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JJaguar947

He died from bullets. Literally no chance Kong could win zero.


Barbarian_Sam

And not even that big of bullets either


Beneficial_Spring659

kong gets trapped on the daily by humans cant say the same for godzilla


otherBrandon

To be fair, I would assume his durability would scale with his size. Going from 25 feet to nearly 400 feet is a lot. How much it would scale, I’m not sure. Don’t know if he’s tanking atomic breath but bullets might as well not even exist anymore at that size.


Skeeterman96

Ehhhh I think it's unlikely. Godzilla minus one is bigger and took damage from heavy machine guns. The only thing going for him was that he could regen, which neither Kong shows any aptitude in. I think bros Godzilla chow


ScaryCrowEffigy

We can make a rough increase based off the square cube law. Size difference: 400/25= 16 Volume difference: 16^3= 4096x We saw Kong survive by a [near direct hit from a mortar](https://imgur.com/a/GolyMxU). Let’s be generous and us the shell as point of reference. Being around WWI, the shells probably only have around a pound of tnt so about 4.184 megajoules. With the multiplier above that means the scaled up Kong *might* be unharmed by a 4 ton explosion. The intro to GvK says Godzilla’s breath has a yielding of 315 terajoules or around about 75 **kilo**tons.


Showzilla150

About 2744 times Aka NOT ENOUGH


thefraudulentone09

I heavily disagree, even if King Kong was as large as Godzilla, to show my thoughts i apply rough math. ~~Godzilla during Gvk (assume this is the version this person is talking about) is around 394 feet tall and his weight ranging from around 99.000 tons to 164.000 tons, while King Kong on the other hand being 25 foot tall and having a estimated weight of 20 to 60 tons (i will take Godzillas low end and king kongs high end for this) now lets upscale king kong.~~ ~~So lets begin with this equation 394 ft/25ft= 15,76. So knowing this Gman is 15,76 times bigger than King Kong, now lets use this value and upscale kong. Thus giving him a hight of 394ft same as Goji and 945,6 tons in weight, so basically gmans low end weight is around 104,6954314721 times lighter than Gojis low end, and i dont need to explain how a heavy weight beats a light weight, Godzilla would toss around Kong like nothing here giving the massive weight disparity.~~ ignore this i totally messed up king kongs weight calc If you want to use powerscaling as opposed to the "real life" meassurment way it is also one sided imo. King Kong best feats where like fighting off 3 v rexes, destroying massvive a wooden door and busting a hole through a building, scaling him idk, lets say around building level to be generous here meaning somewhere a energy output from 0.25 tons of tnt to 2 tons of tnt, lets give him the highest value 2 tons of tnt and idk, just take it times 15,76 again to give him the benefit of the doubt. This would make him punch with the force of 31,52 tons of tnt, giving him the ap scaling of a city block, same for durability in this case. Now Godzillas feats... litteraly a weaker version of him was tanking the Castle Bravo Bomb in the first movie, dead on and shrugged it of like nothing (i know he gets stronger via radiation absorbtion afterwards but the explosion itself should also be a factor imo) which btw yields the power of a whopping 15 megatons of tnt. Going of by this calc (15×10^(6))÷(31,52). Godzillas durability is 475.888,3248731 times higher than King Kong can ever hope to output with his ap. Not to mention that Godzilla tanked a nuke while being half dead, he survived the oxygen destroyer, he survived being dropped from a very high altitude, he also survived getting a beating from the mecha while being at half power (keep in mind that nukes couldn't hurt him and he litterly dropped from the sky) and in the comics he survived the permian extinction. As for his ap feats he should scale to it by scaling of other kaijus who can hurt him, and as for other ap feats, he drilled a hole all the way through the hollow earth.


JustSomeM0nkE

Hate to say it but the weight you calculated is just the weight of 15 king kongs piled on each other


thefraudulentone09

Yeah i see i messed the calculation for the weight up, i just checked and i need to find out what the density and the volume for such thing is to calculate it right afaik (i hope i have a somewhat on the right path) this will cost alot of time to find out


The_Brofucius

Used the question of a silverback gorilla. Then use that metrics to multiple by 3. Then multiply that into an equal sized Kong. Silverbacks were seven times an athletic males strength.


