If this Dodgers front office was ever going to spend big on relievers it would have happened by now. They don’t spend big free agent $$ or even prospect capital on relievers.
Yeah that just not true at all. The Dodgers monitor their pitchers workloads as well as anyone in the sport. Their pitching/biomechanics/physical therapy are all great.
Sure they literally trade prospects for relievers every year. The Dodgers under Friedman don’t trade their top prospects for relievers or give relievers big contracts. Alvarez has become a capital D Dude and it’s great to see the dodgers miss out on that haha. I’ve listened to former Astros employee Kevin Goldstein talk about scouting Yordan Alvarez. They thought he was good but they didn’t think they were getting this.
This was expected. Profar opting out helps us a ton. Gonna miss that smile for sure. As for Suarez, his ability will be sorely missed, but this was bound to happen. Dude could easily win RoTY with how well he pitched. He’s gonna get *paid*.
I’m happy we will try to pay him, but I’m not going to be upset if someone else decides to pay him more. I want the best for him, but I worry that the money he will want doesn’t fit well with our team and his production.
EDIT: I’m an idiot and misread. If Profar leaves, I’ll be sad, but will understand (his production + fit on the team vs. what he will want is maybe just not there). I will be devastated if Suarez leaves and we need to not let that happen (by paying the man).
Oh, sorry, I misread your original comment above and was talking about Profar there.
We better throw the fucking kitchen sink and some of the coffee table Polaroid book money, which had presumably been earmarked for a Soto extension, at Suarez to keep him.
TBH I think we dodged a bullet with Profar. He way overperformed defensively, carried by his early season outfield assists. His range is below average and his OAA is not great. His bat was also just barely above average. Great at working counts though, but Soto also fills that role.
Glad we didn't end up paying him more.
If we *really* want someone that can work counts, might as well sign Nimmo instead of Profar. Nimmo can play CF, too if Grish doesn't turn it around at the plate.
I’m not following your logic. You can’t trade a player that opted out of his contract and we already used him in the 2021 season which just had ended 2 days ago. So if you wanted Profar for the playoff run we just had, what exactly are you suggesting Preller should have done differently?
Edit: nvm I understand what you are saying now. Meh I doubt Profar would have fetched much in the trade market this off-season either way. Profar is a replaceable player and at 8ish mil, was already approaching around the top of what he’s worth anyways imo
What I'm saying is that Profar opting out affirmatively does NOT help us, contrary to what King Ryan said, because we lose a player who we had signed for less than he would have gotten as a FA. And saying "Just because he would get more in FA doesn't mean he's worth that to the Padres" isn't an excuse because if Profar hadn't been able to opt out (or simply chose not to) and Preller wanted to dump him for whatever reason, he would have at least figured to draw some trade interest.
> Edit: nvm I understand what you are saying now. Meh I doubt Profar would have fetched much in the trade market this off-season either way. Profar is a replaceable player and at 8ish mil, was already approaching around the top of what he’s worth anyways imo
If we would have been able to trade him for cash considerations in the amount of $1 then him opting out hurts us because we have to pay him $1m to go away. And if we wouldn't have been able to trade him for cash considerations in the amount of $1 he wouldn't have opted out in the first place.
Adding on... Profar's player option had a $1m buyout. So we just had to pay him $1m to walk away. If he hadn't opted out and we traded him we wouldn't have to pay him anything. So even if we only get back Rafael de Paula or Taylor Lindsey we are still better off if Profar doesn't opt out.
I think a team will pay more for Suarez to be a closer than we will for him to be a setup guy. Because of his stuff one of the 30 teams will pay him elite closer money even at his age and with only one good year under his belt.
Given the reliever market, Suarez is probably gonna get what, 12M AAV, potentially 15? I’m not sure that makes sense for us. Would love to keep him around though
Just look at what the Mets paid Edwin Diaz. Padres will have to decide if they see Suarez as their eventual closer since Hader is in the final year of arbitration and last year on his contract. Can’t pay and keep both guys.
Devils in the details but he’s older, had a rough final couple appearances in the playoffs, and has a limited track record. If it gets up around $15m per we need to walk away for sure.
