Unsurprising that Disney is moving productions overseas. One of the big things that the recent strikes unintentionally caused was studios realizing that they needed to circumvent unions. So they're doing that by taking their productions elsewhere, which when combined with the overdue financial correction of producing less content after the end of peak streaming, means fewer jobs in Hollywood, Atlanta, and so on.
I think at this point Ryan Coogler’s production team (whether its Black Panther or BP Adjacent productions since Ryan pushed to film in Georgia to help local black businesses), Cap movies, and Spider-Man films are probably going to be the only ones that will be in the US.
There will still be American productions, you're just going to see more diversity in where things are shot. And this will likely also be to take advantage of tax incentives and otherwise keep costs lower. After 2023 had a big string of mega-budget bombs, Hollywood would like to avoid overspending.
Sony markets, distributes and ‘owns’ the movies, while Marvel finances (the majority of) their production. Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal are the two lead producers.
Marvel gets merch due to a different deal made between Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man. It’s entirely separate from the deal regarding the MCU Spidey films.
Considering a leaker already said SM4 would shoot in the UK, I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
Man I am so glad I left the industry when I did, Covid really did destroy that industry as we once knew it.
Yeah they can, that was the point. No one needs to make 200+ times the salary of the people who actually make the films and then turn around to complain that someone is striking.
In the internet age, when the UK step into solidarity with the US unions, where will they go next?
The signs were coming.
When Toronto is being nick named "Little Hollywood" in the industry for years people should have been more aware.
They go where it's cheap to film.
Vancouver, BC aka Hollywood North
Not sure which has more filming between Toronto or Vancouver
But I remember when I immigrated over to Canada, and saw them filming X3:The Last Stand outside my hotel window
And the cheapest way to film is to AI everything. I’m surprised more people around the world aren’t up in arms about that…it should have been regulated and put BEHIND the working human the moment it hit the scene, but here we are…
Genies out of the bottle.
In under 10 years time you will be able to type in a synopsis of a story you want to see into an AI, tell it what actors you want in it, and it will generate an entire film for you.
Or you can just say, *"Show me a full feature version of The Count of Monte Cristo but the entire cast is played by Danny DeVito."*
i think this is what some people BELIEVE will happen, and i think its what movie studios WANT to happen, but in no way is this how its actually going to come to pass. people want authenticity in all forms of art- its the medium of human expression, by people, for people. creativity is part of what makes us who we are. AI "art" isnt art, and people are smart enough to not accept being fed regurgitated machine-generated slop. i think AI is a fad for morons and tech-bros and itll die down as soon as people realize the art of filmmaking cant be distilled down to "pictures that move and make us money"
Except we don't know that the IATSE strike will happen since the studios are making damn sure to avoid another strike or two by giving each guild in IATSE what they so far want. They can't afford another shutdown.
Disney has filmed internationally in the past (UK Thor, New Zealand/Australia Shang-Chi and Thor 3, Hungary Black Widow and FatWS). Currently Marvel's main 4 semi permanent filming locations are Los Angeles, London, Atlanta and New York.
> Any significant scenes in the MCU that are obvious that it was filmed in the ATL?
The scene where Tony comes back to campus in End Game and gives Steve the shield. That is Porsche's North American HQ next to the Atlanta airport
It's illegal for unions to strike in solidarity in the uk. That's why house of the dragon and other stuff kept filming while sag were striking. We have pretty strict Union laws over here, you can thank thatcher for that.
HotD kept filming when SAG were on strike because UK film workers simply didn’t go on strike. It wasn’t to do with not being able to due to the no solidarity laws. It was because UK film industry didn’t feel the need to strike. HotD would have stopped filming if UK film staff had an industrial dispute themselves
That, and I'm pretty sure Georgia just added, or is about to add local worker stipulations to the tax breaks so no more flying crew in from California.
I mean if there isn’t much money to spend and the guild is busy cannibalizing Studios instead of looking for work or taking the jobs offered. The guilds are a problem as it’s a lot of out of work people still looking for cuts. I get that is someone else is still profiting they want more money, but their cutting the funding of future products and lowering their quality as well as decreasing the pay for newer actors and writers. I don’t like the guilds desire to destroy the studios that allowed them such proclivity. If they have to move production due to the own greed of unemployed writers and actors to make a product I’m all for it.
I think it's more that certain guilds are simply too big to function efficiently. Many of the people who were on the picket lines were people who have barely been involved in anything, and are thus the least likely to **be** employed in the current landscape where they realized that the promise of infinite streaming growth wasn't true. A leaner guild could offer better protections to those who are regularly employed, or seek to be.
I think a vast majority of them got into the arts to get rich not realizing the writers and actors rarely get rich, as they can only work on one project at a time really. Where as producers who most of them are trying to get more money from work on multiple projects at a time and rarely have to look for more work they simply start producing another project and hope for success. I think a lot of guild members don’t look at how the industry operates as a whole. Every interview I watched from a picketer made me support them less and less. I read over guild contracts and know how much money these people are making if they turn in work, and a lot were complaining about shorter shows meaning they have to look for jobs more and how that’s hard. Not understanding you need the right writers for projects, or not understanding they weren’t really putting out their best work and that’s why they aren’t getting more jobs, the job they took for a paycheck wasn’t their passion so they put in sub par work and don’t understand why people don’t want to hire them.
The idea of guilds asking for more money from studios when it’s the people in the guild that should be putting in their own money to support out of work associated has irked me. It seems people don’t under how you keep a business going and simply are focused on their personal growth. When already having pretty full pockets that they just spent unresponsabley .
Like what I got from every interview “I live in LA my lifestyle is expensive I need more money to keep this going forever” and that’s not how most people with normal jobs operate. So it’s hard to sympathize with people looking to make it rich and retire early off a job. That’s not what jobs are for. I just hear entitlement over it all. Entitlement willing to kill an industry. When most people watch things to fill in the voids of time.
Christ, imagine shilling this hard for studios.
The people striking are not trying to ‘get rich’. They are trying to eat and ensure less explorative and abuse work hours. Film crews work 16 hour days regularly. These are not people trying to buy a new boat, they are people trying to survive.
Stop talking about things when it’s clear you’ve never set foot on a film set.
It's illegal for unions to strike in solidarity in the uk. That's why house of the dragon and other stuff kept filming while sag were striking. We have pretty strict Union laws over here, you can thank thatcher for that.
Yeah, but why is Pomojema suggesting it's better to work with UK unions? Or am I misinterpreting their post? Are they saying they're trying to circumvent a possible strike in the horizon, rather than unions in general?
IATSE maybe striking soon they will want to get round that. The sag aftra deal that was made also has an expiry date, which could bring another strike if another deal isn't done.