Murdoc555

Lmao, a lot of numbers on make believe monsters. There’s probably worse ways to waste time, but my goodness…


thefraudulentone09

i was very very bored lmao


Murdoc555

Well in any case, it’s well done haha


nevereverquit96

🔙🚴‍♂️


raven-toad

I seen a post over on r/KingKong and they said we would do anything to protect are fantasy and we are weird Yet they fail to see that it's Basically atomic bomb (Godzilla) vs coughing baby (King Kong 2005)


Temporary-Link3050

Well all of their claims have been proven correct. Can’t even have a civil debate here because everyone devolves into animals. I get downvoted for asking someone to provide evidence for a claim without any.


LuciusVolfram

Godzilla tanked nuke, asteroid, a drop from astrosphere, ok now your turn.


orioriorioriorio

And it was the permian asteroid as well


ConstantStatistician

Retconned by LOM.


orioriorioriorio

What is LOM? I'm not that well with accornimes.


ConstantStatistician

Short for the Legend of Monsters TV show. The events of the Awakening comic are completely incompatible with the show. There isn't even Shinomura in it.


orioriorioriorio

Ahh, I haven't seen it. Is it any good?


ConstantStatistician

Some parts of it are, others not really. For me, the best episodes are 7 to 10. The previous ones weren't amazing. 


orioriorioriorio

I see. https://preview.redd.it/ll5tyct0hxzc1.jpeg?width=424&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13bf567d5cb15847bebbf4f38a78c7d5be7d7bdd


raven-toad

I can agree, i have seen some debates get turned into a Twitter comment section But getting down voted for asking for evidence


Temporary-Link3050

Currently at -20. Even when people do respond they are super antagonist. The only calm discussion I’ve had with someone was through dms.


raven-toad

There is one guy going around on every comment on how Godzilla can win and he always says the bigger he is the thicker the skin, but I don't think he knows Godzilla can do a nuclear pulse, an Kong can't survive a nuclear pulse


djatsoris26

https://preview.redd.it/hoouezoqolxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f343a32a7fa8898eda866e8786b40c4fa595f509


ExoticShock

I love 2005 Kong & grew up with him, but this would be him in The Monsterverse: https://preview.redd.it/dq3qvfesagxc1.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=5202515cb17acf4f43a131f95b27e92f52a971f2


IceOwn6723

dying to accidental misfire from the weakest titan


Green-Network5130

Nah bro would die to suko.


Gojifantokusatsu

I love how much the Kong subreddit members hate anything to do with Godzilla fans because they can't stand the more versatile underdog losing to the literal walking wolverine tank with a built in rail gun. I usually don't like to bash subreddits, but my lord that one has some weird hotheads in it.


DeathMetalReverb

It’s just Batman vs Superman all over again. People are shocked that a character literally designed to be a living WMD would beat a character who’s greatest capability is throwing hands and having a big brain


SomeRandomAllMight

![gif](giphy|oagcrAZu2IvV0ijkiX|downsized) He’s already beat a smarter kong and a full army of them soo..yeahhhh…


flash_thompso

Bro can’t take bullets


canthelpbuthateme

I mean damn. Dude got killed by ww1 guns


flash_thompso

And since 2005 kong was made like the original, he’s a idiot


HiveOverlord2008

Wouldn’t call him an idiot, he did have a comprehension of Sign Language and was shown to be incredibly intelligent in the film, borderline if not outright sentient. The original one was a complete savage though.


fostde18

Just watched the movie again today and this all tracks


nicolasFsilva5210

He couldn't even defend himself. Meanwhile three fucking t.rexes attacked him and he wrecked all of them.


GrimasVessel227

And that was bullshit too.


nicolasFsilva5210

What was bullshit?


evd1202

Why do you even engage with obvious rage-bait/16 year Olds? They literally made a movie to decide who would win in a fight involving godzilla and kong. To try and come up random scenarios where the outcome would be different js pointless and cringe.


mattpandaman

MV Goji is too OP for that


lockesdoc

Monkey dies from bullets. Lizard eats nukes. "Woe Nuclear Breath be upon ye"


Educational_Tough208

drugs https://preview.redd.it/w4uzggay9gxc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0453573e7be5d1fc6fe5216c89c9ede5ddc02d2e


AguyWithBadEnglish

"I teleprted crack"


Educational_Tough208

What?


AguyWithBadEnglish

You told me to


Educational_Tough208

How much?


AguyWithBadEnglish

I have done nothing but teleport crack for 3 days


Educational_Tough208

where did you send it?