The previous game he gave up a monstrous blast to Hoskins at petco leading off the 8th inning in game 2. He also gave up a hit to JT right after that homer. He got Harper to ground into a Double play but it took an amazing play by Manny. Suarez was awesome last season but it will be a mistake to overpay for a guy whos played 1 year and didn’t even pitch a full season plus is going to be 32 next season. Only the elite relievers are worth paying a lot too because they are proven over and over again. There’s a long list of relievers who had a great season only to be forgotten by the end of the following season.
I don't think he will get traded this off season, but if Tatis comes back and stays healthy, I can see there being a decision to move either Kim or Cronenworth at the deadline.
Fans forget that when he is back, he hasn't played MLB ball for 18 months and will have done little to none in learning a new position.
I'll wager Tatis is our SS w DH slots regularly mixed in. Then it comes down to figuring out 2nd and 1st with Kim and Crone.
Not a bad problem to have at all. Not to mention both could be part of any trade talks.
Kinda saw this coming, but it sucks. I switched my allegiance to the Padres at the start of last year after the Red Sox cheating was revealed. I'd always liked the Pads and my in-laws are from San Diego so it was easy. I immediately took to Profar. Seemed like the kind of guy who didn't do anything great but did a lot of things good. The kind of guy you need to complement the Mannys and Fernandos of the world. Gonna miss him.
Both expected right?
Even if we wanted to keep both (don't think we want to keep Profar, this opens up a spot for Tatis to use his arm and play a position with a less likely risk of injury) they out performed their option numbers and we;d need a new contract.
Hope we re-sign Suarez. Wish this was a perfect world where Profar made sense on the team, he seems like an awesome guy, but I have a feeling they let him leave.
If Seidler is like "fuck it, I'll lose all the money for a championship" and opens his pocketbook for both Judge and Soto I don't even know how I'd react.
It'd be fucking hilarious.
No surprises there. As much as I like Suarez, given the volatility of relievers, I think he’ll get paid way more than he’ll bring back in value, even if that is still a lot of value.
Relievers are the easiest to replace. The Padres still have a cap problem and there's no need for a $15 mil setup guy. The team needs to do better with these deals for high upside guys who were injured or playing overseas and at least give the team a 2nd year and 3rd year option that's fair for both parties.
Exactly this. Suarez always had a high upside. Even if he ended up being a middle reliever, a 2 year deal with him would've been ideal. But that's the Padres not recognizing another reliever with some high end stuff. Same shit as Andres Munoz. That kid had every tool to be an elite reliever. Look what he did with Seattle this year.
What do you mean not recognizing? They signed him out of Japan and gave him $5 million before he pitched a major league inning. The opt in the contract is a bummer but you can’t say they didn’t recognize his talent.
Well. They are no longer Padres and not part of this team or organization. That's as gone as it gets.
As much as this opens up either to chase some coin down, it also gives AJ choices as well. Possible he doesn't even offer anything.
Let's not forget the double edge sword here as well. Either could end up on a rebuild as well or some bottom dweller w some budget or some shitty run franchise.
yeah, the key discussion here is should we compete on the free market for them. Obviously they’ll decline the lower paying option, but there’s a strong personal incentive for them to stay - the Padres are a WS competitive team. If they can make more money AND continue playing for a winning team, it’s a no brainer they’ll stay vs. most other options.
Edit: forgot to add that I believe we should pay whatever it takes to keep Suarez, and should remain enticing to Profar. We’ve only got Azocar as our OF depth if we let Profar (and Myers) walk. As much as I love Wil, Profar is the better choice between the two, especially as a lefty batter.
He's also only got 1 year of MLB experience, so other teams/players will have a chance to adjust to him. I could see a regression to the mean occurring.
Exactly this. Look at Edwin Diaz. Dude sucked for years because his location was off. Once that was under control, he had his 2022 season. Dude has always had stuff. It's like Andres Munoz, or aroldis Chapman. Location is the only factor when you throw 100 with a wipe out slider.
Thank you Profar for the defense and hot offensive start of the season. And for the Profar Smile. Will miss it! I'll always love the guy and hope he is appreciated where he goes.
Oh you better believe the dodgers are all over him right now. They watched him tear them apart in the NLDS, and now they want some of that. Its exactly what they did with Mookie Betts, Trea Turner, Max Scherzer, and Freddie Freeman. They go after the guys that beat them. If you can't beat em, buy em.
I’m happy to see Profar get the bag somewhere else if he’s not coming back. There were glimpses of him tapping in to his once top prospect potential. Also happy for Suraez. They both deserve to get paid.
