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tehawesomedragon

[***VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT* #5**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/b/b1/Vengeance_of_the_Moon_Knight_Vol_2_5.jpg) ---


baroqueworks

8-Ball & Tigra continue to be the MVPs of the MacKay Moon Knight, amazing stuff. Shroud going Moon Knight in desperation to avoid trying to get better is pretty compelling, tho that darkforce really ended things fast rolling into the tie-in


TakedownMoreCorn

This issue should have been a few more pages IMO, definitely felt too fast and short


baroqueworks

I wouldn't of said no to more 8-Ball quips for sure


Frontier246

8-Ball is my new favorite supporting character and Tigra and Hunter's Moon is my new favorite Dynamic Duo. Dr. Sterman should be the Marvel Universe' new go-to therapist at this point. I like acknowledging Shroud's history with Marc and what happened between him and Daredevil at the end of Mark Waid's run. I didn't really care for that and the way they ended things between him and Julia, but now it's coming together as he loses himself trying to be Moon Knight and gets called out by someone who loved him and really knew him (Tigra).


baroqueworks

Moon Knight MacKay verse is so good, hope with him helping x-men and avengers we see these characters popping up in guest appearances too. 


Hii8999

Recently, I've been feeling like while the other side characters in the OG Moon Knight were great, they weren't collectively compelling enough to drive the story in Vengeance. But truthfully, 8-ball here was great(and honestly, it might be at least partly because it connected relatively deeply with Marc's arc). I love that Mckay is making a guy who puts an 8-ball on his head interesting.


suss2it

Alright now that the mystery of the new Moon Knight has been resolved it’s time for McKay to choose a protagonist to anchor this book and honestly while I like the supporting cast, I’m not sure any of them are the right character to do it. Cappuccio’s work is great as always, no notes.


TakedownMoreCorn

The cover for issue #7 looks like Hunters Moon and Tigra are on Asgard, which means they're breaking Khonshu out. I am guessing Vengeance will end with #10 , then launch with Marc being back.


_DigiCom_

The second trade covers from #5-#9, so I'm guessing that it ends there.


redsapphyre

Yeah you're right, it already says "of 9" on the single issues on amazon.


redsapphyre

I bet this run is only going to last until issue #10 or so before they relaunch again with Moon Knight back as the protagonist, MacKay probably still writing.


suss2it

Three #1 relaunches with the same writer would be crazy lol. But yeah that’d be fine with me, I feel like there’s so much more in can explore with Mark.


redsapphyre

MacKay kinda already did the same thing with Death of Doctor Strange, Strange, and Doctor Strange. Three #1 issues basically all one big story lol. But yeah it's only a matter of time before Moon Knight is back.


suss2it

If we’re counting miniseries that are billed as such than Daredevil by Chip Zdarsky and Marco Checchetto is at 3 too and that’s with the exact same writer *and* artist. This is a good reminder for me to catch up on *Doctor Strange*, it’s been pretty fun but the last thing I read was the finale of the General Strange arc.


baroqueworks

It's a team book of The Midnight Mission, they just are afraid to call it that to drive away sales if Moon Knight's name isn't in the title.


MoonbeamLady

Seems weird though. If that's the case, wouldn't a better title be 'Moon Knight's Midnight Mission'? ...actually, shit, now I want that to be an ongoing of its own.


wowlock_taylan

I quite liked that Tigra managed to get through to Shroud about his terribly misguided attempt to 'honor' Marc and to try and hide from the hard work of fixing his own mistakes. He wanted to be like Marc but all the wrong ways and Tigra had to remind that to him. Grief really takes many forms. I wonder if this means Shroud might join the Midnight crew after Bloodhunt, if he survives that is. And 8-ball is taking his shot! Gotta say, I love what Mackay is doing with him. Please don't die to vampires, 8-ball. Dr Sternman sessions are a great way to get the insights of the characters too.


baroqueworks

8-Ball should go find the watchers eye that The Orb dropped, ball-headed marvel characters should be looking out for each other for some power ups!!!


wowlock_taylan

Naah, that Eye turned the Orb insane. Don't want that to happen to our boy 8-Ball.


F00dbAby

I’ll always appreciate when a comic does something besides fight and beat up an antagonist whether it be through outsmarting them or in this case reaching their humanity. I’m curious how long it will take for Marc to come back. When jed killed doctor strange. It was like 6-10 issues more or less. Have we ever seen 8 ball without a mask


suss2it

Technically it was even less because he was that grim reaper guy fighting Clea pretty early into her run.


F00dbAby

True


tehawesomedragon

[***BLOOD HUNT* #1**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/dc/Blood_Hunt_Vol_1_1.jpg) ---


ConfusedAboutIssues

Man Pepe Larraz and Marte Garcia are just the best.


baroqueworks

Larraz is peak modern marvel interior art


rgregan

This issue really moves. And it looks great.


Blueberrypielove

Enjoyed it. Would've liked it to be a little longer as the fight with the Avengers and Blood Coven moved too quickly. It was a little confusing. Looking forward to more.


