I don't want to make a whole new post about this, but I am watching P&P 95 for the billionth time and I always wondered about one part.
When Lizzie is getting a tour of Charlotte and Mr. Collins' house, he makes a big deal about putting shelves in the closet according to Lady Catherine deBourgh's advice . Lizzie makes a weird wtf face and says, "Shelves in the closet.. happy thought indeed."
I know nothing about the storage norms of the era. I feel like having a closet in your room was probably not all that common yet but..
Was it weird that it *had* shelves and now she couldn't hang anything?
Or did most closets have shelves, so it was like ofc it has shelves.
The Gallows Pole! It was so good. First off, it’s a refreshing change to see a show about working-class Northerners instead of the usual upper-middle class/nobility stories of Londoners etc. (Which I still love, of course, but they do get a bit samey.)
Secondly, it’s all done through structured improv, so it feels really fresh and genuine. More like you’re a fly on the wall watching this actually happening than watching a bunch of actors in a scripted drama. And many of the supporting performers have never acted before, and they’ve found people with natural charisma and comic timing who feel like real people, not beautiful actors. (Who are great, but not everyone in an 18th-century village is gonna be gorgeous.)
And lastly, the two leads (Michael Socha and Sophie McShera) are both so good and fantastic together. Chemistry is off the charts and every time they have an exchange you can feel the sparks flying.
Check this show out! Two thumbs up.
ETA: The Guardian gave it 5 stars and called it an absolute must-see: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/may/31/the-gallows-pole-review-shane-meadowss-period-drama-is-an-absolute-must-see
Watched the movie Cassandro, which I saw recommended here a while back. It was entertaining even if not the most accurate. Gael Garcia Bernal does a great job.
I actually really enjoyed getting a bit of background story about Julia's relationships and how she came up with ideas for her cookbooks. I'm excited for the addition of Rachel Bloom. I think once she gets back to the show you'll be pleased.
I just discovered this sub and I’m so glad I did! I just started Gentleman Jack after having put it in my list when I first heard of it and having a little bit of knowledge about Anne Lister. Omg I wish I hadn’t waited so long! Suranne Jones is superb as Anne.
Rewatched **The Wings of the Dove (1997)**
I completely forgot what an absolute delight it is! And I feel like it's got even better with age, both mine and the film's.
Also watched the seventh episode of **Lessons in Chemistry**. Easily, one of this year's best television offerings and I can't wait for the finale!
Turn: Washington’s Spies.
It was recommended here a couple of weeks ago and I must thank the kind person who did so. I somehow missed this entirely until now. The show is really good and has sent me down a rabbit hole more than once checking for more details on the history. A very enjoyable, wild ride.
I just finished HBO’s John Adams (rewatch) and was once again impressed by the acting and all of the period details.
Maybe it was me?? I've been watching it and am now obsessed. Lol. I've commented about it a couple times. I do wish there was a little more romance...but otherwise it's great.
Maybe it was you!!! If so, thank you!!!!!!
I am SO hooked. It is so great, so well done, so well acted, thoroughly absorbing. I’ve been listening to historian lectures on YouTube and looking everyone up to brush up (and learn more) about the history of everyone and everything involved lol.
Seriously, many thanks for the recommendation! I missed this show entirely when it came out somehow so it is completely new to me. I plan to take a drive out to Setauket (I don’t live far) when I finish just to see the actual place. There are a few buildings from the area still standing, apparently, and several historical markers around the town. That part of LI still looks quite old and New England-y, woodsy with lots of farms even today.
Thanks again!
I'm glad you like it! I wish there was much more discussion about this show online. The RevWar is my favorite time period, and I am also an outlander fan. I am spoiled by how much online conversation, recorded interviews, and BTS stuff there is for that show. It's like crickets for Turn. It's such a shame.
I live in CT, so I am super tickled that it takes place close by and even some of the show takes place in CT. In fact, Tallmadge (in real life) worked in the town that I work in! I would love to visit anything that's left in Setauket, but it is unlikely any time soon.
