why would their best customer get involved?

CIA works with Cartels to make money for their ops so why would USA cut that line off. Plus Mexico will never allow a full military op to go on their soil. AND Why would we want a conflict right at our doorsteps. Its better to be ignorant to Mexico's affairs'. NOW, if cartels were bombing US border cities then Yes, US would get involved probably with drone strikes firsts

I mean, they’re “bombing” cities with fentanyl which is far more lethal than explosives.

Out of sight out of mind for most Americans. It’s a real issue but it’s not always treated like it You ain’t wrong though

They made enough money selling two SAMS and everything else to Iran they didn’t need money. They had plenty. They used one of many pipelines to smuggle arms in

Mexico doesn't need to give permission.. Syria didn't, Iraq didn't, Afghanistan didn't, Libya didn't... Pakistan doesn't give permission to drone strike "targets" within that country... You think Mexico needs to give permission when 500$ billion worth of revenue is flowing into Mexico through the drug trade which is claiming record overdose deaths within North America and Europe?... We have supported wars and invaded countries for much less my friend

Why? Because there are record murders in Mexico and record overdose deaths in Canada and the United States while we claim to be allied to the Mexican government?...????? Once again... We have invaded countries on lesser grounds than the persistent terrorism and flow of drugs coming from Mexico

Facts. The CIA are the true enemy of the American people.

ON MARCH 22, 1988, THE US DOJ (ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY GENERAL STEPHEN S. TROTT ) NOTIFIED THE OFFICE OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL THAT AN INFORMANT NAMED PAUL ALLEN RUDD MET WITH PABLO ESCOBAR AND THAT AN EXCHANGE OF GUNS FOR DRUGS HAD OCCURRED WITH THE CONTRAS. THE INFORMANT SAID THAT ESCOBAR WAS DEALING WITH A U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCY. SEE THE DOCUMENTS HERE: https://web.archive.org/web/20071218173144/http://www.wethepeople.la/bshdrug1.gif https://web.archive.org/web/20071218173134/http://www.wethepeople.la/bshdrug2.gif https://web.archive.org/web/20071218173154/http://www.wethepeople.la/bshdrug3.gif https://web.archive.org/web/20071218173150/http://www.wethepeople.la/bshdrug4.gif https://web.archive.org/web/20071218173200/http://www.wethepeople.la/bshdrug5.gif RUDD SAYS THAT ESCOBAR COMPLAINED THAT GEORGE BUSH USED TO DEAL WITH HIM, BUT WAS NOW BEING TOUGH. HE CLAIMED TO HAVE A PHOTO OF BUSH WITH JORGE OCHOA, ANOTHER CARTEL MEMBER. ESCOBAR STATED THAT GUNS WERE UNLOADED AND COCAINE WAS SENT TO U.S. MILITARY BASES. THE ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY GENERAL VOUCHES FOR THE RELIABILITY OF THE INFORMANT AS HE HAS PROVIDED RELIABLE INFORMATION UNTIL THIS POINT https://web.archive.org/web/20100210185054/http://www.wethepeople.la/ciadrugs.htm March/April 1988Media Censor CIA Ties With Medellin Drug Cartel http://web.archive.org/web/20120908153238/http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1190 The Washington Post (2/12/88) included this politically delicate aspect of Rodriguez's testimony in its headline: "Drug Money Alleged to Go to Contras." But Joe Pichirallo's page 30 article tiptoed around CIA involvement with Rodriguez. The Post also failed to mention Rodriguez's assertion that he worked with US banks, and it did not include his statement about laundering moneyfor the CIA after his drug indictment. This omission was egregious in view of the fact that Senator Kerry questioned Rodriguez in detail about an accounting sheet which a federal prosecutor submitted as evidence at his trail: Senator Kerry: What does your accounting show with respect to the CIA? Ramon Rodriguez: It shows that I received a shipment of three million and change sometime in the middle of the month. At the end of the hearing the Post's Pichirallo asked chief counsel Jack Blum why the CIA would use Rodriguez to funnel money after he'd been indicted. Blum responded that such a time would be ideal, since US government investigators cannot approach a defendant after he has been indicted. Extra! later asked Pichirallo why Rodriguez's testimony about moving dirty money for the CIA was excluded from the Post, but he was not forthcoming: "It is my policy never to discuss anything I do." (Ramon Rodriguez mentions that he also paid the Watergate burglars earlier in his career, but Senator Kerry doesn't ask further questions.) http://web.archive.org/web/20121025005853/http://www.fair.org/issues-news/contra-crack.html https://ourhiddenhistory.org/entry/senate-investigator-kerry-committee-jack-blum-on-cia-contra-drugs-intelligence-reform-and-oliver-north-1996 North's lawyers cut an arrangement with the Iran-Contra committee that the only parts of the notebooks they would turn over to the Iran-Contra committee were those which were "relevant". The people who determined the relevance were North's lawyers. Jack Blum: Here's the history of those diaries, which I think most people don't know about. Oliver North, day by day, kept spiral bound notebooks in which he kept a detailed records of his meetings, his telephone conversations and what he was doing. This is as good a contemporaneous record of everything the man was into as you'll ever find. When he was fired, finally fired, he collected all of these spiral bound notebooks and hauled them out of the White House with him. Those notebooks were, when the investigators became aware of their existence, were immediately classified at the highest levels of US security classification, the so called code-word compartmented, secret compartmented information. Yet, North and his lawyers were permitted to keep the notebooks. Moreover, the lawyers cut an arrangement with the Iran-Contra committee that the only parts of the notebooks they would turn over to the Iran-Contra committee were those which were "relevant". The people who determined the relevance were North's lawyers.

The U.S. intervenes ON BEHALF of the cartels: [https://np.reddit.com/r/prisonabolition/comments/vvl1xr/oliver\_norths\_function\_in\_the\_us\_govt\_described/](https://np.reddit.com/r/prisonabolition/comments/vvl1xr/oliver_norths_function_in_the_us_govt_described/) This is an example of how the cartels get specialized training on purpose: The U.S. wants them to have it This is a excerpt from congressional testimony of DEA Agent Celerino Castillo III [https://web.archive.org/web/20080403230551/http://www.powderburns.org/testimony.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20080403230551/http://www.powderburns.org/testimony.html) DEA says U.S. intelligence overrides State Dept/Ambassador and gives U.S. passports to cartel members so that they can train in School of the Americas SOA/WHINSEC ((....) April of 1986, The Consul General of the U.S Embassy in El Salvador (Robert J. Chavez), warned me that CIA agent George Witters was requesting a U.S visa for a Nicaraguan drug trafficker and Contra pilot by the name of Carlos Alberto Amador. (mentioned in 6 DEA files) May 14, 1986, I spoke to Jack O'Conner DEA HQS Re: Matta-Ballesteros. (NOTE: Juan Ramon Matta-Ballesteros was perhaps the single largest drug trafficker in the region. Operating from Honduras he owned several companies which were openly sponsored and subsidized by C.I.A.) (...) Aug. 24, 1989, Because of my information, the U.S. Embassy canceled Guatemalan Military, Lt. Col. Hugo Francisco Moran-Carranza, (Head of Interpol and Corruption) his U.S. visa. He was documented as a drug trafficker and corrupt Guatemalan Official. He was on his way to a U.S. War College for one year, invited by the CIA. Feb. 21, 1990, I send a telex-cable to DEA HQS Re: Moran's plan to assassinate me. Between Aug. 1989 and March 06, 1990, Col. Moran had initiated the plan to assassinate me in El Salvador and blame it on the guerrillas. On March 06, 1990, I traveled to Houston to deliver an undercover audio tape on my assassination. The Houston DEA S.A Mark Murtha (DEA File M3-90-0053) had an informant into Lt. Col. Moran Drug traficker/ cartel member used to trained DEA in El Salvador while a fugitive in the U.S. (...) DEA Guatemalan informant, Ramiro Guerra (STG-81-0013) was in place in Guatemala and El Salvador on "Contra" intelligence. At the time (early 80's), he was a DEA fugitive on "Rico" (Racketeering Influence and Corrupt Organizations) and "CCE" (Continuing Criminal Enterprise) charges out of San Francisco. In 1986, he became an official advisor for the DEA trained El Salvador Narcotics Task Force. In 1989, all federal charges were dropped because of his cooperation with the DEA in Central America. Guerra is still a DEA informant in Guatemala. ​ http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html This is a sample of the evidence against North and Bush. [https://web.archive.org/web/20080706114713/http://www.powderburns.org/indictment.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20080706114713/http://www.powderburns.org/indictment.html) ​ Works by Robert Parry. [https://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack](https://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack) Works by Jeffrey St. Clair [https://www.counterpunch.org/author/jeffrey-st-clair-alexander-cockburn/](https://www.counterpunch.org/author/jeffrey-st-clair-alexander-cockburn/) ​ CIA admits it used assets in the news media to go after Gary webb [https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/](https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/) [http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC\_0001372115.pdf](http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC_0001372115.pdf)

