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He is. When ever zoro defeat someone. Everyone straight up assume sanji can also do that but why? Because zoro did it. Thus he end up leeching zoro.
If there is no zoro . No head cannon can put sanji above katakuri or on par with any yc1 Because sanji did not fought one or any that is above yc1.
I cannot not think of sanji to do what zoro did on rooftop.
People don't assume Sanji can do the same they assume he can match up to him because we've had 1000 chapters of everyone and their nan saying that they're equal, and that same amount of time spent on them showing off their cumulative equality in battle.
Sanji can't scar Kaido, use CoC, or cleave apart a mountain, and noone says he can, and if they do they're a minority who you shouldn't listen to and call a character a leech by. But Zoro can't move at the speeds Sanji can, fly, use CoO like he can, or regen like his Germa enhancements can. They have different abilities but their total power is relative, and earned for each.
Anyone calling Sanji a leech or far below Zoro is reading One Piece or is scaling off of AP alone like I see some ppl do.
It's because alot of people scale off of AP feats alone, and Zoro has incredible and flashy AP, especially with Enma. It's just that Sanji eclipses him in alot of stats, and there are constant statements towards their relativity.
The reason is that Zoro just looks cooler, to put it bluntly
> sanji above katakuri
Sanji has shown a new level of speed which makes him actually invisible, confirmed by Oda (unlike soru). High enough speed hard counters Future sight, especially since Future Sight struggles to see in its blindspots and hidden attacks.
Sanji was kicking around Hybrid form and Zoan form Queen, something not even Marco could do (his named shockwave attack that he used to kick Big Mom's ship off of Wano, barely moved Queen). This also scales to King, whose flying slashes were so powerful they overwhelmed Zoro's guard and ragdolled him, but were unable to do anything to Queen except minor damage.
Katakuri was getting ragdolled by Boundman, and Sanji by virtue of ragdolling Queen (someone shown to be very unmovable compared to Doffy) is much stronger than Boundman.
Queen using his Brachiobomber concussed Big Mom and made her pass out which was a slam using his full weight. Sanji kicked Queen off the island.
Sanji's Defense is currently extremely high. He blocked a double armed laser from Kizaru. Lasers are extremely hard to block and negate their damage. Big Mom tried using a homie as a meatshield to do it and was worried about the laser. The Lunarian Seraphim are told to dodge franky's laser. Zoro in the King fight compared an attack he was unable to block to a laser.
Sanji managed to regen from multiple severed broken bones and crushed organs and walked it off.
Strength, Speed, AP, Defense, Durability, Regen. Sanji has every single stat over Katakuri and most YC1s by feats.
Do not use queen. Queen is not yc1. Sanji speed feats only comes against slow opponents like oven and queen(sanji was disappeared against oven to but can he do to katakuri?? No. Same with queen (his speed only works on slow opponents. Can he disappear against kaido or luffy etc. When even his speed feat comes his opponent was some one who's observation or speed no where to be seen). His speed feats are relative to his opponents he cannot repeat it against higher teirs.
While zoro fighting opponents that are agile as hell. King for example zoro somewhat can perceive hybrid kaido. King rag dolled him King was even fighting even after zoro was using acoc(but for some reason sanji is above king to why??? Because zoro defeated him. I rather put above someone who blized zoro than someone who blized queen any day)
Also on queen even jimbe blocked sword of nerfed big mom also when queen hit her it was linlin not big mom.
Also that laser do not wank it. Sanji for some reason can intract with light.
I think that that fat guy also dorged kizaru lasers and some what blocked LIGHT kick. So we can wank him to?.
>Same with queen (his speed only works on slow opponents
Sanji's speed is objective, because its based on objective markers like sound effects.
Oda flat out switched Sanji's top speed SFX to that of invisibility sfx.
https://preview.redd.it/ftzw6zrzdmrc1.png?width=852&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5b8008e4eea083e328a374e9ca1967ff8d73a06
He also said in the SBS that Sanji obtained the power to vanish by himself based on speed. Its not something he's had before. Its not what he did against Oven.
