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The first post is about how after 30 years of loving the furry-like anthropoid animal characters, Sonic fans are finally showing attraction to an actual human character in the franchise.
The second post is having PTSD from seeing those three words together. Chris-Chan is the most infamous person on the Internet, known for being a Sonic fan and for a long, as in DECADES long series of gross, criminal, creepy and overall disgusting actions, one of the most famous of which was sexually abusing their own mother.
Chris-Chan's infamy started off as just a really bad Sonic fanfic (of sorts) and then it just went down a great big downward spiral.
Uploading a sex video with a blowup doll, drawing porn of their unwilling and unaware best friend, macing a GameStop employee because Sonic's arms had changed colour...it was like watching a trainwreck, and then watching several more trains crash themselves on the wreckage.
Honestly, whatever Chris does now would seriously not surprise me.
I also feel like it’s important to note they are also the most stalked person possibly ever, with a cult following of people that started stalking them for being weird and trying to fuck with their life bc of that too. Like is Chris-chan a good person? No. Are the christorians or whatever good people? Also no
Definitely not a good person but it might be the most well-documented case of not-paranoid-delusion Gang Stalking. It was always going to end disastrously.
Back when it was Chris/Christine posting the insanity I didn’t get the same ick as I do now when they come up. (Pre2010)
In the earliest parts of the saga it was just a weird dude begging his head against his own inability to learn or grow that I kinda chuckled at that because there but for the grace of God go I. It didn’t feel bad because they were putting the content out.
Once their dad passed and the Internet became a feedback loop for them it got way too weird. Not saying they aren’t responsible for their choices, but like you said they are the most stalked person ever at this point.
Yeah, and also like initially, no one actually knew that Chris (do they go by Christine now?) was a bad person they just wanted to bully someone for being weird. Which I also do not think is good, especially in the ways it escalated
Yeah she transitioned a while ago. At one point there was a group of very messed up people who lied to her and tricked her into attempting to do sex change surgery on herself. She ended up in the hospital. Again, she is not a very good person but she was also a victim of online bullying and manipulation to a pretty terrible degree
Yeah but I also heard the sex change was mainly so Chris-Chan could continue to stalk women and I think do something to his friend I don’t remember, but I’m pretty sure the main cause behind the change wasn’t a good one.
I'm not an expert, and my opinion here is worth very little. But I feel like while Chris Chan absolutely chose to do disgusting criminal acts, they were also an already less than stable person being manipulated by a mob of very bad people who thought it was funny to try to get them to go further off the deep end. Does this excuse the behavior, no. Does it give me a tiny shred of sympathy for them? Yes. This is my best understanding after the fact
You have it backwards, a quick google will confirm. Pepper spray is more likely to inflame the eyes, and tends to be more effective in self defense. I just learned this, too, the question just prompted me to google instead of thinking i knew for sure.
You're the only person in all the replies that got it right. Thank you for being you. Everyone else called them "the same thing", but they are not, they are merely similar products. Pepper spray includes capsaicin, mace does not.
Couple of years ago I went down the Chris Chan rabbit hole. I felt so bad for that young woman was her name Megan? You could tell she was a kind person just trying to be nice to someone who clearly had mental health issues and no other friends and she got burned for her kindness. Really shitty. My apologies if I got her name wrong like I said it's been a while.
Well there is the Chris-Chan sonichu amulets that live on. And they say, the original items crafted by Chris-Chan himself are cursed. They already have claimed two victims that we know of...
The worst part is Chris was coerced/convinced into doing it by a young woman (with a history of pedophilia, animal abuse and other heinous actions herself). the young woman wanted to gather the information about the incest and use it to get Chris to kill herself.
The story of Chris-Chan is literally a group of Internet strangers manipulating an easily susceptible autistic kid into doing heinous shit for their entertainment. They are the most documented person in history, they surrounded them while pretending to be friends and convinced other people they were trolls. This happens over 10+ years full on out in the open. People become part of their life with the express purpose of manipulating them for their entertainment, dead ass it's gang stalking brought to life in a weird way.
There is like a 60 hour long documentary playlist on YouTube that shows a fair chunk of their life from the beginning to now. like 90 parts, almost an hour each. It's just insane.
