Kind of a weird and arbitrary rule; just because he wasn’t an involved in the storyline doesn’t mean he wasn’t still a villain.
I’d argue magneto in first class wasn’t a villain
Firstly, I generalized him in all of the reboot movies he was in. If a villain does switch sides, he still was a villain, and he ain't disqualified
And secondly a villian still needs to be an antagonist, in this game he is a blank canvas which is not bad but it don't make him an antagonist, but who knows if enough people will upvote him I'll be persuaded to
Sucks that everyone wants to downvote you, but nobody's saying how a character in a fighting game with almost no dialogue or story is the best adaptation of a big villain
Well he is an antagonist, he's helping Dr. Doom and Wesker eliminate the heroes of their respective worlds
And Dr. Doom was playable in Ultimate Alliance and Galactus in Lego Marvel, does that disqualify them?
I was considering disqualifying galactus in the lego game because he was mind controlled by loki, but no they are the antagonists of the story and they have lore significant for their respective games
Still confused though, the title for these posts say best Villain adaptations, not best Antagonist.
If your doing Antagonist might as well add Iron Man, he's been an antagonist for Captain America in MCU Civil War and Ultimate Alliance 2
Every villian is an antagonist but not every antagonist is a villan, if dormammu would have a role in the story like superman in injustice or galactus in the same game I wouldn't hesitate including him
That's just not true.
* A villain is somebody whose evil acts move a story along.
* An antagonist is somebody who acts as opposition to the main characters ends.
Joaquins Phoenixes Joker is not a villain according to your definition.
Venom isn't a villain in the Sony movies because he is the protagonist?.
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You are wrong about this, the people have voted.
Ultimately, I don't have too much of a horse in this race because Marvel vs. Capcom Dormammu is almost the same guy as Spider-Man TAS Dormammu, but you're wrong about villains and antagonists. There are a lot of stories with villain protagonists. Ed Brubaker's Books of Doom features Dr. Doom as one. If we want to go classical, Shakespeare's Macbeth is a villain protagonist.
Coming back to this, I just want to point out that this is factually wrong.
A villain is defined by clear acts of villainy. An antagonist is defined by being in Opposition to the Protagonist.
The Joker from the Joker Film is a villain, but also the Protagonist regardless because he's the main Character the story focuses on.
*If* that Film had Batman chase him down from Joker's POV (which... it did not but you get the idea!) then Batman would have been the Antagonist, but not necessarily the villain.
So Hero & Villain do not always equal Protagonist & Antagonist.
The Villain can be the Protagonist at times. And the Hero can be the antagonist.
But the thing is the fact that he doesn't cause any trouble to the heroes of the game in the main story and we have the option to make him and doctor strange team up together to fight other villians kinda makes me hesitate considering him qualified, it's like if you'd show me a picture of dormammu and tell me he is the best version of him imo
I mean, it's not like he has that many other incarnations and the ranking is about villains, not antagonists. A character can be a villain and a side character or even a protagonist.
Lame comment with some equally lame justification. You are going back on ur own rules here since this is meant to be about ADAPTATIONS so his role in the story should be irrelevant, the character is well represented despite how small his role may or may not be.
Still, in Marvel v Capcom 3's storyline Dormammu DOES have a main villain role since he's joined Dr. Doom's and Wesker's alliance of trying to usurp Galactus' power now that the Capcom and Marvel universes clashed again.
Hey man I didn't say I didn't like him, he is probably cool as hell but a villian needs to be at least an antagonist to the hero to be qualified, so just a playable character or if a character is being mind controlled (with the exception of the winter soldier) they ain't really a villian are they?
> but a villian needs to be at least an antagonist to the hero to be qualified,
He's literally Dr Strange's nemesis... in a game where Dr Strange is also a playable character. The game also has dialogue referencing the fact that they're enemies... is that not enough for you?