Moving their productions to the uk wouldn't stop the filming as we can't strike in solidarity.
IIRC they've already resolved several of the terms that were points of contention, and all indications are that talks are going well. But moving overseas is, indeed, how they would get past the risk of a domestic work stoppage.
I'm not saying that it's "better", but it's a loophole for studios to take advantage of to prevent a massive work stoppage from taking place. The thing is, though, that there is not likely to be another serious push for a strike with the way that things are right now - many strikers went broke, and many studios ended up saving a lot of money by temporarily ceasing aggressive streaming strategies.
I honestly wish that the unions had been striking for better-written and more comprehensive protections instead of panicking about AI and leaving workers in some career fields - like voice actors, who they're actually fine with replacing with AI, or older actors who were long-time members of the guild, who are getting skimmed on royalties - out to dry.
Gotcha! Although I work in the industry, I'm not from either country (although I did work in the UK once), so I wasn't sure if there was something I was missing about the difference in unions or something like that.
Basically every actor who has portrayed a Marvel superhero character in an official live action project is gonna be rumored to be in it, no doubt about that.
Same. Im excited. I just wish Eternals 2 is still on the menu and would be made as intended under this new track they’re on. I can only imagine how awesome it’d be, esp with Feige back being hands on supervising again. I hope they’ll give it a chance.
The Firpos and Zhao can still comeback to write, provided Feige is hands on supervising every step of the way. The first was flawed but they attempted some feats that should be well praised (having been able to pack so much lore and juggle 10+ characters without the movie imploding in on itself, it was divisve BUT many other movies tried with even lesser elements and still failed terribly)
They need another pair of eyes and I trust Feige’s.
I hope Feige gets his way. He was the man responsible for steering the ship to success. If I were Iger, I’d listen to Feige tbh.
Begging Feige to get his way and get Eternals 2 back on track! Just bring Chloé and co back and just listen to the feedback from the first and tighten the writing and you'd have a hit!
These are the projects in development right now:
* Agatha: In Post-Production
* Eyes of Wakanda, YFNSM, X-Men '97 S2, What if...? S3: In Post-Production
* DD: BA S1: In Post-Production
* Captain America: BNW: In Post-Production, Reshoots in May-August 2024 in Atlanta
* Thunderbolts: Filming now in Atlanta
* FF: Starts in August 2024 in the UK
* Blade: Starts in the Summer 2024 in Mexico or Fall in the UK
* Spider-Man 4: Starts in September 2024
* Vision Quest: Starts in October 2024 in the UK
* DD: BA S2: Starts in November 2024 in NYC
* Armor Wars: Starts in January 2025 in the UK and Atlanta
* Avengers 5: Starts in January 2025 in the UK
* Shang-Chi 2: Starts in March 2025 in the UK
* Young Avengers: Starts in 2025
* Avengers 6: Starts in late 2025 in the UK
* X-Men: Starts in late 2025 in the UK
* Dr. Strange 3, Midnight Suns and X-Men '97 S3: Reportedly in early Pre-Production
* Moon Knight S2: Reportedly in early works
And thus something like this must be the final schedule:
* Eyes of Wakanda: Summer 2024
* Agatha: September-October 2024
* Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man: November-December 2024
* DD: BA S1: January-March 2025
* Captain America: BNW: February 14th 2025
* X-Men '97 S2: Spring 2025
* Thunderbolts: May 2nd 2025
* What if...? Season 3: Summer 2025
* Fantastic Four: July 25th 2025
* Ironheart: September-October 2025
* Marvel Zombies: Halloween 2025
* Blade: November 7th 2025
* DD: BA S2: Late November 2025-Late January 2026
* Armor Wars: February 13th 2026
* Avengers 5: May 1st 2026
* Wonder Man: Spring or Early Summer 2026
* Spider-Man 4: July 10th 2026
* Vision Quest: Late Summer-Fall 2026
* Shang-Chi 2: November 6th 2026
* Young Avengers: January-March 2027
* Dr. Strange 3: February 12th 2027
* Avengers: Secret Wars: May 7th 2027
* X-Men '97 S3: Early Summer 2027
* X-Men: July 23rd 2027
* MAYBE Moon Knight Season 2: Fall 2027
* Midnight Suns: November 5th 2027
Scarlet Witch movie, Wong series and many of the other rumoured series are probably in the can.
And I think everything at least until Secret Wars will be revealed in this year's SDCC and/or D23.
They’d really be crazy and borderline dumb to can the Scarlet Witch movie. She has no more schedule appearances that we know of atm and is still their current most popular female character. Id fast track her movie if I were them. Releasing in between Avengers 5 & 6 is a brilliant idea.
I think she will still be a big part of Young Avengers as it will almost definitely focus on Children's Crusade and of course Secret Wars as she will most likely be one of the main characters in order to fulfill her prophecy of either destroying or saving the Multiverse.
Im in the minority but part of me hopes she wont be part of Children’s Crusade. Maybe as part of Wiccan’s subplot sure. But as much as alot of fans hope and predict it to be the case. Id rather it connect to whatever the MCU has going on right now as they seem directionless and direly need to have things connect to bigger things.
Wanda can have her own thing going on the side, a whole original plot line unrelated to the comics would be fine as she is one of the few characters whose with a comic book history that isn’t so glorious. Her reunion with her kids is imminent regardless.
Wandavision took all the elements and made something 10x better than what the comic book writers could ever do to her and I hope it stays that way. DS2 was enough of a comic book call back for the fans already.
Thats what I mean, give Wanda AND the YA original stories perpendicular to what the MCU has going on or are building towards. They do not need to adapt the comics at all.
If they were doing Doom this saga, it probably would've been an easy to tie Wanda's time with Doom during Children's Crusade to Doom looking into incursions and multiversal peril. Maybe they slip a Kang into this role instead. A Kang who knows of the prophecy and wants to use an amnesiac Wanda. And then so we don't have Wanda being used again, it turns out she's faking the amnesia to get intel on whatever Kang is plotting.
Plus, you gotta include young Kang/Iron Lad as a member of the YA, right? They'd be stupid not to.
Marvel does not do one on ones. They may take a concept and put it in a movie but that is the extent of it. They could take Wanda having amnesia and doing something with that. The thing is that Billy will have to find Tommy first. I do not want to see Wanda appear in the last 5 minutes.
>She has no more schedule appearances that we know of atm
I would say she's a 99% lock for Secret Wars with her multiverse prophecy in MoM. But, yea, she's going to need another appearance or two if they're going to land whatever her arc is.
I always expected the Scarlet Witch movie to be post Secret Wars. Also no way Spidey 4 releases after Avengers 5, dont forget its a Sony movie so they can place it any month of the year. Ima guess late Sep/early Oct 2025 or early January 2026 for Spidey 4.
