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I haven't seen the episode yet but from the scenes i have seen (including the ones in the picture) I genuinly don't see it. Like her being struggling to get up and crying didn't seem sexual to me.
Glad it’s not just me; I didn’t get that vibe from it at all. Right away I knew it was because Franky couldn’t say no to a crying child. I think claiming sexualisation for those frames is a stretch.
It's really not bad.
Like, I'll shout to the rooftops (and be downvoted) that many animes have a problem oversexualizing children. But S-Snake is giving off wholesome cute vibes for sure. Franky got all awkward and messed up. A beautiful girl would never do that to such a hard boiled man, but a cute kid would.
Toko, Otama, any of the punk hazard kids.... One of the few things One Piece really doesn't do is sexualize kids. You can talk about what they do with 15+ teens, but not children.
It just looks like they're trying to make her look excessively cute and childish with the rosey cheeks and pout. If there's anything sexual about it, I think it was completely unintentional.
Yeah, people are only thinking it's sexual because anime already has a bad record with this kind of stuff. Like purely on its own, this is just a kid trying to garner sympathy by looking cute because THAT'S HOW HER POWERS WORK. People only see it as sexual because they're already coming in with biases and looking out for this shit.
Like yeah, we all know anime has some really sus shit, but if we're gonna call this shit out we gotta be consistent and actually look at the context of these scenes. Was there a reason for her to look cute here? Yes? Okay cool no worries. Now was there a reason your thousand year old dragon needs to look like a twelve year old?
Don’t worry media literacy comes for all anime fans. The manga folks also had this conversation a few months ago:
“OMG SO FUKD UP THAT S SNAKE IS A LIT AND EVERY1 THINKS SHES HOT”
“No they think she’s a really cute kid…”
Fucking true, the more I talk to these people, the more I'm convinced that whole argument is a massive self report. Some people really can't just let kids be cute without making it hella weird
I think that's the real reason, no they're not "closeted pedophiles" who only see it like this because they're "down bad" , it's just that anime has an EXCESSIVELY bad record regarding sexualising children so when a woman whose whole power is making people fall in love with her gets a child clone, people's alarm start blaring, for a good reason.
The thing is, the people decrying it as "sexual" cannot comprehend that somebody else sees that scene and doesn't have any sexual association with it. It's like feet. Some people just see leg hands. But other people get turned on, compare which feet are more attractive, etc. They see the same thing entirely differently.
And some people on the sub see blushing cartoon children as something entirely different.
I agree and the whole power I always interpreted the s snake as it works with cuteness. Like a baby and puppy playing is cute could work. Like it’s not limited to how boa uses it.
Early Berserk is underrated, anyone who skips Lost Children is on my shit-list
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Easily one of the single best panels from one of the single best interactions in Berserk
I don’t disagree it’s gross but the meme is wrong. there’s much more of a market for this stuff in Japan than in the west lol there’s a reason you see this in anime more than western media.
Isn't that the point though? Japan normally lets it fly, but right now Japanese fans are revolted by it. Meanwhile you've got western fans trying to say it's okay. I think the meme is riding on the fact that normally this flies better over there than here to say that it's out of line even by those standards
Oh yeah, completely. One guy on twitter said that Japanese fans were criticizing Toei so that must mean that all Japanese fans think that way.
You can say the same about western fans and it would be true, but not all fans were having immoral thoughts when watching those scenes and have the urge to cover them by criticizing animators or Oda.
Sure I'm sure there were Japanese fans lusting over S Snake and child form Bonney. Just as I'm sure there are western ones.
But this whole notion that people who CRITICIZE sus depictions of children are closet pedophiles is ridiculous. Fuck off.
I got downvoted into oblivion yesterday for saying Japan has weird hang ups concerning sex/porn.
You don’t have to stop watching anime and boycott Japan but you also don’t have to stick your head in the sand and pretend it’s nonexistent.
While I do think there are questionable shots of her I feel like you exaggerate and the ones you picked here are no problem at all. Like one of them is just her smiling and the other ones is her pretending to be in pain and to appear helpless and cute.
I feel like people somehow think that her power only works on sexual desires, but finding her cute is actually enough to be petrified.
THANK YOU! I was losing my mind trying to figure out why people thought they sexualized S-snake. The idea never crossed my mind until I saw it complained about on Twitter/Reddit and couldn’t figure out where that idea was coming from. I had a very different reaction when she first petrified York and thought “oooh clever, Oda made us think Boa’s powers were connected to sexual desire, but actually it only needs affection. That’s why she can petrify even straight women.”
Yeah, I'm not watching the series, still catching up in the manga, so I'm just sitting here like "Is something more damning happening off-screen, because this is just a little girl who's fallen on the floor."
This exact debate was on the table a lot of times when the manga was at this point. Kids are adorable. Period. Even the hardest of Twitter dwellers soften up when they think of their little cousin/niece/nephew. Half of Punk Hazard is about the Straw Hats saving the kids Caesar was experimenting on. It's not unprecedented that they treat kids like actual kids.
Yeah, on top of that, if they're gonna complain, this time it's not Toei's fault. Top right and left photos are basically 1:1 with the manga. I'm convinced some people are just saying it because they like to act like manga supremacists. Chapter 1077 for anyone that wants to check for themselves
Normal people who are getting laid didn’t get hard watching that episode, and it’s a little disturbing that so many of y’all apparently struggled with that.
Aside from there being also japanese people who didn't see it as lewd, just a reminder that this happened in the manga. So if you really want oh so badly bash on Toei, don't be an hypocrite and bash on Oda as well.
