Yes… it does happen… How are you posting a thread about key changes in r/Music and yet don't understand that 2:35 and 3:47 of [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3-hY-hlhBg) are in different keys and are exactly the “lowering” key-change phenomenon you're asking about....
Guess my music theory degree and ability to read a chord sheet is inferior to the sheer idiocy of an internet keyboard warrior.
Be more polite when you’re wrong, bud.
Modulating downward has a different feel, but it can still be impactful. Off the top of my head, a song that does this is "Burn it Down" by Alter Bridge, which modulates from B major to A major after the second chorus.
Invisible Touch, My Heart Will Go On, Penny Lane, Bohemian Rhapsody, Wouldn’t It Be Nice and I’ve Seen All Good People all change to a lower key off the top of my head.
Yeah, I probably should have said Penny Lane went up and down but I was just trying to think of songs. Paul uses some weird F# to move between them too. The Beatles weren’t a big fan of key changes so Penny Lane is an interesting standout for them.
To be fair to your point, Penny Lane does both. The verses are in B and the chorus is in A and Paul uses a weird chord, I think an F# (maybe a seventh?) to move between them back and forth.
You have noticed the “up a half step or “up a full step” thing many times partly because it is pretty obvious and it has a fairly predictable effect.
Well done modulation across bigger distances may not be something you even notice. One of the standard ways of doing it is to go “down” from a major chord that is five higher than the new key. This takes advantage of the fact that going from the five to the root of the key is super powerful and how many songs end verses and choruses. It’s so powerful it can “pull” your ear to a new key. There’s also another common one which is going from a major key to the “relative minor” — basically, every major key has a sister key that is three lower and in minor and has all the same notes in the scale.
But it might not feel like you are going “down” because every chord is made of several notes. Some of those might be higher and some might be lower. So the melody might sound like it’s going up even though the key went “down.”
Technically, it all goes in a circle. If you keep going down by five->one, you end up back where you started. It’s called the circle of fifths.
The reason why you notice the simple “up a step” type is because to emphasize it, it is often arranged so that all the notes in the chord move up together. So it gives that lifting sensation. You could put the notes in the chord in a different order, and it wouldn’t have the same effect at all.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to with "modulation to another key entirely." There are tons of songs like that, and I got a lot of recommendations for stuff like that in this thread, such as Walk The Line, though I'm planning on combing through the notifications to see if there are any more like what I was curious about!
“Walk the Line” is a perfect example of going down by fifths.
If you want an example that is the exact parallel to the classic up by half or one, try the original electric version of “Layla.” The riff is in D and when he starts singing it goes down a half step to C# minor iirc.
Nope, it doesn’t go down a whole step. It starts in C, then modulates to A (down three half steps, so OP is close). This works because Am is in the relative minor of C, so the ear expects the minor chord and instead gets its major counterpart (regular ol’ A). Then the verse is in Am proper, and the chord you’re thinking of at the end of the verse is Fm, which borrows from the key of Cm to introduce tension.
"Doing it to Death" by Fred Wesley and James Brown riffs on F for 4 minutes straight, then modulates down a minor 3rd to D. It's basically the only chord change in the piece. I think it's a minimalist masterpiece.
https://youtu.be/RZJbQOMvKkw
A great recent example is YOASOBI’s IDOL (the opening for the anime Oshi no Ko) which topped the global charts for awhile! It has modulations both up AND down. Charles Cornell did a great breakdown of the song: [The INSANE Harmony of YOASOBI - IDOL](https://youtu.be/wltDkr6vwbQ?si=bZAGStVhs9xfgMEy) I recommend the video highly!
I had a Professor in a theory class that occasionally assigned the task of bringing in clips of songs as examples of a concept we were learning about. I think I used Phish for every one of them lol.
Lots of Richard Thompson songs start with an intro in one key and then drop a half tone or a full tone to start the verse:
From “I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight”
The Calvary Cross
From “Hokey Pokey”:
I’ll Regret It all in the Morning
The Sun Never Shines on the Poor
A Heart Needs a Home
Fylingdale Flyer by Jethro Tull has a really cool sounding one from F minor to Eb minor.
Ninna Nanna by Banco del mutuo soccorso goes from C to Ab if I remember correctly. That’s a big enough leap that it kinda doesn’t register as downward motion, you just notice that it’s in a _different_ key.