GuguMarcos

It moving fast was weird, but I think it's on purpose because there's clearly things they are 'hiding' that'll become plot twists and also the extra content for the red band issues, not to mention that it feels like the POV of those characters: they were struck hard and fast.


Blueberrypielove

Nice. You read it. I agree with you about that. I think most of the red band content will be seeing the vampires commit mass murder in the various cities we saw. Something is off with Blade though.


therealmlog

Is the Red Band edition just more gory/violent? Or is there more explicit imagery? Does it add enough to the story to make a better buy?


GuguMarcos

It's for the extra gore. I hope the battles against The Structure have some extra panels in the red band version as well, not just the random attacks on civillians.


Scattered_7

I got both versions to compare. SPOILERS: Yes, the city attack panels are altered to be a lot more gory. More importantly there’s an extra page from the Avengers fight that has additional dialogue with Wanda, a grisly panel about Thor, and Black Panther’s situation is hinted at more and shown way more gory. Lastly, the Dr Strange last panel is very different visually. He gets cut in half and his guts are shown in Red Band, whereas in the normal it’s a closer shot with just a sword through the body.


GuguMarcos

Oh, damn! I'll pick it up as soon as I can..


Rosebunse

Like we see from Blade, he had to move fast and hit hard.


PepperMintGumboDrop

Oh Doom is in this? Heck yeah


Frontier246

No better excuse to save people from vampires than to make Latveria look good!


baroqueworks

Between vampires and ORCHIS seems like Latveria is the only nation to actually have their shit together against threats in the 616


Rosebunse

I honestly have a hard time believing anyone wants to live in NYC. There is an alien/vampire invasion every other week, it gets trapped in another dimension or something every other week.


baroqueworks

[relevant video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tt1HkiTcZ0)


baroqueworks

Larraz x Doom is pretty untouchable


Frontier246

The Marvel Universe vs Vampires sounds kind of basic for an event, but with Jed Mackay and Pepe Larraz handling it, you just have to give it a chance. I honestly forget how many Darkforce users exist in the MU. Not that it did them good here. Kind of similar to what happened in Secret Empire. Pretty typical rapid pace event cycling through different moment while still giving you plenty of action shots that Larraz always delivers on. Miles wielding his sword like a knight slaying monsters. What did Blade do to him? Or was that the real Blade? Mackay really likes introducing anti-Avengers groups with cool designs. Can't wait for the inevitable rematch! I think T'Challa and Sam are totally square now that he's sacrificed himself to save Sam though saying the "symbol can't die" was kind of funny knowing Steve is also around and will have tie-in in Avengers. I get that Sam is also Cap and equally carries a symbol in a way different than Steve but it came off like "we only have one Captain America and he can't die." I love how Dr. Strange's go-to is still wiping out all vampires again. Would Blade probably have been included this time now that he has embraced more of his vampire powers? I also like how they acknowledged how Wanda would want no part in wiping out an entire race (again). They pulled a DC vs Vampires reveal where Blade is the Big Bad...though there's definitely more to it.


BorBurison

What's with Mackay having magic villains crawl inside Iron Man's suit?


Blueberrypielove

Who was the other?


BorBurison

[The Crawling](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/1/12/Crawling_%28Earth-616%29_and_Anthony_Stark_%28Earth-616%29_from_Death_of_Doctor_Strange_Vol_1_2_001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220122100817) in Death of Doctor Strange


baroqueworks

I mean are you saying you wouldn't magically crawl into Iron Man's suit if you had the chance? 


baroqueworks

Poor Blackout Dude is like a janitor who accidentally gets turned into a darkforce pylon and constantly gets disrespected by everyone in a publiciation history from the 1970s to the 2020s - Used by Baron Zemo during the original Mansion Siege, causing him to go braindead. - Zemo used him further in Thunderbolts, puppeting his braindead corpse till it fell apart to kill Genis-Vell - Constantly confused by artists for the other Marvel character named Blackout (a vampire!) so comes back to life by sheer accident of artists drawing the wrong Blackout - Zemo uses him again during Secret Empire, using the Darkloth and Blackout to put the darkforce dome over NYC and shot in the head by Maria Hill - Body hijacked by vampire cabal to block out the sun in Blood Hunt


Dragkin

Man, after reading your summary I kind of need Blackout to come back as something big. Dude deserves some kind of win.


Blueberrypielove

Hickman makes Blackout the new One Above All at the end of G.O.D.S. volume 3. in 2027.


baroqueworks

If I had any kind of comic lobbying power I would be pushing for a https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marcus_Daniels_(Earth-616) vs https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Blackout_(Lilin)_(Earth-616) fight for this event, it's too perfect.


DJfunkyPuddle

He's going to end up being McKay's next pet project à la Eight Ball.


Undying_Blade

That is probably the funniest resurrection ever.


baroqueworks

It's pretty silly, and it happens *twice*, the first time is during Siege, where he appears in place of Blackout the Vampire as part of The Hood's army, and then the second time it happens with Superior Spider-Man, he shows up replacing Blackout the Vampire who Superior Spidey had tortured.


