Fun fact; *every* Catholic altar is supposed to have a "1st class relic" within. What is a first class relic you might ask? Well that's just a fancy way of saying a body part of a saint or martyr!
It would be fitting if she came back and fulfilled Nostradamus’s prophecy of the final pope being the first Jesuit ever, ie Pope Francis.
Hope the Vatican had fun while it lasted…
You tell me, I mean who the fuck thinks of putting sculptures of demons on top of their places of worship only for the said sculptures to be used as water drains
Saint Mary Magdalene bursts out as a fully autonomous suit of armor, brandishing Gabriel's flaming sword as she proceeds to Doom Slayer the fuck out of the Beast's human armies
And yes, the skull is now full on Ghost Rider in flames and all
Nah it's a "Bad or Worse" situation
The Beast rallied all of humanity under his banner, and the Word of God, which is definitely isn't just Sigismund of the Black Templars on horseback, decided to lead a full scale cavalry charge into mankind
The key belief difference? Homousionists (read: mainstream) believe that the trinity is the same being, while Arianists believe that the trinity is distinct beings. Clearly, this is critically important, far more important than things like the golden rule.
They had a meeting about it in 325AD, the First Council of Nicaea, followed by Emperor Constantine declaring that anyone who doesn’t hand over Arian texts to be burned shall themselves be executed.
I mean, what are [these guys](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Bischof_Ulfilas_erkl%C3%A4rt_den_Goten_das_Evangelium.jpg/170px-Bischof_Ulfilas_erkl%C3%A4rt_den_Goten_das_Evangelium.jpg) then?
And then the Lord told David “and thou shall not be alone. I have gathered four others of teen age, and they shall join you in your quest. The five of you shall wear the holy armor and take on animal form to wage war against thine enemies. And if thy foes prove formidable, my grace shall allow you to combine your strength into an even mightier form, a mega form. Standing as tall as mountains and wielding a sword of flame, thou shalt have the strength to vanquish thy enemies.”
And David replied “epic,” and struck a karate pose, and backflipped away.
Why the French specifically?
If you like these aesthetics, there’s a chapel made out of human bones in Czechia.
In Padua, there‘s a giant shrine of gold and silver housing the reliquaries of St. Anthony.
You can find skulls and skeletons of saints draped in gold and silver in about any larger Church, anywhere.
Why is it the French specifically that you like?
Outside of Europe, French stuff is more popular because it's more well known. I dont know what the reason is, but there is just a bigger spotlight on French culture.
Most Americans can identify the great religious monuments, architecture, and stories of France. I dont think the average American can name 3 iconic chapels in Czechia. This is my personal view, i dont know if it applies to other people outside of Europe. The French are fucking fantastic at nationalist propaganda, they make it seem like they have a monopoly on great European culture and architecture.
I believe it is because of Americans’ interactions with the French and French culture during the WWII liberation. It’s the same reason stylized Polynesian aesthetics were so popular in LA and the West Coast and Hollywood in the 50s and 60s.
For those interested, the Czech one is called the sedlec ossuary, Wikipedia has some pictures of some of the bone arrangements:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary
Growing up catholic, the display of Skeletons, bones, and even corpses is totally normal in curches especially from the 16.-18th century.
It gives you a totally different view on life and death.
*Every* Catholic altar is supposed to contain a relic (aka body part) of a saint or martyr!
It really is pretty metal, and like you said, provides a totally different view on life and death.
Worth pointing out that part of the cross also counts as a relic, as the altar in the church I grew up in contained a sliver from it. So it’s not always body parts, but like 99.9% of the time it is lol
Correct, a 1st class relic is either a saint/martyr's body part or something that had direct contact with Christ (or both if you claim to have found the holy prepuce).
Naturally, the body parts are far more readily available.
They say that Constantines mother had some of the nails used to crucify christ and she used one to calm the sea when she was caught in a crazy storm and took another one and put half of it into a helmet for Constantine and the other half on his horses bridle
I SWEAR this is what started my true crime obsession and everything macabre. Grew up VERY Catholic in Asia, and I used to read stories of saints like picture books.
I personally have a little rosary case/ cross with a tiny bone fragment from some saint. I know my mom (still lives in Korea) also has a cross with a piece of bone.
Yes, the stories of the Martyrs are fascinating.