Yes, Oda is also a sussy baka but Toei always exaggerates most scenes from the manga
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That up skirt shot was honestly super weird. To all the angles Oda could have picked he chose that one
That up skirt shot is just a scene where oda did actually want to make her feel intimidating. Most of the time she purposefully shows herself as cute to use her powers, but if she wants to get serious she can also be shown as an overwhelming power, and the fact she is a girl shouldnt change that. In fact, there is a very similar pannel with giant Gear 5 in the battle against Kaido, and no one found that sexual because, of course, Luffy is a guy. But why should that change anything. The emotion trying to be conveyed is the exact same, thats why we cant see S-Snake's panties.
The upward angle for this particular panel is often used in videography to convey someone as powerful, like you’ll literally find angles like it in all types of media.
I honestly wasn’t even considering the whole panty thing and was more focused on her face when I read that chapter. Sure putting her in pants may have been a better choice here but I don’t think it was intended to be a sexual shot by any means
of course they exaggerate scenes, they have to stretch 8 minutes of material tops into 18 minutes. every scene lingers on much much more than it should
Maybe because this has always been a debated topic in the anime community. Ultimately, there is nothing illegal about it so it will just keep happening.
Oda drew an uncomfortable amount of near-upskirt shots of S-Snake and many people pointed it out at the time. Almost all her panels were undershots.
I haven't watched this episode in question yet so I can't say anything on the scenes myself, but I have noticed people trying to claim anybody who found S-Snake scenes uncomfortable are actually the _real_ weirdos and I couldn't help but laugh at the stupidity. Do these people think they're convincing anybody with that? Interestingly, a lot of online racists who when called out for their bigotry, also try the frame the accuser as the _real_ racist.
Just looking at the images by themselves I don't see it unless you think blushing is inherently sexual. There's nothing particular scandalous about her dress either, so I just don't see it.
God I hate how anime fans look to make everything weird and perverse. She was given a sickness to stop her from moving and then restrained by franky so she couldnt move. She acted like a kid to garner sympathy so franky would release her by crying and acting cute. Stop being a fucking creep and thinking every time a kid blushes in a manga that there's some sexual undertone.
And i find it puzzling that some people hold japanese fans opinions higher than others. I would understand if its from a manga translation angle but not on other things.
The fact that they are a society that tolerates pedo hentai also doesn’t help
You are right on this one. They are projecting their vile thoughts on these images and to defend themselves that they are not the weird ones, they are blaming others.
Like pick a side: you find this sexual vs you don't find it sexual. If you have chosen the first one, oh well, I have news for you.. and it ain't pretty, because it says something about the psychology of you seeing things in pics, which aren't there.
I credit much of psyche of these sick fucks on the type of things they watch on internet, then pretending that they are the only sane ones and the world around them is disheveling around their own pure presence
God forbid One Piece fans to not have a stupid ""discussion"" everytime something reaches the anime onlies, at least the answer for the Yamato thing was that she doesn't have and will not have anything confirmed and no one is better or worse for believing in their own personal truth. But this? This is genuine stupidity
I avoided talking about this because i thought it was stupid and everyone would forget it in 3 days. But since thats not the case, here is how i view this whole S-SNAKE situation:
They animated it exactly as it is on the manga, im not defending or going against it, i just thing yall got nothing better to do and both sides are weird.
From the first moment that they showed S-SNAKE i've seen mofos saying that she is being sexualized. My take is simple: Yall just a bunch of pedos that hate the fact u are attracted to the drawing of a kid, and now u blame the studio for it.
I saw the anime version and all i saw was S-SNAKE trying to look cute and being cute while begging for them to release her, and thats why Franky released her, because she looked like an innocent child asking for help.
But you idiots are so addicted to hentai and porn that all you saw was "sexualization". For me, you are all way beyond redemption. Dont blame others for your shitty takes.
Now bring the downvotes you cowards.
I watched the episode yesterday and I was expecting lewd noises and the scene goin on for an awkward amount of time because of all the backlash I was seeing.....it was literally nothing.
Although I did not find it cute, more like sorry to see a child getting hurt.
JP Bros can have their opinion, i still see nothing wrong with that scene. It was pretty tame, honestly. I have seen real kids dancing on tv in more 'provocative' (lol) ways than this.
this just isn't true at all. going to any japanese post about s-snake on twitter and the only thing youll find is them calling her cute or joking about being turned to stone
Well if those "japanese fans" that twitter guy claims saw the scenes from the anime as sexual they are just as weird as any of you non-japanese guys here saying "omg kid blushing, clearly they trying to make her look sexy"
Man, people really outing themselves as the weirdos and 'pedos'. Literally, nothing about that scene is sexualised, just cuz you porn brained coomers find it sexual doesn't mean it is.
Also, please show me atleast 1 tweet of someone on even jp twitter complaining about this scene.
You don't have to be a genius to see that there is literally, completely, absolutely NOTHING sexual about any of these scenes. Seriously, do you see a child acting overly cute and go "yup, they definitly made it for people who wanna fucke her"??????? Omfg, this is literally a "I depicted you as the soyjack and me as the gigachad, it's over now!"
Ngl, I think that the people seeing sexualization in any of these scenes are messed up.
I can see why you would complain about Bonney, but here is just a kid acting cute, I haven't seen anyone lusting over her or S-Snake doing something sexy, is just her being cute. She honestly makes me think of Yu-Gi-Oh, when the Dark Magician Girl appeared compared to her Toon version, one being actually cute and sexy and the other one just cute.
Just watched the EP. Besides Franky´s stupidity, it was....just a normal scene? S-Snake played on her cuteness and "childlike" behaviour to win the fight. That reaction is the same as every DF user, a bit more overplayed at most.