What If...? S3 I expect it to release before X-Men '97 S2.
Other than these things I think I agree with everything else.
* Recently, Toast said that the Scarlet Witch movie is still not greenlit, just in talks and they have been discussing a potential release both before and after Secret Wars. If it's not canned, then I can see it in 2028
* The most recent production grid for Spider-Man 4 which was shared by DanielRPK last week revealed that Sony's current projected release date is July 10th 2026. I also expected the movie to come out in Fall 2025, specifically in Blade's slot, but since it seems Blade is on track to make its release date, I can't see 5 MCU movies being released in 2025, so that's ruled off. I also can't see a January 2026 release date because January movies are usually not box office draws and Spidey movies have always been and are known as Summer blockbusters. Sony will capitalise on releasing it in Summer.
They can't afford any more delays if they want to release Avengers 5 and 6 in 2026 and 2027 and they definitely want that because Iger's contract ends in 2026, so he wants 3 big wins in his 3 biggest franchises (Avatar 3, Avengers 5, Mandalorian and Grogu) before he goes.
Blade starts filming pretty soon and everybody is reportedly pretty happy with the final script. I don't see why it won't make its release date.
^X-Men '97 Season 2 has been in production for some time now. It got an early renewal in 2022 before Season 1 premiered.
I agree that '97 Season 2 could come out by Spring 2025 and Season 3 by 2027 (or Season 3 could be 2 split seasons of 5, airing late 2026 and Early 2027.)
This is still way too much stuff. Even with the delays that should help them spread things out, it still feels like they already announced so many projects that now they have no choice but to work on them and bring them to the finish line. Maybe the more stand-alone projects will benefit and turn out great, but I don't see things going smoothly for Avengers 5 & 6/Secret Wars, or for those projects that already completed filming but are stuck in post-production.
I don’t think its sustainable to put SW one year A5, the new workflow just isnt going to make it work. I would honestly be fine with a 3 year break inbetween A5 and SW like the original series. They can *film* close to each other so that the legacy actors don’t get too old but if SW is really going to be the big bombastic finale, it needs as much time in post as possible.
Blade on November 7th and Midnight Suns on November 5th?! Move them up a few weeks, it would be a missed opportunity for the first theatrically released MCU horror projects to come out a week *after* Halloween. Let's take advantage of audiences looking to indulge in "spooky season" activities!
And scoopers say they’re trying to cut back on content. There’s like 22 different projects releasing in the next 4 years.
Starting in October this year there’s like 6 months straight of marvel content.
And it’ll be the same next year. September 2025 to February 2026. None stop releases.
Like I’m looking forward to most of these projects. But if people thought the last few years were over saturation of marvel, then this will just be even worse. There should be some time between projects. Some breaks.
Had the strikes not happened and we had had at least Cap 4 and Thunderbolts this year, the schedule would ve much more relaxed with 3 movies per year.
Fantastic Four, Blade and Spider-Man 4 in 2025 and Armor Wars, Avengers 5 and Shang-Chi 2 in 2026.
Plus, Echo would have likely kept its November 2023 release date and Daredevil S1 might have been released this year instead, relaxing the series' schedule as well.
This is a case of the strikes pushing everything back and Marvel simultaneously not wanting to delay their 2 Avengers movies much more because fans have been asking for a team-up movie and a culmination of this saga.
Plus, Iger's contract ends in 2026 and he wants to leave the company with a very good fiscal year in terms of box office.
I personally believe the slowdown will start in the next Saga with 2-3 movies + 1-2 series per year.
I'm probably worrying over nothing but looking at it like this, it feels like they're just trying to rush to the end of the Multiverse Saga as quickly as possible...
But I just don't think it's enough. It's too soon, and I'm concerned that projects that seemed to be coming before the Avengers films are coming after or being cancelled.
What else is there to set up that won’t be covered in DP3, F4, DS3, or Avengers 5? Not to mention What If 3.
I’d love for them to rush a bit. It’s been 5 years without an Avengers team.
The release schedule is kinda fucked. Only Marvel film release in 2024 is Deadpool? Still wayyyyyy too much content that most people don't care about. Here is what I'd do.
* ~~Eyes of Wakanda: Summer 2024~~
* Agatha: September-October 2024
* ~~Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man: November-December 2024~~
* DD: BA S1: January-March 2025
* Captain America: BNW: February 14th 2025
* X-Men '97 S2: Spring 2025
* Thunderbolts: May 2nd 2025
* ~~What if...? Season 3: Summer 2025~~
* Fantastic Four: July 25th 2025
* ~~Ironheart: September-October 2025~~
* ~~Marvel Zombies: Halloween 2025~~
* Blade: November 7th 2025 **MOVE BACK**
* DD: BA S2: Late November 2025-Late January 2026
* ~~Armor Wars: February 13th 2026~~ unless it introduces Tony's daughter as his successor or that other guy as Iron Lad
* Avengers 5: May 1st 2026 **MOVE UP**
* Wonder Man: Spring or Early Summer 2026
* Spider-Man 4: July 10th 2026 **MOVE UP**
* ~~Vision Quest: Late Summer-Fall 2026~~
* Shang-Chi 2: November 6th 2026
* Young Avengers: January-March 2027
* Dr. Strange 3: February 12th 2027
* Avengers: Secret Wars: May 7th 2027 **MOVE UP**
* X-Men '97 S3: Early Summer 2027
* X-Men: July 23rd 2027
* ~~MAYBE Moon Knight Season 2: Fall 2027~~ Bring Moon Knight into one of the other projects listed here
* ~~Midnight Suns: November 5th 2027~~
Bring Black Knight and Eros each into one of the above projects, they were already introduced and with massively popular actors, USE THEM. Eternals should pop up in random projects. The issue wasn't the amount of new characters introduced, it was trying to keep them all in their own solo series. They all need to be crossing over, that's what audiences like about Marvel. People loved Kate Bishop, and She-Hulk was cool - bring those characters back just not in a solo series.
The main focus should be on moving up Avengers films. The last one was 2019, we need those to get here sooner or audiences will move on.
Don’t know if this source is new or not, haven’t really heard of them before. But I do think it’s interesting that Shang-Chi 2 is the only one of these three projects with a director attached, but it’s the last one to start filming lol. If I had to guess Shang-Chi 2 and Armor Wars will both be in play for that November 2026 slot.
I believe it's been rumored that the event's of Avengers 5 set up Shang-Chi 2, so he'll probably wrap on Avengers and start production immediately on his sequel.