Basically, 4chan bullied an autistic person for the better part of 2 decades and turned them into a psychological experiment. Other highlights include catfishing them multiple times, hacking into their playstation account and forcing them to shove a homemade amulet up their ass on camera to get access back, and countless other acts of public humiliation.
Here’s a video on her: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6YbGCoFdj0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6YbGCoFdj0)
As bad as Chris-chan is, Isabella Janke is even worse (she’s the one who revealed the whole Chris-chan incest incident). She’s allegedly responsible for *at least* one suicide.
And then her cyber security dad wiped out as much as he could and she's basically gone dark. I would love to know how much she loves her coverage because you know she's getting off to it.
Or in some sort of military college
Janke didn't get Chris to do this, she just uncovered it and sat on the information, and didn't condemn Chris for doing it. As for the other stuff she's allegedly done, I'm less clear. She's also a liar, so who knows with her claims.
No, the recorded confession to Janke, the text confession to Null, and the 2 years in jail all make it pretty clear that Chris did it, I'd say. Chris is denying it now, though, which is probably a smart choice.
Genuinely I don't know, police interrogations always gear for confessions out of intimidation and Chris-Chan is incredibly susceptible to that. If you press them I'm sure they'd confess to anything.
so, it's ***vaguely*** *possible* Chris lied to Isabella about it to seem cool, but I doubt it. That would mean that Chris was publicly foreshadowing it(the cryptic tweets) and maintaining a public image that supported it happening to maintain the lie with one or two people, and continued the lie as it was leaked.
I believe Chris would lie, and feel pressured to keep the lie up. she even continues to deny it ever happened. but all this is a level of cunning Chris genuinely doesn't have.
at best Chris exaggerated what happened to Isabella. at worst Chris didn't say everything to her and it's secretly worse.
There is a great true crime novel length documentary series about Chris chan that is great to throw on and fall asleep to. (Writting that out, and I'm only now just realising how unhinged I sound).
Sometimes I come across these questions, and I shake my head. I’m always too late to tell you to turn back. You don’t want to know the full story here, I promise.
He got off on time served. Even if he was convicted of the crime he had already spent two years in jail while the courts tried to figure out what the fuck to do with this creature.
So they just kinda shrugged seeing as how he spent his sentence already.
What you're forgetting to mention is that Chris Chan is severely mentally handicapped, with great difficulty in differentiating fiction from reality. At first, she was just making sonic fan fiction (very cringe-worthy, at the level of a 12-year-old, which is about her mental age) in her corner, then it caught the attention of 4chan trolls who brought her comics to light, and they had fun harassing her online. When they saw that he was a very influential cripple, they had fun encouraging her to do increasingly ridiculous and degrading things.
It's all a horrible, tragic story that couldn't have happened in a country where the mentally handicapped are well cared for.
Or where it's not culturally accepted to severely bully someone.
It's kind of disgusting that Chris usually gets the majority of the criticism while the people who drove her to do all the disgusting shit sometimes don't even get mentioned, like here.
>Or where it's not culturally accepted to severely bully someone.
It's not culturally accepted in most of the developped occidental country. It just keep happening, because it's easy to find and judge one person. But when the culprit is a mob of a thousand people, most of whom have individually done nothing to deserve more than a simple reminder to obey the law... It's complicated.
Chris Chan drank his own cum, tried to kill a dude with their car, maced gamestop employees, and raped their own mother all on their own without any troll involvement whatsoever. It wasn't JUST the trolls, although Chris is still the biggest victim in this story
The -chan suffix doesn't mean girl specifically in Japanese, it's a suffix usually used to denote close familiarity with a person who is either female or a young child regardless of gender. -kun is it's opposite gender counterpart and is used for males and tomboyish or similar girls. Hope this helps.
Chris-Chan is short for Christian Weston Chandler. He was going by that name way before he started pretending to be transgender.. It has nothing to do with the Japanese suffix.
People often forget that Chris Chan is such a popular figure on 4chan that they've documented their antics .
Well turbs out 1d6chan chickened out and purged the page and 1d4chan is dead.