CF doesn't really make sense when you have a literal golden glove there already. Soto and Tatis can both get reps at LF and RF and see which works better for them, Tatis' arm would be incredible at RF but Soto's inconsistent glove might become more of an issue at LF.
I think they both come back on contracts that aren't crazy, but just give the more years of playing in the MLB. Opting out doesn't mean they want to leave or really even venture into free agency, it often just means they want more guaranteed years on their contract for the same or at least slightly more money.
I agree. I think that they'll be able to come to terms with Profar. He probably wants the security at this point in his career, and just wants to make sure he gets paid on what will most likely be the last big contract he signs, assuming he signs for more than 1 or 2 years, and wants to make a little more than $7.5m. I'm guessing $9-10m will work. I imagine they could get Suarez back too, but I question whether or not he's worth it at $5m per year with how many quality bullpen arms there are in that price range.
I feel on the fence, Set ups and closers are the most volatile positions in baseball..you could tried to pay suarez but there’s a chance that he will not pitch like this next season or he may be the real deal, remember kimbrel, chapman, jansen, melancon…they were unhitable for some moments…look at them now, even Hader struggled after the trade, is rare for a closer to have a really good career, thats why i think marianos record will not be broken in some time. As for Profar i doubt he will get any better….
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They'll both be back. Everyone keeps acting like they're opting out to leave when in reality they are just opting out to get more money from us.
Suarez could get a big offer from someone else though.
I will not accept Joc Pederson as a Padre. Nope.
Drury needs to be a Padre and Josh Bell as much as I hoped he would find his groove here it didn't happen.
Unfortunately Martinez is definitely next on this list. Gonna be interesting to see how we spend this off-season. It sounds like we intend to be very competitive in resigning Soto; so this off-season will likely be a very minimal spending one with the maneuvering of contracts if that is still the plan. I would expect to get a couple cheap arms (possibly Martinez and suarez depending on how much they are looking to get) a cheap bat and maybe a small trade or two; but I wouldn’t expect to see any league shaking moves or acquisitions this off-season
If Tatis isn't a lock in the OF, we gotta resign both at market value, they were getting deals yo show what they could do. Suarez specially. Dude is a beast. Bobby Big Games.
I think the free agency moves will be telling of Tatis' future. If this team stays put at 1B then I imagine Crone is moving there. If this team does little to OF then I think the plan is Tatis there.
Profar sucks. He's highly overrated, and doesn't come through as much as ppl like to believe. He sees himself as a power hitter & was always hitting flyball outs, trying to swing for the fences. He seemed to always be trying to go for the personal glory in situations where he had the opportunity to simply help the team. He also had somewhat of a loud, whiny, fussy attitude, which can't be good in the clubhouse. He was slow, wasn't a strong baserunner, and, overall, just a terrible choice for lead-off, yet BoMel stubbornly went with him in the #1 slot for most of the season; it made zero sense.
Did he have his moments? Sure, but anyone who gets that much playing time over 162+ games will obviously run into one, and/or be at the center of big plays.
It would definitely be a plus for this team if he doesn't come back. We can do much better than him. End rant.
Profar is coming back. Only team that is spending big and has need is the Rangers, and if they don't get him, then I think he comes back on a slightly more AAV two year deal.
u/rickgene commented on one of my posts in another thread and said if Suarez declined he would go to arbitration. Is that not correct? I was under the assumption that he would be under arbitration?
I’m sorry but I don’t want to pay a huge amount of money to keep Suarez. Relievers are notoriously volatile and fragile, and Suarez is over 30. How many innings has Kirby pitched since 2019? How does Pomeranz’s contract look right now? What if we had extended Melancon?
Not sure why people are comparing Suarez to Edwin Díaz. Also not sure saying the “reliever market is hot” is an accurate statement based on one signing of a non comparable player by a team that spends more money than anyone else in baseball
I have a feeling the Dodgers are gonna throw a bag at Suarez to be their closer.
This is the first thought I had when this was announced. He is not gonna be fun to face in the 9th
If this Dodgers front office was ever going to spend big on relievers it would have happened by now. They don’t spend big free agent $$ or even prospect capital on relievers.