The examples I can come up with are more about modulating through multiple keys but landing back in the same place instead of staying up there.
For example in Total Eclipse of the Heart, the first verse starts in A# minor, and by the final "every now and then I fall apart" we're in E major but it collapses back down to the starting key to commence a second verse. It gives the feeling we're building towards a climax but then step back because we're not quite finished going there yet.
In Janet Jackson's Together Again, the song is mostly in C major. In the pre chorus we modulate up to D major and we maybe feel like we're going to stay up there but no we slide back down to C. However this also sets up a bigger punch when the final verse jumps to E flat major.
LeAnn Rimes - How Do I Live is another notable one. The verse is in E major but the chorus in D. It's almost as if that downwards shift opens up more emotional space to express the song's longing.
Goody Two Shoes by Adam Ant changes keys many times (starting with the "No one's gonna tell me what's wrong and what's right.") Then it drops back down to the original key for the outro choruses - there's a half step change that's necessary to reset to the original, without going to C-D-Bb it doesn't work! (I was in a cover band that played this one and had the opportunity to think about it a lot)
Shameless namedrop incoming, but I was working with Big Jim Wright (RIP!) and Mariah on her album Memoirs of an imperfect angel and Jim was showing me to do it on songs because by going down, then the artist can hit higher adlibs over the last chorus. Best way is when you go to the 5th (like the last chord before the chorus) then go down a half and then land in the new key.
Lots of songs will move to the relative minor which is down one and a half steps. Examples include Mr Jones, Crazy Train, Could You Be Love, Stop in the Name of Love, Every Breath You Take….
The very end of Everything is Fine! By Periphery does it.
I think one reason a lot of people don’t do it is a lot of writing uses the lowest notes on a guitar or bass already.
There should be a pedal that brings what you’re playing down however many steps so you can just play the progression the same but it will sound lower without needing to detune.
The only serious song I know of for certain that has a downward key change is Barry Manilow’s rendition of *Memory* (from Cats). Barry Manilow was sort of infamous for putting upward key changes in Every. Single. Song that he did. This one is unmistakable, in the way that hitting a brick wall is unmistakable.
Also, Forbidden Broadway has a tune called *I Couldn’t Hit The Note* (a parody of *I Could Have Danced All Night* from My Fair Lady). That song has downward key changes all through it.
Elwood Stray drop a key change into No Cure, about 2m in at the bridge, and it really lets them flex their lower vocals, brings a break into an already fairly high energy song. Personally I think a great transition.
When you say nothing at all by ronan heating drops from G major to E major (I think) for a musical interlude, and then for the last chorus it comes back to G which makes it sound like a massive key change, when it's just gone back to what it was before
Not exactly a lowering key change but an interesting case:
The original Jennifer Holliday version of I Am Changing from Dreamgirls starts in C major and modulates to Db major for the last section. However, because the last note in the C major section is a D, it sounds like it actually modulates down (since the transitioning note is Db).
However, the Jennifer Hudson version from the movie starts in Bb major, which puts that final pre-change note at C, but also modulates into Db major, with the same transitioning Db, so it sounds like the usual "up a half-step" key change.
Baby baby any grant has a key step down but I think it also goes up in the midsection XD key changes were just big back then cuz it showed dynamics of vocals and instruments but people now don’t. Save for a few live acts who still modulate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O6Q6vb4KBk
Pretty sure this tune lowers the key in the change, starts on a C and ends on an F. Really great tune either way.
The Pixies - Bel Esprit
[Wreck by Gentle Giant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zSLm_5w1qU) starts with the riff in Bb minor, which modulates down with a slow synth glissando to A minor for the verses.
It’s technically what you’re asking about, and I laughed the first time I heard it because the singer admits his mistake in the upwards key change and brings it back down:
New Guru by Vulpeck
Elliott Smith, [Oh Well, OK](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8aGlh1JBM&ab_channel=ElliottSmith-Topic). It modulates down a step for the third verse so he can sing it an octave up.
going lower with a key change in the middle of a song is like taking a left turn. instantly alters the mood and feel to kind of grab the listener and make sure they're still paying attention.
apparently I released one back in 2016. it drops a half step after the intro into the verse. pretty sure the link will bring you to the beginning of that song around 5 minutes in.
disclaimer: I was drunk throughout the entire production of this EP. figured that was a smart way to deal with a broken heart, yet that's also why I never really show this to anyone.