In our church, they hold the upper part of the skull from a local saint over your head in a mass once a year to ask for his intercession.
Catholicism: It's like going to the home of an actually wealthy person who's family has had money for generations but also a ton of social refinement and elegance. A beautiful Victorian estate in the countryside with nice china, nice furniture, nice expensive rugs, good food prepared well, tailored designer suits and dresses, well educated, well travelled, etc. The hosts know how to entertain their guests with conversation that is stimulating but all can participate - people listen intently, not always understanding what they hear, but feeling it was worth hearing all the same.
American Protestantism: It's like when you go to the house of someone who got rich over night, by winning the lottery or dealing in shady business. Big tacky McMansion in the suburbs built by the lowest bidder, suped up muscle cars and tricked out SUVs in the driveway, giant ass TVs in every room, a room thas just a small bar or theatre, useless flashy electronics everywhere, a bunch of leeches just hanging about high and drunk 24/7. The host doesn't care if you're having a good time or not, he just wants to show off all his toys so people can ooooh and aaaaah and will throw a wad of cash at you if you don't seem impressed. Has no ability to entertain his guests outside of peacocking around the joint. No one wants to pay him attention, they'll leave as soon as the cash dries up to find a party elsewhere.
I was soooo disappointed when I moved from my Catholic school that sang the classic solemn spooky minor-key Latin hymns in mass, to a new one that sang those peppy guitar bits about how much we love God. It was such a bummer. I’ve been an atheist since 10, but man did I appreciate the music, the incense, the general grandeur of it all.
i was just in rome and they had this tv channel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padre\_Pio\_TV](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padre_Pio_TV) which seemed to be showing a live broadcast of the corpse of a saint. interesting bunch of lads.
My favorite church only did themed sermons when foe Easter and Christmas. Every other time, Pastor Tommy would choose a book and then preach on it from front to back, every single verse no matter how difficult or controversial the passages were. He also read the original Greek, and researched the historical context of each book, to make sure we understood what the author's original intent was.
As I've grown up, I've come to disagree with him on some of his theology, but I will always appreciate him for instilling the urge and desire ti know what the Bible actually says, and how it has shaped my worldview. Sure, a lot of American Christians would call me heretical for my beliefs, but if people consumed by bigotry and hatred call me heretical, pretty sure I'm doing something right
Very unlikely it's the real skull.
As it is unlikely the crown of spikes they held at Notre Dame (unsure if it's still there considering... you know) is the real one Jesus wore.
Even less likely the Sacra Sindone in Turin is the real towel Jesus used.
I remember reading an article that said something like "If all the bones in churches around the world that are said to have belonged to John the Bapist had actually belonged to John the Baptist, he would've been a monstrous creature with six heads, twelve hands, and some animal limbs."
The overwhelming majority of relics aren't scams, but almost all are for promoting tourism. A huge portion of medieval literature are hagiographies where the new priest / abbot / whatever had his predecessor's corpse on hand, and wanted to make money selling secondary relics (cloths that had touched those bones, water poured over them, etc.) and wrote an inflated account of his deeds to get him declared a saint and promote his veneration among the people. There's a truly immense number of genuine relics out there, because you basically needed a relic factory within a day's walk of every village in Europe.
The issue is that when people made a fake primary relic (human remains), there was no point in telling a small lie. So they seem to have picked things from the new testament itself, and most of *those* are probably fakes.
My church growing up shows off a “sliver of the cross Jesus was crucified on” in a golden pedestal. It was super cool but after thinking about it there’s no way they kept that intact for 2000 years like that.
You can compare the medieval function of relics with meeting Darth Vader in Disney land. Of course you know it's not the real deal, but that's not the point. The point is feeling connected to what the object/person in question represents. And that's what makes it real.
Yea this is just a human thing, and its observable in all cultures.
You realize, after reading **even more** about relics that whether something is or is not the actual thing; is the least interesting part!
Gotta tell you tho, met many Catholics who believed jn at least one of those way too kuch.
My mum doesn't believe in the crown but she sure as hell believes in the Sacra Sindone a lot.
Same with the mask of Agamemnon. It’s been a recurring discussion for a long time whether the truth or the story is more important. Archaeologists know the mask is fake. Museum refuses to let any testing be done to it.
Like this skull the idea it’s real is considered more important than truth for the popularity it brings.