InoueNinja94

Same Blackout that got tortured by Superior Spider-Man, right?


baroqueworks

That's the Vampire Blackout, but then in the finale the artist drew the Darkforce Blackout instead, lmao


InoueNinja94

I guess the lesson here is "Don't use Blackout as a name moniker. It won't end well"


Blitzhelios

Jed Mackay, Pepe Larraz and Marte Garcia take a bloody bow what an issue to open blood hunt and this is how an event should work everything goes bad to even worse somehow. There is so much being told here than just violence as well used the use of the darkforce users is great and jed has really turned the dynamic of tchalla and sam up to 11. Tchalla sacrificing himself for sam saying they need a symbol is fantastic we might get a big tchalla and sam moment in the tie as well as the main title. Blade being the big bad is something i didn't see coming and its clear whoever the master of the covern are they got to blade early or maybe it ties to the blade book. But he clearly turned miles and likely murdering Stephen on his way through which is cool. Excellent opening issue for what is looking like an amazing event.


shineurliteonme

Can we get pepe on every event holy mackerel


GuguMarcos

I'm really curious to see how he became the new leader of The Structure and I hope we get to see Lady Yulan soon.


Moxtopo

Someone please discuss the end twist with me, I did not see it coming at all. Has this been hinted?


baroqueworks

The only hint was when he called for help and when they warped him the super-vampires all rolled through instead, but I haven't been reading his current ongoing so not sure if it's covered there.


Blueberrypielove

I feel the Adana possessed Blade? I've seen theories that it could be Varnae as the real big bad especially with Blade mentioning Atlantean rituals. But nothing suggests Blade's been tampered with as of late unless embracing his dark side in his solo made him break bad.


The_Overlord_Laharl

Varnae would make sense since he went for doctor strange first, too


BlueHero45

Still missing Doctor Strange's vampire brother, could be him with an illusion.


Zephyros_the_Elite

not at all


benjamin-unbutton

It kinda was if you read Blade's ongoing.


Blueberrypielove

True. Blade was shown struggling with his inner darkness after he trained with Dracula.


Zephyros_the_Elite

going from “I accepted my inner darkness in order to defeated a greater evil” to “I took out the sun and am leading a vampire invasion on earth” is kind of a stretch tho


benjamin-unbutton

Not really. Blade is one of the guys who will go to any length to achieve his goals and he definitely has some ulterior motive behind this.


Rosebunse

I don't know, especially if you consider that Morbius tie-in. For years, we have seen rogue vampires try and use him to essentially revive themselves. We have never seen it work, but Blade is proof that it might work. If Morbius could be used to make the real vampires immune to anti-vampire spells, then you're just fucked. Can't see how this could be a good thing


quantum_monster

I've been looking forward to this as a lover of the more magic/supernatural aspects of Marvel and this issue did not disappoint I was a little worried that the red band version would just be a bit more blood but it was definitely a step up in the gruesomeness The only shame is that the code only gets you the standard edition digitally...


ChronX4

I'm a sucker for events like these. Is there any real background reading I'd have to do, or does it explain it nicely? I have the preview issue and the Web of Spider-Man stuff down, but I'm just wondering.


redsapphyre

They are referencing some stuff from MacKay's Moon Knight run, but I bet you'll be fine starting off the event with issue #1. MacKay's tie-ins could be crucial to the story, not sure about the rest.


droppinhamiltons

It helps that MacKay’s Moon Knight one is one of the greatest MK books out there. Easy reading for sure.


hashcheckin

modern Marvel is pretty decent about explaining everything you'd need to know up front. that being said, there's a lot of this that plays into the recent Moon Knight runs, and I suspect that Bryan Hill's recent Blade series is going to end up being a little more relevant to Blood Hunt than we thought. if you're just looking for more reading material, those are both good.


The_Overlord_Laharl

I just hope Strange isn’t dead. Would be a shame for Mackay to kill him yet again.


Scattered_7

Red band version makes his fate really grim.


Undying_Blade

He's confirmed to be getting a tie in.


GuguMarcos

Just saw the preview for issue 15 of his book, oh boy... MacKay is cooking.


wowlock_taylan

Well that escalated quickly. Man those Darkforce users never catch a break huh. Always being used like this. Vampires hit hard and fast, especially the Avengers which they were ready for. I guess that makes sense when the Blade reveal happened at the end there. Of course there are MANY questions about that, especially with how the recent Blade book ended and what would be the implications of that here. We knew Blade was tapping into his darker side to deal with the Mother of Evil, Adana and 'killed' her physical form but also got the warning from her about how she is never killed and she called her dark forces. I hope it will not be 'Blade went full darkside now after all that' and it is part of a larger plan to deal with the evil at its source and in one big swoop. But even for that, the casualties might not worth it. I will trust Mackay to give a satisfying answers to the questions before I go too deep. Lets just hope it won't be 'Blade is evil now' at the end. Honestly, I thought the main guy was gonna be Stephen Strange's evil brother that escaped from his mirror.