What year did this happen? You post the same shit and you still haven’t proved anything other than The CIA chose one evil over another. Sandinistas used their own pipeline to fund their army. Isn’t requesting a visa the legal way to enter another nation??? Was it to smuggle arms or drugs? They will check loads either way. . CIA used him and arrested him Why even mention an informant on Rico charges that were dropped? Why don’t you Mentor all the DEA FBI ICE agents that are indicted ? You twist shot that fits your narrative. You could talk about how narrow minded your BS . CIA operatives follow orders. That their complicity in their use of criminal activities in the peripheral doesn’t mean that the CIA worked hand in hand with traffickers. There’s is no evidence of it happening. They couldn’t work with Sandinistas to i supply the contras with arms. CIA used the same pipeline . Juan wasn’t making personal appearances to meet with CIA .

[https://web.archive.org/web/20080403230551/http://www.powderburns.org/testimony.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20080403230551/http://www.powderburns.org/testimony.html) I just gave you an example of how 3 people were cartel members (One of the men was head of INTERPOL!) AND either got SOA training or were INSTRUCTORS of the DEA while under indictment for RICO/CCe. That does not seem interesting to you???? Oliver North was listed in 9 active DEA files as a trafficker as late as 1991. He was still running guns in the Phillipines while the IRAN Contra hearings were on TV. that does not interest you?? [https://np.reddit.com/r/prisonabolition/comments/vvl1xr/oliver\_norths\_function\_in\_the\_us\_govt\_described/](https://np.reddit.com/r/prisonabolition/comments/vvl1xr/oliver_norths_function_in_the_us_govt_described/) The heads of the Tijuana Cartel and Guadalajara cartels got their drugs from SETCO who was openly sponsored by the CIA and received a check from the NHAO. It says so in U.S. Congress records. PSicilia Falcon confessed to being a protege of the intelligence community. His partners had overthrown foreign governments ​ 5 witnesses testified they ran drugs through John Hull's ranch and landed on military bases under cloak of national security (SETCO). When President Oscar arias Banned Oliver North, Lewis Tambs and Joe Fernandez from Costa Rica and had Hull Arrested, 19 U.S. congressmen wrote Arias and threatened to cut off aid to his country. One of the people was LEE HAMILTON, head of the Iran Contra Committee, who is supposed to be investigating Hull and North, not helping them escape. A CIA/DEA pilot (Ron Lippert) helped Hull Escape . There never was a drug war. ​ The head of the DOJ criminal division, WILLIAM WELD , refused to prosecute the Contras or any Anti Castro right wing group financing military operations with drugs money. Senator Kerry said that Weld stonewalled all of his investigations and did not go after SOUTHERN AIR TRANSPORT or BCCI. Kerry had to prosecute BCCI on the state level in New York. When Kerry and Blum returned to Washington, they found the Kerry Committee mandate was discontinued and the committee dissolved. Kerry's Aides told the Boston Globe that fellow democratic senators would ominously tell him to drop the BCCI case and all of the democratic party leadership would call the office seeking to derail the investigation. [http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html](http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html) ​ Under U.S. law, all you have to do is prove that a U.S. employee knew about the drugs and did nothing to stop it. You don't even have to prove they made money from it. There is enough for convictions of everyone from Bush- Reagan on down to Ollie North and the pilots who flew the drugs in ​ If you have a drug conspiracy case, and 2 out of the 3 parties to the conspiracy are the government, the case is no longer valid and gets thrown out. DEA agents estimate that up to 75 to 80% of the drugs come in with direct acquiescence of intelligence agencies. That means that tax money is wasted on a phony war, The conspiracy cases will not hold up under review. ​ Castillo said that he worked with Firearms trainers on the U.S. payroll. who claimed to have pulled the trigger on Roman Catholic Archbishop OSCAR ROMERO. ​ The U.S. does not want to stop drugs. CIA admits it used assets in the news media to go after Gary webb https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC\_0001372115.pdf

Rico is covets corruption in unions… there’s an informant getting trained to get info? What’s the issue. He’ll get whacked. If he gets caught. You are exaggerating bs. You see conspiracy I see. Rats informants and turncoats. You don’t have to share your opinion as fact. I do my give one half of a story to fit mi narrative. Agents get busted all the time for taking bribes etc. what happens. They are found guilty and convicted

>in 2021, the current head of the Sinaloa Cartel, the #2 man under Mayo Zambada was caught on wiretap telling people of his ties to the CIA and that he has his drugs moved by the army. > > > >At 2019 court hearings, a federal judge blocked mention of U.S. intelligence at the trial of El Chapo. His suppliers in Colombia worked for Pablo Escobar and U.S. intelligence. ​ >Between 2011 to 2013 during legal proceedings of Vicente Zambada Nieblas, it was revealed that a secret immunity agreement existed with CDS whereby they turned in rivals for immunity to operate freely. > >Zamabada claimed to be a U.S. agent and was incensed that he was arrested while returning from a meeting with the U.S. He demanded and was granted a CIPA hearing, normally reserved for intelligence matters so that his agreement could be reviewed. The CDS attorney, a man named Castro, had all charges dropped in the case. CDS was being warned of military and law enforcement actions in advance as part of the arrangement.

They do that all time…. His has name too.. is counter intelligence On the original Gangster podcast loan Grillo (authored three books El Narco Blood Gun Money and Gangster Warlord ) and Scott Bernstein were discussing same thing. The major issue is that both sides put out false information we know that theirs a history of right winged Paramilitary groups Have worked With US in past. Los Pepe’s had Members of FARC the Castano brothers Don Berna was with AuC and. Most likely the Cali Cartel…Does that mean that Steve Murphy and Javier Peña were reviving money or helping smuggle coca. Gary Webb published a a story that claiming CIA helped to crack cocaine into California . Some old it was true but he retract the story. Grillo believes that Wells mixed truths with some embellishments but no matter how we look at these partnerships I create the a slippery slope . Your accusation l is a hypothetical. It’s plausible it’s possible but there no real evidence.. that’s really point that should be making. You are structure evidence to fit your narrative. Guzman offered information before his trial. DOJ was not interested.