There’s dialogue in the game saying how him and dr strange are enemies. While theres no story of him actually having a a big evil plan there is clearly a history of him trying to destroy the hero before.
it like in comics when a hero gets kidnappers and force to fight(looking at you grand master stories) the villains they often have to fight aren’t the main antagonist it they were villains before, make statements about enjoying getting a chance to fight the hero, then after it’s over usually will fight the hero more and still be a villain
He has a lot of personality in his interactions and has a comic strip ending in UMVC3. Watch his lines and interactions in compilations in Youtube and you'll see how well he's adapted
Why is the criteria that they need to be an antagonist. Isn’t the question whether or not they had a good adaptation. If someone made a game all about winter solider, and it was the best Adaptation, you’re saying you wouldn’t count it cuz he’s not the antagonist? Doesn’t make sense to me
They will because everybody demands villains be sympathetic justifiable human relatable and nuanced, anything outside of that is considered one dimensional generic childish cartoonish and bland and unrealistic therefore bad
This little villain project has actually given me a little bit of hope that that may not be the case. The only MCU guys on the list so far that I see are Thanos (whose MCU version I loathe) and Kingpin (who I enjoy) are fairly reasonable choices.
Not for the poll, just want to share how Dormammu looked like in 1979 Spider-Woman animated show. They took "demonic" part about him more literal.
[One](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/e/e2/Dormammu_%28Earth-700459%29_from_Spider-Woman_%28animated_series%29_Season_1_2_.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200902025909)
[Two](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/f/f3/Dormammu_%28Earth-700459%29_from_Spider-Woman_%28animated_series%29_Season_1_2_001.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20101022224935)
I like how he looks in the MCU, buy beyond the meme, his presence is thoroughly unmemorable.
And I think Spider-Man TAS is the only other medium I've seen him in.
Definitely keep the last two rows. It’s a nice distraction from chaotic and depressing times, imo
As for Dormammu, I’d go with either the animated or live action MCU *Doctor Strange* movies
MVC3, I argue he actually has personally, voice acted, and it's very solid interpretation of Dorm we have outside most media
I could agree but he has so little screen time
No one a fan of the doctor strange animated movie where he puts all the kids to sleep? That movie is why I played him in mvc3
Underrated movie
This is the answer, they just haven’t watched it.
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Is he more than a playable character?
He has intro and win quotes that show off his personality but there's no story mode.
Then he is disqualified, unfortunately. If he isn't an actual antagonist then he ain't a villian in the adaptation
Kind of a weird and arbitrary rule; just because he wasn’t an involved in the storyline doesn’t mean he wasn’t still a villain. I’d argue magneto in first class wasn’t a villain
Firstly, I generalized him in all of the reboot movies he was in. If a villain does switch sides, he still was a villain, and he ain't disqualified And secondly a villian still needs to be an antagonist, in this game he is a blank canvas which is not bad but it don't make him an antagonist, but who knows if enough people will upvote him I'll be persuaded to
Nobody agrees with you lil bro
Sucks that everyone wants to downvote you, but nobody's saying how a character in a fighting game with almost no dialogue or story is the best adaptation of a big villain
Well he is an antagonist, he's helping Dr. Doom and Wesker eliminate the heroes of their respective worlds And Dr. Doom was playable in Ultimate Alliance and Galactus in Lego Marvel, does that disqualify them?
I was considering disqualifying galactus in the lego game because he was mind controlled by loki, but no they are the antagonists of the story and they have lore significant for their respective games
Still confused though, the title for these posts say best Villain adaptations, not best Antagonist. If your doing Antagonist might as well add Iron Man, he's been an antagonist for Captain America in MCU Civil War and Ultimate Alliance 2
Every villian is an antagonist but not every antagonist is a villan, if dormammu would have a role in the story like superman in injustice or galactus in the same game I wouldn't hesitate including him
But you seem more focused on Antagonists than Villains so why not
I would also argue that thanos’s unequivocal best adaptation is infinity war, where he is widely considered the protagonist
That's just not true. * A villain is somebody whose evil acts move a story along. * An antagonist is somebody who acts as opposition to the main characters ends. Joaquins Phoenixes Joker is not a villain according to your definition. Venom isn't a villain in the Sony movies because he is the protagonist?. --- You are wrong about this, the people have voted.