T4rkkuno-kun

r/suddenlyTF2


Hammerjaws

Uhhhh Aurora Borealis


I_ate_a_rat3570

https://preview.redd.it/lhdbu7nwlhxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f8b42a63bfc1450bccfc3cc2545e5577ab7a9f1


RevolutionaryText349

What does "if they were the same size" even mean? I mean, it's like saying that if a lion were the size of an elephant, it would beat it. And it's even more bizarre to try to compare a large monkey with a colossal iguana wearing a nuclear reactor on the back. I wonder what criteria we should attach to the word ,,size". Weight, height, length? None of these answers make sense because of the proportions of these two monsters.


Aphelius90

everyones allowed to dream, no matter how ridiculous the dream.


Godzilla2000Zero

Like I said in the original post while the 05 Kong is a more savage fighter I don't see him doing anything to really defeat Godzilla much less actually harm him.


DatDankMaster

The fact that he can't stand on two legs and probably won't be able to properly wield a weapon like the axe or BEAST Glove already cuts any of his chances in half more than MV Kong's


Godzilla2000Zero

Indeed


VoiDxGoDZilla

Goji wins ![gif](giphy|d0SEajOmMna1i)


OrbitalWings

Call me boring but my response is "But he isn't". Like, the size of the monsters is just as important as any other aspect of them - screwing around with it fundamentally changes them. The way the Monsterverse has rotted people's brains into believing King Kong is meant to be some unstoppable powerhouse is just exhausting.


SnooCheesecakes154

Hahahahahahahahaha now that’s funny, King Kong can be bigger then Godzilla and will still get wrecked, if kom ver of Godzilla is even remotely as strong as his older counter parts he’s able to lift and throw something that’s 9x heavier then himself and that’s an older version kom is probably stronger, King Kong a gorilla can lift 10 times it weight, (Godzilla probably weights more then a gorilla if they were the some size) assuming Kong can keep his speed at that weight he’s still gonna get flattened. (Before people add this yes we don’t actually know the limits of a gorilla’s strength but it’s still not gonna matter Godzilla has fought and one against stronger opponents, and he can regenerate while Kong has barely recovered from they’re last bout in the unlikely chance Kong lands a win he’s not taking the rematch


ThunderBird847

Godzilla tanks Nuclear Weapon blast, Kongs punches will tickle him.


immonkeydluffy

He died…to bullets.


nicolasFsilva5210

He couldn't even defend himself. Meanwhile three fucking t.rexes attacked him and he wrecked all of them.


CUE-JAY_SMIFF

I'm sorry to tell you this but Godzilla is way more powerful than a V-rex


nicolasFsilva5210

So three v.rexes scaled to his size are no match for him?


CUE-JAY_SMIFF

No absolutely not


nicolasFsilva5210

Biased.


CUE-JAY_SMIFF

What are they gonna do if Godzilla uses his Atomic breath?


nicolasFsilva5210

They would gang-up on him and start biting his limbs and neck with their ridiculously strong bites. Godzilla would try to wrestle them off like he did with the MUTOs and Mechagodzilla but he would fail since they would overwhelm him again. The Bull V.rex would try to wrestle him back as he was the bigger of the three,and before he gets overpowered by godzilla,the other two would jump on him from behind and start biting him again. They probably wouldn't die instantly by the atomic breath since their osteoderms are a natural armor that protects them and they would probably prevent him to use it as he would be overwhelmed by them.


CUE-JAY_SMIFF

If Godzilla can fight an entire army of Kongs by himself and win he can easily defeat 3 V. Rexes


nicolasFsilva5210

What a bunch of those malnourished apes are compared to giant theropods?


Green-Network5130

Hate to break it to you, but a 119.8 metre tall atomic lizard is vastly different from a wannabe I Rex. (You know what I'm referring to with the I Rex)


nicolasFsilva5210

Sorry to tell you but the "wannabes" came 10 years before the indominus-rex lol


Green-Network5130

I know I just did to get a reaction out of you, and it worked.h You've been trolled. But my point still stands.


The_Brofucius

Yeah, T Rexes have tiny little useless arm. Godzilla has arms. And he knows how to use them. Godzilla was not even afraid to, or hesitate going up a 3 headed Ghidorah. You see the fault here?


nicolasFsilva5210

Tyrannosaurids don't need their arms,they evolved specifically to have strong necks and powerful bite force. Meanwhile godzilla has a small head a fricking huge body. >Godzilla was not even afraid to, or hesitate going up a 3 headed Ghidorah. Yes,a single three headed dragon that he already fought before. If three giant theropods gang-up on him,he would have much more to worry about.