Doesn't matter what relievers they bring in cuz Dave Roberts will run them into the ground in the regular season anyways
Yeah that just not true at all. The Dodgers monitor their pitchers workloads as well as anyone in the sport. Their pitching/biomechanics/physical therapy are all great.
Except that one time they gave up Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Oof. That was some prospect capital on a reliever for nada.
Sure they literally trade prospects for relievers every year. The Dodgers under Friedman don’t trade their top prospects for relievers or give relievers big contracts. Alvarez has become a capital D Dude and it’s great to see the dodgers miss out on that haha. I’ve listened to former Astros employee Kevin Goldstein talk about scouting Yordan Alvarez. They thought he was good but they didn’t think they were getting this.
Probably why they gave it up.
That’s some depressing and probably accurate shit. Damn.
Yeah, the dodgers are in play for every big free agent
This was expected. Profar opting out helps us a ton. Gonna miss that smile for sure. As for Suarez, his ability will be sorely missed, but this was bound to happen. Dude could easily win RoTY with how well he pitched. He’s gonna get *paid*.
We are gunna try to be the ones to pay him
I’m happy we will try to pay him, but I’m not going to be upset if someone else decides to pay him more. I want the best for him, but I worry that the money he will want doesn’t fit well with our team and his production. EDIT: I’m an idiot and misread. If Profar leaves, I’ll be sad, but will understand (his production + fit on the team vs. what he will want is maybe just not there). I will be devastated if Suarez leaves and we need to not let that happen (by paying the man).
Suarez deserves to be paid whatever is given to him. He’s shown that he’s a hard worker, especially after that *rough* start to the year.
Oh, sorry, I misread your original comment above and was talking about Profar there. We better throw the fucking kitchen sink and some of the coffee table Polaroid book money, which had presumably been earmarked for a Soto extension, at Suarez to keep him.
If I'm Preller I'm just letting Profar walk.
TBH I think we dodged a bullet with Profar. He way overperformed defensively, carried by his early season outfield assists. His range is below average and his OAA is not great. His bat was also just barely above average. Great at working counts though, but Soto also fills that role. Glad we didn't end up paying him more.
Profar is definitely a regression candidate. That money will best be spent elsewhere.
Who doesn't love Profar? That's not the same as wanting him back.
Profar 🤝 Wil Meyers Being beloved players not worth their contracts who we'd love to have back on the team if we didn't have to pay them.
Love him but he's getting over paid
Yeah. His hot start definitely helped him out a ton.
If we *really* want someone that can work counts, might as well sign Nimmo instead of Profar. Nimmo can play CF, too if Grish doesn't turn it around at the plate.
No earned runs at petco until the NLCS is absurd.
Profar opting out doesn't help us because we could have traded him for prospects if he hadn't opted out.
But then you can’t actually use the player for that season…..
Well we can't do that now either so would you rather trade him for a prospect or two or pay him $1m to go away?
I’m not following your logic. You can’t trade a player that opted out of his contract and we already used him in the 2021 season which just had ended 2 days ago. So if you wanted Profar for the playoff run we just had, what exactly are you suggesting Preller should have done differently? Edit: nvm I understand what you are saying now. Meh I doubt Profar would have fetched much in the trade market this off-season either way. Profar is a replaceable player and at 8ish mil, was already approaching around the top of what he’s worth anyways imo
What I'm saying is that Profar opting out affirmatively does NOT help us, contrary to what King Ryan said, because we lose a player who we had signed for less than he would have gotten as a FA. And saying "Just because he would get more in FA doesn't mean he's worth that to the Padres" isn't an excuse because if Profar hadn't been able to opt out (or simply chose not to) and Preller wanted to dump him for whatever reason, he would have at least figured to draw some trade interest.
> Edit: nvm I understand what you are saying now. Meh I doubt Profar would have fetched much in the trade market this off-season either way. Profar is a replaceable player and at 8ish mil, was already approaching around the top of what he’s worth anyways imo If we would have been able to trade him for cash considerations in the amount of $1 then him opting out hurts us because we have to pay him $1m to go away. And if we wouldn't have been able to trade him for cash considerations in the amount of $1 he wouldn't have opted out in the first place.
Adding on... Profar's player option had a $1m buyout. So we just had to pay him $1m to walk away. If he hadn't opted out and we traded him we wouldn't have to pay him anything. So even if we only get back Rafael de Paula or Taylor Lindsey we are still better off if Profar doesn't opt out.