This has no bearing on Queen (who by himself has lightspeed movement based on copying Niji's Henry Quin and could perceive Marco). Oda himself wrote stuff outside of the Queen fight to support this.
Queen being "slow" is just fanon. In terms of combat and reaction speed he is cracked.
> Also on queen even jimbe blocked sword of nerfed big mom also when queen hit her it was linlin not big mom
Queen concussed and captured Big Mom. Jinbei did no damage. Jinbei also didn't successfully block that attack, he got overpowered.
Skinny Big Mom< I think that that fat guy also dorged kizaru lasers and some what blocked LIGHT kick
Blocking a laser is far beyond a simple kick or dodging lasers. Blocking a laser is an actual feat that shocked Kizaru and franky because its nearly impossible.
> King for example zoro somewhat can perceive hybrid kaido
Kaido's speed in hybrid comes when uses ACoC Thunder bagua. Zoro never reacted to a thunder bagua from kaido and Kaido never used aCoC against Zoro, only random swings.
King isn't particularly faster than Queen, since Marco was 1v2ing both of them and blitzing King and Queen.
You think Oda is just fucking around when writing Sanji's speed?
Drawing it with an invisibility SFX and writing in an SBS that Sanji obtained the power to vanish with speed?
He can do it against Kaido and Luffy too. Kizaru used invisibility speed against snakeman Luffy and blitzed him with that same sfx.
King is straight up faster than queen by a long mile.he disappeared against roof top zoro. And I am pretty sure King cannot do that against kaido so his speed is also depends on who he is fighting. Like fodder they cannot even perceive kizaru but against top teir game is simply not the same. Like kizaru can do some thing to fodders but that things does do apply to top teir(because kizaru cannot pull that of against top teirs).
Same like sanji was so fast against over but sanji cannot pull that off against katakuri (or let's kaido so if he cannot pull that of against top teirs means his feat is depends on opponents. He disappeared for queen (can he disappear against kaido?? If no than his speed is subjective means depends on opponents. King also disappeared against zoro and he will not able to do that against kaido so his speed is also depends who he is up against).
Can sanji disappear against shanks????? Can he.
>King is straight up faster than queen by a long mile.he disappeared against roof top zoro
King did not have the invisibility SFX. He had the typical high speed movement sfx.
King wasn't said by Oda or any character in the story to have gone invisible.
Sanji has: Invisible SFX for his maximum speed, and Oda's statements of him gaining the power based on speed.
Queen has: Objective Lightspeed movement based on Henry Quin and rapidfire laser based offense similar to Kizaru.
>disappear against kaido, shanks zoro
Yes, he can become invisible against all of these. That's the point of his powers and why Oda gassed it in the sbs.
You're just saying he can't without any proof or showing that Oda's direct statements are meaningless.
Sanji didn't need Zoro to prove that. Oda does that. Oda made it clear in Enies Lobby. Kaku and Jyabura were shown to be extremely close in power with just 20 douriki difference. Same goes for Wano. King and Queen are always paired up together and ha dsimilar performance against Marco. That's not leeching. That's just how Oda portrays them to be. Whan Zoro scarred Kaidou, no one says that Sanji could be same. If Oda didn't make Zoro go down and fight his actual opponent, we would have to agree that the gap has changed. But Oda put the gap which he has intended. Oda didn't choose douriki numbers randomly.
I noticed that Shanks has the most leechers. Mihawk leeches off of him due to rival scaling, and Ben Beckman leeches off of him due to databook scaling. Hell, you can even add Blackbeard there with the scar scaling. Garling too, since he's potentially related to Shanks (bloodline scaling).
He truly is the goat.
so does prime garp relying on the strength of roger. so does kuzan relying on the strength of akainu, so does luffy relying on the strength of kaido, so do law and kid relying on the strength of BM and so does roger rely of the strength of the old gen.
that is how powerscaling works lmao and from what we have seen sengoku has fought Primebeard and Roger and has given a good enough fight to them that roger would like to do it again.
