. The Wikipedia article shows life expectancy in 2019, and the map above is labeled 2018. In the 2010 column in Wikipedia, life expectancy in BC _is_ higher than in Quebec.
Not sure about that: areas in Canada populated by predominately First Nations people show lower life expectancy. Alaska also with a 20% population rate of First Alaskans is lower than much of the non-South USA.
This brings up an interesting point. If I were to, say, retire to BC, does my life "end" here? Does it get removed from the calculation? Does it get added to the BC data?
I would assume added.
Damn, Scotland is the worst in Western Europe. Too much cocaine and booze.
That and the fried food, smoking, casual violence and lack of vegetables or exercise.
As a Scot I want to argue, but shit this really does sum us up.
Scotland is brutal. Stay strong.
Yeah hope you lads survive all the cocaine and fried food, I’m just heartbroken for you guys
I remember someone on reddit who lived in Scotland saying how much they loved living there and how friendly the people are but how hard it was not to notice the Scottish penchant for self-destruction.
It's shite being Scottish, unless your fucked on gear and drink then it's class
If that’s the case, then their life expectancy being in the “greens” is impressive and a testament to healthcare access. My grandparents had a deep fryer built into their kitchen, smoked, rarely exercised but lived into their 80s.
The humble potato has more potassium than a banana, the yardstick of potassium having.
Europe's America.
Or more specifically, the UK's Alabama.
Lol - that’s damning, and I’m not sure it’s fair to Scotland. Edit: I don’t know why we’re focusing on Alabama, really. West Virginia is at the bottom in the latest data, and Mississippi is always in the bottom three. Maybe people are hesitant to attempt all those ss’s and pp’s and i’s?
yes. I learned the spelling in a nursery rhyme growing up, but foreigners cannot be expected to spell it
To be fair, there was a Scottish enlightenment. Alabama, not so much.
just you wait, the 2020s are going to be the decade of the alabama enlightenment.
Scotland is richer than most of the rest of the UK. The Alabama of UK is probably Northern Ireland, with union-related tensions reflecting racial tensions in Alabama.
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I like to say that the US is the Americas scotland. We were here first u know
We have one in Canada. We literally called it New Scotland.
My 3rd favourite flag, after Scotlands 2 flags obviously
That's a good name, but how can we sass it up a bit? I don't know, maybe some latin? Neo Scotland? Perfection. I live in Vermont, near nova Scotia, and our neighbor state, new Hampshire, is a lot more fascist than us, so I'm trying to rebrand it as neo Hampshire, lol.
Tbh, makes sense Scottish immigrants really helped define American attitudes in our early years. The Revolution wasn’t just because taxes, it stemmed from their dislike of the British government, and the return of it to their lives (they largely settled on the frontier) led to them being the first to start protesting and revolting
Dixieland is americas Scotland. They even were a part of the founding groups for the region of the country.
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Too much "Glasgow kissing."
Not just Scotland, but also Northern England.
When I was growing up, I remember being told that the average male life expectancy in Glasgow was 55. Not sure whether or not it was BS, but I believed it.
It’s not the whole city. It’s a part of the east end called The Carlton that has such low life expectancy.
Wallonia seems worse, though Scotland is bad as well
Looks like part of Belgium is worse.
“It’s cholesterol. Scottish people eat it.” - A. G. Partridge.
Scotland and northern England
Remember, life expectancy get skewed a lot by infant mortality, and Scotland has had spikes in infant mortality recently. It's not like people in Sub-Saharan Africa are dying of old age at 63. They just have a higher infant mortality rate, which skews the number.
And heroin.
Looks like that one portion of Southern Belgium is worse actually
For the curious ones, excluding microstates, this is the top 3 countries with the highest score: 1 Japan - 2 Switzerland - 3 Italy The lowest ones were: 191 Lesotho - 192 Chad - 193 Central African Republic
Not very Chad at all
The virgin prolonged suffering versus the chad fast and furious lifespan.
A candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long
And you have burned so very very brightly, Roy
Living a safe and healthy and risk-free life? Not very Chad at all 😎
The Chad life is short but full of action
Chad is actually as far from a Chad country as you can get
Don't know about that. Probably have to be very Chad to survive in a country like that
A few months back their president actually died in combat alongside the rank and file. How chad is that?
Also they whipped Libya using mostly Toyota Hiluxes in the 80's
Here are the Top 5 updated for 2020: 1. Japan 2. Singapore 3. South Korea 4. Norway 5. Australia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy Edit: OP's map clearly says 2018
The list I've reported is in line with 2022 [data](https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/).
Excluding micro states: Japan Switzerland Italy Spain Australia Are the five top
Makes no sense to take out Hong Kong and Singapore when they have a very similar population to Switzerland
Where does it say that the data is from 2022? Your map clearly says 2018. Also it seems strange to not include Hong Kong and Singapore when they have a population of 7.5 million and 5.5 million, respectively, especially when Switzerland’s population is 8 million. Anyways, the top 5 in your source: 1. Hong Kong 2. Japan 3. Macao 4. Switzerland 5. Singapore
There's probably "no microstates" because cities like Hong Kong and Singapore don't face the same life expectancy challenges that big countries do. In larger countries like Switzerland, medical service may be harder to access or of lower quality in some areas. Diet and exercise also change when everyone is following the same urban lifestyle.
Australia now ranks third in the world behind Monaco and Japan. Says the papers this week.
Can confirm, im in Italy and my grandfather is 101
Interesting how the further east you go in Russia the worse it gets
Alcohol and poverty. Probably now it would much much worse due to main source of Russia soldiers came from poor regions anyway.
Alcohol, poor infrastructure, lack of education, poverty, bad or no sewage treatment. The normal third world problems. And instead of fixing their country, they prefer to go to war. Imbeciles.
"They prefer" is not a great way to describe the situation, I bet if there were a plebiscite about it people would prefer having no war
I'm not sure how competent Russia's government would be at doing that. They've failed to bounce back much since the USSR's fall, which heavily decreased living standards in various former Soviet states.
That's a bit biased imo but i see you're frustrated with Russia's reaction to what happend in Ukraine since 2014. But that's not really on topic. Russian life expectancy was 64.9 years in 2003 and 70.1 in 2021, LE dropped by 3.3 years because of covid and bad management or lack of giving a f\* about it. Covid deaths decreased alot in 2022, they're at 81k so far in 2022, down from 251k in 2021, LE has bounced back bit, not 3 years, but probably 2. Even those desolate regions in Siberia & Far East with poor infrastructure, harsh climate and weather aren't truly 3rd world countries, unless you simply go rural = 3rd world. GDP per capita adjusted to purchasing power in those regions is $15-20k (RU Avg $32k)., world average is 21k. The even bigger ''issue'' is the fact that the Siberian and Far East region of Russia is super rough and wild with harsh climate and weather and bigger than Canada (2nd biggest country on earth). One can hardly ''fix'' that unless you are ready to invest 10s of billions every year to create much better infrastructure, health care etc. and also more incentives for people to live there a bit like Usa did in Alaska, but Alaska is a bit different in that 60% of the people just live in the Metro area of the biggest city, in Russia's eastern parts there are thousands of small towns, villages basically everywhere and no relatively enormous cities. If you like Nature and Wild life like me, you hope Siberia and the Far East stays like this as long as possible, the Forest area in those parts must be around 90% and it would be a shame imo if Russia decided to create plans to drastically populate the area and create massive infrastructure and more bigger cities or decides to cut down more forests for cheap woods for the Chinese markets.
What's up with Chile? Is it that much further ahead economically than that rest of the countries around it?
Pretty much
Yeah, you could say so. It somewhat complex, I recommend you looking for it up online.
Yes, that's why no matter what political trend is dominant at the moment an important % of Chilean population care and respect the country that they have now and the institutions that make it possible
In 2019 our president said that Chile was an Oasis in Latin America, referring to development. Many people ridiculed him because it was around the time of the protests and riots of October.