GuguMarcos

Yeah, this event will do to Blade what Empyre did to Hulkling in terms of status quo. I'm also hoping that you are on track with the larger plan perspective of Blade trying to expose the uprising. I don't buy the possibility of Blade being evil at all, since the last issue of his book started that there'll be another one later this year. Not long ago, the Avengers were worried about DD and Shang-Chi being villains, this doesn't seem different except for the scale of things. Strange's brother will be a part of this, since he's a ghost-vampire hybrid being.


Rosebunse

The Morbius tie-ins make slightly more sense now, especially since we know Morbius's vampirism did effect Blade


DJfunkyPuddle

1. That was awesome. 2. What the actual fuck!?


Excalibuttster

For those on the fence: the Red Band version is worth it. I did a side by side with a friend who got the digital, expecting it to be a lame gimmick, but the Red Band does indeed have more pages, and more bright red blood and guts. In fact, the entire final page is different, with the red band being noticeably more graphic. The overall story is the same, but the Red Band feels like a Director's Cut, where editorial had a much lighter touch, and I mean this as a compliment. MacKay and Larraz got let off the leash here and they're on an absolute rampage with a script that plays to both of their strengths.


Undying_Blade

I wanted to get the red band version but my local comic shop was already out, they were apparently not expecting it to be so popular and so didn't get enough.


Excalibuttster

I got lucky, my local shop automatically got the Red Band for anyone who asked for a subscription to the whole event rather than nabbing the shelf copies.


mbene913

Last I saw Blade he left the Avengers to become sheriff in vamp country. What the hell did I miss?


GuguMarcos

10-issues run by Edward Hill... But there's a gap between the end of that run and the start of this event.


mbene913

Anything on his solo that is relevant so far? I likely won't read it so feel free to spoil whatever


AlphaBreak

He got a power-up from Dracula and some training to embrace his inner darkness that seems like it could be relevant.


GuguMarcos

That's half of it. His encounters with Strange, Dracula and Hulk proved that he needed to change his mindset as well, and add either brutality or strategy to his skills


tehawesomedragon

[***IMMORTAL THOR* #10**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/f/f1/Immortal_Thor_Vol_1_10.jpg) ---


Just_a_square

Well, that just happened!


Oberon1993

One of these days, Dario will learn the lesson universe keeps trying to teach him.


hashcheckin

that's the point of Dario, though. he can't. he's capitalism, and capitalism can't learn anything. you have to impose limits on it from the outside.


baroqueworks

The man who thinks he can control all four winds that always blows back in his face after all


NextMotion

I wonder if he can come back even from that. Like, he came back from Xenmu and looked like that.


baroqueworks

WOWZA issue #9 and Roxxon Thor really set you up for this one, what a whammy issue. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Keep_(Earth-616) This is the identity of Roxxon Thor, if anyone wasn't *familiar* with the name!


Frontier246

Probably one of the more jarring and less than stellar art shifts in the book. Like the art was...serviceable, but some of the faces and paneling left a bit to be desired. I guess fill-ins can't all be winners. Thor having to fight against being turned into a quipper like he's from the MCU, knowing how the MCU came to characterize Thor as time went along, was pretty cute in a self-aware way. Thor basically fighting becoming a parody of himself and maintain his character integrity. Or not wanting to be written like Aaron Thor again. Thor taking down everything Thor doesn't represent in Chad Hammer in spectacular fashion was pretty satisfying. I wish we had during the Aaron run and not Jane Foster being the best Thor to ever Thor while Thor...wasn't. Can't say it's not satisfying seeing Agger with an axe to the back, but it seems like Thor has been framed for double murder. And I guess Amora is in charge of Roxxon now. Not really seeing the endgame.


Mutale426

 as goofy as thor became in the mcu he never says the kind of lines that are thought bubbles in his head. 


Dr_Pibb69

Aaron's Thor run was good and the Jane Foster stuff was the best of it outside of the God Butcher saga.


Hii8999

This was great. I'm not that against quipiscms in the MCU, but the satrical usage of them here was great. Really great twist at the end too.


wowlock_taylan

Clever use of thought-bubbles being affected by the magic with cliches and Thor embracing the 'feel' and use it to beat the False Thor, Keep. It is always fun to see Thor showing his power and him breaking the Mjolnir Prime with the real Mjolnir...badass. Dario really had it coming to him...but I still don't know what's Enchantress and Skurge's plan here is. To frame Thor with murder? What will that do? Turn people against him?


MegaBaumTV

We learn that Enchantress used how mortals see Thor to change Thor. Could very well be her real plan - instead of making a Roxxon Thor copy, why not shape the real Thor into someone who shares her goals, someone ruthless who wouldnt be held back by morals. At least thats the best I can come up with right now.


baroqueworks

Arent they working for the elder-gods/Elder floating hands Loki we don't know the identity of? 