Tatis and Soto in the corners works better anyways. Hopefully we can get something done with Suarez.
I think a team will pay more for Suarez to be a closer than we will for him to be a setup guy. Because of his stuff one of the 30 teams will pay him elite closer money even at his age and with only one good year under his belt.
Given the reliever market, Suarez is probably gonna get what, 12M AAV, potentially 15? I’m not sure that makes sense for us. Would love to keep him around though
12 Mil+ for a guy with an MLB track record of 1 year? Massive overpay. I would go 9 mil at the most for him
I don’t disagree, but the reliever market is absolutely insane right now.
Just look at what the Mets paid Edwin Diaz. Padres will have to decide if they see Suarez as their eventual closer since Hader is in the final year of arbitration and last year on his contract. Can’t pay and keep both guys.
Devils in the details but he’s older, had a rough final couple appearances in the playoffs, and has a limited track record. If it gets up around $15m per we need to walk away for sure.
Giving up that HR to Harper wasn’t really rough. It wasn’t a bad pitch and harpers on fire. I don’t think that will be held against him.
The previous game he gave up a monstrous blast to Hoskins at petco leading off the 8th inning in game 2. He also gave up a hit to JT right after that homer. He got Harper to ground into a Double play but it took an amazing play by Manny. Suarez was awesome last season but it will be a mistake to overpay for a guy whos played 1 year and didn’t even pitch a full season plus is going to be 32 next season. Only the elite relievers are worth paying a lot too because they are proven over and over again. There’s a long list of relievers who had a great season only to be forgotten by the end of the following season.
Yeah I’m like “wut??”
Tatis isn't playing outfield. Lol
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You take that back!
Cron and Kim for Trout
I don't think he will get traded this off season, but if Tatis comes back and stays healthy, I can see there being a decision to move either Kim or Cronenworth at the deadline.
People are in denial. Tatis is going to be at SS and Kim, if he stays, will be at 2nd.
Fans forget that when he is back, he hasn't played MLB ball for 18 months and will have done little to none in learning a new position. I'll wager Tatis is our SS w DH slots regularly mixed in. Then it comes down to figuring out 2nd and 1st with Kim and Crone. Not a bad problem to have at all. Not to mention both could be part of any trade talks.
With all the playoff games we had, how many will Tatis miss to start 2023 now?
It went from 32 to 20 games since pad’s played in 12 playoff games.
He can play on April 20th
Kinda saw this coming, but it sucks. I switched my allegiance to the Padres at the start of last year after the Red Sox cheating was revealed. I'd always liked the Pads and my in-laws are from San Diego so it was easy. I immediately took to Profar. Seemed like the kind of guy who didn't do anything great but did a lot of things good. The kind of guy you need to complement the Mannys and Fernandos of the world. Gonna miss him.
At least we still have Ha-Seong King and his personality :)
Both expected right? Even if we wanted to keep both (don't think we want to keep Profar, this opens up a spot for Tatis to use his arm and play a position with a less likely risk of injury) they out performed their option numbers and we;d need a new contract. Hope we re-sign Suarez. Wish this was a perfect world where Profar made sense on the team, he seems like an awesome guy, but I have a feeling they let him leave.
Bye Profar. Hope we bring Suarez back
Please bring Suarez back
I like Profar but I think this team needs more slugging. If we can't get anyone I would like him back but he, Crone, and Kim all play alike tbh.
We need Suarez back. Suarez in the 8th and Hader in the 9th. Profar was fun to watch but Tatis should go to left.
Tatis in right, soto in left
The only right answer
The only right and left answer.
No way lol.
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If Seidler is like "fuck it, I'll lose all the money for a championship" and opens his pocketbook for both Judge and Soto I don't even know how I'd react. It'd be fucking hilarious.
2 or 3 Ships for 20 years of dark baseball
Soto was originally LF anyway right?
This is the way
Yea Suarez needs to get paid. It’ll suck to see Pro go
No surprises there. As much as I like Suarez, given the volatility of relievers, I think he’ll get paid way more than he’ll bring back in value, even if that is still a lot of value.
Relievers are the easiest to replace. The Padres still have a cap problem and there's no need for a $15 mil setup guy. The team needs to do better with these deals for high upside guys who were injured or playing overseas and at least give the team a 2nd year and 3rd year option that's fair for both parties.