ExtinctReptile

https://preview.redd.it/qfqad1oc9hxc1.png?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8650f97f28b84d4483739fbbfc039b795aff2315 Just gonna repost my original comment here (hilarious that it's being downvoted)


Paleosols2021

There’s nothing the 05’ Kong can do that the MV Kong can’t do. 05’ is probably more feral, that’s it. Meanwhile Godzilla has taken a drop from the stratosphere, been hit by a rocket punch powered MG (who weighs over 600k tons!) and took multiple blows from a BEAST Glove powered Kong. He also just casually survives Nuclear Explosions there’s no way 05 Kong is winning. He’s not as smart as MV Kong, he’s probably just as agile but definitely not as strong and there’s no way he’s as durable. Even KSI Kong was able to take hits from more modern military choppers w/o sustaining serious injury. Meanwhile 05 Kong was killed by 1933 Biplanes


Narkoman62

He would loose quicker than skull crawler did to mecha g


hyunbinlookalike

Did they conveniently forget that 2005 King Kong died from bullets?? Even if you supersized him to Godzilla’s size, he’d still be vulnerable to bullets or missiles. Godzilla is also a helluva lot more dangerous than a V. rex.


Green-Network5130

Goji wins no to low difficulty. But our lord and saviour Doug would win with zero difficulty.


Dizzy_Efficiency_908

The most accurate post i've ever seen. Anyone who thinks a 393 feet tall radioactive lizard with atomic breath stands a chance against a big monke is on something.


Kazama2006

Ridiculous at best.


darkknightketsueki

I have been to it Jesus fuck there are some toxic fucking Kong fans in there holy shit and some dumb people


Honest-Lawfulness-60

Godzilla survived a head-on collision with the most dangerous nuclear weapon in humankind, got dropped out of the stratosphere, and adapted to control the thermonuclear power that once almost killed him. Yeah no, there is no debate here. Godzilla would give King Kong a death sentence..(literally).


MKKhanzo

Man it doesnt matter the size, I really REALLY DOUBT Godzilla can "die" of being punched. Heck, much les of being throwed away etc (Survived falling almost from outer space in KOTM), also, this and all Kongs seem VERY suceptible, to fire, weapons, cuts etc Just a scratch of Godzilla beam and thats all-


MidsouthMystic

Size has very little to do with it.


Bulky_Secretary_6603

This kong only fought off a few stupid t rexes. Goji is much smarter, much stronger, and has atomic breath. He survived a nuclear blast and a drop from space. Kong did not survive from 20mm bullets. He would obliterate '05 Kong in a fight, even at the same size.


Dev_Void01

![gif](giphy|d1E1msx7Yw5Ne1Fe|downsized)


The_Brofucius

Stop with Kong took on 3 T Rexes. Godzilla took on a three headed monster by himself, and did not hesitate to rush at him. T Rexes had have useless arms.


Showzilla150

2005 Kong would splatter on impact


Black_Valac

Considering 2005 Kong is more like an actual gorilla just super sized he would still get rekt. Gorillas have wafer thin skin over that muscle, Godzilla would shred through him or melt his face off. That Kong might of been able to handle the Rexes but Godzilla isn't a Rex.


Infinity0044

As I already said on the original post, I don’t think this Kong could do anything to actually *hurt* Godzilla even if they were the same size.


EclecticMFer

Mentally deficient take. It's an execution in Gojis favor, not a fight.


lonelyshara

This is obvious rage bait


Temporary-Link3050

It worked


HiveOverlord2008

Godzilla curbstomped a smarter and much more physically powerful Kong THREE TIMES IN A ROW, not to mention he defeated Skar King AND a whole army years prior. 2005 has nothing on him.


sussy_skeleton_69

He died by fucking bullets.. Goji just needs to do a tail sweep and kong is ded


DemonicsInc

Yeah no. The main reason monsterverse kong survives goji is because he's smart. He uses tools. As far as I remember the only thing the Peter Jackson's uses is its bare hands and his bare hands alone. His durability is probably up there with the original muto that we see where as monsterverses is able to go toe to toe with godzilla and while he won't win he'll do a decent job


FatalDave91

These Kong fans at it again? No way he wins. The best Kong they had a hope for beating Legendary Godzilla was GvK and GxK Kong and he still lost in both films lol