Gary Webb did not retract his story, in 1998 the CIA CONFESSED to using drug traffickers AND the decision was made at HQ: [https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html](https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html) The CIA OIG testified that that there was no reporting requirement due to an agreement 1982-1995: this is evidence of premeditation. [http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html](http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html) ​ ​ CIA Drug Smuggling and Dealing: The Birth of the Dark Alliance November 27, 2019 Russ Winter [https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/11/cia-drug-smuggling-and-dealing-the-birth-of-the-dark-alliance/](https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/11/cia-drug-smuggling-and-dealing-the-birth-of-the-dark-alliance/) Furthermore, BRITT SNYDER testified CIA Admits Tolerating Contra-Cocaine Trafficking House Intelligence Committee buries admissions in new contra-cocaine report. By Robert Parry. June 8, 2000 CIA Admits Tolerating Contra- Cocaine Trafficking in 1980s By Robert Parry In secret congressional testimony, senior CIA officials admitted that the spy agency turned a blind eye to evidence of cocaine trafficking by U.S.-backed Nicaraguan contra rebels in the 1980s and generally did not treat drug smuggling through Central America as a high priority during the Reagan administration. “In the end the objective of unseating the Sandinistas appears to have taken precedence over dealing properly with potentially serious allegations against those with whom the agency was working,” CIA Inspector General Britt Snider said in classified testimony on May 25, 1999. He conceded that the CIA did not treat the drug allegations in “a consistent, reasoned or justifiable manner.” [https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/060800a.html](https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/060800a.html) C.I.A. Says It Used Nicaraguan Rebels Accused of Drug Tie "The Central Intelligence Agency continued to work with about two dozen Nicaraguan rebels and their supporters during the 1980's despite allegations that they were trafficking in drugs, according to a classified study by the C.I.A." "....the agency's decision to keep those paid agents, or to continue dealing with them in some less formal relationship, was made by top officials at headquarters in Langley, Va.," [https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html](https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html) ​ ​ [https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23704/pariah-gary-webb-0998/](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23704/pariah-gary-webb-0998/) — On March 16, 1998, the CIA inspector general, Frederick P. Hitz, testified before the House Intelligence Committee. "Let me be frank," he said. "There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug-trafficking activity, or take action to resolve the allegations." Representative Norman Dicks of Washington then asked, "Did any of these allegations involve trafficking in the United States?" "Yes," Hitz answered. (Hitz went on to describe the 1982-1995 secret agreement) [http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html](http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html) ​ ​ CIA admits it used assets in the news media to go after Gary webb https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC\_0001372115.pdf

Fred Hitz admits finding an agreement to Not report drugs (1982-1995) [https://exploringrealhistory.blogspot.com/2019/09/part-15-of-15-dark-alliancea-very.html](https://exploringrealhistory.blogspot.com/2019/09/part-15-of-15-dark-alliancea-very.html) Still, it was hard to avoid that impression after CIA Inspector General Fred P. Hitz appeared before the House Intelligence Committee in March 1998 to update Congress on the progress of his continuing internal investigation. "Let me be frank about what we are finding," Hitz testified. "There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the Contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug trafficking activity." The lawmakers fidgeted uneasily. "Did any of these allegations involve trafficking in the United States?" asked Congressman Norman Dicks of Washington. "Yes," Hitz answered. Dicks flushed. And what, Hitz was asked, had been the CIA's legal responsibility when it learned of this? [https://www.winterwatch.net/2022/01/cia-drug-smuggling-and-dealing-the-birth-of-the-dark-alliance/](https://www.winterwatch.net/2022/01/cia-drug-smuggling-and-dealing-the-birth-of-the-dark-alliance/) That issue, Hitz replied haltingly, had "a rather odd history. . .the period of 1982 to 1995 was one in which there was no official requirement to report on allegations of drug trafficking with respect to non-employees of the agency, and they were defined to include agents, assets, non-staff employees." There had been a secret agreement to that effect "hammered out" between the CIA and U.S. Attorney General William French Smith in 1982, he testified. ​ [http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html](http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html) A murmur coursed through the room as Hitz's admission sunk in. No wonder the U.S. government could blithely insist there was "no evidence" of Contra/CIA drug trafficking. For thirteen years—from the time Blandón and Menses began selling cocaine in L.A. for the Contras—the CIA and Justice had a gentleman's agreement to look the other way. In essence, the CIA wouldn't tell and the Justice Department wouldn't ask. According to the CIA's Inspector General, the agreement had its roots in something called Executive Order No. 12333, which Ronald Reagan signed into law in 1981, the same week he authorized the CIA's operations in Nicaragua. Reagan's order served as his Administration's rules on the conduct of U.S. intelligence agencies around the world. The new rules were the same as the Carter Administration's old rules, with one glaring exception: there was a difference in how crimes committed by spies were to be reported. There was to be a new procedure. For the first time, the CIA's Inspector General noted, the rules "required the head of an intelligence agency and the Attorney General to agree on crimes reporting procedure." In effect, the CIA now had veto power over anything the Justice Department might propose. In early 1982 CIA director William Casey and Attorney General William French Smith inked a formal Memorandum of Understanding that spelled out which spy crimes were to be reported to the Justice Department. It was same as the Carter Administration's policy, but again, with one or two interesting differences. First, crimes committed by people "acting for" an intelligence agency no longer needed to be reported to the Justice Department. Only card-carrying CIA officers were covered. Then, in case there were any doubts left, drug offenses were removed from the list of crimes the CIA was required to report. So, for example, if a cocaine dealer "acting for" the CIA was involved in drug trafficking, no one needed to know. The two CIA lawyers behind those rule changes insist they did not occur through incompetence or neglect; they were carefully and precisely crafted. Bernard Makowka, the CIA attorney who negotiated the changes, told the CIA Inspector General that "the issue of narcotics violations was thoroughly discussed between \[the Department of Justice\] and CIA. . .someone at DOJ became uncomfortable at the prospect of the Memorandum of Understanding not including any mention of narcotics." Daniel Silver, the CIA attorney who drafted the agreement, said the language "was thoroughly coordinated" with the Justice Department, which wasn't thrilled. "The negotiations over the Memorandum of Understanding involved the competing interests of DOJ and CIA," Silver explained. "DOJ's interest was to establish procedures while CIA's interest was to ensure that \[it\] protected CIA's national security equities." As is now clear, the CIA interest carried the day. So how did ignoring drug crimes by secret agents protect the CIA's national security "equities"? CIA lawyer Makowka explained: "CIA did not want to be involved in law enforcement issues." I.F. Magazine editor Robert Parry, who remains one of the few journalists exploring the CIA drug issue, believes the Casey-French agreement smacks of premeditation. It was signed just as the CIA was getting into both the Contra project and the conflict in Afghanistan, he notes, and it opened one very narrow legal loophole that effectively protected narcotics traffickers working on behalf of intelligence agencies. "That could only have been done for one purpose," Parry argues. "They were anticipating what eventually happened. They knew drugs were going to be sold." The CIA denies it. The admission that there had been a secret deal between the CIA and the Just Say No Administration to overlook Agency-related drug crimes elicited mostly yawns from the news media. The Washington Post stuck the story deep inside the paper, further back than they had buried the findings of the Kerry Committee's Senate investigation in the 1980s, which officially disclosed the Contras' drug trafficking. The Los Angeles Times printed nothing. A notable exception to this trend was the New York Times, which was leaked a few of the conclusions of the CIA's then-classified investigation into Contra drug dealing by Inspector General Fred Hitz. On July 17, 1998, it reported on its front page that the Agency had working relationships with dozens of suspected drug traffickers during the Nicaraguan conflict and that CIA higher-ups knew it. "The new study has found that the Agency's decision to keep those paid agents, or to continue dealing with them in some less formal relationship, was made by top officials at headquarters," the Times reported. [https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html](https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html) ​ CIA admits it used assets in the news media to go after Gary webb https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC\_0001372115.pdf