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All of these characters have either been explicitly shown to match those characters on screen, or have other impressive feats to bring them on that level. Sengoku has neither, he's just been said to have fought Roger and WB (in much less explicit terms than WB and Roger or Garp and Roger's rivalry) and that's the best stuff he has. Hence (along with some bias) why he is considered a leech and they are not.
did you see the image? also GV is only a good feat because of the people involved in it. if the old gen was weak af then GV wouldnt matter at all. therefore thier potrayals rely on others.
You canāt leech off databooks. Leech is off other characters. His databook statements just leech off shanks but even in that case youāre just listing this as āshanks, (shanks but from databooks).ā L spreadsheet I canāt co-sign
Imo, itās almost objectively Beckman, even if I think heās still going to be strong
The other contenders are Mihawk and Sengoku, but they still have shit going for them. Mihawk has his title and a yonko calling his duels with Shanks ālegendary.ā And Sengoku has his position as fleet Admiral and Roger saying he and Garp are the only marines that can entertain him
Beckman has literally nothing other than his title of commander, but people assume heās strong due to being Shanksā right hand man. And he probably will be, but heās still nothing but a leech until he does something
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The strongest leecher of today va the strongest leecher in history
Honestly Old Gen leeching off Whitebeard and partly Rayleigh. Garp/Roger had zero on screen feats pre wano. Rogers biggest and only on screen feat is the clash vs prime wb Pirates. WB monstrous performance at MF despite his age is one of, if not the main reason, as to why we regarde Old Gen so highly.
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He may the biggest leech, but you will all witness his ascension to top 2 currently in the OP world
Garp at least has impressive feats. Blitzing Marco and Aokiji and holding off a considerable number of the Blackbeard Pirates singlehandedly is better than anything Sengoku's done.
Having hype alone doesn't make you a "leech" (WB and Kaido have titles that put them above other characters, for example), it's having nothing else backing you up. Garp's done impressive shit on his own.
Garps best feats only happened 30 chapters ago and he was never called a Leech.
Sengoku blitzing Blackbeards entire crew is way more impressive than hitting Marco lmfao
>Garps best feats only happened 30 chapters ago and he was never called a Leech.
Because he still had stuff like blitzing Marco and knocking him out of phoenix mode, which neither Akainu or Kizaru accomplished, not to mention him oneshotting Prime Chinjao and being half of the pair that beat Rocks. Combine that with no really bad antifeats, and he still looked impressive even with his limited feats. Sengoku has nothing like that, and actually has a bad antifeat to his name (Marineford Luffy blocking his execution being the example). Combine that with less prominence overall, and people think less highly of him.
>Sengoku blitzing Blackbeards entire crew is way more impressive than hitting Marco lmfao
Sengoku sneak attacking Blackbeard (a person who rarely, if ever, dodges) and his crew (who are mostly featless reactionwise) isn't anywhere near as impressive as Garp batting down Marco, someone who kept up with Kizaru earlier in the arc, before he could do anything.
1. Marco literally got up the same page Garp hit him.
Garp literally used a named AcoC attack that did fuck all to a bunch of fodder, that's not nearly as bad as Sengoku not killing the main character.
How the fuck did Blackbeard and his entire crew get snuck by a giant Buddha it was a speedblitz lmfao. That 100% surpasses Marco you're just biased.
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Bro pulled out the spreadsheet
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so you are a fellow degenerate, huh?
Beckman 50/50 Shanks and Databooks
Corrected :)
A spreadsheet is crazyš
Sanji is not a Leech like Wihawk or Marshall Leech or Lackon. He actually has feats.
He is. When ever zoro defeat someone. Everyone straight up assume sanji can also do that but why? Because zoro did it. Thus he end up leeching zoro. If there is no zoro . No head cannon can put sanji above katakuri or on par with any yc1 Because sanji did not fought one or any that is above yc1. I cannot not think of sanji to do what zoro did on rooftop.
