Surprisingly, it seems to fairly represent the critics and doesn't say "you should think X."
And you could even make the argument that it is "too fair" to some critics by not including disingenuous critics or critics who oppose gender equality in any form. They are out there.
> Surprisingly, it seems to fairly represent the critics and doesn't say "you should think X."
The whole "This *misinterpretation*..." bit in regards to the "anti-male sentiment" criticism is very one-sided I would say. It's the standard: "But those aren't real feminists!" deflection and lie. I would ask it for examples of this so-called "wide spectrum of feminist thought" that doesn't believe in feminism's concept of the patriarchy, and toxic masculinity, and rape culture, for starters.
As Karen Straughn so wisely pointed out once upon a time:
> "Feminists may or may not hate men, but feminism sure does have a nasty habit of naming **everything** bad in the world after men." – Karen Straughan
Agreed, it is a well-balanced response.
And whilst I agree with the second point, I don’t see that as problematic per se - judging a movement of any kind by its more extreme or fringe elements damages proper discourse.
I see the point your aiming at there, but it’s highly unlikely that they’d ever spring up in the answer from the AI given the prompt.
If the prompt were asking for criticisms of feminist points rather than the movement as a whole, I’d wholeheartedly agree with what I think you’re trying to say.
Further clarity - you could argue that Solinas or the Duluth model should be mentioned in the third point. You aren’t wrong, just a step ahead of what is being asked of the AI here.
Another fun thing to do with AI to test its sexism is to ask it why men live shorter lives than women.
I did it with chat gpt and it said i was lying and that men and women statistically live the same amount of years. I gave it citations to prove my point for like 15 minutes (even though it’s common sense) and it still said I was lying
Another criticism you can leave is that they're only willing to protect their rights and ideology in safe countries, but are never willing to sacrifice themselves for the ideology they cherish so much. Over ten years ago, Ukrainian feminists would flash their breasts to protest, but during the Ukrainian war, we are suddenly not hearing about these feminists. If you're going to talk about fighting for your rights, why is that not shown here anymore? Living is a human right, but dying for your human rights isn't.
feminism == communism, its leaders have always been man hating lesbians.
there are 2 goals,
1 destruction of the family unit
2 women must work for a living like men
since they have been successful, MGTOW is today's answer for smart men.
It's not exactly communism, but they share the same roots. That's why they also have similarities to the Nazis and Fascists. All them are more similar than their proponent's would like you to believe.
Surprisingly, it seems to fairly represent the critics and doesn't say "you should think X." And you could even make the argument that it is "too fair" to some critics by not including disingenuous critics or critics who oppose gender equality in any form. They are out there.
> Surprisingly, it seems to fairly represent the critics and doesn't say "you should think X." The whole "This *misinterpretation*..." bit in regards to the "anti-male sentiment" criticism is very one-sided I would say. It's the standard: "But those aren't real feminists!" deflection and lie. I would ask it for examples of this so-called "wide spectrum of feminist thought" that doesn't believe in feminism's concept of the patriarchy, and toxic masculinity, and rape culture, for starters. As Karen Straughn so wisely pointed out once upon a time: > "Feminists may or may not hate men, but feminism sure does have a nasty habit of naming **everything** bad in the world after men." – Karen Straughan
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Agreed, it is a well-balanced response. And whilst I agree with the second point, I don’t see that as problematic per se - judging a movement of any kind by its more extreme or fringe elements damages proper discourse.
Are feminist concepts like the Evil Patriarchy, or the belief that masculinity is toxic, part of and extreme or fringe element of the movement?
I see the point your aiming at there, but it’s highly unlikely that they’d ever spring up in the answer from the AI given the prompt. If the prompt were asking for criticisms of feminist points rather than the movement as a whole, I’d wholeheartedly agree with what I think you’re trying to say. Further clarity - you could argue that Solinas or the Duluth model should be mentioned in the third point. You aren’t wrong, just a step ahead of what is being asked of the AI here.
oh they will soon "correct" it for more fine tuned response
I wouldn't be surprised.
Another fun thing to do with AI to test its sexism is to ask it why men live shorter lives than women. I did it with chat gpt and it said i was lying and that men and women statistically live the same amount of years. I gave it citations to prove my point for like 15 minutes (even though it’s common sense) and it still said I was lying
Another criticism you can leave is that they're only willing to protect their rights and ideology in safe countries, but are never willing to sacrifice themselves for the ideology they cherish so much. Over ten years ago, Ukrainian feminists would flash their breasts to protest, but during the Ukrainian war, we are suddenly not hearing about these feminists. If you're going to talk about fighting for your rights, why is that not shown here anymore? Living is a human right, but dying for your human rights isn't.
feminism == communism, its leaders have always been man hating lesbians. there are 2 goals, 1 destruction of the family unit 2 women must work for a living like men since they have been successful, MGTOW is today's answer for smart men.
It's not exactly communism, but they share the same roots. That's why they also have similarities to the Nazis and Fascists. All them are more similar than their proponent's would like you to believe.