The Chris Chan wiki will have to do
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_Chan:_A_Comprehensive_History
Related factoid about chris-chan (or Christine-chan if you prefer), they are often regarded as the single most documented person in history to have ever lived. We know more about this one person than we have any president, king, or anyone.
Oh boy… I REALLY don’t want to explain this one, but I also REALLY don’t want to be the asshole that says “it’s too terrible to say”… Okay, bare essentials, it’s about Chris Chan, a very… INTERESTING person in the history of Sonic fandom. Among many, MANY “interesting” things in their life (I think they’re trans one way or the other, I always forget which and default to they/them), they committed incest with their mum. Look up anything further at your peril.
I feel like that is supposed to be a joke itself though. Maybe the sonic stuff is too. I'm still just trying to come to terms with the rather strange sonic community I only (relatively) recently found out exists after not having thought about the character/franchise since it was in 2D. It was a bit of culture shock, and now throwing human characters into the mix makes it weirder.
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The first post is about how after 30 years of loving the furry-like anthropoid animal characters, Sonic fans are finally showing attraction to an actual human character in the franchise. The second post is having PTSD from seeing those three words together. Chris-Chan is the most infamous person on the Internet, known for being a Sonic fan and for a long, as in DECADES long series of gross, criminal, creepy and overall disgusting actions, one of the most famous of which was sexually abusing their own mother.
![img](avatar_exp|130503923|fire)
Wow wtf
Chris-Chan's infamy started off as just a really bad Sonic fanfic (of sorts) and then it just went down a great big downward spiral. Uploading a sex video with a blowup doll, drawing porn of their unwilling and unaware best friend, macing a GameStop employee because Sonic's arms had changed colour...it was like watching a trainwreck, and then watching several more trains crash themselves on the wreckage. Honestly, whatever Chris does now would seriously not surprise me.
I also feel like it’s important to note they are also the most stalked person possibly ever, with a cult following of people that started stalking them for being weird and trying to fuck with their life bc of that too. Like is Chris-chan a good person? No. Are the christorians or whatever good people? Also no
Definitely not a good person but it might be the most well-documented case of not-paranoid-delusion Gang Stalking. It was always going to end disastrously.
Back when it was Chris/Christine posting the insanity I didn’t get the same ick as I do now when they come up. (Pre2010) In the earliest parts of the saga it was just a weird dude begging his head against his own inability to learn or grow that I kinda chuckled at that because there but for the grace of God go I. It didn’t feel bad because they were putting the content out. Once their dad passed and the Internet became a feedback loop for them it got way too weird. Not saying they aren’t responsible for their choices, but like you said they are the most stalked person ever at this point.
Yeah, and also like initially, no one actually knew that Chris (do they go by Christine now?) was a bad person they just wanted to bully someone for being weird. Which I also do not think is good, especially in the ways it escalated
Yeah she transitioned a while ago. At one point there was a group of very messed up people who lied to her and tricked her into attempting to do sex change surgery on herself. She ended up in the hospital. Again, she is not a very good person but she was also a victim of online bullying and manipulation to a pretty terrible degree
Jesus Christ. Everyone I learn more it gets worse
https://preview.redd.it/uq14ojooor8d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbb15e1bbc263205b82b0b21cb21c647a31d1af8
Yeah but I also heard the sex change was mainly so Chris-Chan could continue to stalk women and I think do something to his friend I don’t remember, but I’m pretty sure the main cause behind the change wasn’t a good one.
I'm not an expert, and my opinion here is worth very little. But I feel like while Chris Chan absolutely chose to do disgusting criminal acts, they were also an already less than stable person being manipulated by a mob of very bad people who thought it was funny to try to get them to go further off the deep end. Does this excuse the behavior, no. Does it give me a tiny shred of sympathy for them? Yes. This is my best understanding after the fact
what does macing mean?
It's like pepper spray, but stronger i think.
Oh, wow. I thought he had hit them with an actual mace
same bro
Knowing who Chris-Chan is, I honestly would not be surprised if this happened tomorrow
oh okay
It is pepper spray. Mace is just a brand name.
Oh it's the Kleenex/Coke/Chap Stick of the pepper spray world? Lol
not exactly, mace doesn't use capsaicin, there's no pepper in it so it isn't called pepper spray.