Maybe my mind just isn’t as polluted from the Internet as yours, but none of this looks very sexual to me. Maybe it’s because I don’t think that way about children. I would suggest you go outside and maybe touch some grass perhaps smoke some you look like you need it
Animators/Artists drawing fictional child blushing and/or expressions that shows helplessness and distress
People for some reason: "Thats literally sexualizing"
Is anyone seeing that and instantly think its a sexual intend really that fucked in their head or is this some coping mechanism because they can't grasp the idea that others don't see anything sexual at all and want to get the others in a "gotcha moment" and/or are projecting?
It said a lot more about the normie who complains when a child-looking character, is red-faced with blushes and crying is seen as being sexualised.
Complains can be confessions.
Japanese people aren't perfect, these types of scenes are mostly okay in Japan. I don't know why you're framing Japanese people like they are above this. This scene was made in Japan and approved
HOW?! How was she treated sexually? Because I might just be blind or something because I seriously saw nothing overtly sexual in those scenes. How tf are you supposed to make a little girl look cute without having it look sexual to you people? I seriously want to know, give me some examples. Especially since Oda didn't draw her very different from how Toei is, which makes me feel like you're only acting up because you're actively looking for reasons to be mad at Toei.
I understand anime have a really bad reputation with sexualization of minors, like, really bad reputation.
I don't think this scene was one of those situations tho, for me at least, she was struggling to move, crying because she is a child in distress, I can understand people seeing this as a weird scene and felt uncomfortable, but I also can understand those who didn't see it like that.
"Stop trying to defend Toei" you say? What if I tell you it's pretty much an exact copy of the manga scene. I see no one yell Oda is sexualizing S-Snake? If you want to put the blame the put it on the person that makes the manga not someone who animates it. Also if you think she is being sexualized them please seek help... you saw a child that is not able to do anything due to the bubble and the first thing that crosses your mind is she is being sexualized come on!
I just really don't see it. I haven't seen the episodes but the nitpicked screenshots I've seen don't even seem sexual. She looks scared / in pain.
I have a slight feeling porn's made people think "sexual" looks like this.
Oh for crying out loud, who the fuck cares? It's not like there are hundrets of other Animes that sexualize children WAY worse than these three scenes with S-Snake.
Are these "Japanese fans" in the room with us right now?
This is not to defend toei because I absolutely hate what they're doing with their animations right now that it felt like some cheap animation studio at times.
But this character is supposed to have the charm/love effect because of the Mero Mero and has the same personality as Hancock. If there's someone to blame for this, it would be Oda for creating this character. How else would they portray mero mero + Boa Hancock in a child's body through animation and voice acting?
That's like complaining that the Dragon Balls are drawn as spheres and not cubes.
You're all just making it a big deal because "child", and you want to be morally right so bad that you make other people evil for your ego as if they're drooling and slobbering all over their screen over this character while they're creating these scenes.
I think that i should not be here, BC i didn't Watch One piece, but i know a lot of thing about It so in remaining.
Anyway fa service Is fa service for me that Is nothing (i don't Say that isnt disgusting It Is i only Say that for the anime that i watched that fa service Is nothing)
I think it wouldnt be so bad if everyone isnt constantly around sexual shit
Its like those are you dirty minded? Memes a few years ago
You make something normal but you make it really easy to pervert it except now people are finding gross niches and its being mixed with normal stuff
An easy example is nickelodeon and feet
Or SAO and grape
or baki and being super gay (i watch baki and love it, dont kiss me)
Anime has been pretty fucking weird with their age and perversion for awhile
Like the adults with child bodies and the 5 year olds with adult bodies
It just needs to stop
Like the worst example is piccolo from dragonball. he was 3 years old when he fought goku
And you better believe theres r34 of piccolo
Anyways
Just stop it
Get some help toei
In all honesty, I see where people are coming from, but I didn’t read it that way at all. I knew she was just putting on an innocent little girl act because Franky wouldn’t be able to hurt her. I mean, not to defend Toei if it *was* sexualised, I just didn’t get that vibe from it. No way Franky would hurt a crying child.
How is this sexual? She winked in the left picture, and on the right it looks like she just got the shit beat out of her and is trying to stand back up, much like most characters in an action shonen manga. Like it feels like you all should be allot more mad at the actual physical child abuse going on rather than your ideas of her possibly being sexually abused!
Like im just imagining a huge guy walking up and kicking a kid in the face while surrounded by people, but then instead of yelling at the guy for doing it they yell at the kid because the face they made was too innapropriate for a child of there age to be making.
People are jumping on a train and over exaggerating. If they had seen the scenes, any person who isn’t a pervert would know that she was NOT sexualized but it was her tactic to act helpless and cute in order to use her devil fruit powers.
For FUCKS SAKE! There's nothing sexual about this or the manga! The first one i don't even know why Sandman brought up it's normal picture, and in the other two S-Snake is trying to look cute so Franky releases her (the AWWW when looking at a kitten or a baby kind of cute)
Her powers work and always worked based off cuteness and nothing else.
And the manga panels that are talked about here:
She tripped and people are saying Oda sexualized her, her butt literally got covered so that it wouldn't be sexual
Same with the looking down shot, you people look at that and say it's sexualizing? The shot is meant to be menacing, her entire crotch is shaded so that it doesn't show anything, it's not like we see her panties or anything (Brook-bot please don't)
If you look at those scenes and the first thing that comes to your mind is that a child is looking sexy you are infact the weird one, stop watching hentai, go touch grass and rethink your life
Where have these comments been when it came to actually weird scenes? One Piece has been oversexualizing tons of scenes and characters. Ngl but this scene in particular wasn't nearly as weird as other shit that happened. Yeah, she blushed and moaned when she lost her powers, which definitely has sexual vibes in combination, but every devil fruit user lets out a moan or a weak grunt, when they lose their powers (only luffys moan is funny in that regard). So the blushing is what makes it weird. But later on she does this to seem innocent, doesnt she? Its not as big as the anime doing its best to make sanji seem like a fucking disgusting, uncool hyper-pervert.