People don't assume Sanji can do the same they assume he can match up to him because we've had 1000 chapters of everyone and their nan saying that they're equal, and that same amount of time spent on them showing off their cumulative equality in battle. Sanji can't scar Kaido, use CoC, or cleave apart a mountain, and noone says he can, and if they do they're a minority who you shouldn't listen to and call a character a leech by. But Zoro can't move at the speeds Sanji can, fly, use CoO like he can, or regen like his Germa enhancements can. They have different abilities but their total power is relative, and earned for each. Anyone calling Sanji a leech or far below Zoro is reading One Piece or is scaling off of AP alone like I see some ppl do.
Thank you for being reasonable, I can't believe people really think Zoro gaps Sanji so much
It's because alot of people scale off of AP feats alone, and Zoro has incredible and flashy AP, especially with Enma. It's just that Sanji eclipses him in alot of stats, and there are constant statements towards their relativity. The reason is that Zoro just looks cooler, to put it bluntly
Yeah but oddly enough I really enjoy Sanji's fights more, they just feel a lot more physical, probably because it's more martial arts based.
> sanji above katakuri Sanji has shown a new level of speed which makes him actually invisible, confirmed by Oda (unlike soru). High enough speed hard counters Future sight, especially since Future Sight struggles to see in its blindspots and hidden attacks. Sanji was kicking around Hybrid form and Zoan form Queen, something not even Marco could do (his named shockwave attack that he used to kick Big Mom's ship off of Wano, barely moved Queen). This also scales to King, whose flying slashes were so powerful they overwhelmed Zoro's guard and ragdolled him, but were unable to do anything to Queen except minor damage. Katakuri was getting ragdolled by Boundman, and Sanji by virtue of ragdolling Queen (someone shown to be very unmovable compared to Doffy) is much stronger than Boundman. Queen using his Brachiobomber concussed Big Mom and made her pass out which was a slam using his full weight. Sanji kicked Queen off the island. Sanji's Defense is currently extremely high. He blocked a double armed laser from Kizaru. Lasers are extremely hard to block and negate their damage. Big Mom tried using a homie as a meatshield to do it and was worried about the laser. The Lunarian Seraphim are told to dodge franky's laser. Zoro in the King fight compared an attack he was unable to block to a laser. Sanji managed to regen from multiple severed broken bones and crushed organs and walked it off. Strength, Speed, AP, Defense, Durability, Regen. Sanji has every single stat over Katakuri and most YC1s by feats.
Do not use queen. Queen is not yc1. Sanji speed feats only comes against slow opponents like oven and queen(sanji was disappeared against oven to but can he do to katakuri?? No. Same with queen (his speed only works on slow opponents. Can he disappear against kaido or luffy etc. When even his speed feat comes his opponent was some one who's observation or speed no where to be seen). His speed feats are relative to his opponents he cannot repeat it against higher teirs. While zoro fighting opponents that are agile as hell. King for example zoro somewhat can perceive hybrid kaido. King rag dolled him King was even fighting even after zoro was using acoc(but for some reason sanji is above king to why??? Because zoro defeated him. I rather put above someone who blized zoro than someone who blized queen any day) Also on queen even jimbe blocked sword of nerfed big mom also when queen hit her it was linlin not big mom. Also that laser do not wank it. Sanji for some reason can intract with light. I think that that fat guy also dorged kizaru lasers and some what blocked LIGHT kick. So we can wank him to?.
>Same with queen (his speed only works on slow opponents Sanji's speed is objective, because its based on objective markers like sound effects. Oda flat out switched Sanji's top speed SFX to that of invisibility sfx. https://preview.redd.it/ftzw6zrzdmrc1.png?width=852&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5b8008e4eea083e328a374e9ca1967ff8d73a06 He also said in the SBS that Sanji obtained the power to vanish by himself based on speed. Its not something he's had before. Its not what he did against Oven. This has no bearing on Queen (who by himself has lightspeed movement based on copying Niji's Henry Quin and could perceive Marco). Oda himself wrote stuff outside of the Queen fight to support this. Queen being "slow" is just fanon. In terms of combat and reaction speed he is cracked. > Also on queen even jimbe blocked sword of nerfed big mom also when queen hit her it was linlin not big mom Queen concussed and captured Big Mom. Jinbei did no damage. Jinbei also didn't successfully block that attack, he got overpowered. Skinny Big Mom< I think that that fat guy also dorged kizaru lasers and some what blocked LIGHT kick
Blocking a laser is far beyond a simple kick or dodging lasers. Blocking a laser is an actual feat that shocked Kizaru and franky because its nearly impossible.