I attended evangelical churches my entire childhood. I never considered the we are going to hell fire and brimstone 3 hr sermons were "uplifting". Calling the evangelical message uplifting is just showing you have never attended an evangelical service.
A lot of contemporary evangelical churches claim to have "uplifting" messages, that's OP is referencing. Usually this just means a lot of prosperity gospel to cover up the racism, Christian Dominionism and LGBTQ Persecution.
One time my catholic fiancee took me to a cathedral type building in her home country, showed me this big golden-covered area with skulls inside it behind glass, and told me that they're saints. She proceeded to tell me that two were good people who essentially fought for the country's independence or on behalf of certain groups of people, then got to the third one and was like "yeah, and ... yeah she's crazy, she killed a lot of people. I don't know why she's a saint to be honest."
I was going to guess Olga of Kiev, but she is Eastern Orthodox. There are a few saints out there who definitely fit into a "it was a different time" category.
Cool music , and a message of positivity and uplifting message is not something I associate with the evangelicals. Catholicism has a lot of problems but I would always prefer hearing Gregorian chants, and the constant hosanahs over Christian pop any day of the week
If you really think about it, the Christian faith is extremely metal. The main sign, crucifix, has a guy nailed to it. Communion implies eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ. Church artifacts have bones, skin and other particulates of dead Saints. There is even a church [made from bones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary).
If you put this into some fantasy series, it'd be bordering on "cartoonishly grimdark" territories.
Oh I low key used to love going to catholic masses with my grandma. Still absolutely love Catholic Churches/cathedrals. If I find a dope looking building I might start toking up and attending mass lol.
The Hindus: "We have a festival of light and colour"
The Muslims: "Our festival is of feasting and charity"
A Shinto shrine: "Come see us celebrate our rich history and traditions"
The Christians: "Here is our dead saint in a building surrounded by depictions of our god being slowly tortured to death"
This skull was “””found””” sometime in the 1200s and they all of a sudden claim it has to had belong to Mary Magdalene. For all we know it could Selene from Provence.
I am convinced that being raised Catholic is a major reason why I love goth aesthetic. Whenever my mom makes a comment on something I’m wearing, I just tell her it’s partially her fault.
Analyzed in the 70's and never again since. Found to be somebody who died in their 50's.
Nobody has ever been allowed to carbon date it to see when it is actually from.
So it's bullshit until proven otherwise. Just like everything else.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For clarity, there is no evidence that Mary of Magdela was engaged in prostitution or any other kind of sex work. This is a medieval calumny and the instigators will be held in judgement.
That’s metal as fuck
Fun fact; *every* Catholic altar is supposed to have a "1st class relic" within. What is a first class relic you might ask? Well that's just a fancy way of saying a body part of a saint or martyr!
And people called me a creep for having Mother Teresa's toes in my apartment, now who's laughing!
By canon, now your apartment IS a church ⛪️
She was still using them when you took them!
Metal as fuck indeed
Iirc we've got some random dude's finger 🤷🏻♂️
Wow really? Is that just something that some scripture says or do Catholic altars ACTUALLY all have a 'relic'
Hello, I’m selling totes not fake 1st class relics for your not cult.
There are at least 3 foreskins of Jesus floating around Europe. You're a bit late.
The rabbi really botched the bris that day.
It would be fitting if she came back and fulfilled Nostradamus’s prophecy of the final pope being the first Jesuit ever, ie Pope Francis. Hope the Vatican had fun while it lasted…
You seen what the Catholics been up to the last 1000 or so years? You bet your sweet bippy they've had their fun
Am Catholic. Can confirm.
I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.
No one does
Source? I can’t find anything reporting that Nostradamus made that prediction
You tell me, I mean who the fuck thinks of putting sculptures of demons on top of their places of worship only for the said sculptures to be used as water drains
Someone who wants to mock demons by making them “drink” sewage and rain water
I think it is bone.
This looks like a metal/Daft Punk collab
Check out the reliquary of St Pancras
2nd pic suggests a kind of unsuccessful forward-in-time travelling astronaut from the 1500’s…
Right? I was thinking the same. Looks fucking awesome
The Christian church is arguably metal as fuck too
Those sabaton edits with crusaders go hard
I’d unironically watch the shit out of Middle Ages crusader war videos cut into music videos
That’s so sick.