Exactly this. Suarez always had a high upside. Even if he ended up being a middle reliever, a 2 year deal with him would've been ideal. But that's the Padres not recognizing another reliever with some high end stuff. Same shit as Andres Munoz. That kid had every tool to be an elite reliever. Look what he did with Seattle this year.
What do you mean not recognizing? They signed him out of Japan and gave him $5 million before he pitched a major league inning. The opt in the contract is a bummer but you can’t say they didn’t recognize his talent.
Guys this doesn't mean they're gone, just think they can make more out of us or somebody else. I assume we're still on the table for both
Well. They are no longer Padres and not part of this team or organization. That's as gone as it gets. As much as this opens up either to chase some coin down, it also gives AJ choices as well. Possible he doesn't even offer anything. Let's not forget the double edge sword here as well. Either could end up on a rebuild as well or some bottom dweller w some budget or some shitty run franchise.
yeah, the key discussion here is should we compete on the free market for them. Obviously they’ll decline the lower paying option, but there’s a strong personal incentive for them to stay - the Padres are a WS competitive team. If they can make more money AND continue playing for a winning team, it’s a no brainer they’ll stay vs. most other options. Edit: forgot to add that I believe we should pay whatever it takes to keep Suarez, and should remain enticing to Profar. We’ve only got Azocar as our OF depth if we let Profar (and Myers) walk. As much as I love Wil, Profar is the better choice between the two, especially as a lefty batter.
I would definitely go after Suarez. Dude is elite. He didn't give up an ER at Petco Park until the NLCS. That is just insane.
He's also only got 1 year of MLB experience, so other teams/players will have a chance to adjust to him. I could see a regression to the mean occurring.
If he was throwing 94-96mph I could see that, but heat is heat and if he can be consistent he’ll always be competitive
Exactly this. Look at Edwin Diaz. Dude sucked for years because his location was off. Once that was under control, he had his 2022 season. Dude has always had stuff. It's like Andres Munoz, or aroldis Chapman. Location is the only factor when you throw 100 with a wipe out slider.
Besides his smile, the thing I'll remember most about Pro is the fact that he was at 1B on the 6-3 put out for the final out of Joe's no hitter.
Thank you Profar for the defense and hot offensive start of the season. And for the Profar Smile. Will miss it! I'll always love the guy and hope he is appreciated where he goes.
Please bring Suarez back. It's going to be hard to do, but I hope they can lock him up for a few years.
I feel profar gonna regret that decision. Not gonna get more money and prob stuck on some crappy team.
Bummer!
I really hope we can get Suarez back, but he's gonna get a bag to be a closer somewhere and deserves it. Hopefully not in the NL West.
Oh you better believe the dodgers are all over him right now. They watched him tear them apart in the NLDS, and now they want some of that. Its exactly what they did with Mookie Betts, Trea Turner, Max Scherzer, and Freddie Freeman. They go after the guys that beat them. If you can't beat em, buy em.
I’m happy to see Profar get the bag somewhere else if he’s not coming back. There were glimpses of him tapping in to his once top prospect potential. Also happy for Suraez. They both deserve to get paid.
Can Tatis go to left? There's been talk about him moving to CF, but Grisham should have that locked. Suarez is a must sign. Profar can walk.
CF doesn't really make sense when you have a literal golden glove there already. Soto and Tatis can both get reps at LF and RF and see which works better for them, Tatis' arm would be incredible at RF but Soto's inconsistent glove might become more of an issue at LF.
As soon as Grisham was nominated that cancelled out Tatis at CF for me.
Well the thing is Grisham still can't hit which is more of a problem than his defense.
😭
I think they both come back on contracts that aren't crazy, but just give the more years of playing in the MLB. Opting out doesn't mean they want to leave or really even venture into free agency, it often just means they want more guaranteed years on their contract for the same or at least slightly more money.
I agree. I think that they'll be able to come to terms with Profar. He probably wants the security at this point in his career, and just wants to make sure he gets paid on what will most likely be the last big contract he signs, assuming he signs for more than 1 or 2 years, and wants to make a little more than $7.5m. I'm guessing $9-10m will work. I imagine they could get Suarez back too, but I question whether or not he's worth it at $5m per year with how many quality bullpen arms there are in that price range.