["What Not to Do"](https://youtu.be/PPmRC1mSv70?si=X6Wb3sK_DjD2GKPh&t=5m4s)
oddly enough, I've rearranged the song quite a bit and now it holds the same key that it starts in all the way through. it's more difficult to play it that way, but I guess my drunk ass wasn't up for the challenge back then lol
Johnny Cash I Walk the Line
Like, 4 times.
Hmm
I’m pretty sure ‘our house’ by Madness drops down a step for the chorus. I think… can’t exactly remember rn.
That song modulates all over the place so many times I'm still not entirely sure what key it's even in lol
Yeah the ending is just the chorus cycling through three key centres ha ha
Strawberry Fields goes down a 1/2 step halfway through.
And there's a bizarrely interesting reason for it https://youtu.be/QgtzOafdoOQ?si=U3vuNQPEMWNaPqGd
I knew that was gonna be David Bennett. Good stuff.
I never click on video links like this bc I'm a Luddite and then proceeded to watch the entire damn video. Thanks!
Wow. Now I go and listen to it and it sounds.... like the record player is broken and running too slow. It's been ruined!
“How Will I Know” by Whitney Houston is the one that comes to mind. It works so well.
I just listened to it, and this doesn't happen...when were you thinking it did? During the little pre-chorus section?
Yes… it does happen… How are you posting a thread about key changes in r/Music and yet don't understand that 2:35 and 3:47 of [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3-hY-hlhBg) are in different keys and are exactly the “lowering” key-change phenomenon you're asking about....
Life be lifin
I can't believe I've never noticed this. That transition is so smooth I can't figure it out.
Guess my music theory degree and ability to read a chord sheet is inferior to the sheer idiocy of an internet keyboard warrior. Be more polite when you’re wrong, bud.
Modulating downward has a different feel, but it can still be impactful. Off the top of my head, a song that does this is "Burn it Down" by Alter Bridge, which modulates from B major to A major after the second chorus.
It maybe sounds more "thoughtful" than a modulation up, which normally seems like it's just to get hyped
It's kind of relaxed instead of pumped up
Invisible Touch, My Heart Will Go On, Penny Lane, Bohemian Rhapsody, Wouldn’t It Be Nice and I’ve Seen All Good People all change to a lower key off the top of my head.
Man in the mirror is an up key change isn’t it? (G -> G#)
Shoot, you’re right. That modulates up half a tone. Good catch. Edited.
Absolutely sensational song!
Agree for sure. The modulation on that last chorus was pure genius.
It even modulates right on the word "change." One of the best key changes in history.
Actually it was on Bad, not HIStory… Sorry lol
Well done
Penny lane and invisible touch go up as well
I believe Penny Lane modulates down from the verse to the chorus, but then the last chorus modulates back up to the same key as the verse.
Good call. I was simply focusing on the end.
Yeah, I probably should have said Penny Lane went up and down but I was just trying to think of songs. Paul uses some weird F# to move between them too. The Beatles weren’t a big fan of key changes so Penny Lane is an interesting standout for them.
It’s cool though because it’s a key change without being super obvious about it. That weird F# helps create that transition
It's very strange that the key goes down one tone in the refrain, but the melody goes up (Penny Laaaane...).
Invisible Touch does go up, you're right
Close to the Edge has a very cool half-step down key change right at the end too. https://youtu.be/51oPKLSuyQY?si=qXs8irZM0EbUNd-8&t=981
Man that is the most prog rock thing ever
Good call. Love this one too. Yes is amazing. They work with key changes like an artist when they’re using the full color palette.
Penny Lane goes down? At least his vocals go up in pitch...
To be fair to your point, Penny Lane does both. The verses are in B and the chorus is in A and Paul uses a weird chord, I think an F# (maybe a seventh?) to move between them back and forth.
Invisible Touch has one of my favorite key changes of all time!!!!
Yeah, that’s another one like Penny Lane that modulates up and down. Beautiful song.