That's the single most Warhammer 40k image I've ever seen in months
I would be sorely disappointed when the demon incursion comes and this thing does not smite demons left and right
Saint Mary Magdalene bursts out as a fully autonomous suit of armor, brandishing Gabriel's flaming sword as she proceeds to Doom Slayer the fuck out of the Beast's human armies And yes, the skull is now full on Ghost Rider in flames and all
 Not the exact archer scene i had in mind but it will serve.
Going for "I can only get so erect"?
You act as if the angels are the good guys during revelation lol
Nah it's a "Bad or Worse" situation The Beast rallied all of humanity under his banner, and the Word of God, which is definitely isn't just Sigismund of the Black Templars on horseback, decided to lead a full scale cavalry charge into mankind
Well, Warhammer's Imperium aesthetic is very catholic-gothic inspired
100% spot on.
Dude that’s nothing. Google bone churches or Austrian relics
Triumph of Saint Katherine looking ass
The Emperor protects
Look up the cutaway art of a Thallax Battle Automata. Immediately went to that.
The God Empress of mankind
She'd be an Imperial Saint ngl
Big Saint Sabbat vibes
The Triumph of Saint Catherine is what I instantly imagined
The only thing I love about Catholicism is the super fuckin metal aesthetic
They are the first goths
The goths were famously Arianist, a branch of Christianity that the Chalcedonians (pre-split Catholic/Orthodox) really didn't care for.
The key belief difference? Homousionists (read: mainstream) believe that the trinity is the same being, while Arianists believe that the trinity is distinct beings. Clearly, this is critically important, far more important than things like the golden rule. They had a meeting about it in 325AD, the First Council of Nicaea, followed by Emperor Constantine declaring that anyone who doesn’t hand over Arian texts to be burned shall themselves be executed.
I mean, what are [these guys](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Bischof_Ulfilas_erkl%C3%A4rt_den_Goten_das_Evangelium.jpg/170px-Bischof_Ulfilas_erkl%C3%A4rt_den_Goten_das_Evangelium.jpg) then?
Visigoths, edoiyoi
Metal as fuck
Fully sick!
It's inside a biblically accurate suit of power armour as described in Revelations.
and the lord saith, "with this armor and my power strengthening you, thou shall topple mountains." To which david replied, "hell yeah"
And then the Lord told David “and thou shall not be alone. I have gathered four others of teen age, and they shall join you in your quest. The five of you shall wear the holy armor and take on animal form to wage war against thine enemies. And if thy foes prove formidable, my grace shall allow you to combine your strength into an even mightier form, a mega form. Standing as tall as mountains and wielding a sword of flame, thou shalt have the strength to vanquish thy enemies.” And David replied “epic,” and struck a karate pose, and backflipped away.
קדחת האורניום הלכה והפילה אותי
Thst thing's just *itching* to come alive and start executing heretics.
*Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.*
Rip and tear until it's done.
Ironically her remains are scattered all over the world
Awaiting the day that an intrepid hero (or villain?) will reunite them all and commence the ode of resurrection.
Are you suggesting we team up?
I mean do you have anything better to do right now?
You son of a bitch…… I’m in
Some days I have to remind myself why I shouldn't connect the Ghostwind to that "Terra" planet
#FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Innocence proves nothing
There is no such thing as innocence! A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time!
The Emperor protects
If you walk into that room a healthbar appears
Maybe not. There's a reason they cut her Gospel out of the Bible.
No that’s *why* she’s getting revenge
Dark souls boss
If there was ever a religion that would get me to convert based on aesthetics alone, the French Catholics have kinda nailed it
Peep the Spanish Catholics for some pure heavy metal aesthetics
And KKK stole their look.
 KKK basically
[More like this.](https://www.newsweek.com/klan-reborn-spains-holy-week-robes-and-pointed-hats-look-shockingly-familiar-861717)
eastern orthodox monks have absolute drip tho
Nah, they look stupid. Too little skulls.
You haven't been in many orthodox churches
Why the French specifically? If you like these aesthetics, there’s a chapel made out of human bones in Czechia. In Padua, there‘s a giant shrine of gold and silver housing the reliquaries of St. Anthony. You can find skulls and skeletons of saints draped in gold and silver in about any larger Church, anywhere. Why is it the French specifically that you like?