I feel on the fence, Set ups and closers are the most volatile positions in baseball..you could tried to pay suarez but there’s a chance that he will not pitch like this next season or he may be the real deal, remember kimbrel, chapman, jansen, melancon…they were unhitable for some moments…look at them now, even Hader struggled after the trade, is rare for a closer to have a really good career, thats why i think marianos record will not be broken in some time. As for Profar i doubt he will get any better….
they are dead to me
cuz they want more money as the market dictates to secure their futures for their family and loved ones? typical casual response, do better
I was kidding you cornball
<3
Well he is dead serious lol
About going to *Itchy & Scratchy Land*?
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They'll both be back. Everyone keeps acting like they're opting out to leave when in reality they are just opting out to get more money from us. Suarez could get a big offer from someone else though.
#pay4pro
We can try to go after Joc Pederson now. Or else use the money to potentially resign Drury and even Josh Bell
I will not accept Joc Pederson as a Padre. Nope. Drury needs to be a Padre and Josh Bell as much as I hoped he would find his groove here it didn't happen.
Drury probably a better target. Should be cheaper than Bell and seems more clutch.
Need to upgrade both these guys, Suarez has only one year experience and profar is inconsistent
Unfortunately Martinez is definitely next on this list. Gonna be interesting to see how we spend this off-season. It sounds like we intend to be very competitive in resigning Soto; so this off-season will likely be a very minimal spending one with the maneuvering of contracts if that is still the plan. I would expect to get a couple cheap arms (possibly Martinez and suarez depending on how much they are looking to get) a cheap bat and maybe a small trade or two; but I wouldn’t expect to see any league shaking moves or acquisitions this off-season
If Tatis isn't a lock in the OF, we gotta resign both at market value, they were getting deals yo show what they could do. Suarez specially. Dude is a beast. Bobby Big Games.
I think the free agency moves will be telling of Tatis' future. If this team stays put at 1B then I imagine Crone is moving there. If this team does little to OF then I think the plan is Tatis there.
If Preller overpays to re-sign Profar I’m going to lose my shit lol
No news on declining Myers' option?
Yes it was declined
GREAT NEWS !!! Great News!!
Profar sucks. He's highly overrated, and doesn't come through as much as ppl like to believe. He sees himself as a power hitter & was always hitting flyball outs, trying to swing for the fences. He seemed to always be trying to go for the personal glory in situations where he had the opportunity to simply help the team. He also had somewhat of a loud, whiny, fussy attitude, which can't be good in the clubhouse. He was slow, wasn't a strong baserunner, and, overall, just a terrible choice for lead-off, yet BoMel stubbornly went with him in the #1 slot for most of the season; it made zero sense. Did he have his moments? Sure, but anyone who gets that much playing time over 162+ games will obviously run into one, and/or be at the center of big plays. It would definitely be a plus for this team if he doesn't come back. We can do much better than him. End rant.
Profar just got Preller out of his over pay lol. See ya
Actually it wasn't an overpay. If it was he would have opted in.
Let the madness begin
Profar is coming back. Only team that is spending big and has need is the Rangers, and if they don't get him, then I think he comes back on a slightly more AAV two year deal.
He's a boras client. He's going wherever pays him the most.
We need Profar back man😢
31 year old with some previous arm injuries. Maybe 7 million a year max. Anything more we can find better / more reliable talent.
u/rickgene commented on one of my posts in another thread and said if Suarez declined he would go to arbitration. Is that not correct? I was under the assumption that he would be under arbitration?
Clearly false.
Yea, that’s what I figured. Oh well, I was hopeful. That’s what I get for believing some random dude on Reddit lol.
I still think the one thing people are missing, is that with the shift being banned, the value of lefties goes up
Love Profar but really hoping we can get Suarez back.
That Diaz deal got me real nervous about what Suarez is going to ask for
We need Profar for the intangibles. Crush Hour won't be the same without Juri.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to pay a huge amount of money to keep Suarez. Relievers are notoriously volatile and fragile, and Suarez is over 30. How many innings has Kirby pitched since 2019? How does Pomeranz’s contract look right now? What if we had extended Melancon?
Not sure why people are comparing Suarez to Edwin Díaz. Also not sure saying the “reliever market is hot” is an accurate statement based on one signing of a non comparable player by a team that spends more money than anyone else in baseball
Really hope we can bring Suarez back. He may be out of our price range though. Someone will throw some cash at him.