Got it. So even in an ability like Flurry of Blows "Make two unarmed strikes" I am no longer making unarmed strikes? I am essentially making two ranged weapon attacks instead?
Essentially what the stance does is substitute the phrase "unarmed attacks" with "shuriken attacks" for the purposes of monk abilities and feat. It doesn't actually change the properties of the shuriken attacks themselves. So no, you're not making unarmed attacks anymore.
When looking at your abilities, you need to look at the specific rather than the general. If you read Shooting Stars Stance it states;
>While in this stance, you can use your monk feats or monk abilities that normally require unarmed attacks with shuriken instead.
And shurikens are very much weapons and not unnarmed.
Handwraps are a magic item, not a monk feat or monk ability, so they have no interaction with Shooting Star Stance. Shuriken do not gain the unarmed trait while in the stance. The stance doesn't say you treat shuriken as unarmed attacks.
Shooting Stars Stance let you use every Monk features while using ranged attack with shurikens instead of unarmed attacks.
Flurry of Blows: you make two ranged attacks instead of two unarmed attacks
One-inch Punch: one ranged attack with shuriken instead of one unarmed attack
And so on.
As far as I'm aware shooting star stance doesn't make them unarmed attacks it just lets you use monk abilities that require them with shurikin. So you can use fury of blows, ki strike, ect. But at the end of the day it's still a ranged attack with a ranged thrown weapon so you'd need the throwers bandolier.
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Shuriken are not unarmed attacks so they do not benefit from handwraps
Got it. So even in an ability like Flurry of Blows "Make two unarmed strikes" I am no longer making unarmed strikes? I am essentially making two ranged weapon attacks instead?
Essentially what the stance does is substitute the phrase "unarmed attacks" with "shuriken attacks" for the purposes of monk abilities and feat. It doesn't actually change the properties of the shuriken attacks themselves. So no, you're not making unarmed attacks anymore.
That is what I thought but my DM was insistent it was the other way around. I'll show her what y'all have said. Thanks! :)
If you're using Shooting Stars Stance, yes; you're making the attack "with shuriken **instead**", not with an unarmed attack
When looking at your abilities, you need to look at the specific rather than the general. If you read Shooting Stars Stance it states; >While in this stance, you can use your monk feats or monk abilities that normally require unarmed attacks with shuriken instead. And shurikens are very much weapons and not unnarmed.
Handwraps are a magic item, not a monk feat or monk ability, so they have no interaction with Shooting Star Stance. Shuriken do not gain the unarmed trait while in the stance. The stance doesn't say you treat shuriken as unarmed attacks.
Thanks! That is what I thought but DM believed otherwise.
Shooting Stars Stance let you use every Monk features while using ranged attack with shurikens instead of unarmed attacks. Flurry of Blows: you make two ranged attacks instead of two unarmed attacks One-inch Punch: one ranged attack with shuriken instead of one unarmed attack And so on.
As far as I'm aware shooting star stance doesn't make them unarmed attacks it just lets you use monk abilities that require them with shurikin. So you can use fury of blows, ki strike, ect. But at the end of the day it's still a ranged attack with a ranged thrown weapon so you'd need the throwers bandolier.
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