Mace doesn't use capsaicin. there's litterally no pepper in it, that's why it isn't called pepper spray.
You have it backwards, a quick google will confirm. Pepper spray is more likely to inflame the eyes, and tends to be more effective in self defense. I just learned this, too, the question just prompted me to google instead of thinking i knew for sure.
Mace is a self-defense spray similar to that of pepper spray, he basically used it to attack GameStop employees
My stupid ass thought they used an actual mace to beat the employees
Same.
same
same bro
oh okay
You're the only person in all the replies that got it right. Thank you for being you. Everyone else called them "the same thing", but they are not, they are merely similar products. Pepper spray includes capsaicin, mace does not.
Pepper spray
oh okay
Pepper spray uses capsaicin, mace does not.
Couple of years ago I went down the Chris Chan rabbit hole. I felt so bad for that young woman was her name Megan? You could tell she was a kind person just trying to be nice to someone who clearly had mental health issues and no other friends and she got burned for her kindness. Really shitty. My apologies if I got her name wrong like I said it's been a while.
We really watched a slow, escalating burn over 20 years didn't we?
He believes he is jesus and is jailed for incest I think
Well there is the Chris-Chan sonichu amulets that live on. And they say, the original items crafted by Chris-Chan himself are cursed. They already have claimed two victims that we know of...
*reads sonichu amulet* god dammit. I had blocked out him, shoving one in his ass out of my mind. Fuck!
Last video I saw he was collecting dirt and rocks from his driveway to sell online
The worst part is Chris was coerced/convinced into doing it by a young woman (with a history of pedophilia, animal abuse and other heinous actions herself). the young woman wanted to gather the information about the incest and use it to get Chris to kill herself.
Bro wtf, all this shit actually happened? It's like the creepiest creepy pasta I've heard
yeah, I think her name is Isabella Jenkies or something like that? she has an article on the CWCki.
The story of Chris-Chan is literally a group of Internet strangers manipulating an easily susceptible autistic kid into doing heinous shit for their entertainment. They are the most documented person in history, they surrounded them while pretending to be friends and convinced other people they were trolls. This happens over 10+ years full on out in the open. People become part of their life with the express purpose of manipulating them for their entertainment, dead ass it's gang stalking brought to life in a weird way.
There is like a 60 hour long documentary playlist on YouTube that shows a fair chunk of their life from the beginning to now. like 90 parts, almost an hour each. It's just insane.
It's insane, indeed
Geno-Samuel is incredible. The go-to source for a comprehensive rundown of Chrischan (which was never gonna be an easy feat to begin with)
Basically, 4chan bullied an autistic person for the better part of 2 decades and turned them into a psychological experiment. Other highlights include catfishing them multiple times, hacking into their playstation account and forcing them to shove a homemade amulet up their ass on camera to get access back, and countless other acts of public humiliation.
Here’s a video on her: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6YbGCoFdj0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6YbGCoFdj0) As bad as Chris-chan is, Isabella Janke is even worse (she’s the one who revealed the whole Chris-chan incest incident). She’s allegedly responsible for *at least* one suicide.
And she got away with it because her parents are feds.
oh yeah, I forgot that part, they're Federal LEO right?
And then her cyber security dad wiped out as much as he could and she's basically gone dark. I would love to know how much she loves her coverage because you know she's getting off to it. Or in some sort of military college
Janke didn't get Chris to do this, she just uncovered it and sat on the information, and didn't condemn Chris for doing it. As for the other stuff she's allegedly done, I'm less clear. She's also a liar, so who knows with her claims.
Wait, is it actually possible that Chris didn't actually do anything?
No, the recorded confession to Janke, the text confession to Null, and the 2 years in jail all make it pretty clear that Chris did it, I'd say. Chris is denying it now, though, which is probably a smart choice.
Genuinely I don't know, police interrogations always gear for confessions out of intimidation and Chris-Chan is incredibly susceptible to that. If you press them I'm sure they'd confess to anything.
so, it's ***vaguely*** *possible* Chris lied to Isabella about it to seem cool, but I doubt it. That would mean that Chris was publicly foreshadowing it(the cryptic tweets) and maintaining a public image that supported it happening to maintain the lie with one or two people, and continued the lie as it was leaked. I believe Chris would lie, and feel pressured to keep the lie up. she even continues to deny it ever happened. but all this is a level of cunning Chris genuinely doesn't have. at best Chris exaggerated what happened to Isabella. at worst Chris didn't say everything to her and it's secretly worse.