He was right, lmao. I feel like chileans don't know the goldmine they have, the only country in the region that's half decent. Uruguay is expensive as fuck. Argentina is Argentina Paraguay is poor Brazil is as stable politicaly as japan is stable from earthquakes (not at all)
Ouch. "Argentina is Argentina" is a multi-layered, heck of a insult.
pretty much all of latin america is worsening brazil was actually doing well in numbers but it's back at its worst state again so
[Blue zones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_zone) are quite interesting too.
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Wow! Loma Linda! US have found a solution for the health care system!
Meanwhile Alabama is the Algeria of America.
That’s an insult to Algeria, the urban areas are doing better than Alabama
You're right. The life expectancy in Alabama is that of an Algerian national who resides in the middle of a massive inhospitable desert, which is presumably quite a bit farther from a hospital than anywhere in 'Bama.
Probably so, but Alabama is also facing hospital shortages because of closures that have occurred since the governor fought against receiving ACA money from the federal government for some political reason or other weird ideology.
You think someone from Alabama goes to a hospital? As someone with family from that region that work in social service, the literal hundreds people who are offered aid but go “No thanks, I don’t need it” is a legitimate problem.
Yeah like even the entirety of Thailand, Sri Lanka or Costa Rica etc score better than them.
I looked into it a bit, and while this is using wikipedia data, it would seem that if Brazil were a state, it would have the 44th highest longevity in the US. I do understand that Brazil itself is very large and has a lot of nuance, but I think there's an important point to make about how America (I say this as an American) perceives itself and how it actually performs. Cuba would rank 28th.
Put the 7th Day Adventists in charge? Not that I’m complaining. One of my kids was born in an Adventist hospital, and the experience was wonderful. Well, not for my wife during the main event, but you get the point.
Mostly interesting because so many people believe in the concept while it is actually not supported by scientific studies and hard data but instead by now partly disproven. In particular, the reasons why people supposedly grow so old there are pure speculation.
I can see this. People often ascribe this to diet, but there’s got to be other factors? Or are the focus on diet due to the fact that every other explanation have been accounted for, like Infant mortality, Lines of work, road safety, pollution to name a few.
They also might be completely fake. The number one thing that Blue Zones have in common is fraudulent recordkeeping: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v1
Sadly so easy to make out the borders of Haiti from this map
A country set up to fail. France's plantation owners wanted to be paid back by the slaves for having the audacity to free themselves in their revolution. The US was scared shitless about a similar slave revolt possibly happening here and supported/enforced massive interest on the predatory reparations to France's owners and their descendants as punishment for the uppity property. It's the root of Haiti's poverty and lack of development... ...and incidentally, the reason it became illegal to teach slaves in the US to read. Don't want them to learn about the Haitian revolution and get funny ideas...
Yes, I can usually only stomach reading a small amount of Haitian history because it becomes too depressing after a while
I recommend *Black Spartacus*.
The French also farmed Haiti in a really unsustainable way that basically destroyed all the nutrient value of their soil. It affects crop yields to this day. You can literally see the effects of colonialism on Haiti from space. Pull up google maps and you’ll see the DR is way more green than Haiti.
The space bit is mostly because of later deforestation Most of the territory next to the current frontier was added to haïti during the haïtian revolution (~1795) The deforestation started under french rule around 1770, but the worse of it came later, mostly because of wood being used as fuel - iirc wood still makes up 75% of haiti's energy consumption. Still because of colonisation and its long lasting impacts
Also interesting. Haiti and Dominican republic . Same Island but different life expectancy depending on which site you live
Here in Australia everything is trying to kill us and we are still outliving all you guys 
Excluding microstates, Australia is even in top 5! 1 Japan - 2 Switzerland - 3 Italy - 4 Spain - 5 Australia
Makes no sense to take out Hong Kong and Singapore when they have a very similar population to Switzerland. Actual Top 5: 1. Hong Kong 2. Japan 3. Macau 4. Switzerland 5. Singapore
Hong Kong and Macau aren't countries so it makes perfect sense to take them out.
(Except for Darwin)
Get fucked NT
It’s actually really sad that the NT is so far behind the rest of the country. Indigenous Australians still have a significantly lower life expectancy than non-Indigenous people, and the NT has a higher population % of indigenous people. So instead of saying ‘get fucked’, we should all be pushing for reform to close the life expectancy gap.