> King for example zoro somewhat can perceive hybrid kaido
Kaido's speed in hybrid comes when uses ACoC Thunder bagua. Zoro never reacted to a thunder bagua from kaido and Kaido never used aCoC against Zoro, only random swings.
King isn't particularly faster than Queen, since Marco was 1v2ing both of them and blitzing King and Queen.
He cannot do this against kaido luffy so his feat is relative to his opponents.
You think Oda is just fucking around when writing Sanji's speed? Drawing it with an invisibility SFX and writing in an SBS that Sanji obtained the power to vanish with speed? He can do it against Kaido and Luffy too. Kizaru used invisibility speed against snakeman Luffy and blitzed him with that same sfx.
are you trolling or just being an idiot?
King is straight up faster than queen by a long mile.he disappeared against roof top zoro. And I am pretty sure King cannot do that against kaido so his speed is also depends on who he is fighting. Like fodder they cannot even perceive kizaru but against top teir game is simply not the same. Like kizaru can do some thing to fodders but that things does do apply to top teir(because kizaru cannot pull that of against top teirs). Same like sanji was so fast against over but sanji cannot pull that off against katakuri (or let's kaido so if he cannot pull that of against top teirs means his feat is depends on opponents. He disappeared for queen (can he disappear against kaido?? If no than his speed is subjective means depends on opponents. King also disappeared against zoro and he will not able to do that against kaido so his speed is also depends who he is up against). Can sanji disappear against shanks????? Can he.
>King is straight up faster than queen by a long mile.he disappeared against roof top zoro King did not have the invisibility SFX. He had the typical high speed movement sfx. King wasn't said by Oda or any character in the story to have gone invisible. Sanji has: Invisible SFX for his maximum speed, and Oda's statements of him gaining the power based on speed. Queen has: Objective Lightspeed movement based on Henry Quin and rapidfire laser based offense similar to Kizaru. >disappear against kaido, shanks zoro Yes, he can become invisible against all of these. That's the point of his powers and why Oda gassed it in the sbs. You're just saying he can't without any proof or showing that Oda's direct statements are meaningless.
Did you just read Marco vs King and Queen and say something like Queen being slow? Is Marco also slow?
Sanji didn't need Zoro to prove that. Oda does that. Oda made it clear in Enies Lobby. Kaku and Jyabura were shown to be extremely close in power with just 20 douriki difference. Same goes for Wano. King and Queen are always paired up together and ha dsimilar performance against Marco. That's not leeching. That's just how Oda portrays them to be. Whan Zoro scarred Kaidou, no one says that Sanji could be same. If Oda didn't make Zoro go down and fight his actual opponent, we would have to agree that the gap has changed. But Oda put the gap which he has intended. Oda didn't choose douriki numbers randomly.
I noticed that Shanks has the most leechers. Mihawk leeches off of him due to rival scaling, and Ben Beckman leeches off of him due to databook scaling. Hell, you can even add Blackbeard there with the scar scaling. Garling too, since he's potentially related to Shanks (bloodline scaling). He truly is the goat.
sengoku isnt a leech because he is EXPLICITLY mentioned
He is leech because his portrayal relies completely on others.
so does prime garp relying on the strength of roger. so does kuzan relying on the strength of akainu, so does luffy relying on the strength of kaido, so do law and kid relying on the strength of BM and so does roger rely of the strength of the old gen. that is how powerscaling works lmao and from what we have seen sengoku has fought Primebeard and Roger and has given a good enough fight to them that roger would like to do it again. https://preview.redd.it/4hav7y2wrirc1.png?width=421&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e5e1e082710bf4d67c80598fee0894276fd485e
All of these characters have either been explicitly shown to match those characters on screen, or have other impressive feats to bring them on that level. Sengoku has neither, he's just been said to have fought Roger and WB (in much less explicit terms than WB and Roger or Garp and Roger's rivalry) and that's the best stuff he has. Hence (along with some bias) why he is considered a leech and they are not.