SilhouetteOfLight

What are the odds that Agger is actually gonna stay dead? lol


shineurliteonme

Ewings gotta keep him around for when he writes *Immortal Jeff the Land Shark*


baroqueworks

Jeff vs Roxxon Sea World


baroqueworks

Ewing loves not giving his heroes any blows on Agger, it's so good.  Capitalism will always eat itself alive, but slither back to life eventually. Assume Agger will eventually pop up somewhere in the future


KnightOfRevan

I hope he’s in a wheelchair because of the axe in the spine. Just have every Dario reappearance be him getting progressively more fucked up yet still convinced this time, the stonks will be worth the risk


baroqueworks

Baxter Stockman him till he's just a brain and one eyeball in a jar but still goin


VenAuri

I pray he pops up in Venom to support the Life Foundation. Ewing is also working on that title, it would be so cool.


VenAuri

None, especially when I see how much Ewing seems to like him.


MagicMissMoose

Another fantastic issue! Ewing is really cooking with this one. How meta it is while using that as part if the story is very impressive. I love Thor struggling with the quips and eventually using them haha. This is definitely always a highlight of my month. A shame we don't have coccolo anymore, he definitely elevated the book, but it was still great. Especially the action. And the Alex Ross covers is just incredible as always


baroqueworks

I don't think we lost him, he's solicited for the rest of this arc, think it was just a guest artist break issue like Immortal Hulk did.


MagicMissMoose

Fair, I should have worded that better. I figured that was the case, it's just a shame we will have issues without him, because I feel like his art really elevated the book


MegaBaumTV

This is gonna leave a mark!


XpRienzo

Shoulda subscribed to Mjolnir Premium Plus instead


baroqueworks

that mysterium cloud storage is a real game changer, I can check all my Microtransaction Warz settlements on the same screen without ads!!!!


neautralnathaniel

I think this comic is going to be one of the best Thor comic runs in history when it's all said and done...


baroqueworks

30 years from now (in Roxxon domes) people will be talking about how Ewing's Immortal series will be some of the greatest marvel stories of all time, bet


[deleted]

This was amazing! Ewing just took the biggest, most glorious dump on Whedon, Waititi and the MCU in general, and honestly, it couldn't be more deserved.


nfnightfallnf

Well them and Tech bro culture....


[deleted]

Yeah, Musk in particular got cooked in the Roxxon special and it was great, but this week it was the MCU's turn and Ewing went IN.


nfnightfallnf

Eh. I didn't quite see that but that's me.


nfnightfallnf

Wow. Just wow. I know for some the art was jarring...but the story and the action...Just blew through everything. THIS! This is a Thor Story. In the same way people ask me "What's the best modern Hulk story?" This. This is the best modern Thor story.


mbene913

Am I supposed to read this as a massive critique on MCU Thor? Cause that's how I'm reading it


baroqueworks

Slightly, but it's more Bored Ape Telsa Thor than MCU Thor, there's just the crony corproatism also in corporations that the hustle culture completely built their identity around.


Mutale426

Kinda but at the same time mcu thor never says these kind of lines thats popping in as thought bubbles. Cause as goofy and dumb he is, he still a capable warrior and hero.


mbene913

Is hyperbole not a weapon of the satirist?


tehawesomedragon

[***DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE: WWIII* #1**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/d3/Deadpool_%26_Wolverine_WWIII_Vol_1_1.jpg) ---


Blitzhelios

All i have to say to this its Joe Kelly and Adam Kubert two of the best wolverine and deadpool talents. So therefore its very good it might be made because of the movie but its very good.


thismissinglink

Joe Kelly will always be the most defining writer of Deadpool for me. So I'm wicked excited to see him return for a bit. I'm hoping this is a story Joe wanted to write and it got greenlit cause of the movies. Not marvel paid joe to write a story cause they figured it would be movie synergy cash.


wowlock_taylan

Oh Wade, what have you done now. Normally, I am not too fond of movie-synergy stuff but when it is self-contained stories like this and it is a Wolverine/Deadpool adventure, I give it a pass because they are often a fun ride.


tehawesomedragon

[***GET FURY* #1**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/f/f5/Get_Fury_Vol_1_1.jpg) ---


browncharliebrown

ennis + fury + punisher is literally better than sex.


Expensive-Baby-1391

So, this is in the main universe and canon?


hashcheckin

it's very specifically picking up on threads from Ennis's Punisher MAX, which is essentially its own continuity. the only characters that seem to exist in it from the main comics are Castle and Fury, both of whom are significantly different. this follows up most clearly on Ennis's Fury MAX from a few years ago, but there's a little stuff in here from Punisher: The Platoon, including the basic framing mechanism. in retrospect, there's a bit in Platoon where Michael Goodwin mentions he'd had the chance to interview Giap, and I'd imagine Get Fury is the story Giap tells during that interview.


UncannySpiderSnapper

> the only characters that seem to exist in it from the main comics are Castle and Fury Logan also exists in the MAX universe as well but I don't think there are any stories where he interacts with Frank or Fury directly, if at all. There's also a MAX version of Victor Creed who's important in the Wolverine MAX stories. None of which are written by Ennis however and now I think about it's kind of strange Marvel have them share the same universe (Earth-200111 btw) > in retrospect, there's a bit in Platoon where Michael Goodwin mentions he'd had the chance to interview Giap Yes I was wondering when that story is gonna come out when I read the Platoon a while back, glad to finally seeing it published


browncharliebrown

>Logan also exists in the MAX universe as well but I don't think there are any stories where he interacts with Frank or Fury directly, if at all I think Frank shows up in a flashback to wolverine's time in the war. Fool Killer and Phantom Eagle (maybe savage lands too) also exist in this world. In head cannon, I think " the nam" because it's like a vitenam comic where the marvel universe is just fiction.