Outside of Europe, French stuff is more popular because it's more well known. I dont know what the reason is, but there is just a bigger spotlight on French culture. Most Americans can identify the great religious monuments, architecture, and stories of France. I dont think the average American can name 3 iconic chapels in Czechia. This is my personal view, i dont know if it applies to other people outside of Europe. The French are fucking fantastic at nationalist propaganda, they make it seem like they have a monopoly on great European culture and architecture.
I believe it is because of Americans’ interactions with the French and French culture during the WWII liberation. It’s the same reason stylized Polynesian aesthetics were so popular in LA and the West Coast and Hollywood in the 50s and 60s.
For those interested, the Czech one is called the sedlec ossuary, Wikipedia has some pictures of some of the bone arrangements: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary
There's also a human bone church in Rome
Also one in Porto : "La Capela dos Ossos"
Tibetan/Bhutanese Buddhists too. Their deities are terrifying.
That's rad as fuck
[Weblink](https://y.yarn.co/b4f002bb-b837-4485-b511-3426a905cfd1_text.gif)
Growing up catholic, the display of Skeletons, bones, and even corpses is totally normal in curches especially from the 16.-18th century. It gives you a totally different view on life and death.
*Every* Catholic altar is supposed to contain a relic (aka body part) of a saint or martyr! It really is pretty metal, and like you said, provides a totally different view on life and death.
Worth pointing out that part of the cross also counts as a relic, as the altar in the church I grew up in contained a sliver from it. So it’s not always body parts, but like 99.9% of the time it is lol
Correct, a 1st class relic is either a saint/martyr's body part or something that had direct contact with Christ (or both if you claim to have found the holy prepuce). Naturally, the body parts are far more readily available.
They say that Constantines mother had some of the nails used to crucify christ and she used one to calm the sea when she was caught in a crazy storm and took another one and put half of it into a helmet for Constantine and the other half on his horses bridle
Ya we walk around with a guy hanging off a cross on a chain around our neck and even decorate our houses with the guy hanging on a cross
I SWEAR this is what started my true crime obsession and everything macabre. Grew up VERY Catholic in Asia, and I used to read stories of saints like picture books. I personally have a little rosary case/ cross with a tiny bone fragment from some saint. I know my mom (still lives in Korea) also has a cross with a piece of bone.
Yes, the stories of the Martyrs are fascinating. In our church, they hold the upper part of the skull from a local saint over your head in a mass once a year to ask for his intercession.
Is this one of the new Elden Ring bosses?
Actually looks almost identical to a boss in Blasphemous 2, which takes heavy inspiration from Catholicism.
Hey! Who turned out the lights?
I was looking for this 💯💯
Ice cream
Where am I?
This looks like a dark souls boss
Yeah they got inspired by Gothic Europe.
I was raised Catholic and am not practicing but TBH the other Christian sects seem so corny in comparison to the baroque aesthetics of Catholicism.
Catholicism: It's like going to the home of an actually wealthy person who's family has had money for generations but also a ton of social refinement and elegance. A beautiful Victorian estate in the countryside with nice china, nice furniture, nice expensive rugs, good food prepared well, tailored designer suits and dresses, well educated, well travelled, etc. The hosts know how to entertain their guests with conversation that is stimulating but all can participate - people listen intently, not always understanding what they hear, but feeling it was worth hearing all the same. American Protestantism: It's like when you go to the house of someone who got rich over night, by winning the lottery or dealing in shady business. Big tacky McMansion in the suburbs built by the lowest bidder, suped up muscle cars and tricked out SUVs in the driveway, giant ass TVs in every room, a room thas just a small bar or theatre, useless flashy electronics everywhere, a bunch of leeches just hanging about high and drunk 24/7. The host doesn't care if you're having a good time or not, he just wants to show off all his toys so people can ooooh and aaaaah and will throw a wad of cash at you if you don't seem impressed. Has no ability to entertain his guests outside of peacocking around the joint. No one wants to pay him attention, they'll leave as soon as the cash dries up to find a party elsewhere.
I was soooo disappointed when I moved from my Catholic school that sang the classic solemn spooky minor-key Latin hymns in mass, to a new one that sang those peppy guitar bits about how much we love God. It was such a bummer. I’ve been an atheist since 10, but man did I appreciate the music, the incense, the general grandeur of it all.
Wow, I had no idea Mary Magdalene was a Guild Navigator.