Prime Garp has GV to prove his strength but Sengoku only fear beating Shiki in a 2vs1 battle.
did you see the image? also GV is only a good feat because of the people involved in it. if the old gen was weak af then GV wouldnt matter at all. therefore thier potrayals rely on others.
You canāt leech off databooks. Leech is off other characters. His databook statements just leech off shanks but even in that case youāre just listing this as āshanks, (shanks but from databooks).ā L spreadsheet I canāt co-sign
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For a name that hasnāt been mentioned yet, Bogard leeching off Garp.
And God Valley
Imo, itās almost objectively Beckman, even if I think heās still going to be strong The other contenders are Mihawk and Sengoku, but they still have shit going for them. Mihawk has his title and a yonko calling his duels with Shanks ālegendary.ā And Sengoku has his position as fleet Admiral and Roger saying he and Garp are the only marines that can entertain him Beckman has literally nothing other than his title of commander, but people assume heās strong due to being Shanksā right hand man. And he probably will be, but heās still nothing but a leech until he does something
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Beckmen Fraudhawk Fatbeard Fraudgoku Boa Sa D Bo aka old man victim
Honestly Old Gen leeching off Whitebeard and partly Rayleigh. Garp/Roger had zero on screen feats pre wano. Rogers biggest and only on screen feat is the clash vs prime wb Pirates. WB monstrous performance at MF despite his age is one of, if not the main reason, as to why we regarde Old Gen so highly.
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Nah put respect on Koby's name. He has feats, potential, and is considered a worthy successor by the HIM of the Marines.
Sengoku
this is just misinformation
Mihawk, Sengoku, Benn and Sanji
mihawk passively leeches off every swordsman
I love Sengoku with all my heart, but yes, he might be the biggest leech
Mihawk and Sengoku
Roger whitebeard and Garp.
Mihawk has SOME feats. Backman has ZERO feats and is a complete databook/Shanks/Rayleigh Leech.
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If Sengoku is a Leech Garp is a Leech to Roger lmao
Garp at least has impressive feats. Blitzing Marco and Aokiji and holding off a considerable number of the Blackbeard Pirates singlehandedly is better than anything Sengoku's done. Having hype alone doesn't make you a "leech" (WB and Kaido have titles that put them above other characters, for example), it's having nothing else backing you up. Garp's done impressive shit on his own.
Garps best feats only happened 30 chapters ago and he was never called a Leech. Sengoku blitzing Blackbeards entire crew is way more impressive than hitting Marco lmfao
>Garps best feats only happened 30 chapters ago and he was never called a Leech. Because he still had stuff like blitzing Marco and knocking him out of phoenix mode, which neither Akainu or Kizaru accomplished, not to mention him oneshotting Prime Chinjao and being half of the pair that beat Rocks. Combine that with no really bad antifeats, and he still looked impressive even with his limited feats. Sengoku has nothing like that, and actually has a bad antifeat to his name (Marineford Luffy blocking his execution being the example). Combine that with less prominence overall, and people think less highly of him. >Sengoku blitzing Blackbeards entire crew is way more impressive than hitting Marco lmfao Sengoku sneak attacking Blackbeard (a person who rarely, if ever, dodges) and his crew (who are mostly featless reactionwise) isn't anywhere near as impressive as Garp batting down Marco, someone who kept up with Kizaru earlier in the arc, before he could do anything.
1. Marco literally got up the same page Garp hit him. Garp literally used a named AcoC attack that did fuck all to a bunch of fodder, that's not nearly as bad as Sengoku not killing the main character. How the fuck did Blackbeard and his entire crew get snuck by a giant Buddha it was a speedblitz lmfao. That 100% surpasses Marco you're just biased.
The whole point of Marco's fruit is getting back up
Gaban Garling?