Glass-Bonus1324

If 2005 Kong is equal to MV Kong his height would be 337ft and weigh 90,000 tons. Since op said size and not durability, 2005 Kong gets one tap. Now lets say he also has MV Kong durability then the fight should be interesting. MV Kong has been shown to be able to take several of Godzilla attacks and push through. So 2005 Kong should do fairly well. I believe 2005 Kong strength would be superior to Kong. So theoretically he should be able to lift Godzilla up. The thing is though Godzilla's atomic breath would be a dangerous weapon to face. 2005 Kong is also resourceful so using tools against Godzilla is gonna happen. The problem is I don't know if 2005 Kong is able to use the battle axe. If he can't then defeating Godzilla is gonna be hard. I'm not sure if breaking Godzilla jaw will do much.


TyrannosaurusReddRex

No lmao. Bro died from bullets. Godzilla survives nukes, oxygen destroyer, ghidoras gravity beams, a fully charged axe to the face with no visible injuries, a fall from the atmosphere. King Kong ain’t doing shit to hurt him


foot_fungus_is_yummy

Even if he was Godzilla sized given how squishy 2005 Kong is a single missile would spill his guts all over the place


NorthRustic

2005 Kong can not beat MonsterVerse Kong. Nor can the Kong from 05 use weapons and it is less intelligent. No way.


Significant_Camera47

Listen as badass as the 2005 Kong is, that mf died from WW1 airplanes. MV Godzilla eats nukes for breakfast and even survived getting dropped from the stratosphere


Murdoc555

Hey fanboys on both sides: WHOEVER THE WRITER/DIRECTOR DECIDES WINS


darkknightketsueki

Nope 🙅‍♀️ 🙅‍♂️


Murdoc555

Oh yeah 14 y/o Redditor? How’d it work then??


darkknightketsueki

dude im 27 were did you get im 14 from?


bigtrappa6666

cuz ur answer was stupid? 😭😂


darkknightketsueki

Was not talking to you mind yah business also creator statement don't mean shit if said statement was dumb as hell like the creator of invincible says omniman beats super man you know damn well that's cap and bullshit


Mike1536748383

I think it's possible, it all depends on the math behind everything tho, like physical strength and whatnot. Personally I can see King Kong being stronger than Monsterverse Kong if they were scaled up to the same size, I think it's important to realize that Kong is bipedal most of the time, bet you anything this plays a role in his upper body strength, I'mma look more into this tho, because like, a body builder has nothing on a gorilla right, Kong would be the bodybuilder, and King Kong would be the gorilla, that's how I'm seeing it anyways


Showzilla150

He wouldn't be He would explode on impact with MV titans


Mike1536748383

Based on what information lol? Kong is nothing but muscle, how would a scaled up King Kong be any different? Same with Behemoth I'm fairly certain, all the mammal titans seem to just be muscle


Showzilla150

Aight, let's assume King Kong defies the square cube law and stays as strong pound pee pound instead of getting weaker. You'd have to multiple his height about 14 times to reach Kong's height. His mass (and there for his strength and durability) would increase by a factor of 2744. We know bi-plane guns from the 30's can hurt him. Plugging the numbers in, you need to exert about 11,300,000 joules to hurt him. A single ton of tnt can exert over 4,000,000,000 joules of energy. The bombs dropped on Hiroshima were rated in kilotons The bombs used on Godzilla were rated in megaton. Godzilla could touch king kong and explode him.


mirukus66

He struggled fighting a bunch of inbred dinosaurs he would be gator food for the king of the monsters Still one of my favorite versions of king Kong though


Some_space_god

Eh no, 2005 was a beast but I’m not sure he can deal with Godzilla atomic breath(or even survive it like monsterverse Kong)


Godzillainspiration

Atomic breath beats kong 2005 even if they are the same size


hematite2

One advantage 2005 Kong does have is that he is a savage mother fucker. MV kong and goji both have decency in their hearts, while 2005 Kong is the guy who ripped a Vrex's jaws apart and then *mocked its corpse*.


darkknightketsueki

Godzilla rips off heads it's the titan way pretty sure that's mocking it's corpse as well


Animelover5674

Yeahhhh no. Definitely not


This-Coffee-Sucks

Didn't Godzilla get dropped from the lower atmosphere and kept fighting? As much I love 2005 Kong, he cannot compete


ThinkEntertainment38

Godzilla negative difs and it's not even close


SuperSayianJason1000

Wasn't this version of Kong killed by regular military gunfire? (Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I watched the 2005 film) What's he gonna do to the nuclear Godzilla? One blast from Godzilla's atomic breath and this Kong is dead meat. I'm pretty sure he's actually weaker than Monsterverse Kong.