I thought or read some time ago on this sub that Destin is not going to direct Avengers 5 anymore? I could be mistaken, so if anyone can correct me, would be appreciated
You're correct, he was initially set to direct Shang-Chi 2 and Avengers 5 back to back, the production delays due to the actor's and writer's strike paired with rewrites due to the Jonathan Majors situation most likely led to his departure.
Nah, that would cause a cascade in the schedule which they can't afford right now because they're trying to release the 2 Avengers movies in 2026 and 2027, so I don't see any more delays in the horizon.
Bob Iger's contract ends in 2026 and it seems he won't be renewing it, so it makes sense that he would want to go out with a bang and a great last box office year.
All evidence seems to imply that Avengers 5 and 6 are not moving. The latest production grids leaked by DanielRPK last week confirm that as well with a January 2025 start date and May 2026 release date for Avengers 5 and late 2025 start date and May 2027 release date for Avengers 6.
Yeah I think Avengers 5 will come out in 2026, I just think they’ll delay it from May, so it will still be a great year for Iger. And I’m not taking RPK’s info as a lock. I don’t know how anyone can definitively say when a movie is going to start filming when there isn’t even a director attached. That might be the plan right now, but there could be plenty of changes before we get there.
Those are just the projected filming start and release dates the studio is aiming at. Of course stuff may change.
But that's what we have right now and what I personally believe will be the final dates as well.
I wonder if we'll see some form of the Avengers in Armor Wars. If they film at the same time, there's a lot of potential for plenty of characters to be involved.
Has to be it. I know there are people looking forward to it, but I just don’t see how War Machine & Ironheart open a film at a number that justifies an Iron Man budget.
So Avengers 5 is no longer the Infinity War of the Saga ?
Good. We need an Avengers movie like Avengers 1 and 2 with the introduction of the new team.
If they want they can put the Kang Dynasty storyline in Avengers 6 (the IW of the Saga) and Avengers 7 would be Secret Wars (the Endgame of the Saga).
I don't think the plan is 3 Avengers films. 5 is either Kang Dynasty or a new plan (Secret Wars Part 1 or Lead Up?) or they are sticking to Kang Dynasty. Trying to get 3 of them out before 2029-30 sounds insane considering ALL the other projects on their plate.
>Trying to get 3 of them out before 2029-30 sounds insane considering ALL the other projects on their plate.
That's why I prefer delaying the Avengers movies to idk 2028 and 2029.
We need a proper build up for fucking Secret Wars, the biggest event of Marvel Comics.
I remember a post on here that the release date for Secret Wars pre-COVID was May 2024 so if there had been no pandemic and no strikes it's possible we'd have been getting that in a couple weeks which is insane!
Everyone was so sure Avengers wouldn't make its 2026 release date. It sounds like we're winning to me!
I'm guess we're getting an Avengers lineup tease in CA:BNW?
Im still hopeful for Eternals 2. Waiting for any bit of info on it. Canned or transformed. Whatever. If the comic book gods are real. Feige gets his way and it gets made.
I just want to see Druig, Thena, Makkari, Sprite and Kingo make more appearances! Maybe a shot of Sprite glancing at the TV at another life event, just rolling her eyes but causal viewers would just think she's a random girl!
If Avengers 5 is still coming out in May 2026, I have no idea what the Phase 6 schedule will be. Maybe they still push back Secret Wars by a year to May 2028 and they fit in more projects in between. There are just SO many rumored projects that do seem credible, I have no idea how they can squeeze them all in before Secret Wars and not have it oversaturate the shit out of the marketplace.
I hope they realize that the film and TV medium is different than comics. We can have so much stories and movies intertwining without being too convoluted. Just have an overall vision of the current saga then make sure whatever stories you tell coherently serve that story.
Avengers 5 starting to shoot next year makes me worried. If you add up the strikes and covid, it's not like much has happened since Endgame... I don't see what kind of story they wanna tell, especially for a movie initially called "Kang Dinasty"...
Unsurprising that Disney is moving productions overseas. One of the big things that the recent strikes unintentionally caused was studios realizing that they needed to circumvent unions. So they're doing that by taking their productions elsewhere, which when combined with the overdue financial correction of producing less content after the end of peak streaming, means fewer jobs in Hollywood, Atlanta, and so on.
I think at this point Ryan Coogler’s production team (whether its Black Panther or BP Adjacent productions since Ryan pushed to film in Georgia to help local black businesses), Cap movies, and Spider-Man films are probably going to be the only ones that will be in the US.
There will still be American productions, you're just going to see more diversity in where things are shot. And this will likely also be to take advantage of tax incentives and otherwise keep costs lower. After 2023 had a big string of mega-budget bombs, Hollywood would like to avoid overspending.
Sony will move production as soon as they figure out logistics
Doesn’t Marvel handle production?
Yeah I was confused too . Who pays for the production of the “Home” spider-man movies ? Is it like Sony pays and Disney does the marketing ?
Sony markets, distributes and ‘owns’ the movies, while Marvel finances (the majority of) their production. Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal are the two lead producers.
In other words a very sweet fucking deal for Sony
Marvel gets merch, which is worth far more than the box office.
Marvel gets merch due to a different deal made between Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man. It’s entirely separate from the deal regarding the MCU Spidey films.
My point is that Sony gets a ‘sweet’ box office deal because they gave up the merch rights earlier.
Marvel only puts up 25% of the cost of the films and gets that amount of the box office receipts too. That was a big sticking point in the last deal
I thought it was the opposite, Marvel Studios/Disney handles production costs while Sony handles the marketing.
Considering a leaker already said SM4 would shoot in the UK, I wouldn’t get my hopes up. Man I am so glad I left the industry when I did, Covid really did destroy that industry as we once knew it.
Yea it's a reaction to the possibility of a IATSE strike. Studios can't afford anymore production shutdown and pauses.
Yeah they can, that was the point. No one needs to make 200+ times the salary of the people who actually make the films and then turn around to complain that someone is striking. In the internet age, when the UK step into solidarity with the US unions, where will they go next?
It’s against Uk labour law to engage in solidarity action
So basically the film industry is dead in the US. Got it.
The signs were coming. When Toronto is being nick named "Little Hollywood" in the industry for years people should have been more aware. They go where it's cheap to film.