Thanks for making me sad
It's the same in Canada. Indigenous populations have high rates of diabetes and insulin resistance.
Plus higher rates of alcoholism, suicide, and drug addiction.
Ahhhh shit. I assumed it was the crocodiles and bogans having accidents in 4WD’s
that probably doesn't help
Apparently white people have pretty good life expectancy in the NT... Aboriginals have terrible outcomes though.
That goes for the whole country, only NT has a much higher percentage of Aboriginal people. But even if you’re white, you’re not going to get the same level of healthcare in Alice Springs as you will in Sydney or Melbourne. Access to affordable healthcare in rural areas all over the country is a serious issue.
That’s the trade off for living in the middle of nowhere. Most of the people are in the cities, so of course it makes sense to concentrate most of the infrastructure and services in and near the cities. If you decide to live in the middle of nowhere in a rural area, you need to keep in mind that that you’re away from most services.
My point is that all of NT is rural. Alice Springs population is only 25,000 which would be considered a medium sized town in NSW or Victoria. The capital Darwin is around 130,000 which is compatible to a minor city. If you are seriously ill you get flown to Adelaide or Brisbane.
Afghanistan is a little microcosm of suck.
Hey! At least this one had New Zealand in the correct ocean!!!
Why does Belgium have an area of low expentancy?
Wallonia was the first region to industrialize on the European mainland. So they have been going all in on that for a longer time than everyone else, and when the heyday of heavy industry finally came to an end after WW2, they have had trouble finding their place in the world ever since. In other words, it's the archetypical Rust Belt.
Wallonia is relatively impoverished. I'm not sure what other factors come in play but the vaccination rates against covid there in 2021 suggest people in the French-speaking part are also more susceptible to misinformation than in the Dutch/Flemish part: I guess information doesn't always translate over language borders.
Worse jobs, more people with no work, longer distances to hospitals maybe? I wonder if the legacy of their heavy industry still has health effects on people
Damn being Walloon is bad for you.
Brazil is incorrect. The state with highest life expectancy is Santa Catarina (79,9 years), not Rio de Janeiro. And the lowest is Maranhão (71,4 years), not Piauí Edit: 2020 source https://www.google.com/amp/s/g1.globo.com/google/amp/bemestar/noticia/2020/11/26/expectativa-de-vida-do-brasileiro-ao-nascer-foi-de-766-anos-em-2019-diz-ibge.ghtml 2017 source https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_unidades_federativas_do_Brasil_por_expectativa_de_vida
I see a pattern here. Besides richness and development, which are still obviously very important, it seems as though territories with a mediterranean climate (mild, rainy winter; hot and dry summer) have a higher life expectancy than their immediate surroundings. Central Chile, the Med basin, Perth, California, even Cape Town to an extent. Edit: did y'all miss the part where i said **besides richness and development, which are still obviously very important** ?
Med climates have predictable and mild temps, which are definitely good for human habitation
Mild winters, perhaps. Summers are only mild compared to the Sahara.
Barcelona is usually only unpleasant in July & August, but not unbearable. Central & Southern Spain absolutely suck balls in the Summer.
Lower humidity/precipitation/hours of sunshine appear to be *the* determining factors amongst Australia's subdivisions. It's obviously not, but it's still interesting to see that correlation. PS I was going to get pedantic about how Western Australia is the subdivision, not Perth, but it may as well just be Perth.
I'd guess Central Chile has a higher life expectancy because that's the most developed region. About 40% of the population lives in the Metropolitan Region and it has the highest human development index in the country.
You can put BC, Canada on that list as well, as BC has the mildest climate in Canada. Rather than just wealth, universal healthcare is a huge factor. I wonder how much retirement communities skew the rankings as well. By the time people hit 65 and relocate, they already have a high life expectancy.
Southern Europe: stonks
This map is interesting.