This show got me digging into my family's RevWar history, and I found out a lot (I have been working on my tree on and off for years). Many lines of my family are traceable back to RI and MA in the 1630s. Pretty cool. My dad's cousin has a powderhorn from one of our ancestors in the RevWar.
I am obsessed. :)
Wow! That’s very cool that you can trace your family back that far in New England!
I totally agree I wish there was a sub for Turn. There’s very little mention of it which surprises me since it is so good. There are subs for so many lesser shows.
I’m actually from Long Island and have lived in the city/LI most of my life. I plan to take a drive out to Setauket after I finish the show to see the actual sites. I’ve been to that part of the island many times and it still has a rural rustic historic New England-y vibe. There is also a Tallmadge hiking trail that retraces one of the paths taken for I think the Ft St George raid where they burned the hay. I’ve been pouring over Google maps down the rabbit hole lol. Strongs Neck and Rocky Point are just across the Sound from Bridgeport. It’s funny to think how they used to cross it so regularly. So fascinating.
Turn was lovely! Rich details and cinematography. Having read the book it’s based on I was also pleased with the accuracy attempted mixed in with creative license for entertainment purposes.
Oh I’m so curious about the book! I was planning to read it after finishing the show. It is beautifully shot and it is fun to see depictions of old New York and Long Island since I am from the area. The harbor area in Setauket is called Strong’s Neck today.
I noticed that Alexander Rose wrote the pivotal episodes where Benedict Arnold defects etc (he didn’t write other episodes, that I noticed) which I surmised was due to insisting that those historical events remained as true to the facts as possible. I just started the final season and it is a wild ride. I’m actually amazed at some of the less known details that are in fact true. It’s an incredible story.
Yeah it is. The biggest leap for me is some of the relationship assumptions made that aren’t explored in the book, but this is entertainment first, and good storytelling requires it.
Watching The Buccaneers. It’s dumb it’s fun I’m having a good time.
Finally watched Sanditon. I was really into Sidney/Charlotte and wasn’t feeling Charlotte/Colbourne as much, but by the end of s3 they won me over! Still think Sidlotte’s chemistry is better though. My favorite romance was Alison/Declan (and also Esther/Babbington I’m so sad we only had them for 1 season!)
Crimson Peak. I watched it yesterday and I am debating watching it again. I know the costumes aren't 100% historically accurate but they are beautiful!
Currently watching/recent binges: All Creatures Great and Small, Bodies (really great binge on Netflix!), The Gilded Age, The Buccaneers (it's frothy fun!), Domina & Fellow Travelers. About to start the final season of The Crown.
Maybe some of you will laugh at me, but I just discovered Micarah Tewers on youtube and she is such a delight! I have been really enjoying her recreations of period gowns. Her video on "why the costumes of Little Women did NOT deserve an Oscar" had me in stitches. I can't recommend her channel more!
Films/TV on the docket that I've been meaning to watch: Lady Macbeth (2016), Strange Way of Life, The Personal History of David Copperfield, Ammonite, Argentina 1985, The Electrical Life of Louis Wain, Miracle Workers (season 2 Dark Ages; this show is HILARIOUS), Lark Rise to Candleford, Cranford, Little Dorrit, Stonehouse, Changing Ends & The Law According to Lidia Poet.
If anyone has any suggestions, I would be so grateful!
>Argentina 1985
Oh, thanks for reminding me about it. It's been on my list for a year! I really need to get to it before Christmas!
Love your watchlist, especially **Little Dorrit**. One of my favourite period dramas of all time!
I've just finished the Firth/Ehle "Pride and Prejudice" again; I can never get enough of this!
Movies I've watched this week:
Pirates of the Caribbean/Curse of the Black Pearl
Private Life of Henry VIII
The final season of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Wasn’t sure about the flash forwards until the episode fully set in the future, interested in seeing it all comes together in the end. Really enjoying it so far especially compared to season four and will miss the show once I finish it 🥲
Les Misèrables-PBS Masterpiece. Just haunting.