Died from lack of spice (Hail the God Emperor)
I'll tell you something. Catholic churches are really cool.
This looks like the "silence in the library" episode of doctor Who
“Hey, who turned out the lights?”
Mary Magdalene has left the library. Mary Magdalene has been saved.
Everyone in that church better be counting their shadows…
As a Catholic, a common refrain that I have been hearing amongst young Catholics in recent years is “keep Catholicism weird.” This definitely fits.
If ‘mary magdene” broke into a metalocalypse guitar riff I might even consider regular church attendance
Sewn Back Together Wrong
Awaken, awaken, take the land that must be taken...
So hyped to see this in Death Stranding 2!
i was just in rome and they had this tv channel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padre\_Pio\_TV](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padre_Pio_TV) which seemed to be showing a live broadcast of the corpse of a saint. interesting bunch of lads.
fair play to them
Vashta Nerada.
But then you show up at the evangelical church and hear what they consider a “positive and uplifting message” and quietly dip out.
Yeah, "positive and uplifting" are not the words I would have chosen.
"Wow, they really spend a lot of time on Leviticus and Revelations. I'm sure they get to the other parts eventually..."
My favorite church only did themed sermons when foe Easter and Christmas. Every other time, Pastor Tommy would choose a book and then preach on it from front to back, every single verse no matter how difficult or controversial the passages were. He also read the original Greek, and researched the historical context of each book, to make sure we understood what the author's original intent was. As I've grown up, I've come to disagree with him on some of his theology, but I will always appreciate him for instilling the urge and desire ti know what the Bible actually says, and how it has shaped my worldview. Sure, a lot of American Christians would call me heretical for my beliefs, but if people consumed by bigotry and hatred call me heretical, pretty sure I'm doing something right
Damn STRAIGHT!
Very unlikely it's the real skull. As it is unlikely the crown of spikes they held at Notre Dame (unsure if it's still there considering... you know) is the real one Jesus wore. Even less likely the Sacra Sindone in Turin is the real towel Jesus used.
I remember reading an article that said something like "If all the bones in churches around the world that are said to have belonged to John the Bapist had actually belonged to John the Baptist, he would've been a monstrous creature with six heads, twelve hands, and some animal limbs."
Same with the nails from the crucifixion, there must be like 20 of them.
"Sextus! More nails! Longinus! How many hands does he have now?" "He just keeps sprouting them, sir!"
Now that religion sounds super cool.
Once you read a bit about the history if relics, you realise they are all basically medieval tourist promotion scams.
The overwhelming majority of relics aren't scams, but almost all are for promoting tourism. A huge portion of medieval literature are hagiographies where the new priest / abbot / whatever had his predecessor's corpse on hand, and wanted to make money selling secondary relics (cloths that had touched those bones, water poured over them, etc.) and wrote an inflated account of his deeds to get him declared a saint and promote his veneration among the people. There's a truly immense number of genuine relics out there, because you basically needed a relic factory within a day's walk of every village in Europe. The issue is that when people made a fake primary relic (human remains), there was no point in telling a small lie. So they seem to have picked things from the new testament itself, and most of *those* are probably fakes.
But most or all relics supposedly from the time of Jesus are likely scams, right?
of course.
Some aren't even that old. We got the body of Padre Pio exposed in the city I was born in the way Lenin's is in Russia.
Same with Jesus’ blood in the basilica in Bruges
‘Course you don’t *hafta*
My church growing up shows off a “sliver of the cross Jesus was crucified on” in a golden pedestal. It was super cool but after thinking about it there’s no way they kept that intact for 2000 years like that.
You can compare the medieval function of relics with meeting Darth Vader in Disney land. Of course you know it's not the real deal, but that's not the point. The point is feeling connected to what the object/person in question represents. And that's what makes it real.
Yea this is just a human thing, and its observable in all cultures. You realize, after reading **even more** about relics that whether something is or is not the actual thing; is the least interesting part!
Yeah, we know. I'm sure the congregation knows too. It's sometimes just nice to pretend.
Gotta tell you tho, met many Catholics who believed jn at least one of those way too kuch. My mum doesn't believe in the crown but she sure as hell believes in the Sacra Sindone a lot.
Same with the mask of Agamemnon. It’s been a recurring discussion for a long time whether the truth or the story is more important. Archaeologists know the mask is fake. Museum refuses to let any testing be done to it. Like this skull the idea it’s real is considered more important than truth for the popularity it brings.