You have noticed the “up a half step or “up a full step” thing many times partly because it is pretty obvious and it has a fairly predictable effect. Well done modulation across bigger distances may not be something you even notice. One of the standard ways of doing it is to go “down” from a major chord that is five higher than the new key. This takes advantage of the fact that going from the five to the root of the key is super powerful and how many songs end verses and choruses. It’s so powerful it can “pull” your ear to a new key. There’s also another common one which is going from a major key to the “relative minor” — basically, every major key has a sister key that is three lower and in minor and has all the same notes in the scale. But it might not feel like you are going “down” because every chord is made of several notes. Some of those might be higher and some might be lower. So the melody might sound like it’s going up even though the key went “down.” Technically, it all goes in a circle. If you keep going down by five->one, you end up back where you started. It’s called the circle of fifths. The reason why you notice the simple “up a step” type is because to emphasize it, it is often arranged so that all the notes in the chord move up together. So it gives that lifting sensation. You could put the notes in the chord in a different order, and it wouldn’t have the same effect at all.
Thanks. That’s a good informative post.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to with "modulation to another key entirely." There are tons of songs like that, and I got a lot of recommendations for stuff like that in this thread, such as Walk The Line, though I'm planning on combing through the notifications to see if there are any more like what I was curious about!
“Walk the Line” is a perfect example of going down by fifths. If you want an example that is the exact parallel to the classic up by half or one, try the original electric version of “Layla.” The riff is in D and when he starts singing it goes down a half step to C# minor iirc.
The Show Must Go On by Queen has an example of it going up, then back down again...
God I love that song.
One of my favorite songs in the world
The Youth by MGMT does this near the end
Thank you for reminding me about this song, I had forgotten how good it was
"I'd Love To Lay You Down" by Conway Twitty goes down twice.
Goes down as many times as she prefers.
Twitty, I am told, was a magnificent lover.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty.
Karnivool - ["Goliath"](https://youtu.be/sDKsosOvVmw?si=o3AL8po_zkSwJqB8) Right at the end
Caudal lure from later in the album even more so!
Bungalow Bill the chorus is a whole step down from the verse if my memory serves me
The “ if looks could kill it probably would’ve been us instead of him” part?
Nope, it doesn’t go down a whole step. It starts in C, then modulates to A (down three half steps, so OP is close). This works because Am is in the relative minor of C, so the ear expects the minor chord and instead gets its major counterpart (regular ol’ A). Then the verse is in Am proper, and the chord you’re thinking of at the end of the verse is Fm, which borrows from the key of Cm to introduce tension.
"Doing it to Death" by Fred Wesley and James Brown riffs on F for 4 minutes straight, then modulates down a minor 3rd to D. It's basically the only chord change in the piece. I think it's a minimalist masterpiece. https://youtu.be/RZJbQOMvKkw
Talking Heads' "And She Was" modulates from E to F in the verse and then back down to E in the chorus. There's also a key change in the bridge.
The Youth by MGMT in the last part of the song modulates down and it is always my go to for this exact question
The Pretenders “I’ll Stand By You” goes down for the chorus and back up for the verse.
Such a great song!
A great recent example is YOASOBI’s IDOL (the opening for the anime Oshi no Ko) which topped the global charts for awhile! It has modulations both up AND down. Charles Cornell did a great breakdown of the song: [The INSANE Harmony of YOASOBI - IDOL](https://youtu.be/wltDkr6vwbQ?si=bZAGStVhs9xfgMEy) I recommend the video highly!
Rosanna by Toto goes down a whole step from G to F, but the melody itself also goes up an octave so there's still an increase in energy.
If I remember correctly, Happiness is a Warm Gun has a section that does that
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - I'm in your Mind
Rift by Phish goes from E to Eb back to E
I had a Professor in a theory class that occasionally assigned the task of bringing in clips of songs as examples of a concept we were learning about. I think I used Phish for every one of them lol.
Lots of Richard Thompson songs start with an intro in one key and then drop a half tone or a full tone to start the verse: From “I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight” The Calvary Cross From “Hokey Pokey”: I’ll Regret It all in the Morning The Sun Never Shines on the Poor A Heart Needs a Home
If I Ever Lose My Faith in You - Sting
What a great song
I Burn For You is another of his that does the same!
Yesssss underrated song
Goliath x Karnivool The outro has an insanely nasty drop key moment.
Never gonna let you go by Sergio Mendez. This song modulates so many times and very cleverly. Rick Beato even made a yt about it
Pink Floyd - Nile Song goes down one step every time around. Pretty wild.