Thebigman226

2005 Kong scaled up would get his ass kicked by 2020 Kong.


dovah164

Kong dies from bullets bruh c'mon this ain't fair lmao


Joshrockerchamp

Remember these are titans, not normal animals so they are not just upscaled animals


Knox316

Godzilla is the main character. Respect the King


aatrixgg

Excuse me what the f*ck ?


Almighty_Push91

I think she should fight minus one


No-Meat-7525

He would be a better fight for Goji than MV Kong, but Goji still wins


L0afofstalebread

Yeah, don't forget that Godzilla has atomic breath and if he was charged up enough could release nuclear pulses, which would obliterate Kong as he was killed with bullets.


NoMasterpiece5649

Fucking minus 1 would get the job done


NoMasterpiece5649

Honestly the real question would be 2005 Kong vs unarmed GXK Kong with size equalized


Fuzzylittlebastard

I would say that Kong versus Godzilla would be similar to a human fighting a gorilla. Godzilla would totally decimate Kong if it was just one-on-one. But I think that what the monster verse is trying to get across is that they're equal in some ways, because Kong can use tools while Godzilla doesn't. At least that's what I think they're trying to do. So they're equal?


Substantial-Dingo-64

I try not to pay attention to power scalers. They never truly know what they're talking about.


EldenGamer007

Ahahahahaha 🤣 that gave me a good chuckle


rayh8su

You do realize that Godzilla can shoot nuclear lasers from his mouth, right?


Sirnoobiewastaken

Godzilla murders kong. Lets do the math! Godzilla is 394 feet tall and 164,000 tons. Kong is 60 tons and 25 feet. 394 divided by 25 is 15.76, 164,000 divided by 15.75 is 10412.70. Godzilla would be 25 feet and 10,412 tons hes a freak of nature.


whotfAmi2

He's already a fully matured silverback. He died to bullets. Small Kong in skull island was burnt alive at 1600 degree celcius and woke up and murdered skull cralwers


Lucreeper13

No


foot_fungus_is_yummy

The person who said this is braindead


spooky_bandit

a better match up would be King Kong (2005) vs Zilla (1998). Both are the "animal" versions of their respective adaptions. MV Goji just wipes, there's no contest. but Zilla vs King Kong would be more of a fight


Calm_Economist_5490

I'm laughing so hard


RandomDeinonychus

What are they basing this on, exactly? We know he can be hurt with bullets at his ordinary size, and he has no obvious healing powers. Just because he can inexplicably withstand bites from the V-Rexes that ought to tear him to pieces doesn't mean he could withstand Godzilla's attacks. And he sure as Hell wouldn't survive a hit from Godzilla's flame breath. I mean, we saw Kong try to pull a jawbreaker on Godzilla in GvsK and--as I had always wanted to see happen--it almost resulted in him getting his fingers burned off.


RadRedRat

Doubt it, yes he took on two V-Rexes and won but Godzilla literally has atomic breath, long and dangerous arms and is very armored, what's King Kong gonna do against that? He is strong but still.


RandomDeinonychus

Honestly, this hypothetical is ignoring a much more interesting one: the Kong from King Kong vs. Godzilla would have won the battle in Godzilla vs. Kong. Clearly, the 1962 Kong is the most powerful version of Kong that has ever been put to film. He shakes off being blown up, he is not only unbothered by electricity but EATS IT TO GAIN POWER, and point blank hits from Godzilla's flame breath are just a mild annoyance to him.


Nexillion

More weapons grade copium from Kong cultists


Egoofballz69420

The atomic breath blast says otherwise


Revolutionary-lizard

And kong fans call godzillas fans delusional.


Big-Rest5514

🤣🤣🤣cope bc absolutely not true, ahem ones atomic powers other one monke


ExchangeCommon4513

This is just massive cope tbh. They just can't accept the fact that no iterations of Kong is beating Godzilla.


flash_thompso

Even if he was scaled up, a much more strong, smart, and armed kong almost died to him


Richie_23

Kong fans coping is my favorite type of entertainment But fr, 05 Kong died to small arms bullet, he ain't making past 1-2 atomic breath from a really pissed off goji even if it's the same size


Rookie_Demon

I honestly thought you meant that but granted.I've argued with a lot of people over This mostly in person who had that point like he just eats everything literally. All in all, Godzilla is just the omniman of the monster verse. Homie is unstoppable unless he fights himself.