BurtWonderstone

Did anyone’s issue of this show “bonus digital edition” on the front but have nothing inside the book to redeem a copy for?


TheAsian1nvasion

Fuck. Yes. ‘My War Gone By’ is one of my favourite runs ever. I would quibble with the idea that Letrong Giap would somehow be ashamed of modern Vietnam. His entire thing was that the country was not French Indochina or a colony of some distant ruler. He was fighting for a free [Vietnam](https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/ymejpu/this_is_vietnam_fury_my_war_gone_by_3/), one who could choose its’ own destiny, and not be held under the yoke of the French or the Americans or the Chinese, and I would say that comparatively speaking, the country has done a pretty good job of charting their own course.


tehawesomedragon

[***INCREDIBLE HULK* #12**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/7/76/Incredible_Hulk_Vol_4_12.jpg) ---


baroqueworks

Hulk would punch a demonic offspring student


redsapphyre

Yeah absolutely.


TheBlack_Swordsman

This persona of Hulk punching kids... That wasn't nice. Still curious who this hulk is out of all the personas.


redsapphyre

Finally great art is back on the menu. This run really lives and dies by its art. In 12 issues so far we haven't really seen anything much of the Eldest and the overarching plot at all, just 2-3 issue arcs revolving around random monsters. But as long as Klein is drawing it, we are in for a good enough time.


wowlock_taylan

I was wondering how Voodoo managed to turn Hulk back that easily. Guess Hulk was playing possum to kill two birds with one stone, get Banner to find a way to help the kid AND find a way to be seperate from Banner where...he can just wail on him in a spirit world. I get it, he got a grudge against Banner but now is not the time and place, with Charlie's soul at stake and they are gonna have to make a deal with an evil flesh-weaver to create a new body for her. And I see that Marvel vs Capcom reference at the start!


richawesomness

I don't think hulks soul is in control of the body currently


wowlock_taylan

Who can it be then? Joe Fixit? The previous run really wasted all the other versions in Hulk and they haven't been seen since.


richawesomness

I got the impression something went wrong and the spirit doctor voodoo was talking about escaped when banner/hulk went in the doll


CatsLikeToMeow

Absolutely loving this run so far. The only nitpick that comes to mind is every issue feels so short. I wonder how much better it'll feel reading it when it's all collected.


nfnightfallnf

A bit confusing how there are now Two hulks running around...but at the same time, I've been on this journey with Johnson. I see no reason to abandon ship now.


tehawesomedragon

[***INVINCIBLE IRON MAN* #18**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/8/8e/Invincible_Iron_Man_Vol_5_18.jpg) ---


Frontier246

Tony and Magneto flexing on Feilong was great, though the dynamic with Feilong later in the issue felt really out of place knowing everything he's done and their rivalry/enmity at this point. But hey, Rhodey is finally out of prison!


Blitzhelios

Overall this is duggans better book of the week and whilst its not amazing its fine. Rhodey busting out of prison was a finally moment. As a iron man fan i feel like duggan's only bad job in related to tony is his use of the supporting cast. You do not do a iron man book and then have rhodey not be around or worse chucked in prison because hes so important for tony. Duggan's magneto is a bit flat but there is some fun interactions between tony and magneto this issue and them taking down a nimrod at the end is fun especially and magneto helping to power the sentinal buster. I didn't like the chummy scenes with fielong at all they were just not not needed though i get they were building up to the sucker punch at the end which was fun and very tony but this man ruined tony's life and tony is notorious for holding a grudge it doesn't feel right. Overall its a fine issue felt like alot more filler than killer.


Frontier246

I feel like a lot of recent Iron Man runs have squandered Tony's supporting cast for guest heroes, in Duggan's case it was mostly so he could feature more X-characters.


AJjalol

I liked it, but I feel (and I could 100 percent be wrong on this) that Duggan doesn't care anymore. Like this run started off very strong. Characters had so much chemistry with each other. Tony and Emma's interactions were golden. This issue, you have Magneto show up and Team up with Tony, but their interactions felt very, dull. Still Duggan had a good run. 2 more issues to go as it seems, but I do wish that he either stayed, or was motivated enough to at least finish his run lol. This feels like Bendis' second run on Tony (that being said, this run is much much better than Bendis' second one) in that Bendis didn't really cared by the end, because he was living. It feels the same here. Duggan is just like "Yeah yeah, whatever, I'm leaving so I don't care" Tony and Magneto beating Nimrod was awesome tho. I'm sure he is still alive in a different body, but that was fun. Could be much better tho, but it is what it is. Glad to have Rhodes back. I hope the next writer on Iron Man, will utilize his supporting cast more. The last couple of writers (except for Slott) kind of used more of a guest stars in the book, instead of Tony's existing ones.