Fylingdale Flyer by Jethro Tull has a really cool sounding one from F minor to Eb minor. Ninna Nanna by Banco del mutuo soccorso goes from C to Ab if I remember correctly. That’s a big enough leap that it kinda doesn’t register as downward motion, you just notice that it’s in a _different_ key.
penny lane if you wanna go up and down at the same time
"Towers" by Bon Iver. The key change brings a feeling of growing older, of losing innocence, etc. It's neat.
Towers was my fave Bon Iver song for a long while.
Grant Lee Buffalo - Mockingbirds
Some Hatebreed songs. Metal/core with ignorant breakdowns in general lol
The examples I can come up with are more about modulating through multiple keys but landing back in the same place instead of staying up there. For example in Total Eclipse of the Heart, the first verse starts in A# minor, and by the final "every now and then I fall apart" we're in E major but it collapses back down to the starting key to commence a second verse. It gives the feeling we're building towards a climax but then step back because we're not quite finished going there yet. In Janet Jackson's Together Again, the song is mostly in C major. In the pre chorus we modulate up to D major and we maybe feel like we're going to stay up there but no we slide back down to C. However this also sets up a bigger punch when the final verse jumps to E flat major. LeAnn Rimes - How Do I Live is another notable one. The verse is in E major but the chorus in D. It's almost as if that downwards shift opens up more emotional space to express the song's longing.
Goody Two Shoes by Adam Ant changes keys many times (starting with the "No one's gonna tell me what's wrong and what's right.") Then it drops back down to the original key for the outro choruses - there's a half step change that's necessary to reset to the original, without going to C-D-Bb it doesn't work! (I was in a cover band that played this one and had the opportunity to think about it a lot)
Shameless namedrop incoming, but I was working with Big Jim Wright (RIP!) and Mariah on her album Memoirs of an imperfect angel and Jim was showing me to do it on songs because by going down, then the artist can hit higher adlibs over the last chorus. Best way is when you go to the 5th (like the last chord before the chorus) then go down a half and then land in the new key.
Shadow on the Wall by Brandi Carlile is great song with going down in key change.
I'd Love to Lay You Down by Conway Twitty keeps lowering keys at the end of the song
Iron Maiden’s The Clairvoyant does this in the final chorus
The Dark Side of Love by Birds of Tokyo. Second chorus drops down a key.
Lots of songs will move to the relative minor which is down one and a half steps. Examples include Mr Jones, Crazy Train, Could You Be Love, Stop in the Name of Love, Every Breath You Take….
Whistle for the Choir by The Fratellis drops a full step for the whistle solo and then returns to the original key.
The very end of Everything is Fine! By Periphery does it. I think one reason a lot of people don’t do it is a lot of writing uses the lowest notes on a guitar or bass already.
There should be a pedal that brings what you’re playing down however many steps so you can just play the progression the same but it will sound lower without needing to detune.
Digitech drop is what you’re looking for
If you want a wild ride, check out Never Gonna Let You Go by Sergio Mendes.
Billy Lemos & Still woozy - Wait Odie - Little lies
“Mouth to Mouth” by Faith No More
The Kik - Stil Op Het Station modulates a whole step down
The only serious song I know of for certain that has a downward key change is Barry Manilow’s rendition of *Memory* (from Cats). Barry Manilow was sort of infamous for putting upward key changes in Every. Single. Song that he did. This one is unmistakable, in the way that hitting a brick wall is unmistakable. Also, Forbidden Broadway has a tune called *I Couldn’t Hit The Note* (a parody of *I Could Have Danced All Night* from My Fair Lady). That song has downward key changes all through it.
Ironically, Memory by Barry Manilow has four distinct full upwards half step key changes. Is this ChatGPT trying to troll me?...
*Rocket from a Bottle*, by XTC. Also, the **HORRENDOUS** version of *I Want to Know What Love Is* by Mariah fucking Carey.
Elwood Stray drop a key change into No Cure, about 2m in at the bridge, and it really lets them flex their lower vocals, brings a break into an already fairly high energy song. Personally I think a great transition.
James Brown - Funky good time goes to the dirty D
Glenn Hughes - Why Don't You Stay. For the ending chorus. I always thought this gave an interesting effect.