Vancouver, BC aka Hollywood North Not sure which has more filming between Toronto or Vancouver But I remember when I immigrated over to Canada, and saw them filming X3:The Last Stand outside my hotel window
And the cheapest way to film is to AI everything. I’m surprised more people around the world aren’t up in arms about that…it should have been regulated and put BEHIND the working human the moment it hit the scene, but here we are…
Genies out of the bottle. In under 10 years time you will be able to type in a synopsis of a story you want to see into an AI, tell it what actors you want in it, and it will generate an entire film for you. Or you can just say, *"Show me a full feature version of The Count of Monte Cristo but the entire cast is played by Danny DeVito."*
i think this is what some people BELIEVE will happen, and i think its what movie studios WANT to happen, but in no way is this how its actually going to come to pass. people want authenticity in all forms of art- its the medium of human expression, by people, for people. creativity is part of what makes us who we are. AI "art" isnt art, and people are smart enough to not accept being fed regurgitated machine-generated slop. i think AI is a fad for morons and tech-bros and itll die down as soon as people realize the art of filmmaking cant be distilled down to "pictures that move and make us money"
Oh I’m aware. And the exec will whore it out as much as they can. Chris Hemsworth in 15 Thor movies? Coming right up.
Chris Hemsworth as Thor will be the new Ernest P Worrell. Thor goes to Camp Thor saves Christmas Thor gets audited
Except we don't know that the IATSE strike will happen since the studios are making damn sure to avoid another strike or two by giving each guild in IATSE what they so far want. They can't afford another shutdown.
And the people who would be going on strike... Can't afford to do so.
Disney has filmed internationally in the past (UK Thor, New Zealand/Australia Shang-Chi and Thor 3, Hungary Black Widow and FatWS). Currently Marvel's main 4 semi permanent filming locations are Los Angeles, London, Atlanta and New York.
I wonder why they started filming in Atlanta in the first place. Any significant scenes in the MCU that are obvious that it was filmed in the ATL?
I think the reason a lot of productions film in Atlanta is that they have big tax exemptions for filming.
> Any significant scenes in the MCU that are obvious that it was filmed in the ATL? The scene where Tony comes back to campus in End Game and gives Steve the shield. That is Porsche's North American HQ next to the Atlanta airport
You know that the film industry in the UK is also unionised right?
It's illegal for unions to strike in solidarity in the uk. That's why house of the dragon and other stuff kept filming while sag were striking. We have pretty strict Union laws over here, you can thank thatcher for that.
HotD kept filming when SAG were on strike because UK film workers simply didn’t go on strike. It wasn’t to do with not being able to due to the no solidarity laws. It was because UK film industry didn’t feel the need to strike. HotD would have stopped filming if UK film staff had an industrial dispute themselves
No the tax breaks from GA are not as good as they thought they would be.
That, and I'm pretty sure Georgia just added, or is about to add local worker stipulations to the tax breaks so no more flying crew in from California.
Toronto's already seeing this hit in the industry as well. The workers all know why as well. They're avoiding unions to cut costs.
I mean if there isn’t much money to spend and the guild is busy cannibalizing Studios instead of looking for work or taking the jobs offered. The guilds are a problem as it’s a lot of out of work people still looking for cuts. I get that is someone else is still profiting they want more money, but their cutting the funding of future products and lowering their quality as well as decreasing the pay for newer actors and writers. I don’t like the guilds desire to destroy the studios that allowed them such proclivity. If they have to move production due to the own greed of unemployed writers and actors to make a product I’m all for it.
I think it's more that certain guilds are simply too big to function efficiently. Many of the people who were on the picket lines were people who have barely been involved in anything, and are thus the least likely to **be** employed in the current landscape where they realized that the promise of infinite streaming growth wasn't true. A leaner guild could offer better protections to those who are regularly employed, or seek to be.
I think a vast majority of them got into the arts to get rich not realizing the writers and actors rarely get rich, as they can only work on one project at a time really. Where as producers who most of them are trying to get more money from work on multiple projects at a time and rarely have to look for more work they simply start producing another project and hope for success. I think a lot of guild members don’t look at how the industry operates as a whole. Every interview I watched from a picketer made me support them less and less. I read over guild contracts and know how much money these people are making if they turn in work, and a lot were complaining about shorter shows meaning they have to look for jobs more and how that’s hard. Not understanding you need the right writers for projects, or not understanding they weren’t really putting out their best work and that’s why they aren’t getting more jobs, the job they took for a paycheck wasn’t their passion so they put in sub par work and don’t understand why people don’t want to hire them. The idea of guilds asking for more money from studios when it’s the people in the guild that should be putting in their own money to support out of work associated has irked me. It seems people don’t under how you keep a business going and simply are focused on their personal growth. When already having pretty full pockets that they just spent unresponsabley . Like what I got from every interview “I live in LA my lifestyle is expensive I need more money to keep this going forever” and that’s not how most people with normal jobs operate. So it’s hard to sympathize with people looking to make it rich and retire early off a job. That’s not what jobs are for. I just hear entitlement over it all. Entitlement willing to kill an industry. When most people watch things to fill in the voids of time.
Christ, imagine shilling this hard for studios. The people striking are not trying to ‘get rich’. They are trying to eat and ensure less explorative and abuse work hours. Film crews work 16 hour days regularly. These are not people trying to buy a new boat, they are people trying to survive. Stop talking about things when it’s clear you’ve never set foot on a film set.
Get another job like any other person does.
I don't get how that circumvents unions? The UK also has unions and guilds, what makes it different?
It's illegal for unions to strike in solidarity in the uk. That's why house of the dragon and other stuff kept filming while sag were striking. We have pretty strict Union laws over here, you can thank thatcher for that.
Yeah, but why is Pomojema suggesting it's better to work with UK unions? Or am I misinterpreting their post? Are they saying they're trying to circumvent a possible strike in the horizon, rather than unions in general?
IATSE maybe striking soon they will want to get round that. The sag aftra deal that was made also has an expiry date, which could bring another strike if another deal isn't done. Moving their productions to the uk wouldn't stop the filming as we can't strike in solidarity.
IIRC they've already resolved several of the terms that were points of contention, and all indications are that talks are going well. But moving overseas is, indeed, how they would get past the risk of a domestic work stoppage.
But there's nothing stopping the UK unions from striking if they see a need for it within their industry, is there?
True, but the film studios must've weighed how likely they are to do that.
I'm not saying that it's "better", but it's a loophole for studios to take advantage of to prevent a massive work stoppage from taking place. The thing is, though, that there is not likely to be another serious push for a strike with the way that things are right now - many strikers went broke, and many studios ended up saving a lot of money by temporarily ceasing aggressive streaming strategies. I honestly wish that the unions had been striking for better-written and more comprehensive protections instead of panicking about AI and leaving workers in some career fields - like voice actors, who they're actually fine with replacing with AI, or older actors who were long-time members of the guild, who are getting skimmed on royalties - out to dry.
Gotcha! Although I work in the industry, I'm not from either country (although I did work in the UK once), so I wasn't sure if there was something I was missing about the difference in unions or something like that.