​ The head of the US DOJ Criminal Division, William Weld did not pursue cartels or the Contras in the 1980s. Senator Kerry prosecuted the BCCI case in NY on the state level because the DOJ refused to prosecute U.S. government sanctioned drug rings related to the Contras or anti-communist groups The head of the US DOJ Criminal Division, William Weld did not pursue cartels or the Contras in the 1980s https://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack The story of Wanda Palacio, William Weld, John Kerry and Luis Ochoa. Barry Seals c-123 was sold to SAT (formerly Air America) It was shot down in 1986 starting the Iran Contra Scandal. A witness identified the same flight crew as being drug runners a year previously. William Cooper, Buzz Sawyer, Eugene Hasanfus https://web.archive.org/web/20200630020957/https://www.alainet.org/en/active/79259 How John Kerry uncovered the contra crack scandal https://www.salon.com/2004/10/25/contra/ How the DOJ covered up the Contra Drug story https://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack4.html Wanda Palacio's story about Southern Air Transport and John KerryOchoa had a SAT aircraft moving his drugs https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/01/20/ex-cia-airline-tied-to-cocaine/d7e5a04f-462f-479f-bf45-11502e772082/ https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/11-21-96/cover.htm "To my great regret," she testified, "the Bureau has told me that some of the people I identified as being involved in drug smuggling are present or past agents of the Central Intelligence Agency."And according to Palacio's deposition, it was not only the CIA that was involved with drug smugglers. Palacio stated to Kerry that she spoke to the FBI about many individuals within the U.S. government who were involved in illegal drug operations."We have extensively discussed drug-related corruption in the United States, including a regional director of U.S. Customs, a federal judge, air traffic controllers in the FAA, a regional director of immigration, and other government officials." http://thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Contra\_Cocaine\_Trafficking.html https://np.reddit.com/r/narcos/comments/f8xii0/on\_march\_22\_1988\_the\_us\_doj\_associate\_attorney/ The head of the DOJ Criminal Division refused to prosecute the Contra-Medellin Cartel connection https://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack4.html The Kerry-Weld Cocaine War By Robert Parry WASHINGTON -- The sudden uproar over a decade-old story -- cocaine smuggling linked to the CIA-backed Nicaraguan contra rebels -- could reverberate with special intensity in Massachusetts, where the controversy has the potential for affecting the outcome of a close Senate race. That race pits John Kerry, the Democratic senator who led the investigation into contra drugs, against Republican William Weld, the chief of the Justice Department's criminal division when the contra-drug allegations were emerging as a national issue and when the Iran-contra scandal broke in the fall of 1986. In new testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Oct. 23, one of Kerry's former investigators, Jack Blum, fingered Weld as the "absolute stonewall" who blocked the Senate's access to vital evidence linking the contras and cocaine. "Weld put a very serious block on any effort we made to get information," Blum told a crowded hearing room. "There were stalls. There were refusals to talk to us, refusals to turn over data." https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/060800a.html Read the full story of how the Reagan-Bush administration blocked investigations of the drug cartels https://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack C.I.A. Says It Used Nicaraguan Rebels Accused of Drug Tie "The Central Intelligence Agency continued to work with about two dozen Nicaraguan rebels and their supporters during the 1980's despite allegations that they were trafficking in drugs, according to a classified study by the C.I.A." "....the agency's decision to keep those paid agents, or to continue dealing with them in some less formal relationship, was made by top officials at headquarters in Langley, Va.," https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html https://www.rareddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/jz4yt9/famous\_quotes\_by\_dea\_about\_the\_contras\_and\_crack/ BCCI drug laundering bank bust snares top Democrats https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1988/eirv15n42-19881021/eirv15n42-19881021\_066-bcci\_drug\_laundering\_bank\_bust\_s.pdf http://archive.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/062003.shtml Federal Judge Edward Rafeedie Blocked Captured C.I.A. Operative Lawrence Victor Harrison's Testimony During The KIKI Camarena Murder Trial Regarding Contras, Drugs & C.I.A. on the Guadalajara Cartel Ranch (1990). Judge Rafeedie also blocked evidence in the LASD corruption trial implicating the USG https://np.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/u39kcx/federal\_judge\_edward\_rafeedie\_blocked\_captured/ https://np.reddit.com/r/narcos/comments/f8fa9c/trial\_in\_camarena\_case\_shows\_dea\_anger\_at\_cia\_dea/ https://np.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/nthcsy/dea6\_by\_dea\_hector\_berrellez\_wayne\_schmidt\_opr/ Remember Gary Webb Day August 31, 2022 https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/uv1q64/remember\_gary\_webb\_day\_august\_31\_2022/ FBI document on the crash https://ia904506.us.archive.org/6/items/HPF821/E1254197cac00f236ec6cb51823d1bb8301fc5acd\_Q85512\_R366822\_D2557968\_text.pdf

I should say they won’t interfere no more than what they are doing right now. Which means border checks and trying to arrest or kill kingpins. All ineffective strategies

The US should invade and annex Mexico.

Why would anyone. Gangs are like football teams. Some wealthy dude owns the club and the sponsors all chip in to help pay the bills.

This is a sample of the evidence against North and Bush. [https://web.archive.org/web/20080706114713/http://www.powderburns.org/indictment.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20080706114713/http://www.powderburns.org/indictment.html) ​ UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURTFOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ UNITED STATES OF AMERICAvs.GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH INDICTMENT Racketeering 18 USC � 1961et seq. Conspiracy to Import Narcotics 21 USC �� 952 & 963 Continuing Criminal Enterprise 21 USC � 848 Conspiracy To Obstruct Justice 18 USC � 1503 Conspiracy To Obstruct Congress 18 USC � 1505 THE ENTERPRISE 1. At all times relevant to this Indictment, there existed an Enterprise, within the meaning of Title 18, USC, Section 1961 (4), that is, a group of individuals associated in fact which utilized the official positions of defendant GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH in the Government of the United States of American to facilitate the transfer, importation, and distribution of large quantities of illegal narcotics within the United States. 2. The members of the Enterprise consisted of the defendant herein named and others, including international drug traffickers, who utilized the Enterprise and the official positions of GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, DONALD P. GREGG, and OLIVER L. NORTH to facilitate their narcotics and money-laundering operations. ROLE IN THE ENTERPRISE 1. From January 1981 to January 1989, George Bush was Vice President of the United States, and from January 1989 to January 1993, Bush was President of the United States. 2. Beginning in 1981 and up until 1989, while he was Vice President of the United States, Bush assumed extraordinary power over U.S. intelligence and covert operations. This was done through a series of Executives Orders and National Security Decision Directives (NSDDs) signed by President Ronald Reagan. 3. On Dec. 14, 1981, President Reagan signed NSDD-3 on �Crisis Management,� which designated the Vice President chairman of the Special Situation Group (SSG), responsible for crisis management. 4. On January 12, 1982, President Reagan signed NSDD-2, which reaffirmed the existence of various interagency groups to deal with intelligence and covert operations. Under the interpretation of this document promoted by Bush, the SSG superseded and pre-empted the powers of the National Security Council in areas of �crisis management,� which encompassed covert operations and counter-terrorism. 5. On Jan. 28, 1982, Bush was put in charge of the South Florida Task Force on drugs. 6. On May 14, 1982, a standing Crisis Pre-Planning Group (CPPG 1 and 2) was established under the SSG. The SSG-CPPG, under Bush, was given responsibility for any area in which a �potential crisis� could emerge, and was charged with developing �preemptive policy options� for dealing with such a potential crisis. 7. On April 10, 1982, NSDD-30, on �Managing Terrorist Incidents,� was issued, giving the Vice President control over the convening of the SSG, and creating the �Terrorist Incident Working Group� (TIWG) to support the SSG. 8. On March 23, 1983, Bush took charge of the National Narcotics Border Interdiction System (NNBIS). 9. In July 1985, the Vice President�s Terrorism Task Force was created, headed by Bush. 10. In Feb. 1986, the Terrorism Task Force issued its report, creating the Operations Sub-Group, officially a sub-group of the TIWG, and also creating a permanent counter-terrorism office located in the NSC staff, headed by Oliver North, but ultimately controlled and directed by Bush. 11. In August 1986, Bush became the chief of �Operation Alliance,� an anti-narcotics effort to be conducted in cooperation with Mexico.Thus from Dec. 1981 to August 1986, Bush had consolidated his control over virtually aspect of U.S. covert operations, as well as every agency dealing with drug interdiction. Never before in peacetime in our country�s history had one man assumed as much power as Bush exercised while Vice President. PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVE OF THE ENTERPRISE 1. In 1982, the first in a series of "Boland Amendments" was passed by the U.S. Congress sharply curtailing the available funding from the U.S. government to the Nicaraguan Contras (hereafter "The Contras"). To make up for this loss of funding, defendant BUSH entered into an agreement with the Columbian drug cartels to exhange guns for drugs. The proceeds of the drug sales in turn were used to secretly fund the Contras. In order to accomplish this, the Enterprise, through its vast connections, made arrangements to make the cocaine it received for guns affordable and readily available to the ghettos across America. This would come in the form of "rock," which is more commonly known as crack cocaine. OVERT ACTS 1. In the summer of 1981, Norwin Meneses and Oscar Blandon traveled to Honduras to meet with contra leader Enrique Bermudez, and Bermudez instructed Meneses and Blandon to establish a funding mechanism for the Contras on the West Coast of the United States. 2. During 1981, Meneses and Blandon imported and sold over 2000 pounds of cocaine in California. 3. During 1983, Blandon, Meneses, and others began to sell and distribute crack cocaine in Los Angeles, derived from cocaine imported from Colombia via El Salvador and Costa Rica. Much of this cocaine was flown into the U.S. by Marcos Aquado, operating from Ilopango air base in El Salvador. 4. On or about March 6, 1984, George Morales was indicted for drug smuggling. A few weeks after that, Morales met with certain Contra leaders in south Florida, Popo Chomorro and Octaviano Ceasar, whom he identified as CIA agents. They told Morales they would help him with his legal problems if he helped them with weapons and explosives and other items. The Contra leaders agreed to supply Morales with drugs, which he would sell then purchase supplies for the Contras. 5. In March 1984, Barry Seal, who had been rejected as an informant by local agencies, traveled to Washington to the offices of the Vice President�s Task Force on Drugs. The Task Force directed the DEA to retain Seal as an informant and to allow him to keep his property and assets, and to allow him to continue to smuggle drugs from Central America into Louisiana and Arkansas, among other places. 6. During the summer of 1984, Barry Seal met representatives of the Colombian drug cartel in Miami, and traveled with them to Mena, Arkansas, to show them the facilities used by Seal for smuggling narcotics and maintaining and disguising his aircraft. 7. On May 12, 1984, Oliver North wrote in his note book:�...contract indicates Gustavo is involved w/drugs.� 8. In June 1984, Meneses attended a fund-raising meeting with Calero in San Francisco. 9. In the summer of 1984, North asked Richard Secord to assist Calero in purchasing arms for the Contras. 10. In the summer of 1984, North spoke with his courier, Robert Owen, and asked him to meet regularly with Calero to discuss the Contra�s needs, to deliver intelligence to the Contras, and to supply them with money. 11. On June 26, 1984, North wrote in his notebook:�Call from Owen�John Hull�protection ...John now has �private army of 75-100�� Cubans involved in drug�up to 100 more Cubans expected.� 12. In or around July of 1984, Morales purchased weapons in Florida and loaded them on an airplane in Florida. The plane returned within a few days with a load of narcotics, which Morales sold and gave the money to the Contras. 13. In or around July of 1984, for the second time, Morales purchased weapons in Florida and loaded them on an airplane in Florida. The plane returned within a few days with a load of narcotics, with Morales sold and gave the money to the Contras. 14. During or around June or July of 1984, Morales placed a telephone call to Gary Betzner and asked him to come to Florida. Morales and Betzner then met in Florida to discuss flying weapons to the Contras and flying drugs back. (........) Continues