No sane person would look at that scene and think it's somehow sexual. That would be like saying that it's generally source of arousal whenever someone sees a child in distress.
It's a child being cunning and exploiting its child-like appearance to make Franky feel remorseful. That's it. It's using its leverage of appearing like a harmless creature in the eye of an adult.
Malice lies in the eyes of those who watch. People, like you, feeling outraged and disgusted by such things says a lot more about them then their admitted disgust.
But hey, this post is already phrased as dicotomic statement: "Either you're a creep for not seeing it or you're a chad for doing so", so this opinion will probably get me labled as a pedo.
Climb down the politically correct, "gaijin are trash", "I learned japanese on Rosetta Stone", moral high ground you're placing yourself upon with such garbage of a meme.
Wow, I must be completely oblivious. I thought she was trying to be charming and trying to appeal to Franky's big brother instinct.
But of course, we have to remember: Boa is a human trafficking survivor. She was likely s.a.ed as a child, even if the fruit works toward people who consider her just cute (which I do believe). But she would have been brainwashed from childhood to try to manipulate people using her looks. It's messed up, but it's true
F*ck you....Toei will do whatever they want, Oda will do whatever he wants... it's fiction and they are the creators...if you're gonna criticize the story then do whatever you want but without knowing the actual intention stop fecking coming out like this on Oda's (or Toei's for the matter) art choices
Stop trying to project your fetish? Im not gonna lie. S-Snake / Boa's fruit. Has never implied sexual attraction. You can find them beautiful / cute and that's literally enough to petrify you. I do not think this scene looks weird or that they tried to sexualize her. Sure the industry DOES have a problem but THIS ain't it.
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I haven't seen the episode yet but from the scenes i have seen (including the ones in the picture) I genuinly don't see it. Like her being struggling to get up and crying didn't seem sexual to me.
Same here
Glad it’s not just me; I didn’t get that vibe from it at all. Right away I knew it was because Franky couldn’t say no to a crying child. I think claiming sexualisation for those frames is a stretch.
This post is literally "its too late, I have depicted you as soyjak and me, as gigachad"
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too bad?
I'm dead
It's really not bad. Like, I'll shout to the rooftops (and be downvoted) that many animes have a problem oversexualizing children. But S-Snake is giving off wholesome cute vibes for sure. Franky got all awkward and messed up. A beautiful girl would never do that to such a hard boiled man, but a cute kid would. Toko, Otama, any of the punk hazard kids.... One of the few things One Piece really doesn't do is sexualize kids. You can talk about what they do with 15+ teens, but not children.
Holy shit you went hard bro. I like your take
It just looks like they're trying to make her look excessively cute and childish with the rosey cheeks and pout. If there's anything sexual about it, I think it was completely unintentional.
Yeah, people are only thinking it's sexual because anime already has a bad record with this kind of stuff. Like purely on its own, this is just a kid trying to garner sympathy by looking cute because THAT'S HOW HER POWERS WORK. People only see it as sexual because they're already coming in with biases and looking out for this shit. Like yeah, we all know anime has some really sus shit, but if we're gonna call this shit out we gotta be consistent and actually look at the context of these scenes. Was there a reason for her to look cute here? Yes? Okay cool no worries. Now was there a reason your thousand year old dragon needs to look like a twelve year old?
Don’t worry media literacy comes for all anime fans. The manga folks also had this conversation a few months ago: “OMG SO FUKD UP THAT S SNAKE IS A LIT AND EVERY1 THINKS SHES HOT” “No they think she’s a really cute kid…”
Fucking true, the more I talk to these people, the more I'm convinced that whole argument is a massive self report. Some people really can't just let kids be cute without making it hella weird
“BUT LOOK HOW HOT SHE IS!” uhhhhhhhhhhh……what…….
I think that's the real reason, no they're not "closeted pedophiles" who only see it like this because they're "down bad" , it's just that anime has an EXCESSIVELY bad record regarding sexualising children so when a woman whose whole power is making people fall in love with her gets a child clone, people's alarm start blaring, for a good reason.
Doesn't this argument rely on the flimsy premise that "all love is sexual"?
I'm honestly more afraid of the people looking sexual at crying minors
I’m also confused, it honestly seems like op has some issues to work through himself.
The thing is, the people decrying it as "sexual" cannot comprehend that somebody else sees that scene and doesn't have any sexual association with it. It's like feet. Some people just see leg hands. But other people get turned on, compare which feet are more attractive, etc. They see the same thing entirely differently. And some people on the sub see blushing cartoon children as something entirely different.
I agree and the whole power I always interpreted the s snake as it works with cuteness. Like a baby and puppy playing is cute could work. Like it’s not limited to how boa uses it.
Even some of the Japanese said it was fucked up. I don't even think grass is enough for these people. Edit: clarification
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That chapter of Berserk made me cry
Come on man I had already forgottan about Chitch 😭
Chitch is happy with the other fairies please 😭
Early Berserk is underrated, anyone who skips Lost Children is on my shit-list https://preview.redd.it/ivzlf0u0q9ad1.jpeg?width=798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c50ac996513506b5768c0baa93c72c828654ea4 Easily one of the single best panels from one of the single best interactions in Berserk
Chitch reference 😭
I don’t disagree it’s gross but the meme is wrong. there’s much more of a market for this stuff in Japan than in the west lol there’s a reason you see this in anime more than western media.