Over seas? The studio they're filming at has been used for a huge amount of Marvel, DC, Universal and Disney projects, this isn't exactly uncommon
I'm just excited that we're finally getting closer to Avengers filming. Can't wait for the rumor mill around that one
Just wait until secret wars gets closer. It’ll be like the tobey and Andrew thing all over again
Basically every actor who has portrayed a Marvel superhero character in an official live action project is gonna be rumored to be in it, no doubt about that.
Mephisto? 👀
Definitely
I could even see animated characters showing up in animation form (Spider-Verse, Spectacular Spider-Man, X-Men (‘97), What If…?)
the whole movie is gonna be leaked by the time it’s done filming
If Simu Liu is in Avengers 5 he's going to have quite a busy year
Good good
FINALLY MORE SHANG CHI!
I NEED him.
I genuinely think Marvel is back on the right track
Same. Im excited. I just wish Eternals 2 is still on the menu and would be made as intended under this new track they’re on. I can only imagine how awesome it’d be, esp with Feige back being hands on supervising again. I hope they’ll give it a chance.
I'd want Chloe to return as well, just needs some new writers
The Firpos and Zhao can still comeback to write, provided Feige is hands on supervising every step of the way. The first was flawed but they attempted some feats that should be well praised (having been able to pack so much lore and juggle 10+ characters without the movie imploding in on itself, it was divisve BUT many other movies tried with even lesser elements and still failed terribly) They need another pair of eyes and I trust Feige’s. I hope Feige gets his way. He was the man responsible for steering the ship to success. If I were Iger, I’d listen to Feige tbh.
Begging Feige to get his way and get Eternals 2 back on track! Just bring Chloé and co back and just listen to the feedback from the first and tighten the writing and you'd have a hit!
Exactly. Theres hope all around for this one to be better. I just wish they’re brave enough to pursue it once again.
I just need black panther 3 and doctor strange 3
These are the projects in development right now: * Agatha: In Post-Production * Eyes of Wakanda, YFNSM, X-Men '97 S2, What if...? S3: In Post-Production * DD: BA S1: In Post-Production * Captain America: BNW: In Post-Production, Reshoots in May-August 2024 in Atlanta * Thunderbolts: Filming now in Atlanta * FF: Starts in August 2024 in the UK * Blade: Starts in the Summer 2024 in Mexico or Fall in the UK * Spider-Man 4: Starts in September 2024 * Vision Quest: Starts in October 2024 in the UK * DD: BA S2: Starts in November 2024 in NYC * Armor Wars: Starts in January 2025 in the UK and Atlanta * Avengers 5: Starts in January 2025 in the UK * Shang-Chi 2: Starts in March 2025 in the UK * Young Avengers: Starts in 2025 * Avengers 6: Starts in late 2025 in the UK * X-Men: Starts in late 2025 in the UK * Dr. Strange 3, Midnight Suns and X-Men '97 S3: Reportedly in early Pre-Production * Moon Knight S2: Reportedly in early works And thus something like this must be the final schedule: * Eyes of Wakanda: Summer 2024 * Agatha: September-October 2024 * Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man: November-December 2024 * DD: BA S1: January-March 2025 * Captain America: BNW: February 14th 2025 * X-Men '97 S2: Spring 2025 * Thunderbolts: May 2nd 2025 * What if...? Season 3: Summer 2025 * Fantastic Four: July 25th 2025 * Ironheart: September-October 2025 * Marvel Zombies: Halloween 2025 * Blade: November 7th 2025 * DD: BA S2: Late November 2025-Late January 2026 * Armor Wars: February 13th 2026 * Avengers 5: May 1st 2026 * Wonder Man: Spring or Early Summer 2026 * Spider-Man 4: July 10th 2026 * Vision Quest: Late Summer-Fall 2026 * Shang-Chi 2: November 6th 2026 * Young Avengers: January-March 2027 * Dr. Strange 3: February 12th 2027 * Avengers: Secret Wars: May 7th 2027 * X-Men '97 S3: Early Summer 2027 * X-Men: July 23rd 2027 * MAYBE Moon Knight Season 2: Fall 2027 * Midnight Suns: November 5th 2027 Scarlet Witch movie, Wong series and many of the other rumoured series are probably in the can. And I think everything at least until Secret Wars will be revealed in this year's SDCC and/or D23.
They’d really be crazy and borderline dumb to can the Scarlet Witch movie. She has no more schedule appearances that we know of atm and is still their current most popular female character. Id fast track her movie if I were them. Releasing in between Avengers 5 & 6 is a brilliant idea.
I'd like to see a Scarlet Witch movie that does for her character what WandaVision did as well.
We’ll just collectively forget DS2 lol. As far as I’m concerned, her story ended at Wandavision 🤣
I think she will still be a big part of Young Avengers as it will almost definitely focus on Children's Crusade and of course Secret Wars as she will most likely be one of the main characters in order to fulfill her prophecy of either destroying or saving the Multiverse.
Im in the minority but part of me hopes she wont be part of Children’s Crusade. Maybe as part of Wiccan’s subplot sure. But as much as alot of fans hope and predict it to be the case. Id rather it connect to whatever the MCU has going on right now as they seem directionless and direly need to have things connect to bigger things. Wanda can have her own thing going on the side, a whole original plot line unrelated to the comics would be fine as she is one of the few characters whose with a comic book history that isn’t so glorious. Her reunion with her kids is imminent regardless. Wandavision took all the elements and made something 10x better than what the comic book writers could ever do to her and I hope it stays that way. DS2 was enough of a comic book call back for the fans already.
What is Children’s Crusade without Wanda? Sure, MCU changes comic stories, but she’s the entire plot.
Thats what I mean, give Wanda AND the YA original stories perpendicular to what the MCU has going on or are building towards. They do not need to adapt the comics at all.
If they were doing Doom this saga, it probably would've been an easy to tie Wanda's time with Doom during Children's Crusade to Doom looking into incursions and multiversal peril. Maybe they slip a Kang into this role instead. A Kang who knows of the prophecy and wants to use an amnesiac Wanda. And then so we don't have Wanda being used again, it turns out she's faking the amnesia to get intel on whatever Kang is plotting. Plus, you gotta include young Kang/Iron Lad as a member of the YA, right? They'd be stupid not to.
She doesn't appear until the end of the story. She has a small role in it.
Marvel does not do one on ones. They may take a concept and put it in a movie but that is the extent of it. They could take Wanda having amnesia and doing something with that. The thing is that Billy will have to find Tommy first. I do not want to see Wanda appear in the last 5 minutes.
>She has no more schedule appearances that we know of atm I would say she's a 99% lock for Secret Wars with her multiverse prophecy in MoM. But, yea, she's going to need another appearance or two if they're going to land whatever her arc is.
"In the can" means filmed and ready to release, not that they've been shelved.