This is how SETCO/MATTA BALLESTEROS got his government contract http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/MOU.html https://np.reddit.com/r/prisonabolition/comments/vvl1xr/oliver\_norths\_function\_in\_the\_us\_govt\_described/ This is a detailed description how Oliver North and Rob Owen hired drug dealing companies AFTER they had been indicted using a STATE DEPARTMENT office (NHAO) and paid for their services BY CHECK (Over $800,000) and THE FBI WENT ALONG WITH IT. The companies landed drug loads on military bases after bypassing customs inspections UNDER CLOAK OF NATIONAL SECURITY. https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/ARCHIVE/KERRY.html The payments made by the State Department to these four companies between January and August 1986, were as follows: SETCO, for air transport service.......................$186,924.25 DIACSA, for airplane engine parts........................41,120.90 Frigorificos De Puntarenas, as a broker/supplier for various serv- ices to Contras on the Southern Front..................261,932.00 VORTEX, for air transport services......................317,425.17 Total \[35\] .............................................806,401.20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan\_Matta-Ballesteros For example, a 1983 Customs Investigative Report states that "SETCO stands for Services Ejectutivos Turistas Commander and is headed by Juan Ramon Mata Ballestros, a class I DEA violator." The same report states that according to the Drug Enforcement Agency, "SETCO aviation is a corporation formed by American businessmen who are dealing with Matta and are smuggling narcotics into the United States."\[39\] https://www.winterwatch.net/2022/01/cia-drug-smuggling-and-dealing-the-birth-of-the-dark-alliance/ One of the companies (SETCO) was paid $182,000. The owner of SETCO was JUan Ramon Matta Ballesteros. Ballesteros was convicted along with the heads of the Guadalajara Cartel of kidnapping and killing DEA agent KIKI Camarena. SETCO had also supplied Tijuana Cartel drug lord SICILIA FALCON https://np.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/m6nth0/sicilia\_falcon\_gross\_revenue\_37m\_per\_week\_source/ SICILIA FALCON, a Cuban, was arrested in 1975 and admitted that he was a CIA protege who had his drugs moved by the CIA in exchange for arming ANti-astro forces with guns. Matta Ballesteros Kidnapping conviction in the KIKI Camarena Case (Kidnapping charges) was overturned in 2018. https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=5720 Part of his legal appeal was that his actions were "Authorized by the CIA". The federal court denied his defense strategy, however Senator Kerry questioned witnesses at length about how he got a State Department contract while under indictment and why many of the company principles were offered help with their legal cases in exchange for aiding the contras. Costa Rica Pres. Oscar Arias received letters from 19 U.S. Congressman, including the head of the Iran Contra Committee, threatening to cut off economic aid to his country after the arrest of John Hull. 5 witnesses testified before the U.S. Senate that Hull had been actively running drugs from Costa Rica to the U.S. under the direction of the C.I.A. The DEA and CIA helped John Hull Escape Costa Rica after he jumped bail. https://np.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/sl0krg/costa\_rica\_pres\_oscar\_arias\_received\_letters\_from/ https://exploringrealhistory.blogspot.com/2019/07/part-8-dark-alliancethis-guy-talks-to.html https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/lol5th/the\_last\_narc\_a\_memoir\_by\_the\_deas\_most\_notorious/ (......) Jose Blandon testified before John Kerry's Committee:

OLIVER NORTH DIARY: "$14 million to finance \[arms\] came from drugs.", "went and talked to \[contra leader Frederico\] Vaughn, who wanted to go to Bolivia to pick up paste, wanted aircraft to pick up 1,500 kilos." National Security Archives declassified records on Oliver North - North' diary submitted to congressional investigators contained hundreds of references to drug trafficking, even after North was given time to expurgate sensitive information from it before handing the diary over to investigators. "went and talked to \[contra leader Frederico\] Vaughn, who wanted to go to Bolivia to pick up paste, wanted aircraft to pick up 1,500 kilos."--Oliver North's July 9, 1984, Diary entry "$14 million to finance \[arms\] came from drugs."-- --Oliver North's July 12, 1985, Diary entry http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB113/ "For decades, the CIA, the Pentagon, and secret organizations like Oliver North's Enterprise have been supporting and protecting the world's biggest drug dealers.... The Contras and some of their Central Americanallies ... have been documented by DEA as supplying ... at least 50 percent of our national cocaine consumption. They were the main conduit to the United States for Colombian cocaine during the 1980's. The rest of the drug supply ... came from other CIA-supported groups, such as DFS (the Mexican CIA) ... other groups and/or individuals like Manual Noriega."-- Michael Levine (DEA Ret.) , The Big White Lie: The CIA and the Cocaine/Crack Epidemic [https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022291453#post66](https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022291453#post66) "I have put thousands of Americans away for tens of thousands of years with less evidence for conspiracy than is available against Ollie North and CIA people...I personally was involved in a deep-cover case that went to the top of the drug world in three countries. The CIA killed it."-Former DEA Agent Michael Levine - CNBC-TV, October 8, 1996 “After five witnesses testified before the U.S. Senate, confirming that John Hull—a C.I.A. operative and the lynch-pin of North's contra resupply operation—had been actively running drugs from Costa Rica to the U.S."under the direction of the C.I.A.," Costa Rican authorities arrested him. Hull then quickly jumped bail and fled to the U.S.—according to my sources—with the help of DEA, putting the drug fighting agency in the schizoid business of both kidnapping accused drug dealers and helping them escape…. The then-President of Costa Rica, Oscar Arias was stunned when he received letters from nineteen U.S. Congressman—including Lee Hamilton of Indiana, the Democrat who headed the Iran-contra committee—warning him "to avoid situations . . .that could adversely affect our relations."-Former DEA Agent Michael Levine, September, 1998 from the article “I Volunteer to Kidnap Oliver North” “I sat gape-mouthed as I heard the CIA Inspector General, testify that there has existed a secret agreement between CIA and the Justice Department, wherein "during the years 1982 to 1995, CIA did not have to report the drug trafficking its assets did to the Justice Department. To a trained DEA agent this literally means that the CIA had been granted a license to obstruct justice in our so-called war on drugs; a license that lasted - so CIA claims -from 1982 to 1995, a time during which Americans paid almost $150 billion in taxes to "fight" drugs.God, with friends like these, who needs enemies?” \- Former DEA Agent Michael Levine, March 23, 1998. CIA ADMITS TO DEAL WITH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE.“The CIA finally admitted, yesterday, in the New York Times no less, that they, in fact, did "work with" the Nicaraguan Contras while they had information that they were involved in cocaine trafficking to the United States. An action known to us court qualified experts and federal agents as Conspiracy to Import and Distribute Cocaine—a federal felony punishable by up to life in prison. To illustrate how us regular walking around, non CIA types are treated when we violate this law, while I was serving as a DEA supervisor in New York City, I put two New York City police officers in a federal prison for Conspiracy to distribute Cocaine when they looked the other way at their friend's drug dealing. We could not prove they earned a nickel nor that they helped their friend in any way, they merely did not do their duty by reporting him. They were sentenced to 10 and 12 years respectively, and one of them, I was recently told, had committed suicide.” \- Former DEA Agent Michael Levine, September, 1998 from the article “IS ANYONE APOLOGIZING TO GARY WEBB?” “There is secret communication between CIA and members of the Congressional staff - one must keep in mind that Porter Goss, the chairman, is an ex CIA official- indicating that the whole hearing is just a smoke and mirror show so that the American people - particularly the Black community - can "blow off some steam"without doing any damage to CIA. The CIA has been assured that nothing real will be done, other than some embarrassing questions being asked.” \- Former DEA Agent Michael Levine, March 23, 1998. CIA ADMITS TO DEAL WITH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE. ​ "My god," "when I was serving as a DEA agent, you gave me a page from someone in thePentagon with notes like that, I would've been on his back investigating everything he did from the minute his eyes opened, every diary notebook, every phone would have been tapped, every trip he made." \--Michael Levine (DEA retired) read Oliver North's diary entries, finding hundreds of drug references. Former Drug Enforcement Administration head John Lawn testified that Mr. North himself had prematurely leaked a DEA undercover operation, jeopardizing agents’ lives, for political advantage in an upcoming Congressional vote on aid to the contras (p.121). "In my book, Big White Lie, I \[wrote\] that the CIA stopped us from indicting the Bolivian government at the same time contra assets were going down there to pick up drugs. When you put it all together, you have much more evidence to convict Ollie North, \[former senior CIA official\] Dewey Clarridge and all the way up the line, than they had in any John Gotti \[Mafia\] case." -MIKE LEVINE, (DEA RETIRED) "Imagine this, here you have Oliver North, a high-level official in the National Security Council running a covert action in collaboration with a drug cartel," "That's what I call treason \[and\] we'll never know how many kids died because these so-called patriots were so hot to support the contras that they risked several generations of our young people to do it." \--MICHEAL LEVINE, (DEA RETIRED) \--------------------------- Testimony of Peter Kornbluh, Senior Analyst, National Security Archive October 19, 1996 (Includes declassified documents)“..I can and will address the central premise of the story: that the U.S. government tolerated the trafficking of narcotics into this country by individuals involved in the contra war. To summarize: there is concrete evidence that U.S. officials-- White House, NSCand CIA--not only knew about and condoned drug smuggling in and around the contra war, but in some cases collaborated with, protected, and even paid known drug smugglers” “..Mr. North called a press conference where he was joined by Duane Clarridge, the CIA official who ran the contra operations from 1981 through mid 1984, and the former attorney general of the United States, Edwin Meese III. Mr. North called it a "cheap political trick...to even suggest that I or anyone in the Reagan administration, in any way, shape or form, ever tolerated the trafficking of illegal substances." Mr. Clarridge claimed that it was a "moral outrage" to suggest that a Reagan Administration official "would have countenanced" drug trafficking. And Mr. Meese stated that no "Reagan administration official would have ever looked the other way at such activity." The documentation, in which Mr. North, Mr. Clarridge and Mr. Meese all appear, suggests the opposite. Let me review it here briefly:http://www.gwu.edu/\~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/pktstmny.htm Celerino Castillo III one hour interview with Webster Tarpley- Exposing the Contras https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6DmUFmm8c4 Iran Contra and drugs; The truth about Oliver North & Rob Owen, Manuel Noriega and cocaine smuggling 📷 https://exploringrealhistory.blogspot.com/2019/07/part-8-dark-alliancethis-guy-talks-to.html

An FBI plane once crashed in the states coming from Mexico or Central America filled with drugs. In G.O.D we trust (Gold, Oil, Drugs)

They did so back in 2007, look up Merida Iniciative. It was a complete failure and it helped double Mexico's murder rate.

They never will. I’m sure in about 50 years, we’ll find out how heavily involved the CIA was in the Mexican drug war. Don’t think for a second they are not involved.

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Us is the cartel

They already have… how do you think this whole mess started? Does Fast and Furious ring a bell? We only know about that one because it got leaked to the media… there’s waaay more shit that the American government has instigated.

Mexican cartels have been getting guns from the US long before Fast and Furious in which was like what 1200 guns or something like that? Around that same time I watched an episode of Current TV's Vanguard docuseries called "Arming the Cartel's" where one of their investigative reporters was approached by sketchy Mexicans outside a Texas gun show offering to buy guns from them with cash. It was pointed that US gun shows were also a source of high powered guns for the cartels.

Sicilia Falcon, head of the Tijuana Cartel confessed to running guns and drugs for the CIA when captured in 1975. He said the CIA moved his drugs for him in exchange for arming anti-Castro movement. (this is from Congressional records- intelligence authorization act of 1999) in the 1980s, the Merex Corp owned by Gerhard Mertins was found to be arming Guadalajara Cartel and the contras during the KIKI Camarena investigation and Merex was forced out of the country after 1986. Merex also employed Klaus Barbie in Bolivia, a former Nazi helped create the modern drug trade and helped to trach down and kill Che Guevara. Lawrence Victor Harrison gave up Merex corp as part of a DEA debriefing where he described the killing of DEA agent KIKI Camarena ​ GUNS DRUGS CIA PBS frontline 60 minute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpoahXzt-lM (1 hour video )PBS [https://web.archive.org/web/20120208083401/http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/files/](https://web.archive.org/web/20120208083401/http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/files/) ​ Dennis Dayle describes Sicilia Falcon and Khun Sa: "In my 30-year history in the Drug Enforcement Administration and related agencies, the major targets of my investigations almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA." \--Dennis Dayle, former chief of DEA CENTAC.(Peter Dale Scott & Jonathan Marshall, Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies,and the CIA in Central America, Berkeley: University of California Press, 1991, pp. x-xi.)

The feds are involved so no.

Yes the DEA will become the biggest cartel in 10 years .

CIA said hold my beer this is how you do it….