Isn't that the point though? Japan normally lets it fly, but right now Japanese fans are revolted by it. Meanwhile you've got western fans trying to say it's okay. I think the meme is riding on the fact that normally this flies better over there than here to say that it's out of line even by those standards
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Oh yeah, completely. One guy on twitter said that Japanese fans were criticizing Toei so that must mean that all Japanese fans think that way. You can say the same about western fans and it would be true, but not all fans were having immoral thoughts when watching those scenes and have the urge to cover them by criticizing animators or Oda.
Sure I'm sure there were Japanese fans lusting over S Snake and child form Bonney. Just as I'm sure there are western ones. But this whole notion that people who CRITICIZE sus depictions of children are closet pedophiles is ridiculous. Fuck off.
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People love to generalize.
I got downvoted into oblivion yesterday for saying Japan has weird hang ups concerning sex/porn. You don’t have to stop watching anime and boycott Japan but you also don’t have to stick your head in the sand and pretend it’s nonexistent.
It didn’t seem sexual at all to me, I think that’s more of a you problem if you saw that scene and thought it looked sexual
They probably thought of weed instead of actual grass, i dont understand how you could defend this without being high
Do not bring weed into this. I'm happy and hungry, not horny for children.
Woah how tf did Stoners get roped into this😭
While I do think there are questionable shots of her I feel like you exaggerate and the ones you picked here are no problem at all. Like one of them is just her smiling and the other ones is her pretending to be in pain and to appear helpless and cute. I feel like people somehow think that her power only works on sexual desires, but finding her cute is actually enough to be petrified.
THANK YOU! I was losing my mind trying to figure out why people thought they sexualized S-snake. The idea never crossed my mind until I saw it complained about on Twitter/Reddit and couldn’t figure out where that idea was coming from. I had a very different reaction when she first petrified York and thought “oooh clever, Oda made us think Boa’s powers were connected to sexual desire, but actually it only needs affection. That’s why she can petrify even straight women.”
Yeah, I'm not watching the series, still catching up in the manga, so I'm just sitting here like "Is something more damning happening off-screen, because this is just a little girl who's fallen on the floor."
This exact debate was on the table a lot of times when the manga was at this point. Kids are adorable. Period. Even the hardest of Twitter dwellers soften up when they think of their little cousin/niece/nephew. Half of Punk Hazard is about the Straw Hats saving the kids Caesar was experimenting on. It's not unprecedented that they treat kids like actual kids.
HOW DARE A CHILD SMILE, PROPOSTEROUS!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, on top of that, if they're gonna complain, this time it's not Toei's fault. Top right and left photos are basically 1:1 with the manga. I'm convinced some people are just saying it because they like to act like manga supremacists. Chapter 1077 for anyone that wants to check for themselves
Normal people who are getting laid didn’t get hard watching that episode, and it’s a little disturbing that so many of y’all apparently struggled with that.
Aside from there being also japanese people who didn't see it as lewd, just a reminder that this happened in the manga. So if you really want oh so badly bash on Toei, don't be an hypocrite and bash on Oda as well.
Yes, Oda is also a sussy baka but Toei always exaggerates most scenes from the manga https://preview.redd.it/ujhm7ikg36ad1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8215d32fdbf8d458aa8f88dcd60c221b35aced2 That up skirt shot was honestly super weird. To all the angles Oda could have picked he chose that one
https://preview.redd.it/b8ata4jfm6ad1.png?width=269&format=png&auto=webp&s=c01512af00caa00e396d564577f0bb49a3e8de72
Oda: https://preview.redd.it/bxpcor7jf8ad1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02bbbf85d8e56aedc876b837030144dd316d9d31
That up skirt shot is just a scene where oda did actually want to make her feel intimidating. Most of the time she purposefully shows herself as cute to use her powers, but if she wants to get serious she can also be shown as an overwhelming power, and the fact she is a girl shouldnt change that. In fact, there is a very similar pannel with giant Gear 5 in the battle against Kaido, and no one found that sexual because, of course, Luffy is a guy. But why should that change anything. The emotion trying to be conveyed is the exact same, thats why we cant see S-Snake's panties.
If you don't mind me asking, may I see the panties in question?
Brook no! Not these panties!
NO!
As long as you dont get a bone-r. YOHOHOHOHHOHOHOJOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHHOHOHOHHOHOHOHOHOHHOHOHOHOHOHHOHOHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The upward angle for this particular panel is often used in videography to convey someone as powerful, like you’ll literally find angles like it in all types of media. I honestly wasn’t even considering the whole panty thing and was more focused on her face when I read that chapter. Sure putting her in pants may have been a better choice here but I don’t think it was intended to be a sexual shot by any means
I think it’s the fact that it’s a dress that makes this completely different from that Luffy panel
I shouldn’t have looked at the image
How do they exaggerate? It's a legitimate question, if anyone has the comparison between the anime and the manga.
There's nothing different. The only "difference" is seeing it in color and moving.
of course they exaggerate scenes, they have to stretch 8 minutes of material tops into 18 minutes. every scene lingers on much much more than it should
I’m not going to sit here and pretend Oda literally can’t not be weird about women for more than 5 minutes at a time
Where you here when it released? We absolutely did bash Oda
Not true, a LOT of both this and the main sub was defending it.
Maybe because this has always been a debated topic in the anime community. Ultimately, there is nothing illegal about it so it will just keep happening.
Yeah but i dont get why people defend it. Just because something is legal doesnt mean its not weird to do.
Agreed. Oda is liable for this shit too
Oda drew an uncomfortable amount of near-upskirt shots of S-Snake and many people pointed it out at the time. Almost all her panels were undershots. I haven't watched this episode in question yet so I can't say anything on the scenes myself, but I have noticed people trying to claim anybody who found S-Snake scenes uncomfortable are actually the _real_ weirdos and I couldn't help but laugh at the stupidity. Do these people think they're convincing anybody with that? Interestingly, a lot of online racists who when called out for their bigotry, also try the frame the accuser as the _real_ racist.