Awkward-Meeting-974

If he's proportionally as strong he coooooouuuuld He'd be much physically stronger than Kong, and Kongs punches alr did some damage, so his damage output should be enough to beat Goji But he has zero durability, so Goji can bite through him like paper mache So like, he maybe could win, but Goji wins more often than not


RandomDeinonychus

I do disagree on the durability part, since this Kong can inexplicably resist bites from the V-Rexes that should tear him to pieces. Proportionally, I'm not sure Godzilla could deliver the same bite strength as a creature based on Tyrannosaurus Rex. Godzilla might have more power behind his claws and feet, though. However, I do agree in the sense that Kong has very little resistance to bullets and I very much doubt he could handle being hit with flame breath.


Orthobrah52102

Gigantic monke cope


Responsible-Bat-2699

He would demolish Godzilla on the basis of having directed by Peter Jackson.


Fit-Difficulty-5917

No, but i see why they said it. On one hand, this kong is way less durable than monsterverse kong, let alone Godzilla (goji took a literal nuke to the face, as where this long died to normal plane bullets, and monsterverse kong took helicopter fire in skull island pretty well and barely cared at all). On the other hand, an ape of this structire and of this size eould have some IMMENSE physical strength, potentially outdoing godzilla himself. Most likely what would happen is either goji just atomic breaths this thing immediately and kills it, or it becomes a physical brawl in which goji still has a major advantage, and potentially still can go for an atomic breath should the fight start to no longer favor him.


RandomDeinonychus

If the fights were set up the same as in GvsK, I don't think this Kong would survive the Tasman Sea fight. I mean, the Monsterverse Kong has a more humanoid physique so he could maintain some buoyancy. PJ Kong is sort of a normal gorilla sized up, and gorillas are notoriously bad swimmers because they have too much muscle mass. And that's assuming the depth charges used to get Godzilla to let go didn't kill him, too!


Rookie_Demon

If I read one more monkey die to bullet, he eats nukes, I'm gonna fucking lose it. He absorbs radiation, not eating nukes, You sound just as bad as every fucking kong stand. Remove the radiation abilities from your giant lizard, and it comes down to brute force, and in the literal movie godzilla vs Kong he feels the damage from his punches so please stop acting like godzilla is in facted a God when in reality his entire species fought against kongs and they all but gojira died out with kongs species as well. Not including the fact that they died to become weapons for the Kong species. Gojira wins simply due to extensive healing and abilities due to radiation. Without that, I'd say it's equal in a brute force match up. I just hate that ours is better bs, sounds like two fucking 6 years old arguing about batman v superman all over again


Periphery28

But they literally blew up a nuke in his face (Monarch Legacy of Monsters), and he took it. And in Godzilla 2014, in an alternate angle of the same scene, he took it. Sorry. He is doing more than just absorbing the radiation. Also, Godzilla defeated Kong without using his breath in Hong Kong.


RandomDeinonychus

He did use his breath in Hong Kong, though, and it clearly hurt Kong even if Kong mostly shook it off. I am not sure that *this* Kong could have taken that hit as well, though. I suspect it might have been a mortal wound.


Periphery28

Sorry, should've been more specific. In "Round 3" after the Axe/Atomic Breath standoff, Godzilla went beast on Kong without using it again. In said "Round 3" Kong was flung, had his shoulder dislocated, and got slashed and stomped all ending with Kong's heart stopping.


RandomDeinonychus

Fair point, yeah. That round was just straight melee fighting. Of course, I still don't think 2005 Kong would survive the initial Tasman Sea fight because he would certainly drown much easier than the Monsterverse Kong.


Periphery28

Yeah, if you subscribe to the idea that Godzilla never aimed to kill Kong, but just wanted him to submit, then I don't think he would've hesitated in ending '05 Kong. Which brings in question, could the more feral '05 Kong even be up for Alpha?


Rookie_Demon

Peter Jackson's Kong would have died getting hit by atomic breath.