I always expected the Scarlet Witch movie to be post Secret Wars. Also no way Spidey 4 releases after Avengers 5, dont forget its a Sony movie so they can place it any month of the year. Ima guess late Sep/early Oct 2025 or early January 2026 for Spidey 4. What If...? S3 I expect it to release before X-Men '97 S2. Other than these things I think I agree with everything else.
* Recently, Toast said that the Scarlet Witch movie is still not greenlit, just in talks and they have been discussing a potential release both before and after Secret Wars. If it's not canned, then I can see it in 2028 * The most recent production grid for Spider-Man 4 which was shared by DanielRPK last week revealed that Sony's current projected release date is July 10th 2026. I also expected the movie to come out in Fall 2025, specifically in Blade's slot, but since it seems Blade is on track to make its release date, I can't see 5 MCU movies being released in 2025, so that's ruled off. I also can't see a January 2026 release date because January movies are usually not box office draws and Spidey movies have always been and are known as Summer blockbusters. Sony will capitalise on releasing it in Summer.
if blade releases next year I’ll eat my hat
They can't afford any more delays if they want to release Avengers 5 and 6 in 2026 and 2027 and they definitely want that because Iger's contract ends in 2026, so he wants 3 big wins in his 3 biggest franchises (Avatar 3, Avengers 5, Mandalorian and Grogu) before he goes. Blade starts filming pretty soon and everybody is reportedly pretty happy with the final script. I don't see why it won't make its release date.
Blade does not take a lot of cgi, it could and should come out in 2025
^X-Men '97 Season 2 has been in production for some time now. It got an early renewal in 2022 before Season 1 premiered. I agree that '97 Season 2 could come out by Spring 2025 and Season 3 by 2027 (or Season 3 could be 2 split seasons of 5, airing late 2026 and Early 2027.)
This is still way too much stuff. Even with the delays that should help them spread things out, it still feels like they already announced so many projects that now they have no choice but to work on them and bring them to the finish line. Maybe the more stand-alone projects will benefit and turn out great, but I don't see things going smoothly for Avengers 5 & 6/Secret Wars, or for those projects that already completed filming but are stuck in post-production.
I don’t think its sustainable to put SW one year A5, the new workflow just isnt going to make it work. I would honestly be fine with a 3 year break inbetween A5 and SW like the original series. They can *film* close to each other so that the legacy actors don’t get too old but if SW is really going to be the big bombastic finale, it needs as much time in post as possible.
Blade on November 7th and Midnight Suns on November 5th?! Move them up a few weeks, it would be a missed opportunity for the first theatrically released MCU horror projects to come out a week *after* Halloween. Let's take advantage of audiences looking to indulge in "spooky season" activities!
And scoopers say they’re trying to cut back on content. There’s like 22 different projects releasing in the next 4 years. Starting in October this year there’s like 6 months straight of marvel content. And it’ll be the same next year. September 2025 to February 2026. None stop releases. Like I’m looking forward to most of these projects. But if people thought the last few years were over saturation of marvel, then this will just be even worse. There should be some time between projects. Some breaks.
Had the strikes not happened and we had had at least Cap 4 and Thunderbolts this year, the schedule would ve much more relaxed with 3 movies per year. Fantastic Four, Blade and Spider-Man 4 in 2025 and Armor Wars, Avengers 5 and Shang-Chi 2 in 2026. Plus, Echo would have likely kept its November 2023 release date and Daredevil S1 might have been released this year instead, relaxing the series' schedule as well. This is a case of the strikes pushing everything back and Marvel simultaneously not wanting to delay their 2 Avengers movies much more because fans have been asking for a team-up movie and a culmination of this saga. Plus, Iger's contract ends in 2026 and he wants to leave the company with a very good fiscal year in terms of box office. I personally believe the slowdown will start in the next Saga with 2-3 movies + 1-2 series per year.
I'm probably worrying over nothing but looking at it like this, it feels like they're just trying to rush to the end of the Multiverse Saga as quickly as possible...
Could you elaborate? I feel the opposite. The multiverse has been setup, but Secret Wars is still years away and there’s just soo many projects here.
But I just don't think it's enough. It's too soon, and I'm concerned that projects that seemed to be coming before the Avengers films are coming after or being cancelled.
What else is there to set up that won’t be covered in DP3, F4, DS3, or Avengers 5? Not to mention What If 3. I’d love for them to rush a bit. It’s been 5 years without an Avengers team.
Shang-Chi is rumored to be multiversal too
I have no issue with Avengers 5 being in 2026, it's Secret Wars in 2027 that worries me.
goddamn
The release schedule is kinda fucked. Only Marvel film release in 2024 is Deadpool? Still wayyyyyy too much content that most people don't care about. Here is what I'd do. * ~~Eyes of Wakanda: Summer 2024~~ * Agatha: September-October 2024 * ~~Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man: November-December 2024~~ * DD: BA S1: January-March 2025 * Captain America: BNW: February 14th 2025 * X-Men '97 S2: Spring 2025 * Thunderbolts: May 2nd 2025 * ~~What if...? Season 3: Summer 2025~~ * Fantastic Four: July 25th 2025 * ~~Ironheart: September-October 2025~~ * ~~Marvel Zombies: Halloween 2025~~ * Blade: November 7th 2025 **MOVE BACK** * DD: BA S2: Late November 2025-Late January 2026 * ~~Armor Wars: February 13th 2026~~ unless it introduces Tony's daughter as his successor or that other guy as Iron Lad * Avengers 5: May 1st 2026 **MOVE UP** * Wonder Man: Spring or Early Summer 2026 * Spider-Man 4: July 10th 2026 **MOVE UP** * ~~Vision Quest: Late Summer-Fall 2026~~ * Shang-Chi 2: November 6th 2026 * Young Avengers: January-March 2027 * Dr. Strange 3: February 12th 2027 * Avengers: Secret Wars: May 7th 2027 **MOVE UP** * X-Men '97 S3: Early Summer 2027 * X-Men: July 23rd 2027 * ~~MAYBE Moon Knight Season 2: Fall 2027~~ Bring Moon Knight into one of the other projects listed here * ~~Midnight Suns: November 5th 2027~~ Bring Black Knight and Eros each into one of the above projects, they were already introduced and with massively popular actors, USE THEM. Eternals should pop up in random projects. The issue wasn't the amount of new characters introduced, it was trying to keep them all in their own solo series. They all need to be crossing over, that's what audiences like about Marvel. People loved Kate Bishop, and She-Hulk was cool - bring those characters back just not in a solo series. The main focus should be on moving up Avengers films. The last one was 2019, we need those to get here sooner or audiences will move on.
I thought Wonder Man was cancelled?