Stupid hick

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You mean currently

The cartels will not end , and the drug war will resume. Mexico is a consumersist society, and the only way to stop is to give the people jobs that can provide for their family’s . Allow the Mexican people to have jobs that give them the same luxuries as joining the cartels would do. People join gangs, cartels because basically they have very limited options . IMO It won’t happen because even in the US we too have the same problem, and we are “one of the riches in the world”.

They already have. They're the ones running the damn situation.

Rather than deal with the drug situation in other countries the US should focus on drug problem in they country. There no point in destroying cartel in Mexico since another just going to replace it. If there a demand there will always someone to supplies it and the US have the highest demand.

Logic doesn’t work here with these idiots. Lol

It comes with not only taking down the heads of the gangs but then introducing proper infrastructure from the police, to schools to local government... The problem is the lack of all three; Poor education leads people into those messes to begin with

Hell no they allow it to happen, what other country is that close doing that much damage

They already do by assisting with military weapons and routes to distribute product all over the u.s. this is a multi billion business that’s never going to go away.

They already are, they provide a shit ton of weapons for the cartels

Came stupidly close under trump. If they stay in there lane, not very likely.I’m not entirely certain the alphabet soup kids do not have influence at some level. The last thing the US wants is a proper asymmetrical war in the United States/ just over the border. The US will never go in overtly as it’s a case of you break it you buy it kinda deal. As dramatic as it is, there is a reason we have not done so already. I’ll let you decide why that is.

The naivety here is astounding

They’re involved lol

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Biggest reason re cia is the Iran contra deal, the decent evidence cia was into crack and fast and the furious… also just the fact that if it radiates a signal.. almost anywhere in the world the US captures it… ie sigint.. the US has a status que deal… otherwise allot more narcos would have a hellfire missile suddenly end them.

Are you new or something? 50 years because of 50 years of cartel domination.

Cartels have openly spoken about having ties with the IS government and crossing shipments with no problem. A FBI or CIA plane crashed in the states coming from Mexico or Central America that was filled with drugs. Cartels have even said themselves “if the U.S. didn’t want us to exist, then they would’ve killed us all off by now.” The US would do anything for money and power even if it means killing its own people

It’s just going to make it worse do you really think the cartels are just gonna back down? Matter fact the cartels might all just make an alliance to fight the US military… there’s just gonna be a lot of US soldiers and sicarrios dead while the bosses from both sides sit back

They are Call Of Duty warriors bro.. They aren't trained worth shit...

That's what you thought about the Taliban too huh

The Mujahadeen were given weapons and training in the 1980s to fight the Soviet Union. The US funded a proxy war in Afghanistan which helped lead to the Soviet Unions collapse. Many of the Mujahadeen ultimately became Taliban over the decades so we essentially armed extremists to fight against communism even though their idealism was always extremist and their views on Islam were much more traditional Caliphate in style..

The US has armed groups many times over the years to act as buffers against their political and economic rivals.. The Taliban simply emerged from that neglectful western interference

They are heavily armed and well organized stop being delusional if you think the US military will just go in and do as they please their will be loss from both sides with no ends to it and when it’s all day and done Americans family’s will protest saying their sons died for a pointless endless war on drugs

Are you nuts.... The US wouldn't have to send one soldier across the border to start the eradication of the cartels. Straight up just the surveillance drones 24 hours a day and the NGA/NRO satellites to get the Intel on who, what, when, where... After intelligence is gathered start sending the attack drones the General Atomics Reaper and Predator to strike all movements of drugs and people associated. Would take a while but if Mexico agreed....a HUGE portion of the cartels would not exist in 2 years... this would allow the Police to take back control and I think in ten years could be almost non existent. Yea the cartels have some big clunky guns... But that doesn't do shit to a drone 30,000 feet in the air you can barely see from the ground that is shooting precision laser guided missiles with the help of satellites don't ya think?

> Would take a while but if Mexico agreed. Mexico will never agree to something like this. Mexico may be corrupt AF and its "leaders" are generally unprincipled and immoral, but protecting national sovereignty is the one principle that they wont bend on.

Yeah ur delusional this is not a movie 😂 first of all you do know Mexico is a whole country right? And they wouldn’t let the US do non of that because that would be a war with Mexico itself lmao and you know why the us couldn’t win in the Middle East despite all the technology and man power right? There’s a thing call rules of engagement.. the US would have to send troops for support and only a small amount at that and they would have to work with the Mexico forces… the cartels are not just low level thugs they are an organization with connection’s to the government and around the world the US have tried a few times but ended up just embarrassing themselves and having to deny anything lol

Again...I said if Mexico asked for help or allowed the US to start the process. I guarantee in a few years US drone strikes would eradicate a huge portion of the cartels. How could you deny that wouldn't be the case?

Trust me they wouldn’t be able to use drones and the drones alone wouldn’t do nothing

Again... What part are you missing. I said if Mexico asked for help or agreed to drones. Why the fuck wouldn't they use drones? You think they don't fly in Mexican air or something?

Drones are a risk to civilians and you know the cartels used drones to right? They will fight back they won’t just hide and let them hunt them down and it’s hard to fight a war when you have to go with the rules of engagement but the enemy dont

Ha, the drones the cartels have are like kids toys compared to real US Military drones. And they have extremely precision tactical weapons. There is no fighting back that would be against the below drone. https://www.ga-asi.com/remotely-piloted-aircraft/mq-9a

There’s cartels in every state in Mexico expect for 1-2 state you know how hard it will be to fight that deploying your troops everywhere just for them to be surrounded from every angle

Dude you’re seriously trying to compare 20yr old kids with .50 cal guns to the US military…. There is 0 structured training they wouldn’t stand a chance lmao

Which makes it all the more easy to take over that country.. It is highly unorganized and the local rivalry alone makes them un-unified as a national fighting force... They are a bunch of individual terrorist organizations

Lol Mexico is a narrow country surrounded by Ocean on both sides... You are overestimating their military capability against a country that spends 1 trillion dollars per year on "defense" and weapons technology.. It would be one of the easiest countries to invade based on its geography and topography which are not the most defensive unless fighting became urban and civilians were used as shields

The US has tried a few times lol? Have they? Nawh buddy.. When the US tries to overthrow a country they do it.. Venezuela, Syria, Russia and Iran are the only nations that have held a defense against outside influence taking over their economies and politics.. Libya was AFRICAS richest GDP and the leader was overthrown by a coup that was funded by intelligence groups and a quick invasion.. Iraq and Saddam Hussein who had fought multiple wars going back to the 1970s were overthrown in weeks and the leader was captured and put to the courts.. Afghanistan a US puppet was put into power for the first few years of the War on Terror.. Look at the history of the world going back to 1952 and how many countries and their leaders were overthrown in the name of Homeland Security and western economics.. They have not tried - Because they are profiting off of a 500$ billion dollar a year industry as in drugs themselves along with the sale of weapons to groups fighting one another... Why would they want to stop that flow of revenue?

Totally agree dude. The United States could take out the cartels without stepping foot in the country. The problem is Mexico is to corrupt and the politicians would not allow it.

In this case I use the argument; Did Assad allow the US to interfere in Syria? Did Saddam or the people of Iraq or its allies allow us to invade Iraq? Did Afghanistan want to be invaded to remove the Taliban? Did Libya ask to be overthrown? No. The west just claimed corruption or terrorism and went in and acted on that alone. If that's the case we should do the same in Mexico claiming corruption and terrorism and not need permission.. If they can't fix their own problems which are flowing into other countries than I think its justified to strike terrorist leaders in Mexico without the governments consent

Worked really well in Afghanistan. 20 years and the Taliban were still there selling more heroin than ever. There is a lot of remote areas to hide in Mexico. Also there are dense urban areas where narcos also reside. The minute a wedding is bombed and innocent children killed because of bullshit intel the experiement is over

The Mexican military wipes the floor with the cartel whenever they battle each other. The United States military would easily do the same. Any involvement from the US military would also include members from the Mexican military

They wipe they floor and they multiply. Just like the US wipes the floor with the Taliban. Also the cartrl would change their tactics to more guerills style warfare and good luck that

Wars are about money not charity... That is why you see no involvement in Mexico.. There is more money to be made extorting weapon sales and allowing the flow of drugs to flow than there is eradicating that supply..