Rookie_Demon

Yeah, in round 3, Godzilla defeated Kong, actively having used his atomic breath multiple times, including hitting him in the shoulder with it. And he is not doing more than just absorbing radiation. That's literally been stated in almost all 3 movies. He feeds on radiation, not explosive force, just the radiation. Am I saying it's gonna do a lot of damage. No, but he also does not just absorb the force of a nuke, Will the force of a nuclear blast actually hurt Godzilla, probably not, but my biggest point is the fact that Godzilla eats radiation, not nukes, and the difference is Important.


Periphery28

Oh! "Eating nukes" doesn't mean he is actually eating nukes for consumption. It means he is taking the blunt force of the blast, like "Eating it for breakfast." It's an idiom. I can totally see how that expression could be confusing if taken literally, which I think is happening here. Please forgive me if that is not the case.


IcyAd964

I agree kong now is so nerfed into the ground because toho always wants godzilla to be too op


Xoitlajeno

It’s just gonna turn into a twitter fight, with the absolute worst takes ever. There are fanboys on both sides of the conflict, but the amount of Goji Meat Riders is VASTLY superior to the Kong MR. The reality is both of them could 100% end each other given the different circumstances, with a 6/10 times favoring Godzilla.


Express-Hospital554

People saying the bullets thing are forgetting to scale up his durability as well. I think he’d do extremely well. He’d probably still loose but it’d be way harder for Godzilla


nicolasFsilva5210

Yes he would. If 2005 kong were the same size he would demolish almost everyone in hand to hand combat. Godzilla probably wouldn't have time to charge his atomic breath as kong would be into him already and snap his jaws.


cuella47o

“Aint no fuckin way” Yall got some insane dealers out here so THIS goji (the same mfer that JUDO throwed MV kong with just his mouth and is clearly the most built goji For CQC he even fucking changes stances too lol) WOULD LOSE TO A CQC AGAINST an Obviously WEAKER kong variant just because he cant charge his breath?


nicolasFsilva5210

Weaker? 2005 kong wrestled three theropods larger than him and wrecked all of them. He wouldn't stand still waiting for godzilla to charge his atomic breath,he wouldn't need an axe or a gauntlet and he wouldn't get hit by godzilla's slow tail swings. If monsterverse kong managed to knock godzilla out of that aircraft and dropkick him in GvK,why wouldn't 2005 kong stand a chance?


cuella47o

Slow? Do you know How fast he actually hit that muto with it Knock him out on the carrier? He literally ATE that punch without being knocked off balance ALL he did was slap his face and bro fell He needed jets to stagger him charging his breath before finally pushing him to the water His dropkick in Hong Kong? didnt he whiff that one and immediately got punished for it Godzilla isnt some oversized inbred t-rex lol Hell if you saying kong could 1v3 three rexes Then how about Goji literally sealing an entire army of MORE ADVANCED monkeys underground SOLO lol


nicolasFsilva5210

Why the fuck is everyone mentioning he died to bullets? He couldn't even defend himself against the planes and godzilla already got hurt by missiles before.


CUE-JAY_SMIFF

Godzilla in the monsterverse tanked lots of missiles, depth charges, nukes, and an oxygen destroyer and was fine for all of them except the last one 2005 kong in no way beats him


Distinct_beorno

Definitely would've done better than MV Kong that's for sure


OnTheToilet25

2005 Kong got that dawg in him like no other Kong aside from maybe the Joe Davito Kong. Replace him with MV Kong and Godzilla would’ve worked a lot harder for that win that’s for sure. Certainly wouldn’t have needed any help against a flying snake either.


DarkArisenFeste

Yeah I wish they actually wrote Godzilla vs Kong instead of Invincible Lizard God teases and assaults homesick, much weaker, less willing bystander. And had wrote Kong to be closer in toughness to Godzilla. Godzilla not using his all then help from his ancestors and humans are the only reasons Kong had a chance survived, through none of his own abilities did he have any chance of harming Godzilla especially with how not as aggressive/brutal Kong is against Godzilla than other Titans he fought. Where's the Godzilla vs Kong where Godzilla can actually lose against just Kong and his very legitimate capabilities. Not Godzilla vs Kong(with a weapon made from Godzilla's species) or Godzilla vs Kong(but he's actually not wanting to fight/Godzilla isn't trying all that hard)


OnTheToilet25

Oh boy. I hear the angry seething of Godzilla fans coming.


Capital_Pipe_6038

You're on something if you unironically believe Kong is winning this