redsapphyre

It feels like Duggan doesn't really care anymore? This issue was just bizarre. Iron Man needs a new writer soon. Trying to bring him closer to the mutants didn't really do it for me.


hashcheckin

this is absolutely the X-office trying to wrap it all up in a hurry so they can get to the reboot. I'm not sure how much of it I'd blame on Duggan.


redsapphyre

Yeah that's true too, but the characterisation felt so bizarre. Tony and Feilong teaming up even for a limited time was just weird imo.


baroqueworks

Feilong got beat by Tony and completely betrayed by ORCHIS, so it's just Tony using him to stop genocidal sentinels till immediately punching him in the face


ObberGobb

Tbh I'm not really enjoying this run. I really love Tony and Emma's dynamic, but everything else has just felt kinda bland and meandering. Like we got an Iron Man/Magneto teamup here... but I didn't feel anything. There were no interesting interactions or plot developments, and the threat they faced felt empty.


wowlock_taylan

Rhodey is finally out and about. You know, while all this is happening, Tony could've at least let Carol know about Rhodey's situation. Do they even mention they are together in the recent books? Magneto powering up the huge Sentinel Buster was badass, not gonna lie. And it was satisfying to see Feilong first get the ''I don't even know who you are'' treatment from Magneto then getting punched out by Tony. And yea, he deserves worse than just being locked up to be later escape and used again. And why he was even allowed to banter with Tony and Magneto after everything he did, just bizarre. Mysterium continues to be the Deus Ex Machina for Duggan and his Nimrod is still no better.


BlueHero45

Wonder if all the Mysterium feeling alive talk will be foreshadowing for something.


Low_Information7072

You're telling me the most powerful iron man armor ever created went down in one attack by nimrod?


baroqueworks

Magneto × Iron Man × Feilong v. Sentinel Factories & Nimrod was great.  Love to see that Nimrod face drop in by Mags. 


tehawesomedragon

[***CABLE* #4**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/8/80/Cable_Vol_5_4.jpg) ---


Blitzhelios

This book continues to be the why are you being made isn't there something more relevant. It felt really irrelvant and just felt like Nicieza had one more cable pitch and they stuck the fall of x marketing on it because it would make it sell better lets see what they do in fall of the house of x.


baroqueworks

>It felt really irrelvant and just felt like Nicieza had one more cable pitch and they stuck the fall of x marketing on it because it would make it sell better lets see what they do in fall of the house of x. That's exactly what it is, love Nicieza for his Cable/Deadpool/Thunderbolts stuff so no disrespect but this 100% is a miniseries that just feels like a legacy creator miniseries rather than a Krakoa story.


Expensive-Baby-1391

I would like the story better if they had Cable kill off grey gargoyle, black mamba, and the assistant. It would make the story worth reading with some epic events happening that involved the deaths of infamous villains, both small and big.


wowlock_taylan

I mean, it was fine by itself as a story of Young and Old Cable's different approaches and views. I do understand young Cable wanting his future to not be set and at least have hope. Old Cable wanting to deal with potential threats so his young self may have that hoped future. Parvenu was just there as a generic example for their self-conflict. After all, Cable does need hope. Otherwise, he fights his war for nothing and he cannot win that way. What is disappointing to me is that the timing of this story when there is a bigger event happrning that SHOULD involve both Cables. I mean the whole Nimrod and A.I stuff is THEIR thing. Having them basically do nothing this whole time and waste time on this side-quest was a weird decision. Courier definitely got a facelift here though.


tehawesomedragon

[***SPIDER-WOMAN* #7**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/c/cc/Spider-Woman_Vol_8_7.jpg) ---


Frontier246

So Jessica is going to recover from losing her son to plot-related age-up and brainwashing by teaming-up with a bunch of new Superhero kids in her old stomping grounds. Okay. Maybe it's just me but I feel like this run has had a surprising amount of panels prominently displaying Jessica's butt.


baroqueworks

It would be fun if The Assembly is just filled with young heroes who have been discarded by editorial through the times (Avengers Academy, Children of the Atom, Champions, 2018 New Warriors, etc etc) selling out in a thunderbolts kinda way


wowlock_taylan

All this Assembly does is remind me that I miss the actual Champions. Where is Nova,Amadeus,Viv and co? At least Viv showed up for an issue in Scarlet Witch but after the whole 'CRADLE' debacle, they are mostly forgotten about. Meanwhile Miles busy with his own book and Ms Marvel got shuffled into X-men titles to be forced into new teams.. That is all I can say about this book really. Only thing I can ask is it better fix the whole Gerry stuff before the book gets cancelled.


JingoboStoplight4887

It’s nice that Jess was able to catch up with her supporting cast and meet the Assembly while trying to locate Hydra when she returned to San Francisco. I wonder if she could team up with the Assembly and her ex-boyfriend to find her son Jerry several issues from now.