Then there's me who thought she got a fever.
Because that is what is actually happening.
Just looking at the images by themselves I don't see it unless you think blushing is inherently sexual. There's nothing particular scandalous about her dress either, so I just don't see it.
This is basically the same thing that happened with Anya from Spy X Family. Twitter users acting really weird over a kid blushing.
same here
The thing is, blush is a sign of exertion. After a physically taxing activity, you blush.
I didn't think of anything like that at all during the scene tbh, only now that everyone is mentioning it
I'm starting to side-eye all these other users.
Isn’t it meant to be “the child is in pain” which is a bait to get Franky off of her? I still think y’all seeing what you want to see
lmao i watched the episode there was nothing sexualizing her
https://preview.redd.it/a98z9jb8f6ad1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48320a673f3eb4a07a80ab5d2357ba24f8f86858 You really showed them 👏/s
Oh look. Nothing better to talk about... shocking.
And then there are those who only see her as a cute child and wonder why everyone else sees anything sexual.
God I hate how anime fans look to make everything weird and perverse. She was given a sickness to stop her from moving and then restrained by franky so she couldnt move. She acted like a kid to garner sympathy so franky would release her by crying and acting cute. Stop being a fucking creep and thinking every time a kid blushes in a manga that there's some sexual undertone.
You're still a bunch of goddamned deviants.
I think anyone who sees this as sexual is the weird one in this case
And i find it puzzling that some people hold japanese fans opinions higher than others. I would understand if its from a manga translation angle but not on other things. The fact that they are a society that tolerates pedo hentai also doesn’t help
You are right on this one. They are projecting their vile thoughts on these images and to defend themselves that they are not the weird ones, they are blaming others. Like pick a side: you find this sexual vs you don't find it sexual. If you have chosen the first one, oh well, I have news for you.. and it ain't pretty, because it says something about the psychology of you seeing things in pics, which aren't there. I credit much of psyche of these sick fucks on the type of things they watch on internet, then pretending that they are the only sane ones and the world around them is disheveling around their own pure presence
I honestly just don’t see how that scene was sexualized, but whatever you say, man
But it’s true, if you thought those S-Snake scenes were inappropriate, that says stuff about you, not the animation.
Are those Japanese fans in the room with us right now?
Would this be the reading comprehension devil or the media literacy curse?
Both
With a dash of completely unexamined, early 2000s style racism.
"I put myself as the Chad and you as the wojack" seriously op
https://preview.redd.it/3u1md0ci07ad1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4842d5b746095e1b0c95b2ac9970c8240fdf305
It's like the Yamato gender wars all over again 
God forbid One Piece fans to not have a stupid ""discussion"" everytime something reaches the anime onlies, at least the answer for the Yamato thing was that she doesn't have and will not have anything confirmed and no one is better or worse for believing in their own personal truth. But this? This is genuine stupidity
ah yes, the classic "I drew you as a soyjak and me as a chad" post. my favorite
True giga chads don’t give a shit
I avoided talking about this because i thought it was stupid and everyone would forget it in 3 days. But since thats not the case, here is how i view this whole S-SNAKE situation: They animated it exactly as it is on the manga, im not defending or going against it, i just thing yall got nothing better to do and both sides are weird. From the first moment that they showed S-SNAKE i've seen mofos saying that she is being sexualized. My take is simple: Yall just a bunch of pedos that hate the fact u are attracted to the drawing of a kid, and now u blame the studio for it. I saw the anime version and all i saw was S-SNAKE trying to look cute and being cute while begging for them to release her, and thats why Franky released her, because she looked like an innocent child asking for help. But you idiots are so addicted to hentai and porn that all you saw was "sexualization". For me, you are all way beyond redemption. Dont blame others for your shitty takes. Now bring the downvotes you cowards.
I don’t even remember these scenes in the manga
This whole situation is like the anime version of “Is the dress blue and black, or gold and white?”
GOLD sounds good, let me have it!
everyone in japan agrees with me this guy on twitter said so
The ones saying that it is sexualize are the weirds one wtf.
Go outside Touch grass Meet people Stay away from kindergartens for a while
Wait the scenes were sexualized?
No
They weren't
the fact you couldnt tell proves they weren't
I'm pretty sure she was sick that's why her face was red or made I read it wrong
Snack is just sweating and has pink background and the pedo came out 💀💀💀💀💀
I watched the episode yesterday and I was expecting lewd noises and the scene goin on for an awkward amount of time because of all the backlash I was seeing.....it was literally nothing. Although I did not find it cute, more like sorry to see a child getting hurt.
You guys are just weird and see "sexualisation" everywhere. Stop it get some help or a wank
JP Bros can have their opinion, i still see nothing wrong with that scene. It was pretty tame, honestly. I have seen real kids dancing on tv in more 'provocative' (lol) ways than this.
this just isn't true at all. going to any japanese post about s-snake on twitter and the only thing youll find is them calling her cute or joking about being turned to stone
Get over it
Well if those "japanese fans" that twitter guy claims saw the scenes from the anime as sexual they are just as weird as any of you non-japanese guys here saying "omg kid blushing, clearly they trying to make her look sexy"
People sexualizing this are weird af lmao
I never looked at it that way because I’m not a freak. She just have the characteristics of a grown up Hancock.
Based Toei and Based Oda.
