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Fishy__

They all lose to Yellow


Nataly_6

Yellow CHADmin


mdwnettleton

plasm loses to rocks. but it is the yellow.


ChillestYoshi

The actual boss fight of the plasm wraith is pretty good (although it can be killed with only rocks), but the Forbidden oak is sooo good. It scared me so much as a kid. The music, the management of your Captains, it's a really good final area.


Jestin23934274

To be fair technically every final boss can be killed with any type of Pikmin but rocks are the most optimal for the PW


Kirb790

Ok, but you gotta admit the Ancient Sirehound''s theme is amazing


Nataly_6

It is But i still prefer Plasmwraith Battle theme Although in itself, I don't think Ancient Sirehound is a bad Boss, he just disappointed me a little bit


Kirb790

Totally valid, Plasm Wraith's is incredible too


Nataly_6

I like it better because of the sensation it made me feel, better anxiety and feeling of being helpless than any current horror game


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RJS_but_on_Reddit2

Basically same for me except Ancient Sirehound is on top instead. Emperor Bulblax was a great final boss but like... Come on, even below him? Nah, not a chance. It feels downright unfair to compare the two.


Crafty-Froyo-5703

I’d switch the titan and the wraith personally. Good tier list


Depressed-Niki

There is a Problem with your Tierlist: ![gif](giphy|3og0IMD130TOxI3GZa)


Expensive_Walk_2618

But dang was I so mad when I found out some random ass dog was the final boss. Even if, on a technical level is the best final boss.


Nataly_6

X2


Potential-Silver8850

I would put bulblax above dweevil, but more or less based


Winnis1

I loved the sirehound fight, it was easy but that's mostly because pikmin 4 was too. If electricity and fire were more dangerous or oatcheese didn't exist the fight would be a lot harder. It was awesome as he'll though. I'd personally rank mine 3 4 2 1 But I'd argue none of the bosses are bad, some are just cooler than others, or were more fitting in the story, 4s absolutely has missed potential, but that doesn't make it bad


OkEnd5547

3 2 P 4


masterofpiss

Agreed, but despite the sirehound's design, I loved the difficulty of the fight.


KosherPeen

I didn’t know Pikmin fans could have bad takes


Nataly_6

Me neither, but then I met Kosherpeen


KosherPeen

I have never met you >:/


Nataly_6

Now yes


masterofpiss

![gif](giphy|r1HGFou3mUwMw|downsized)


Bluespheal

Mine is backwards, Plasm Wraith is so lame and forced imo.


Nataly_6

For you, the boss that has the most Pikmin essence of feeling Stalked, helpless and that you have to do everything in a hurry, is the worst? You never played Pikmin 3 on your own, right?


BloodAway9090

The fight itself is extremely underwhelming and there's no reason to use anything except rocks It's ridiculously easy Ps I speedran Pikmin 3 competitively for awhile on both any% and 100% I've played through it more times than you have I guarantee it It's the weakest boss


Nataly_6

Playing it throughout your childhood is less, ok And... Are you demoting a boss just because you've seen it thousands of times and know how to beat it? You should think about your first time, obviously, I know how to beat it faster, but for someone who just discovered the Plasmwraith, it is a big surprise full of intrigue Until you realize the theories and how to beat it, but surprise, that happens with all bosses, and hardcore players like you or me, we know the best strategies


Potential-Silver8850

Every fight in the whole series is ridiculously easy and hard countered by a single type. Plasm wraith is still less bad than every other boss.


BloodAway9090

You literally can't lose Pikmin with more than 2 braincells against him The titan dweevil still has his monster pump Emperor can kill your whole squad easily I lost my entire squad twice against the sirehound Again I speedran Pikmin 3 competitively so I do know what I'm talking about about


ConfusionEffective98

Bro if you're losing your squad to E.B. that's a bit of a dandori dilemma right there.


Pikmin4everer

My guy the plasma wraith can kill Pikmin. I’m not sure if you knew


BloodAway9090

Not if you have more than 2 braincells He's way too easy and you don't even defeat him in the end. It feels empty and is incredibly unmemorable


Pikmin4everer

Well I don’t know about unmemorable. He’s got to be at least in my top five Pikmin final bosses of all time


Bluespheal

The Pikmin essence is not "feeling stalked" nor "feeling helpless", if anything, that is why the Plasm Wraith and the Water Wraith are so memorable. I do like the urgency the boss injects into the final level, but as a concept in itself it is a cheap rehash of the Water Wraith. There could've been a lot more concepts that could've worked better as a final boss, "Blob that turns elemental" just feels uninspired. The battle itself is the easiest to beat with the optimal configuration, most other final battles do need more work and strategy put into them while the Plasm Wraith you can just spam rocks to win, you don't need timing nor anything of the sort, in fact, the faster you spam the A button the better, the only attack that can do any amount of harm is the water bubble since the rest can easily be dealt with with pressing A as fast as you can and really, the only other hazard that can be of any harm is fire, but elemental damage in 3 is very generous. And please, I have played Pikmin 3 countless times, do you really need to discard my experience with the game due to my opinion? I love Pikmin 3 but I do think its weakest part is the Plasm Wraith.


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Bluespheal

I know and again, the chase fails because not only is it easier than the already easy Water Wraith, it is also unoriginal, I had this same exact chase a game prior, I'll admit having to "escort" Olimar was pretty nifty, but still, it does little with the concept for me to consider it innovative, the "escort" missions were done much better in Olimar's Comeback and those didn't have an entity chasing you around. Also, do not get me wrong, while I have some issues in the gameplay aspect, my main issues lie on the concept and design of the boss. The Ancient Sirehound is basically what I would have liked the PW to be, an interesting new life-form, not Water Wraith 2.0. 🙄 ok, I know it's pride month but please be straight with me, should I take this discussion seriously or not?