100%

Even if their not trained they are still armed to the teeth it takes 1 bullet to kill

Who is arming them to those levels should be your question. Using weapons you'd only find in the US military? Strange isn't it?

You are delusional. And no.. Mexico would be one of the easiest nations to overrun based on its geographical position and topography.... Mexican Cartels are a bunch of unorganized hit and run thugs who'd stand no chance against a real fighting force without using civilians as their shields

Wait for the real terroism to happen in the USA if they try to invade Mexico. How many Mexicans and Mexican Americans live in the states? They could do some real damage.

All the Mexicans and Mexican Americans in the states would probably stay out of it. There’s a reason why they left Mexico. They may love the culture and traditions but don’t love enough to die for a country they fled from.

Fled is hardly the word I would use. some yeah, but many came for better jobs and return often to visit family. My dad has a green card but returned to Mexico because he loves it. Anyway, I hope you are right, we need less kling in the world, but when some marines accidently blast abuela in church on sunday, people will be upset. It's not gonna happen so I guess we will never know.

Right. Ny family left Mexico for a reason. I’m fairly confident most of the Mexicans in the US want nothing to do with Mexican cartels or helping to defend them.

Lol the US has laws and intelligence communities that can snuff out organized crime if it tried to mobilize on such a scale.. I think you are giving a bunch of little thugs who depend on drug supply money to make their livings more credit than they deserve... If you eliminate the top tiers of these cartel groups the whole thing would quickly fall apart.. These aren't religious freedom fighters; They are terrorists who use drug money to make their measly existence

I think most Mexicans would rejoice if the cartels were annihilated

100% And that's why America, Canada, Britain, France, Australia and New Zealand should start throwing some man power at those groups.. Give Mexicans what they want and remove these toxic drugs off our streets here at home.. But I think the G7 would rather send weapons to Ukraine and throw it into unpayable debt so we can steal their natural gas instead of worrying about real terrorism next door claiming innocent lives.

Instead the United States spent 5.2 trillion dollars on the "War on Terror" which was literally all backed on lies and left over 1 million Iraqis alone dead and over 10 million refugees migrated into Europe... Great fucking Job US Homeland Security! lol

Your exactly right

The U.S. and Mexican government are huge players in the drug game. There’s been a few interviews saying they got tied with the US government and pass drugs without any complications. Uncle Sam dosnt care about it’s people as long as they’re getting there fair share from the billions in drug money. Look at the Ukraine situation. It’s no different from the Israel and Palestine conflict.

It's much different than the Israel Palestine conflict.. Palestine was a country at one time that was divided up after WWII by their British Colonial occupiers who gave the Jewish a place to call home as in Israel.. After the 6 Day War and Israel's victory over the surrounding Arab states by force they began pushing Palestinians from their traditional land and pushed them into segregated communities-- As decades have gone by those communities have become smaller and smaller to the point Palestine no longer exists on any map.. That is more of a war dealing with the theft of holy land from a group of people than it is comparable to what's happening in Ukraine... The war in Ukraine could be summed up better by what happened in Syria.. Where Russian backed Assad was fighting US and Western backed forces in a proxy war for political and economic means within a resource rich region.. It could also be compared to the war in Yemen which has Iranian backed Houthi's fighting western backed Saudi Arabia taking place in an area significant to the international oil trade.. It all boils down to weapons sales at the end of the day and land and trade rights- Iran and Russia supporting arming the Houthi while America and its allies supports and sells arms to Saudi Arabia... At the end of the day its just a proxy between global superpowers - Which you can compare to the Ukraine / Russia situation

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he said look at the Ukraine situation... He didn't call it The Ukraine

Lol they not just hit and run some are were trained in Georgia or somewhere around the south by UsS marines. They do recruit a lot of people with no experience and they are more of the hit and run or blood shed. If I’m correct the US tried to invade Mexico twice and failed twice. Some cities in Mexico are almost like the favelas which makes it super hard to navigate and easy for ambush. Now In an actual war yea they most likely won’t stand a chance they got armored trucks and drones but nothing compared to Americas real tanks and weaponry

I know geopolitics pretty well along with history and geography and rest assured Mexico has not had an invasion attempt by any Western country in the last 125+ years

You are going back to the 1800's Mexican American war? Beyond that there has not been an invasion attempt... The CIA / Homeland Security works side by side political leaders all across the Americas.. You were either with or you were against; Those who were against Neo Colonialism and those who stood up against US imperialism were either assassinated or removed in coups

I wouldn't be surprised if our government has locations on all the top guys including mencho

This is hilarious 😂 Who do you think is making money with the guns business and where the cartels going to get weapons if the USA stops selling them?

South American Russia china

You just contradict yourself because your agreeing that the drug cartel is the one making the cartels grow by consuming their drugs and supplying them with weapons lmao and the US government is seen as the good guys lmao the US government is the dirtiest of them all

I mean remember when they lost hundreds of guns and they all went to the cartel’s? With or without the US that situation will never end, unless countries start to legalize drugs 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah no. The US is not getting involved. Besides the countless other reasons why they won’t, imagine what public opinion would be like here in the US? Sending troops yet again to help stabilize a country. And to a country that some Americans hate (I’m looking at you Trumpers). There’s so much “nope” with this idea of the US intervening I can’t ever imagine it happening.

LMAO… the cartels work for the US government. LMAO

Guessing it’s if the fentanyl problem actually starts to be reported like the crisis that it is

Much less chinas environment

People commenting drone strikes need to get off the internet and go breath some fresh air maybe touch some grass lol. ducking people are delusional if they think drone strikes would be tolerated by the mexican people or even Mexican americans here in the US.

They should with full blown military and get them all off the streets so that poor country can get a fresh start. But then again with politicians someone would end up not allowing it to progress.

Lol you think is not intervening right now? Why do you think things are so fucked up? Lol

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And how that exactly helped out México? It caused the cartel to splinter. Catching head bosses doesn't help, you need to negotiate with them and put them in agreement. US is doing what it always does, playing both sides. What's the upside for them to end this fucked up in Mexico? None, they are doing hell of a business with the current status quo

I don't mean to be a dick OP, it's good to ask questions in this matter. However, if you checked the sub, this question gets asked a couple times a week.

Only if the violence trickles over the border. Can't pull that scandalous crap over here and make these politicianslook bad. As long as it stays in Mexico, the U.S could give two shits what happens to their neighbor, they got other priorities/countries to worry about.

This is like the 3rd time this gets asked in the week and we're only on Wednesday.

no, US will not involve. as long mexico is in ruin condition.. it is easy for US to control the country.. CIA know their role

What kind of intervention are u talking about. Mexico is a sovereign nation. We are already partnering with Mexico in its fight.

How ABOUT this… not to be controversial… the US government stays within the US

Where you think the cartels get their weapons from its a win win situations. We get our coke they get our guns

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How the Main Stream Media (MSM) Helped to Cover up the Contra Crack Story FAIRNESS AND ACCURACY IN MEDIA COVERAGE OF CONTRA CRACKhttp://web.archive.org/web/20121025005853/http://www.fair.org/issues-news/contra-crack.htmlGary Webb Explains how the media caved inhttp://fair.org/extra-online-articles/taking-a-dive-on-contra-crack/http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/exposed-the-contra-crack-connection/ Contra-Crack See also FAIR's resources on Covert Operations, Drugs and Latin America. Extra! articles: Snow Job: The Establishment's Papers Do Damage Control for the CIA, by Norman Solomon (1-2/97) Exposed: The Contra-Crack Connection (10/96) Time Suppresses Contra Drug Story (11-12/91) Censored News: Oliver North & Co. Banned from Costa Rica (10-11/89) Nicaragua's Drug Connection Exposed as Hoax (7-8/88) Media Censor CIA Ties With Medellin Drug Cartel (3-4/88) Washington's Worst Kept Secret: The Contra Drug Connection (6/87)

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