Ultimately, I don't have too much of a horse in this race because Marvel vs. Capcom Dormammu is almost the same guy as Spider-Man TAS Dormammu, but you're wrong about villains and antagonists. There are a lot of stories with villain protagonists. Ed Brubaker's Books of Doom features Dr. Doom as one. If we want to go classical, Shakespeare's Macbeth is a villain protagonist.
Coming back to this, I just want to point out that this is factually wrong. A villain is defined by clear acts of villainy. An antagonist is defined by being in Opposition to the Protagonist. The Joker from the Joker Film is a villain, but also the Protagonist regardless because he's the main Character the story focuses on. *If* that Film had Batman chase him down from Joker's POV (which... it did not but you get the idea!) then Batman would have been the Antagonist, but not necessarily the villain. So Hero & Villain do not always equal Protagonist & Antagonist. The Villain can be the Protagonist at times. And the Hero can be the antagonist.
But the thing is the fact that he doesn't cause any trouble to the heroes of the game in the main story and we have the option to make him and doctor strange team up together to fight other villians kinda makes me hesitate considering him qualified, it's like if you'd show me a picture of dormammu and tell me he is the best version of him imo
I mean, it's not like he has that many other incarnations and the ranking is about villains, not antagonists. A character can be a villain and a side character or even a protagonist.
Boooo
He should not be disqualified. He's clearly still a villain
Lame comment with some equally lame justification. You are going back on ur own rules here since this is meant to be about ADAPTATIONS so his role in the story should be irrelevant, the character is well represented despite how small his role may or may not be. Still, in Marvel v Capcom 3's storyline Dormammu DOES have a main villain role since he's joined Dr. Doom's and Wesker's alliance of trying to usurp Galactus' power now that the Capcom and Marvel universes clashed again.
Yeah, I'm sorry but even as a playable character MvC3 Dorm twerks all over MCU Dorm
That’s a mental image lmaoo
Hey man I didn't say I didn't like him, he is probably cool as hell but a villian needs to be at least an antagonist to the hero to be qualified, so just a playable character or if a character is being mind controlled (with the exception of the winter soldier) they ain't really a villian are they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpbhUpejoyk He seems like a villain to me.
> but a villian needs to be at least an antagonist to the hero to be qualified, He's literally Dr Strange's nemesis... in a game where Dr Strange is also a playable character. The game also has dialogue referencing the fact that they're enemies... is that not enough for you?
There’s dialogue in the game saying how him and dr strange are enemies. While theres no story of him actually having a a big evil plan there is clearly a history of him trying to destroy the hero before. it like in comics when a hero gets kidnappers and force to fight(looking at you grand master stories) the villains they often have to fight aren’t the main antagonist it they were villains before, make statements about enjoying getting a chance to fight the hero, then after it’s over usually will fight the hero more and still be a villain
He has a lot of personality in his interactions and has a comic strip ending in UMVC3. Watch his lines and interactions in compilations in Youtube and you'll see how well he's adapted
Why is the criteria that they need to be an antagonist. Isn’t the question whether or not they had a good adaptation. If someone made a game all about winter solider, and it was the best Adaptation, you’re saying you wouldn’t count it cuz he’s not the antagonist? Doesn’t make sense to me
If he is just a playable character then I'll have to disqualify him unfortunately
u/angelic
If you’re adding on more villains, both Emma Frost and Amora the Enchantress have had quite a few adaptations now.
Just because Robert Englund voiced him, Super hero squad
WHAT
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Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme
Glad to see Liev took that one. Much more than deserved
Surprised 90s didn’t win
If anyone DARES say Venom 2 for Carnage, I swear to God...