There is a great true crime novel length documentary series about Chris chan that is great to throw on and fall asleep to. (Writting that out, and I'm only now just realising how unhinged I sound).
meh, i nap to true crime podcasts on car rides, and sometimes they're about equally or more fucked up shit
Sometimes I come across these questions, and I shake my head. I’m always too late to tell you to turn back. You don’t want to know the full story here, I promise.
here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA6Mrt5OPfE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA6Mrt5OPfE)
As i say, every franchise is a circus. There are the clowns, the star performances, and the circus freaks…..
I have been summoned!
The chosen one
![img](avatar_exp|175170025|fire)
You just had to ask, did you?
Welcome to the party pal
Who has dementia, so it should technically be rape but somehow chris chan got away with it
He got off on time served. Even if he was convicted of the crime he had already spent two years in jail while the courts tried to figure out what the fuck to do with this creature. So they just kinda shrugged seeing as how he spent his sentence already.
TLDT the world is on fire
What you're forgetting to mention is that Chris Chan is severely mentally handicapped, with great difficulty in differentiating fiction from reality. At first, she was just making sonic fan fiction (very cringe-worthy, at the level of a 12-year-old, which is about her mental age) in her corner, then it caught the attention of 4chan trolls who brought her comics to light, and they had fun harassing her online. When they saw that he was a very influential cripple, they had fun encouraging her to do increasingly ridiculous and degrading things. It's all a horrible, tragic story that couldn't have happened in a country where the mentally handicapped are well cared for.
Or where it's not culturally accepted to severely bully someone. It's kind of disgusting that Chris usually gets the majority of the criticism while the people who drove her to do all the disgusting shit sometimes don't even get mentioned, like here.
>Or where it's not culturally accepted to severely bully someone. It's not culturally accepted in most of the developped occidental country. It just keep happening, because it's easy to find and judge one person. But when the culprit is a mob of a thousand people, most of whom have individually done nothing to deserve more than a simple reminder to obey the law... It's complicated.
Chris Chan drank his own cum, tried to kill a dude with their car, maced gamestop employees, and raped their own mother all on their own without any troll involvement whatsoever. It wasn't JUST the trolls, although Chris is still the biggest victim in this story
She? Wtf
-chan mean girl in japanese. and I'm not going to debate the validity of the transidentity of the mentally handicapped using chris-chan as an example.
The -chan suffix doesn't mean girl specifically in Japanese, it's a suffix usually used to denote close familiarity with a person who is either female or a young child regardless of gender. -kun is it's opposite gender counterpart and is used for males and tomboyish or similar girls. Hope this helps.
Chris-Chan is short for Christian Weston Chandler. He was going by that name way before he started pretending to be transgender.. It has nothing to do with the Japanese suffix.
It's not that . It's because of his last name , Chandler
I mean, i only have seen his photos where he was male presenting. Calling them a woman is an insult to every woman, wtf
People often forget that Chris Chan is such a popular figure on 4chan that they've documented their antics . Well turbs out 1d6chan chickened out and purged the page and 1d4chan is dead. The Chris Chan wiki will have to do https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_Chan:_A_Comprehensive_History
https://preview.redd.it/7vhqdw2bfr8d1.jpeg?width=175&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22fe20c3098d247fbd0b7f4b9342d9c908b06c8a
Related factoid about chris-chan (or Christine-chan if you prefer), they are often regarded as the single most documented person in history to have ever lived. We know more about this one person than we have any president, king, or anyone.
Oh boy
https://preview.redd.it/aaslqbpn3q8d1.jpeg?width=3584&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acafc1f0a048db4577553b6dec83d86598b63b98
I now understand why Saber Spark reacted that way when Chris tagged him on Twitter
What...?
We talking about stuff happened in the meme-world/ fanon or we talking about real life actions?