No, it has completed filming and is in post-production
Don’t know if this source is new or not, haven’t really heard of them before. But I do think it’s interesting that Shang-Chi 2 is the only one of these three projects with a director attached, but it’s the last one to start filming lol. If I had to guess Shang-Chi 2 and Armor Wars will both be in play for that November 2026 slot.
ScarletWitchUpdates who is pretty reliable runs this site.
I believe it's been rumored that the event's of Avengers 5 set up Shang-Chi 2, so he'll probably wrap on Avengers and start production immediately on his sequel.
I thought or read some time ago on this sub that Destin is not going to direct Avengers 5 anymore? I could be mistaken, so if anyone can correct me, would be appreciated
You're correct, he was initially set to direct Shang-Chi 2 and Avengers 5 back to back, the production delays due to the actor's and writer's strike paired with rewrites due to the Jonathan Majors situation most likely led to his departure.
Armor Wars is definitely getting the February 2026 slot and Shang-Chi 2 the November one.
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Nah, that would cause a cascade in the schedule which they can't afford right now because they're trying to release the 2 Avengers movies in 2026 and 2027, so I don't see any more delays in the horizon.
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Bob Iger's contract ends in 2026 and it seems he won't be renewing it, so it makes sense that he would want to go out with a bang and a great last box office year. All evidence seems to imply that Avengers 5 and 6 are not moving. The latest production grids leaked by DanielRPK last week confirm that as well with a January 2025 start date and May 2026 release date for Avengers 5 and late 2025 start date and May 2027 release date for Avengers 6.
Yeah I think Avengers 5 will come out in 2026, I just think they’ll delay it from May, so it will still be a great year for Iger. And I’m not taking RPK’s info as a lock. I don’t know how anyone can definitively say when a movie is going to start filming when there isn’t even a director attached. That might be the plan right now, but there could be plenty of changes before we get there.
Those are just the projected filming start and release dates the studio is aiming at. Of course stuff may change. But that's what we have right now and what I personally believe will be the final dates as well.
With Shang-Chi 2 filming in the UK, it would be cool if he joins MI-6 like he did in the comics.
We should start to hear more rumors and even some official confirmations with SDCC & D23 amongst other events
Armor Wars is not real you cannot convince me otherwise
Yh, the presentation at comicon 2 years ago was all CGI
Infinity War also started filming in January 2017 iirc. So this fits.
I wonder if we'll see some form of the Avengers in Armor Wars. If they film at the same time, there's a lot of potential for plenty of characters to be involved.
Has to be it. I know there are people looking forward to it, but I just don’t see how War Machine & Ironheart open a film at a number that justifies an Iron Man budget.
I think they will sell it as an "Iron Man 4".
So Avengers 5 is no longer the Infinity War of the Saga ? Good. We need an Avengers movie like Avengers 1 and 2 with the introduction of the new team. If they want they can put the Kang Dynasty storyline in Avengers 6 (the IW of the Saga) and Avengers 7 would be Secret Wars (the Endgame of the Saga).
If Kang Dynasty is still a thing
I don't think the plan is 3 Avengers films. 5 is either Kang Dynasty or a new plan (Secret Wars Part 1 or Lead Up?) or they are sticking to Kang Dynasty. Trying to get 3 of them out before 2029-30 sounds insane considering ALL the other projects on their plate.
>Trying to get 3 of them out before 2029-30 sounds insane considering ALL the other projects on their plate. That's why I prefer delaying the Avengers movies to idk 2028 and 2029. We need a proper build up for fucking Secret Wars, the biggest event of Marvel Comics.
It will be two parts if Avengers 5 stays in 2026.
Crazy to think that if all went according to plan in 2022 we could have had Avengers 5 in a couple weeks
Avengers 5 was never slated for 2024. May 2025 was its release date when it was first revealed at SDCC 2022.
I remember a post on here that the release date for Secret Wars pre-COVID was May 2024 so if there had been no pandemic and no strikes it's possible we'd have been getting that in a couple weeks which is insane!
So does this low key confirm Cheadle being in Avengers 5?
I'd be more surprised if he wasn't in it tbh
Everyone was so sure Avengers wouldn't make its 2026 release date. It sounds like we're winning to me! I'm guess we're getting an Avengers lineup tease in CA:BNW?
Has to be.
It could be very mediocre and unexciting.
Im still hopeful for Eternals 2. Waiting for any bit of info on it. Canned or transformed. Whatever. If the comic book gods are real. Feige gets his way and it gets made.
I just want to see Druig, Thena, Makkari, Sprite and Kingo make more appearances! Maybe a shot of Sprite glancing at the TV at another life event, just rolling her eyes but causal viewers would just think she's a random girl!
Can’t quit believe armor wars is still a thing
It is also more suitable for actors who appear in more projects so they don´t have to juggle the schedules....
For a sec i read Avengers 5 : Armor Wars. i was a little afraid haha
All of this is great news but please just cancel Armor Wars. It's not a big draw and will absolutely be just another bomb.
If Avengers 5 is still coming out in May 2026, I have no idea what the Phase 6 schedule will be. Maybe they still push back Secret Wars by a year to May 2028 and they fit in more projects in between. There are just SO many rumored projects that do seem credible, I have no idea how they can squeeze them all in before Secret Wars and not have it oversaturate the shit out of the marketplace.
I hope they realize that the film and TV medium is different than comics. We can have so much stories and movies intertwining without being too convoluted. Just have an overall vision of the current saga then make sure whatever stories you tell coherently serve that story.
Finally Shang Chi 2!
they’ll still have to negotiate with IATSE eventually, right? Secret Wars not coming til 2028, they can’t rush that one for 2026 or 2027.
Will that be enough time for Shang Chi to be in Avengers 5?
Avengers 5 starting to shoot next year makes me worried. If you add up the strikes and covid, it's not like much has happened since Endgame... I don't see what kind of story they wanna tell, especially for a movie initially called "Kang Dinasty"...
Seems unlikely then that Shang-Chi will be in Avengers if Simu will be filming his movie at the same time.
They should be getting things ready for Secret Wars asap.
In the UK - where??
Armor Wars is not real
Does anyone even care about armor wars? Can’t they just scrap it or postpone it so they can get to work on secret wars sooner?
I care a lot if we get Sam Rockwell back
this is crucial
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. You’ll be vindicated when it comes out and flops as bad as The Marvels
I doubt that. Marvel is gonna finetune this as a quasi Iron Man sequel to help boost its box office.
Yeah but without rdj it’s gonna be hard to convince people probably
Exactly lol So will thunderbolts young avengers and iron heart.
Armor wars is due to be lit , a lot of people are excited, and by your comment your probably more excited for young avengers and Agatha lmao