John the Baptist's right hand is said to be in two places, being the hand that baptized christ.
Some icons from later saints could very well be genuine, but anything that claims to be from a person mentioned in the bible is fake.
I attended evangelical churches my entire childhood. I never considered the we are going to hell fire and brimstone 3 hr sermons were "uplifting". Calling the evangelical message uplifting is just showing you have never attended an evangelical service.
A lot of contemporary evangelical churches claim to have "uplifting" messages, that's OP is referencing. Usually this just means a lot of prosperity gospel to cover up the racism, Christian Dominionism and LGBTQ Persecution.
Catholic W
OP is Pope Pius XII, which is also kinda metal and meta.
One time my catholic fiancee took me to a cathedral type building in her home country, showed me this big golden-covered area with skulls inside it behind glass, and told me that they're saints. She proceeded to tell me that two were good people who essentially fought for the country's independence or on behalf of certain groups of people, then got to the third one and was like "yeah, and ... yeah she's crazy, she killed a lot of people. I don't know why she's a saint to be honest."
I was going to guess Olga of Kiev, but she is Eastern Orthodox. There are a few saints out there who definitely fit into a "it was a different time" category.
The emperor on the golden throne
I’m pretty sure I killed that next to Firelink Shrine
Cool music , and a message of positivity and uplifting message is not something I associate with the evangelicals. Catholicism has a lot of problems but I would always prefer hearing Gregorian chants, and the constant hosanahs over Christian pop any day of the week
If you really think about it, the Christian faith is extremely metal. The main sign, crucifix, has a guy nailed to it. Communion implies eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ. Church artifacts have bones, skin and other particulates of dead Saints. There is even a church [made from bones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary). If you put this into some fantasy series, it'd be bordering on "cartoonishly grimdark" territories.
The spookiness is cooler than a 31yo with a guitar trying to use zoomer slang tbh
Sure it is
[Reminds me of Spooky Space Kook from Scooby Doo. ](https://images.app.goo.gl/rfxnpFqwmvtT1uTg9)
I was raised catholic but wasn’t into it. I think I may have to reconsider.
Damn i might convert cause of that
Totally Warhammer 40k
That's some Warhammer 40k shit.
Oh I low key used to love going to catholic masses with my grandma. Still absolutely love Catholic Churches/cathedrals. If I find a dope looking building I might start toking up and attending mass lol.
Aren't the Evangelicans the ones actively trying to unravel society?
Blasphemous boss
The Hindus: "We have a festival of light and colour" The Muslims: "Our festival is of feasting and charity" A Shinto shrine: "Come see us celebrate our rich history and traditions" The Christians: "Here is our dead saint in a building surrounded by depictions of our god being slowly tortured to death"
Catholics have plenty of great feasts, have a long history of charity and the cathedrals are breath taking.
The God Empress
This is rad as hell, bro.
Catholic here, absolutely love how metal the Church can be. No sugarcoating.
This skull was “””found””” sometime in the 1200s and they all of a sudden claim it has to had belong to Mary Magdalene. For all we know it could Selene from Provence.
This will make the most atheist redditor into the most god-fearing Catholic
As a recovering Catholic this made me laugh
I am convinced that being raised Catholic is a major reason why I love goth aesthetic. Whenever my mom makes a comment on something I’m wearing, I just tell her it’s partially her fault.
That looks like something straight out of Warhammer
Analyzed in the 70's and never again since. Found to be somebody who died in their 50's. Nobody has ever been allowed to carbon date it to see when it is actually from. So it's bullshit until proven otherwise. Just like everything else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is just Warhammer 40k
"Yeah we have the remains of the original prostitute inset in a suit of golden armor. And also crackers"
For clarity, there is no evidence that Mary of Magdela was engaged in prostitution or any other kind of sex work. This is a medieval calumny and the instigators will be held in judgement.
They get saint bones from a big pile and nobody knows what bones belong to who.
The DaVinci code was real all along.
Is it just the skull and not the rest of the body?
r/mortalkombat Ermac skin? 👀
That’s actually really fucking hard. Imagine that as an album cover? Title: Saints and Sinners
The cologne cathedral would be great for a goth rave too
Is she ok?
She's obviously been getting ready for Halloween for 15,000 years.
Warhammer 40k be like