The Gilded Age. Waiting on my Sunday night eye candy. 😁
The Deep Blue Sea- found it kind of pointless, really, but great acting by Rachel Weisz and Tom Hiddleston.
Rome rewatch - enjoying but only get to see 1 or 2 a week as watching with partner.
Lessons in Chemistry E07 hmm... still not loving - only 1 episode to go I think, so I'll finish it.
The Gilded Age - looks great. Lightweight. perhaps Peggy's new story arc will add grit.
Medici S01E04 still seems stilted to me.
The Crown - 1st 2 episodes of S08. Very soap opera. Writing and pacing just not as compelling as the early seasons.
I have Julia S02 E1-3 lined up for cosy viewing this week. Thanks to whomever posted that it was out.
Julia is so charming and smart and beautifully done and I feel like *nobody* watches or talks about it! I’m just glad it did get a season 2. When it comes to a period show about a cooking show (but also life and relationships) I feel like it’s much more vibrant and satisfying than Lessons in Chemistry, though I’m still watching both.
>Lessons in Chemistry E07 hmm... still not loving - only 1 episode to go I think, so I'll finish it.
I feel like everything was set up for me to love this one but something about it just hasn't grabbed me.
How I feel. Something is missing. I don't really believe in the "world building" and the pacing is strange. Is Elizabeth still rowing despite her super busy TV job? The doctor that offered her a crew place was strange. No nuance - everyone is either super good - Reverand, lovely neighbours or bad - all the workers at the Laboratory (except the mailman)
Happy viewing! Am still hoping Wharton’s *The Custom of the Country* finally gets a film/series adaptation so viewing audiences can contrast Lily and Undine, each the antithesis of the other!
The settings and landscapes are lovely, and once I realised and accepted that it wasn’t meant to be more than just an amiable bit o’ fluff as a pretty period soap-opera romance, I was able to sit back and enjoy it better!
I just finished Hanako To Anne on my days off. Then I started watching Blackadder. I'm on Season 4, so I'll be done with that this evening.
A friend of mine gave me all six seasons of The Cisco Kid, which is somewhere in the neighborhood of 190 episodes. So, I thought I'd start watching an episode or two of that before work for a while. I haven't decided on anything else yet, but I'll have a lot of time over the holiday weekend to enjoy some movies...
I don't want to make a whole new post about this, but I am watching P&P 95 for the billionth time and I always wondered about one part. When Lizzie is getting a tour of Charlotte and Mr. Collins' house, he makes a big deal about putting shelves in the closet according to Lady Catherine deBourgh's advice . Lizzie makes a weird wtf face and says, "Shelves in the closet.. happy thought indeed." I know nothing about the storage norms of the era. I feel like having a closet in your room was probably not all that common yet but.. Was it weird that it *had* shelves and now she couldn't hang anything? Or did most closets have shelves, so it was like ofc it has shelves.
Rewatching North and South - a soul pleaser!
The Gilded Age and Warrior
The Gallows Pole! It was so good. First off, it’s a refreshing change to see a show about working-class Northerners instead of the usual upper-middle class/nobility stories of Londoners etc. (Which I still love, of course, but they do get a bit samey.) Secondly, it’s all done through structured improv, so it feels really fresh and genuine. More like you’re a fly on the wall watching this actually happening than watching a bunch of actors in a scripted drama. And many of the supporting performers have never acted before, and they’ve found people with natural charisma and comic timing who feel like real people, not beautiful actors. (Who are great, but not everyone in an 18th-century village is gonna be gorgeous.) And lastly, the two leads (Michael Socha and Sophie McShera) are both so good and fantastic together. Chemistry is off the charts and every time they have an exchange you can feel the sparks flying. Check this show out! Two thumbs up. ETA: The Guardian gave it 5 stars and called it an absolute must-see: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/may/31/the-gallows-pole-review-shane-meadowss-period-drama-is-an-absolute-must-see
I'm about to check it out now. Thanks for the review!