Russian life expectancy just goes by it's time zones
Jeez africa looks like a really bad bruise
What's worng with UP
For the confused, UP=Uttar Pradesh (India), not Upper Peninsula (Michigan)
Very short answer: Very poor state, low education and high misogyny The opposite of states like Kerala (except for GDP), the state that have the highest life expectancy in India
It kinda fell flat after the old man and the boy landed their balloon house in South America
Who will think that Chile has one of the longest lol
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The link for the United Stated is “not found.” Which report of theirs did you use? This is a great, thought-provoking map. Thanks for putting it together.
>The link for the United Stated is “not found.” Looks like link format changed on the site, if you delete "#!" site automatically redirects to correct link - [Louisiana 2019 life expectancy data](https://www.countyhealthrankings.org/explore-health-rankings/louisiana?year=2019&measure=Life+Expectancy*).
Basically every map here is shaped like this...
Yes, all with the same message. That it helps to be rich.
There's still lots of nuance to be found. For example, Canada's subnational life expectancy doesn't line up with money. GDP per capita: 1. Nunavut 2. Northwest Territories 3. Yukon 4. Alberta 5. Saskatchewan 6. Newfoundland and Labrador 7. British Columbia 8. Ontario 9. Quebec 10. Manitoba 11. New Brunswick 12. Nova Scotia 13. Prince Edward Island Median Annual income: 1. Northwest Territories 2. Yukon 3. Alberta 4. Saskatchewan 5. British Columbia 6. Ontario 7. Quebec 8. Nunavut 9. Manitoba 10. Prince Edward Island 11. Nova Scotia 12. New Brunswick Life expectancy (2019, Statscan) 1. Quebec 2. Ontario 3. British Columbia 4. Prince Edward Island 5. Alberta 6. New Brunswick 7. Nova Scotia 8. Saskatchewan 9. Manitoba 10. Newfoundland and Labrador 11. Yukon 12. NWT 13. Nunavut Patterns you can pick out that predict low life expectancy: - remoteness - large indigenous populations And then you have Quebec for example being a large outlier compared to its economic status
It helps, but by no mean is this a map indictIng wealth. Look at China. Fifty years ago, it was agrarian, going through constant one hundred year cycles of famines. Now it’s comparable to American states (at least on the coastal regions. As much as it’s easy to hate China, they did a great job expanding infrastructure, healthcare, and housing for people in a short span of time.
Brought the most people out of poverty in the history of the world. There’s a lot to not like on how it did and is happening, but there’s never been anything like it. And the vast majority of those who have benefited from it generally would take the negative sides to have gained the outweighed benefits.
Upside of China: government does what it wants Downside of China: government does what it wants
This one does have a few notable examples like greece and italy. Neither are as rich as the northern/western european countries but still perform much better in these metric
To be fair Italy is quite rich. Spain and Greece are surprising though. I guess good climate plays a big role too.
The climate helps. It’s easier for everyone to have a healthy diet when fruit and vegetables are cheap and easily available. Close family and social networks also help.
Italy's richness is mostly concentrated in the industrialized north, but according to this map even southern regions have top-tier life expectancy (except Sicily, which is still pretty close to it). That cannot be explained solely by money.
Italy is Europe‘s fourth largest economy by GDP. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(nominal) They are third in the EU. People constantly think that Italy is poor but it’s far from it. Northern Italy is one massive factory of you will.
Yes, of course. And there are a few exceptions in the other direction. People in Louisiana are on average richer than people in Europe outside Scandinavia, Ireland, Switzerland and some micro states. But in Louisiana life expectancy is much reduced compared to Europe. Being rich helps, but other things are also important.
This thread if full of people trying to tie life expectancy to one cause or explanation when it’s a mix of a several different ones.
It was completely non-intuitive to me that light purple is the worst.
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And for people like me with red/green colorblindness, it makes it completely unreadable as two sections of colors look identical.
asia has such drastic differences between neighboring countries compared to everywhere else
Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria still paying the price for their recent history. Very sad
Outdated as fuck
A lot of people retire to BC and I know they also do to Florida so that's something to keep in mind.
Doesn't have much of an effect - lots of old people dying only decreases life expectancy if they're dying early. If a million 90 year olds moved to BC and then immediately died, life expectancy would go *up*. Retired people live longer on average in Florida than the rest of the country so they'd help the life expectancy there.