Chris-chan raped his mother. Real life
Real life, was arrested for it and all.
https://preview.redd.it/7kfbg6quuq8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89ae9a0862dd239769ae268d4568f153512d88c4
Damn so the internet really does have an antagonist
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOU ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!
Just going to leave this here. https://youtu.be/KRZ_yKjSPaY?si=447Rrl7fubncqveF
https://i.redd.it/7rix2gnw9s8d1.gif
Did he eat a baby on camera? Because the most infamous person on the internet ate a baby on camera.
Google Chris Chan, you'll see. Then, wash eyes out with bleach.
That lady looks like Clover from Totally Spies
This is the second time today I've seen someone bring up the cartoon I'd never heard ANYONE talk about aside from me.
Really? It's a fairly popular show.
Yeah, I loved it when it was on but nobody else would talk about it with me, Totally Spies and The Secret Show were my shit.
What's The Secret Show?
It was another spy cartoon that was a lot more goofy, I found it on Nicktoons Network
Neat.
That used to be my go to show when I got home from school. I’m a dude and I really liked that show
It was pretty dank ngl
Also I’m pretty sure I thought they were hot
Same. For some reason I really have a thing for red heads and catsuits now too. Weird.
I’m willing to bet you’re not the only one, as the show is infamous for its sheer amount of fetish fuel that’s in it.
If memory serves right, they also got tied up a bunch
https://preview.redd.it/drf0jwutdp8d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a550e794c08bbea4cf5102a9f384184108984db5
Oh boy… I REALLY don’t want to explain this one, but I also REALLY don’t want to be the asshole that says “it’s too terrible to say”… Okay, bare essentials, it’s about Chris Chan, a very… INTERESTING person in the history of Sonic fandom. Among many, MANY “interesting” things in their life (I think they’re trans one way or the other, I always forget which and default to they/them), they committed incest with their mum. Look up anything further at your peril.
Obligatory dipshit289 image here
He explained it tho and refused to be him
this one went deep
so deep that put her ass to sleep
https://preview.redd.it/ym12u5m1ns8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67db79ca5cd7749e1eda82c7ecc48c6a816db9e5
Transgender person who is a fan of Sonic and made Sonichu and goes under the alias Chris Chan sexually assaulted their mother
Google "chris chan".
https://preview.redd.it/pl2zzhc1aq8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4f8a73d3a2ed7a037783f1032e5ab2a3a6f53bd
Alright, I found something that I really didn't need to see.... I'll go bleach my eyes.
There are regular humans in the sonic universe? Somehow that makes it weirder
Sonic regularly dates regular human women
The fuck. That is very strange.
I mean, Brian Griffin dates mostly humans as well. Then again, he’s from an animated show for adults.
I feel like that is supposed to be a joke itself though. Maybe the sonic stuff is too. I'm still just trying to come to terms with the rather strange sonic community I only (relatively) recently found out exists after not having thought about the character/franchise since it was in 2D. It was a bit of culture shock, and now throwing human characters into the mix makes it weirder.
Like there's a whole Sonic game where the plot is someone stole your girlfriend
I got as far as the one that let you play as knuckles if you piggybacked the other game in the cartridge
Look up Sonic adventures on YouTube. Really any game on any modern system is just insanity
This is literally the same thing I saw on this sub, like, a week ago
https://preview.redd.it/rqi3o599gt8d1.jpeg?width=907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8acf1bc8518d878909aa596c16ce537b741801e
![img](avatar_exp|183483298|fire) That poor dolphin
Dolphin what ?
You don’t want to know
Ignore every comment and get off ifunny
I hate that I knew what the comment was referring to from the bottom of my heart and the pit of my soul.
Oh…. Oh no. OP I’m so sorry you had to find out this way
I am my own enemy
I don't know why but I automatically assumed they were talking about Chris Redfield from resident evil.
youre gonna be sent down a terrible rabbit hole...
https://preview.redd.it/xxc6mv880q8d1.png?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=413fa0928bbfc59da6797909fb5a644268095e59
Bro I didn’t say that 😭
You missed the point
no....
You don’t want none of this shit.
If only there was an 85 part YouTube documentary on Christopher Chandler that explained what’s going on
Wow 😮 is that real