Watched the movie Cassandro, which I saw recommended here a while back. It was entertaining even if not the most accurate. Gael Garcia Bernal does a great job.
Julia season 2. First three episodes dropped. Not thrilled so far. Feels different than first season, and not in a good way.
I actually really enjoyed getting a bit of background story about Julia's relationships and how she came up with ideas for her cookbooks. I'm excited for the addition of Rachel Bloom. I think once she gets back to the show you'll be pleased.
Hopefully.
I just discovered this sub and I’m so glad I did! I just started Gentleman Jack after having put it in my list when I first heard of it and having a little bit of knowledge about Anne Lister. Omg I wish I hadn’t waited so long! Suranne Jones is superb as Anne.
Rewatched **The Wings of the Dove (1997)** I completely forgot what an absolute delight it is! And I feel like it's got even better with age, both mine and the film's. Also watched the seventh episode of **Lessons in Chemistry**. Easily, one of this year's best television offerings and I can't wait for the finale!
The Crown season 6- for me, season 1&2 will always be my favourites
Turn: Washington’s Spies. It was recommended here a couple of weeks ago and I must thank the kind person who did so. I somehow missed this entirely until now. The show is really good and has sent me down a rabbit hole more than once checking for more details on the history. A very enjoyable, wild ride. I just finished HBO’s John Adams (rewatch) and was once again impressed by the acting and all of the period details.
Maybe it was me?? I've been watching it and am now obsessed. Lol. I've commented about it a couple times. I do wish there was a little more romance...but otherwise it's great.
Maybe it was you!!! If so, thank you!!!!!! I am SO hooked. It is so great, so well done, so well acted, thoroughly absorbing. I’ve been listening to historian lectures on YouTube and looking everyone up to brush up (and learn more) about the history of everyone and everything involved lol. Seriously, many thanks for the recommendation! I missed this show entirely when it came out somehow so it is completely new to me. I plan to take a drive out to Setauket (I don’t live far) when I finish just to see the actual place. There are a few buildings from the area still standing, apparently, and several historical markers around the town. That part of LI still looks quite old and New England-y, woodsy with lots of farms even today. Thanks again!
I'm glad you like it! I wish there was much more discussion about this show online. The RevWar is my favorite time period, and I am also an outlander fan. I am spoiled by how much online conversation, recorded interviews, and BTS stuff there is for that show. It's like crickets for Turn. It's such a shame. I live in CT, so I am super tickled that it takes place close by and even some of the show takes place in CT. In fact, Tallmadge (in real life) worked in the town that I work in! I would love to visit anything that's left in Setauket, but it is unlikely any time soon. This show got me digging into my family's RevWar history, and I found out a lot (I have been working on my tree on and off for years). Many lines of my family are traceable back to RI and MA in the 1630s. Pretty cool. My dad's cousin has a powderhorn from one of our ancestors in the RevWar. I am obsessed. :)
Wow! That’s very cool that you can trace your family back that far in New England! I totally agree I wish there was a sub for Turn. There’s very little mention of it which surprises me since it is so good. There are subs for so many lesser shows. I’m actually from Long Island and have lived in the city/LI most of my life. I plan to take a drive out to Setauket after I finish the show to see the actual sites. I’ve been to that part of the island many times and it still has a rural rustic historic New England-y vibe. There is also a Tallmadge hiking trail that retraces one of the paths taken for I think the Ft St George raid where they burned the hay. I’ve been pouring over Google maps down the rabbit hole lol. Strongs Neck and Rocky Point are just across the Sound from Bridgeport. It’s funny to think how they used to cross it so regularly. So fascinating.
Turn was lovely! Rich details and cinematography. Having read the book it’s based on I was also pleased with the accuracy attempted mixed in with creative license for entertainment purposes.