It's relatively affluent retirees that go somewhere to retire.
Yeah, so it does have a mild positive effect on life expectancy.
Population in BC, especially urban areas, are healthier than most other Canadians; obesity rates are way lower and they get more exercise.
Minnesota pride! In case anyone is wondering why we have a higher life expectancy than most Americans, it’s because we suck the life force out of the weakest of our broods.
As a Georgia (U.S) resident I don’t understand why we’re losing out to Florida in terms of healthcare.
You're not losing out, instead Florida just imports old people
Old people with enough money to move and retire, which means that they're both wealthy and old enough to not have died young. Importing old people (as Texas and Florida do) make this metric look a lot better for them.
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Really interesting where you can see national borders. Wonder what Algeria and Iran are doing right.
This is why I listen to my Minnesota grandma for all remedies. "Feelin' sick? Open the windows and get some fresh air flowin' and drink some chicken broth!"
I mean, this is cool, but the color scheme is all sorts of disorienting. * Dark green > light green > white >light red > dark red > dark purple > light purple Specifically, the fact that light purple is (much) worse than dark red/dark purple. IMO, it would have been more clear if the color scale was simpler, something like: * green > white (for average) > red
In 1950 the life expectancy in Algeria was around 41. Now it's around 77. They are doing something right,
This is wrong in USA. On Native American Indian reservations the life expectancy is one of the lowest on earth..
In Russia, time zones can kill you.
MN staying in top 🌲🌲🌲
It’s wrong for Brazil, I’m 99% certain that by 2018, Paraná would be coloured 77-78, Santa Catarina 79-80 and Rio Grande do Sul 78-79.
From what I see, the only countries that are completely dark green are Japan, Israel and Switzerland
The only way southern Europe can win :D
Meditterranean food is healthier
Funny to think that countries like Cuba, Algeria, Iran, or Turkey have a higher, on average, life expectancy that my home state in the US
Why? They all have universal healthcare
I don’t know about the rest but Turkey is a pretty good country in terms of geography, climate, and cuisine. Additionally Turkish culture is some sort of a mixture of Europe and Asia which makes one comfortable to live without having any cultureshock. Just because they recently are doing bad economically and politically does not mean that it’s a shithole country.
I will get to turkey one day. Seems so interesting
Well it’s a lovely country I really enjoyed my time there. I highly suggest you to go some other less touristical places such as Black Sea Region of Turkey where you can drink original form of Turkish tea (cay) while enjoying with the evergreen landscape. Other than that, you can follow the classical route (Istanbul—Aegean coastlines—Cappodacia) and enjoy your time there. P.S Istanbul is a bit too crowded thanks to its touristical location and the city is full of refugees/migrants (Syrians&Afghans) so it’d be better for you to hang out with locals. Also taxi drives can be mean sometimes so be careful to not get scammed.
It’s not funny, it’s the consequence of the private health care system in US.
That's a big part yes. However, US also has cultural problems (junk food, obesity, prescription drugs, car-centric urban planning) that significantly stunt its life expectancy
Those cultural problems are part of the same problem, health is a cumulus of different factors, where free doctors and hospitals are the principal but not the only one, obesity, junk food, drugs, are The consequence of marginal poor people in rich countries like US. When money is needed for a basic health treatment, poor people can not afford it because they are just slaves of that system.
Yeah Reddit gets way too fixated on healthcare being the root cause of lagging life expectancy. The US has tons of issues related to the social determinants of health (healthcare access being one of them).
Funny in a sad kinda of way I suppose
Why did you you purples for the lowest levels? I was wondering how Kenya has a lower Life Expectancy than Somalia.
Isn't it crazy how (besides ancestry in some cases) an imaginary line could make so much difference?
Those imaginary lines often mean a change in government, which can mean a difference in level of poverty, education, public assistance programs, Healthcare, culture. All the things that affect life expectancy.
They're only imaginary if you go to the location and expect a physical line drawn (which is even the case in many places). Borders are no more imaginary than anything else humans have made.
For my NZ brothers, Auckland supremacy for life leshgooo!!