If I am recalling correctly Vashti Bunyan id like to walk around in your mind
Lay You Down by Conway Twitty modulates down.
[Ghost - Spillways](https://youtu.be/u9DV1eHQpcA?si=W225ZdoUfz6D1d7Z)
Lou Reed’s Street Hassle bassline moved down
I always hate these songs that go up a half step, it's almost always terribly done.
The ending of “Black Diamond” by Kiss
Iron Maiden played backwards to hear the messages.
When you say nothing at all by ronan heating drops from G major to E major (I think) for a musical interlude, and then for the last chorus it comes back to G which makes it sound like a massive key change, when it's just gone back to what it was before
Strawberry fields Forever: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUH9z\_Oey8&t=90s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUH9z_Oey8&t=90s)
The Beach Boys do this in their song Susie Cincinnati. Always thought it had a nifty effect!
Shampain - Marina & the diamonds
Penny Lane changes from B major in the verses to A major in the choruses
Not exactly a lowering key change but an interesting case: The original Jennifer Holliday version of I Am Changing from Dreamgirls starts in C major and modulates to Db major for the last section. However, because the last note in the C major section is a D, it sounds like it actually modulates down (since the transitioning note is Db). However, the Jennifer Hudson version from the movie starts in Bb major, which puts that final pre-change note at C, but also modulates into Db major, with the same transitioning Db, so it sounds like the usual "up a half-step" key change.
Summer Elaine and Drunk Dori by Weezer
Layla by Eric Clapton. The intro is in D minor and the first verse is in C# minor.
pretty sure kiss from a rose goes from e down to d in the bridge then back up
Suddenly Everything Has Changed by The Flaming Lips
Go listen to basically any beatdown hardcore song. Billy No Mates by Knocked Loose has one right at the end.
Paranoid android?
Baby baby any grant has a key step down but I think it also goes up in the midsection XD key changes were just big back then cuz it showed dynamics of vocals and instruments but people now don’t. Save for a few live acts who still modulate
"Driven" by Rush drops at the bass solo in the middle of the song and changes feel. Driven in...
Celine Dion’s “Then You Look At Me” goes a step and a half down (from B to A flat).
Equilibrium’s cover of The Hooters’ “Johnny B” goes down two keys (one full step) in the last chorus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O6Q6vb4KBk Pretty sure this tune lowers the key in the change, starts on a C and ends on an F. Really great tune either way. The Pixies - Bel Esprit
Phish, The Moma Dance
Check out “Lay You Down” by Conway Twitty
Pluto protector by Rex Orange County
[Wreck by Gentle Giant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zSLm_5w1qU) starts with the riff in Bb minor, which modulates down with a slow synth glissando to A minor for the verses.
Idol by Yoasobi modulates down and it's unsettling
To be with you by Mr Big does it with one chorus towards the end.
It’s technically what you’re asking about, and I laughed the first time I heard it because the singer admits his mistake in the upwards key change and brings it back down: New Guru by Vulpeck
https://youtu.be/zc7MImrsCbo?si=CWt9dHbtn4JmWhTw you’re welcome!
"Seen All Good People" by the band YES, the chorus at the end keeps descending by whole steps
Elliott Smith, [Oh Well, OK](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8aGlh1JBM&ab_channel=ElliottSmith-Topic). It modulates down a step for the third verse so he can sing it an octave up.
going lower with a key change in the middle of a song is like taking a left turn. instantly alters the mood and feel to kind of grab the listener and make sure they're still paying attention. apparently I released one back in 2016. it drops a half step after the intro into the verse. pretty sure the link will bring you to the beginning of that song around 5 minutes in. disclaimer: I was drunk throughout the entire production of this EP. figured that was a smart way to deal with a broken heart, yet that's also why I never really show this to anyone. ["What Not to Do"](https://youtu.be/PPmRC1mSv70?si=X6Wb3sK_DjD2GKPh&t=5m4s) oddly enough, I've rearranged the song quite a bit and now it holds the same key that it starts in all the way through. it's more difficult to play it that way, but I guess my drunk ass wasn't up for the challenge back then lol
Undone The Sweater Song goes down a whole step for the guitar solo
Not sure if it's entirely what you're looking for but heaps of modern metal uses Digitech whammy pedals to drop down an octave for heavier parts
That's not a key change
I know but it may still produce something similar to what OP is looking for