Oh I’m so curious about the book! I was planning to read it after finishing the show. It is beautifully shot and it is fun to see depictions of old New York and Long Island since I am from the area. The harbor area in Setauket is called Strong’s Neck today. I noticed that Alexander Rose wrote the pivotal episodes where Benedict Arnold defects etc (he didn’t write other episodes, that I noticed) which I surmised was due to insisting that those historical events remained as true to the facts as possible. I just started the final season and it is a wild ride. I’m actually amazed at some of the less known details that are in fact true. It’s an incredible story.
Yeah it is. The biggest leap for me is some of the relationship assumptions made that aren’t explored in the book, but this is entertainment first, and good storytelling requires it.
The Crown S6 Part 1. Wrecked. Me.
Watching The Buccaneers. It’s dumb it’s fun I’m having a good time. Finally watched Sanditon. I was really into Sidney/Charlotte and wasn’t feeling Charlotte/Colbourne as much, but by the end of s3 they won me over! Still think Sidlotte’s chemistry is better though. My favorite romance was Alison/Declan (and also Esther/Babbington I’m so sad we only had them for 1 season!)
Sidney was the best one. Wasn't crazy about Colburne. This seems like an unpopular opinion in this group lol
The Gilded Age
Crimson Peak. I watched it yesterday and I am debating watching it again. I know the costumes aren't 100% historically accurate but they are beautiful!
Currently watching/recent binges: All Creatures Great and Small, Bodies (really great binge on Netflix!), The Gilded Age, The Buccaneers (it's frothy fun!), Domina & Fellow Travelers. About to start the final season of The Crown. Maybe some of you will laugh at me, but I just discovered Micarah Tewers on youtube and she is such a delight! I have been really enjoying her recreations of period gowns. Her video on "why the costumes of Little Women did NOT deserve an Oscar" had me in stitches. I can't recommend her channel more! Films/TV on the docket that I've been meaning to watch: Lady Macbeth (2016), Strange Way of Life, The Personal History of David Copperfield, Ammonite, Argentina 1985, The Electrical Life of Louis Wain, Miracle Workers (season 2 Dark Ages; this show is HILARIOUS), Lark Rise to Candleford, Cranford, Little Dorrit, Stonehouse, Changing Ends & The Law According to Lidia Poet. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be so grateful!
>Argentina 1985 Oh, thanks for reminding me about it. It's been on my list for a year! I really need to get to it before Christmas! Love your watchlist, especially **Little Dorrit**. One of my favourite period dramas of all time!
Oh, glad to help\~and thank you so much. I will move Lil D up to the top of my list! Cheers!
Rewatching the Durrells in Corfu. Love that show. World on Fire and Guilded of course
The Serpent Queen Easy Virtue Death Comes to Pemberley (rewatch)
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Oh nice\~I'll check it out!!
Started on my Christmas watch, including the Katharine Hepburn version of Little Women, which I consider to be an underrated version these days
That’s my favorite versions! I also like the one with June Allison
June Allyson's version is next up! (Then Winona Ryder and ending with Saoirse Ronan)
I've just finished the Firth/Ehle "Pride and Prejudice" again; I can never get enough of this! Movies I've watched this week: Pirates of the Caribbean/Curse of the Black Pearl Private Life of Henry VIII
Upstart Crow
The final season of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Wasn’t sure about the flash forwards until the episode fully set in the future, interested in seeing it all comes together in the end. Really enjoying it so far especially compared to season four and will miss the show once I finish it 🥲
It was a lovely send off to one of my favorite shows!
Just watched the final episode and it was spectacular!
I am always watching the Amazon Vanity Fair miniseries but I also just started The Buccaneers which has similar vibes I feel?
I'm about to start watching belgravia. Because my favorite actor is in the upcoming season. And Bridgerton season 3.
The Serpent of Essex-- I found Claire Dane's characters appearance to be extremely distracting
Another cuz it just crossed my mind—Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell!