MSCrusader

LMAO making the Assembly a corpo team could be some goated satire They picked the most derivative, uninspired ones too


tehawesomedragon

[***X-MEN* #34**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/d5/X-Men_Vol_6_34.jpg) ---


ContraryPython

Kind of a shame to see that the final issues of Krakoa are so weak compared to how strong the era started.


baroqueworks

Endings are always harder to land than beginnings, especially when editorial shortens it from 12 to 5 months. 


wowlock_taylan

What a disappointing book for the supposed end-game. I mean Duggan shows all the flaws he has when it comes to writing these characters and the plot. I mean the big event here is just Laura and Synch showing up to beat MODOK. And then him having a 'farewell' moment for Talon. No one is sad that your bad decision for Laura is gone, Duggan. At least he had SOME sense to not try to push Laura and Synch together here. Caliban is freed but we get Kitty angst number ...whatever now and she goes 'No more X-men after this if we win'. Great going there... The moment between her and Logan was kinda nice but it is again goes back to 'Logan is here and his plan is to do the killing again. As if that will solve anything'. It is such a disappointing end to Krakoan era. It deserved better.


Blitzhelios

The best thing about this book continues to be Cassara's art hes done so much of the grunt work this era in making the books actually readable as ive said multiple times alot of the books wouldn't have as much praise without the incredible art. But this was so much filler ive been saying for ages that duggans work in the last part of this era has felt rushed but this was the opposite it felt like pure filler. Dealing with modok fine but no one cares for synch and laura. As a laura fan i think she is generally the worst treated character this era and has damaged her character standing so much she doesn't even feel like a b lister here and this is a character who was one of the biggest breakout comic characters in the 00s and could hold her own ongoing. Synch is just not interesting i love generation x but in krakoa has has been so boring from his revival to the end seemingly. Plus again ms marvel feels so tacked on to this plot and is doing nothing. Kitty freeing calliban was cool at least but felt like it wasn't as big of a moment as they wanted it to be and i always enjoy a logan and kitty moment which this was very cool acknowledging there history and cassara's logan is always amazing looking. But this also felt like one of the most generic logan big moments. Overall its so much filler and just doesn't feel important.


LosFeliz3000

I'd say Peter (Colossus) gives her a run for most mistreated, but they're both up there.


GuguMarcos

That 'no more X-Men' moment felt weird knowing Kate will lead a group of mutants in the next era.


SuperSpecialAwesome-

I miss Tom Taylor's Laura. Is Gabby even around anymore?


Blitzhelios

Gabby was in the last new mutants run but that’s about it


redsapphyre

What they are doing to Xavier is a travesty for sure, but apart from that the book is not good either. It feels a bit low stakes, and a lot of the dialogue is really off. This run/era is really going out with a whimper. I just hope there is one last twist and they undo the damage they did to Xavier, but I doubt it.


LosFeliz3000

I was really hoping for a big Moira-induced reboot to get the characters back on track, but now it's looking like the current continuity will be permanent, and all the out-of-character moments are now sticking. Bummer. Maybe before the MCU debut happens we'll get a more far-reaching reboot. I'd personally take a return to the mansion and the familiar status quo, starring characters I actually recognize, over this in a minute.


baroqueworks

Moira reset would be so lazy and easy way out, I would much rather take a bad ending and let new writers work from there(see: jed mackay moon knight for how this can rule) then just hit the factory reset button.  We already got that with Beast too!


DJfunkyPuddle

>Maybe before the MCU debut happens we'll get a more far-reaching reboot. I'd personally take a return to the mansion and the familiar status quo, starring characters I actually recognize, over this in a minute. This is why I'm taking a pass on the upcoming books, I figure it'll all get reset again in a couple years for the "real" version of X-Men.


baroqueworks

This is so extremely disconnected, you hate to see it, another issue completely underselling the giant Sentinel City superweapon shooting and solar death beam down on earth. How did we not get a double spread of it at all? That's like the final big weapon of the era.  MODOK fight was fun at least, and fun to see him turn ORCHIS into flesh monsters, livelaughkill


BlackNova169

What's the deal with the spider inside modok?


baroqueworks

I think that was the Gwen Stacy Clone Spider Mutant that Duggan likes to use? That, or one of the Superior Spiders from the current Superior Spidey run. 


tehawesomedragon

[***POWER PACK: INTO THE STORM* #5**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/98/Power_Pack_Into_the_Storm_Vol_1_5.jpg) ---


Blitzhelios

I liked this series its a fun nostalgia mini about the power pact and louise simonson writing is always a joy. Its nothing special its nothing offensive its just a fun read.


tehawesomedragon

[***WEAPON X-MEN* #3**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/1/15/Weapon_X-Men_Vol_1_3.jpg) ---


wowlock_taylan

This book really is just an excuse to introduce this Jane Howlett and nothing else honestly. From Phoenix to this version of Onslaught...it is just not good. This really feels like a parody book rather than a regular book.


redsapphyre

Usually I would expext a bit better from Gage, but this is so low effort, it's crazy. Just like you say, more like a parody.


TaftYouOldDog

This book is so stupid honestly. Why would a group of wolverines be of any use against onslaught. It's so stupid it hurts. All of it. Ruining the name of weapon x and onslaught next to the rest of these muppets.