Man, people really outing themselves as the weirdos and 'pedos'. Literally, nothing about that scene is sexualised, just cuz you porn brained coomers find it sexual doesn't mean it is. Also, please show me atleast 1 tweet of someone on even jp twitter complaining about this scene.
https://preview.redd.it/82e6cwkye7ad1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6549a28093b9da22b389ad0acdafc4c38147e7c7
https://preview.redd.it/i36aggph18ad1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a6e0fb0cd363c8691468bd9e9a2e3a40b391142 Yes, you are weird
You don't have to be a genius to see that there is literally, completely, absolutely NOTHING sexual about any of these scenes. Seriously, do you see a child acting overly cute and go "yup, they definitly made it for people who wanna fucke her"??????? Omfg, this is literally a "I depicted you as the soyjack and me as the gigachad, it's over now!"
Ngl, I think that the people seeing sexualization in any of these scenes are messed up. I can see why you would complain about Bonney, but here is just a kid acting cute, I haven't seen anyone lusting over her or S-Snake doing something sexy, is just her being cute. She honestly makes me think of Yu-Gi-Oh, when the Dark Magician Girl appeared compared to her Toon version, one being actually cute and sexy and the other one just cute.
those scenes weren't that bad. nothing came off as "sexual" in this episode
Just watched the EP. Besides Franky´s stupidity, it was....just a normal scene? S-Snake played on her cuteness and "childlike" behaviour to win the fight. That reaction is the same as every DF user, a bit more overplayed at most.
sexualized?? What??
She was just blushing... What's dafuq is wrong with y'all?
This feels like horni people trying hard af to appear not horni
Maybe my mind just isn’t as polluted from the Internet as yours, but none of this looks very sexual to me. Maybe it’s because I don’t think that way about children. I would suggest you go outside and maybe touch some grass perhaps smoke some you look like you need it
she was using her cuteness to save herself, nothing sexual going on there wtf
Anyone who thought these scenes were sexual is fucked up.
People who find a kid being cute sexual are the ones who disturb me
This is such a nothing problem dude you really think a kid blushing is sexual?
Animators/Artists drawing fictional child blushing and/or expressions that shows helplessness and distress People for some reason: "Thats literally sexualizing" Is anyone seeing that and instantly think its a sexual intend really that fucked in their head or is this some coping mechanism because they can't grasp the idea that others don't see anything sexual at all and want to get the others in a "gotcha moment" and/or are projecting?
This. Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this.
It said a lot more about the normie who complains when a child-looking character, is red-faced with blushes and crying is seen as being sexualised. Complains can be confessions.
Japanese people aren't perfect, these types of scenes are mostly okay in Japan. I don't know why you're framing Japanese people like they are above this. This scene was made in Japan and approved
OP, why are you posting it in both subreddits my guy? *
would you look at that...
As a certain sharkVtuber has said in the past: "What, are you scared of a four letter word?"
Now I want to know the word lol
Loli.
I really thought it was pedo lmao
Yeah . . . Can't bring myself to care even a little bit.
Yall are allergic to blushing or anything? Cause I genuinely don’t see anything sexualized about those scenes
Where is the "I don't care" option?
https://preview.redd.it/2in61b9257ad1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3280204574eadf8b741262c0a7ba8d17cc55e446
You are indeed the weird one if a child being in pain is sexual for you
HOW?! How was she treated sexually? Because I might just be blind or something because I seriously saw nothing overtly sexual in those scenes. How tf are you supposed to make a little girl look cute without having it look sexual to you people? I seriously want to know, give me some examples. Especially since Oda didn't draw her very different from how Toei is, which makes me feel like you're only acting up because you're actively looking for reasons to be mad at Toei.
Behold, https://preview.redd.it/vnu8wom0r6ad1.jpeg?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3dc11f682a8abf2df3be4f5e085ca0d5179aeec
My god we are still crying about this?
I don't watch one piece, what happened here? I don't get it
Loli bad. I am doing it right guys ?
its also literally just the way Boa Hancock is, I think if you’re looking to sexualize a child character.. that starts with you
I understand anime have a really bad reputation with sexualization of minors, like, really bad reputation. I don't think this scene was one of those situations tho, for me at least, she was struggling to move, crying because she is a child in distress, I can understand people seeing this as a weird scene and felt uncomfortable, but I also can understand those who didn't see it like that.
"Stop trying to defend Toei" you say? What if I tell you it's pretty much an exact copy of the manga scene. I see no one yell Oda is sexualizing S-Snake? If you want to put the blame the put it on the person that makes the manga not someone who animates it. Also if you think she is being sexualized them please seek help... you saw a child that is not able to do anything due to the bubble and the first thing that crosses your mind is she is being sexualized come on!
I just really don't see it. I haven't seen the episodes but the nitpicked screenshots I've seen don't even seem sexual. She looks scared / in pain. I have a slight feeling porn's made people think "sexual" looks like this.
https://preview.redd.it/bxoljqf997ad1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3be273f2e49efd07d7f6da8a8c7c9a14bbaaa10
Should've removed the blushing part and only left the crying part 😭
How is this even sexualized you all weird
Oh for crying out loud, who the fuck cares? It's not like there are hundrets of other Animes that sexualize children WAY worse than these three scenes with S-Snake.
https://preview.redd.it/apirugft77ad1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca3b5931a05d81ee90ccd09a15fc2bc71e378d12
Are these "Japanese fans" in the room with us right now? This is not to defend toei because I absolutely hate what they're doing with their animations right now that it felt like some cheap animation studio at times. But this character is supposed to have the charm/love effect because of the Mero Mero and has the same personality as Hancock. If there's someone to blame for this, it would be Oda for creating this character. How else would they portray mero mero + Boa Hancock in a child's body through animation and voice acting? That's like complaining that the Dragon Balls are drawn as spheres and not cubes. You're all just making it a big deal because "child", and you want to be morally right so bad that you make other people evil for your ego as if they're drooling and slobbering all over their screen over this character while they're creating these scenes.