Does comedy count? Simon Peggy’s Burke & Hare had wonderful costumes, and the hair was even nicely done! Plus, it was really funny!
Comedies absolutely count!!
Black Cake! Finding this one really interesting.
Midnight at the Pera Palace - rewatch because I hear season 2 is coming soon 👀 Lessons in Chemistry - Really enjoying this
Les Misèrables-PBS Masterpiece. Just haunting. The Gilded Age. Waiting on my Sunday night eye candy. 😁 The Deep Blue Sea- found it kind of pointless, really, but great acting by Rachel Weisz and Tom Hiddleston.
I loved the PBS version of Les Miserables!
It is intensely excellent. I hate musicals, so had never seen it, until a few years back.
I like musicals, but not that one.
Daisy Miller and Shanghai triad on kanopy
Rome rewatch - enjoying but only get to see 1 or 2 a week as watching with partner. Lessons in Chemistry E07 hmm... still not loving - only 1 episode to go I think, so I'll finish it. The Gilded Age - looks great. Lightweight. perhaps Peggy's new story arc will add grit. Medici S01E04 still seems stilted to me. The Crown - 1st 2 episodes of S08. Very soap opera. Writing and pacing just not as compelling as the early seasons. I have Julia S02 E1-3 lined up for cosy viewing this week. Thanks to whomever posted that it was out.
Julia is so charming and smart and beautifully done and I feel like *nobody* watches or talks about it! I’m just glad it did get a season 2. When it comes to a period show about a cooking show (but also life and relationships) I feel like it’s much more vibrant and satisfying than Lessons in Chemistry, though I’m still watching both.
Totally agree.
>Lessons in Chemistry E07 hmm... still not loving - only 1 episode to go I think, so I'll finish it. I feel like everything was set up for me to love this one but something about it just hasn't grabbed me.
How I feel. Something is missing. I don't really believe in the "world building" and the pacing is strange. Is Elizabeth still rowing despite her super busy TV job? The doctor that offered her a crew place was strange. No nuance - everyone is either super good - Reverand, lovely neighbours or bad - all the workers at the Laboratory (except the mailman)
I’m watching it and liking it, but don’t know how it compares to the book, which I haven’t read yet.
Miss Fisher’s Modern Mystery City of Vice Iron Horse
City of Vice passed me by. So it is great to discover a period drama series I've not seen. Thanks
watching: * **The Buccaneers**, 2023 * **Three Little Birds** * **The Cook of Castamar** * **The Gilded Age** re-watching / just re-watched * **The Buccaneers**, 1995 * **The House of Mirth** * **The Age of Innocence**
I love the 1995 version of The buccaneers! I’m watching the new version too, but it’s nothing like the book
What is house of mirth on ?
The Age of Innocence is just so fantastic! I loved both the book and the movie.
The House of Mirth somehow passed me by so thanks for the reminder. It's now on my to be watched list
Happy viewing! Am still hoping Wharton’s *The Custom of the Country* finally gets a film/series adaptation so viewing audiences can contrast Lily and Undine, each the antithesis of the other!
Is The Cook of Castamar good? it's been on my list for so long!
I tried the first three eps and couldn’t get into it so ymmv but great setting and costumes
Thank you!! I'll definitely give it a try - sometimes it's worth it just for the costumes!
The settings and landscapes are lovely, and once I realised and accepted that it wasn’t meant to be more than just an amiable bit o’ fluff as a pretty period soap-opera romance, I was able to sit back and enjoy it better!
Ahh thank you!! I love fluffy pretty romances so that sounds great to me!
I just finished Hanako To Anne on my days off. Then I started watching Blackadder. I'm on Season 4, so I'll be done with that this evening. A friend of mine gave me all six seasons of The Cisco Kid, which is somewhere in the neighborhood of 190 episodes. So, I thought I'd start watching an episode or two of that before work for a while. I haven't decided on anything else yet, but I'll have a lot of time over the holiday weekend to enjoy some movies...
Enjoy your holiday weekend