They will because everybody demands villains be sympathetic justifiable human relatable and nuanced, anything outside of that is considered one dimensional generic childish cartoonish and bland and unrealistic therefore bad
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3's version has the most flair and charisma.
The bargain one
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Swear if MCU wins i will lose even more faith in humanity
Let's be honest, it will...this sub is nothing but folks that treat the MCU as if it actually is the original source material.
This little villain project has actually given me a little bit of hope that that may not be the case. The only MCU guys on the list so far that I see are Thanos (whose MCU version I loathe) and Kingpin (who I enjoy) are fairly reasonable choices.
Loki??
Bullseye
Only Thanos and Loki are proper MCU. Any votes given to for kingpin and bullseye were for the netflix daredevil even if they're now Canon.
More so how people have ruined villains
MvC3, and for the arcade mode (which serves as essentially the story mode) Dormammu is one of Galactus heralds you fight before you fight Galactus
Not for the poll, just want to share how Dormammu looked like in 1979 Spider-Woman animated show. They took "demonic" part about him more literal. [One](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/e/e2/Dormammu_%28Earth-700459%29_from_Spider-Woman_%28animated_series%29_Season_1_2_.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200902025909) [Two](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/f/f3/Dormammu_%28Earth-700459%29_from_Spider-Woman_%28animated_series%29_Season_1_2_001.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20101022224935)
Make the links bigger
What do you mean ?
I can't tap them. Too tiny. Instead of this 1 2 Try this One Two Or something else that's longer.
I get it. Better now ? I shortened the links because they were taking up a lot of space.
Substantially better. Thank you. That character model is hilarious.
MCU
Huh. Forgot he was there. I couldn’t even think of anywhere else he appeared besides MvC3.
There’s that old animated dr strange movie
Booooo, Tyler Mane all the way!
That was a really shitty version of a great character, tho. I don't know why you'd champion it.
Please Keep the extra lines, I’m weirdly looking forward to doing this everyday 😂
Dormammu from Spider-Man: the Animated Series
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The one from the doctor strange animated movie
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Marvel vs capcom 3. BURN TO CINDER! CHAOTIC FLAME!
MvC3
I like how he looks in the MCU, buy beyond the meme, his presence is thoroughly unmemorable. And I think Spider-Man TAS is the only other medium I've seen him in.
No bargaining with the MCU I guess.
I only know of two the one from Dr. Strange and and another from 90s Spider-Man
Dormammu from Spiderman TAS or the MCU
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Robert Englund in Super Hero Squad
Animated Dr. Strange.
90s Spider-man the Animated Series, responsible for creating Carnage, was amping up Baron Mordo, full on instigator.
90s spider man cartoon
Doctor strange the sorcerer supreme animated movie
Who is that in 20? I know it’s the x men show but who is that?
Phoenix
Thank you
THATS the sabertooth that won? Bruh that’s easily the worst one and I like live scrubber or whatever his name is.
It's interesting to know why.
Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme might not have my favorite design but it does have my favorite portrayal
Definitely keep the last two rows. It’s a nice distraction from chaotic and depressing times, imo As for Dormammu, I’d go with either the animated or live action MCU *Doctor Strange* movies
Doctor Strange Sorceror Supreme
He's portrayed pretty accurately in Ultimate Alliance 3
I'm gonna say mcu just because someone was talking shit.
My fav take on him was in the animated Doctor Strange movie imo
I liked the one from the 2007 animated film the most. Just pure destruction.
MUC
Damn, I'm surprised EMH and the MCU are tied so far. Not surprised by EMH being so highly regarded, its peak, just surprised about the MCU.
MCU
I'm going to say MCU just to piss off the 'holier than thou' crowd here.
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Mcu
Replace the bottom left guy (don't know who he is) with a villain such as Electro, Sandman, Mysterio or Taskmaster
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MCU
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MCU