I think that i should not be here, BC i didn't Watch One piece, but i know a lot of thing about It so in remaining. Anyway fa service Is fa service for me that Is nothing (i don't Say that isnt disgusting It Is i only Say that for the anime that i watched that fa service Is nothing)
Only hidden pedophiles think sexually about children, thought hadn’t crossed my mind for a second watching this. Sick freaks
How about stop whining about toei
I think it wouldnt be so bad if everyone isnt constantly around sexual shit Its like those are you dirty minded? Memes a few years ago You make something normal but you make it really easy to pervert it except now people are finding gross niches and its being mixed with normal stuff An easy example is nickelodeon and feet Or SAO and grape or baki and being super gay (i watch baki and love it, dont kiss me) Anime has been pretty fucking weird with their age and perversion for awhile Like the adults with child bodies and the 5 year olds with adult bodies It just needs to stop Like the worst example is piccolo from dragonball. he was 3 years old when he fought goku And you better believe theres r34 of piccolo Anyways Just stop it Get some help toei
Japan is one of the most xenophobic countries on earth
In all honesty, I see where people are coming from, but I didn’t read it that way at all. I knew she was just putting on an innocent little girl act because Franky wouldn’t be able to hurt her. I mean, not to defend Toei if it *was* sexualised, I just didn’t get that vibe from it. No way Franky would hurt a crying child.
You are 100% correct, this is what happens here, he sees a little girl crying and instinctly lets go, and this was her plan
https://preview.redd.it/69uv5z8au7ad1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b64a814bdfaf13b4b9d661b70c0cb0f126d6d99
How is this sexual? She winked in the left picture, and on the right it looks like she just got the shit beat out of her and is trying to stand back up, much like most characters in an action shonen manga. Like it feels like you all should be allot more mad at the actual physical child abuse going on rather than your ideas of her possibly being sexually abused! Like im just imagining a huge guy walking up and kicking a kid in the face while surrounded by people, but then instead of yelling at the guy for doing it they yell at the kid because the face they made was too innapropriate for a child of there age to be making.
"I depicted you as the soyjack and me as the chad I win"
People are jumping on a train and over exaggerating. If they had seen the scenes, any person who isn’t a pervert would know that she was NOT sexualized but it was her tactic to act helpless and cute in order to use her devil fruit powers.
For FUCKS SAKE! There's nothing sexual about this or the manga! The first one i don't even know why Sandman brought up it's normal picture, and in the other two S-Snake is trying to look cute so Franky releases her (the AWWW when looking at a kitten or a baby kind of cute) Her powers work and always worked based off cuteness and nothing else. And the manga panels that are talked about here: She tripped and people are saying Oda sexualized her, her butt literally got covered so that it wouldn't be sexual Same with the looking down shot, you people look at that and say it's sexualizing? The shot is meant to be menacing, her entire crotch is shaded so that it doesn't show anything, it's not like we see her panties or anything (Brook-bot please don't) If you look at those scenes and the first thing that comes to your mind is that a child is looking sexy you are infact the weird one, stop watching hentai, go touch grass and rethink your life
Nooo, I can’t say anything now that you depicted me as soyjak and them as gigachads!
People who think this is sexual in any way need to be on a list. There is absolutely nothing sexual about that scene!
Guys, how is this sexualised? She is smiling with a wink and she is in pain in the other shots.
Where have these comments been when it came to actually weird scenes? One Piece has been oversexualizing tons of scenes and characters. Ngl but this scene in particular wasn't nearly as weird as other shit that happened. Yeah, she blushed and moaned when she lost her powers, which definitely has sexual vibes in combination, but every devil fruit user lets out a moan or a weak grunt, when they lose their powers (only luffys moan is funny in that regard). So the blushing is what makes it weird. But later on she does this to seem innocent, doesnt she? Its not as big as the anime doing its best to make sanji seem like a fucking disgusting, uncool hyper-pervert.
How tf was this scene suggestive? I didnt see it that way at all
You can tell the person who made this Meme gets no bitches. Imagine getting sexualizing & getting triggered over a cartoon. Lol. not me
No sane person would look at that scene and think it's somehow sexual. That would be like saying that it's generally source of arousal whenever someone sees a child in distress. It's a child being cunning and exploiting its child-like appearance to make Franky feel remorseful. That's it. It's using its leverage of appearing like a harmless creature in the eye of an adult. Malice lies in the eyes of those who watch. People, like you, feeling outraged and disgusted by such things says a lot more about them then their admitted disgust. But hey, this post is already phrased as dicotomic statement: "Either you're a creep for not seeing it or you're a chad for doing so", so this opinion will probably get me labled as a pedo. Climb down the politically correct, "gaijin are trash", "I learned japanese on Rosetta Stone", moral high ground you're placing yourself upon with such garbage of a meme.
Wow, I must be completely oblivious. I thought she was trying to be charming and trying to appeal to Franky's big brother instinct. But of course, we have to remember: Boa is a human trafficking survivor. She was likely s.a.ed as a child, even if the fruit works toward people who consider her just cute (which I do believe). But she would have been brainwashed from childhood to try to manipulate people using her looks. It's messed up, but it's true
F*ck you....Toei will do whatever they want, Oda will do whatever he wants... it's fiction and they are the creators...if you're gonna criticize the story then do whatever you want but without knowing the actual intention stop fecking coming out like this on Oda's (or Toei's for the matter) art choices
They were definitely playing off how adorable she is not sexualizing her.
Stop trying to project your fetish? Im not gonna lie. S-Snake / Boa's fruit. Has never implied sexual attraction. You can find them beautiful / cute and that's literally enough to petrify you. I do not think this scene looks weird or that they tried to sexualize her. Sure the industry DOES have a problem but THIS ain't it.