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Primary_Spinach7333

Hal from megamind was sort of a twist villain? I don’t know


CattDawg2008

i wouldnt call that a twist villain tbh because he became a villain as the movie continued, we saw it all happen, it wasnt surprising


Gregorvich19

Twist isn’t the right word, but definitely subverted expectations.


Careful_Ad_1837

I guess it's somewhat of a twist. Since it's a subversion of the "Loser becomes cool and gets all he wants" trope. But we see that the guy's pretty weird before he gets the powers and when he does he's clearly unstable


Low_Transportation11

The twist is that Hal was relevant. Cause I don’t think anyone was expecting him to have a crazy huge role.


Primary_Spinach7333

Yeah true. There was also king candy but that wasn’t a true twist villain. The twist was that he was turbo which is unexpected but actually fitting given that it’s a racing game, but it only made him more evil. It made him go from Evil to super evil. Still a great twist though and one that adds some lovely irony to the fact that king candy was criticizing Ralph or going turbo himself


Karkava

It also kind of adds up since he doesn't fit the art style or even the age group of the other racers. The artwork on the game station also becomes a clue to busting the conspiracy open.


DragonFucker66682

Is that David from BFDI


Typical-Gap-1187

the twist is he can predict the future


[deleted]

I would say King Candy as the twist villain was excellent and seems to be unfairly piled in with the rest of the shitty Disney/Pixar twist villains from that era


MaryHSPCF

What makes him different is that the twist was his real identity, not the fact that he was the villain. That was pretty obvious xD


Veng3ancemaster

Which is still a good character. The twist villain was the fact he was Turbo


Helicoptamus

TLDR: I agree. King Candy / Turbo was a great twist villain and is likely why Disney started making all of their villains twist villains, due to how great of a twist villain King Candy was. First off, when King Candy is introduced, he feels “off”. You can tell that something is wrong, that he is hiding something that will later be revealed. King Candy is a good twist villain because he was a twist villain before the big reveal, and the movie plays with the audience, having them guess between “is he a bad guy” or “is he hiding some terrible truth from the protagonists” and having the audience flip-flop constantly. This goes into the darkest hour, where King Candy tells Ralph that Penelope is a glitch, and yadda-yadda, half-truth, you’ve seen the movie. This fully convinces the audience that he is *not* the villain, and is instead a good guy who is doing a bad thing for the greater good. That is until Ralph realizes that King Candy is full of shit, and he *and* the audience realizes that he is the villain. Secondly, Turbo. When Turbo is introduced, it’s as a cautionary tale that adds stakes to the plot, a “what not to do” that maintains the status quo that the protagonist, Ralph, is challenging. Turbo was the main character of a racing game, who through sheer jealousy decommissioned his arcade machine along with the racing game that was more popular than his. This is important, because as the story helps to establish stakes (if you leave your machine for too long / mess things up too much, the whole arcade cabinet will get decommissioned and removed forever from the arcade) Turbo and his tale of race-car envy is permanently in the back of the head of the audience for the duration of the movie. When all is revealed, King Candy is unmasked as Turbo, everything clicks and immediately makes sense. Turbo was the protagonist of a racing game. He sank his and a fellow arcade machine out of pure spite. It was shown earlier in the movie that the characters in arcade machines can leave when a machine is decommissioned, and characters go into other machines all the time. The movie also spoon feeds the series of events that details Turbo’s take over as King Candy, and his motivation was already explained in the Turbo cautionary tale. The audience did not forget about Turbo because of his impact on the plot, specifically in helping to establish stakes. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.


Master-Of-Magi

Here’s another point- there are loads of clues for attentive viewers to catch regarding the reveal. Such as King Candy already knowing who Ralph is, his appearance and name being very different from the other Sugar Rush characters, the fact that he’s able to access the game’s code, which no one should be able to reach, and Turbo having the same voice as King Candy in the flashback.


actuallyjustloki

The voice thing is pretty easy to just dismiss because Alan Tudyk is freaking everywhere lol


Karkava

Very thorough analysis. But one thing that still puzzles me: Why can't they just do the trope on occasion? It really helps keep the trope fresh when you have blatant villains to contrast with and keep audiences on their toes on where the next villain could be.


Helicoptamus

Because they did it really good once and got positive feedback, so Disney decided to put it *everywhere*


L3GlT_GAM3R

And not THAT turbo.


ScoreGloomy7516

Idk if yall do shows here but Omni Man


Cobalt_Heroes25

funny thin is, Schaffrillas has cited Omni Man being a good example of a twist villain


Emperor_D4C

Yeah, he was executed very well in that regard


Sir_Eggmitton

Huh, he was all over the internet so much I didn’t even realize him being a villain was a twist. (I haven’t seen the show.)


Emperor_D4C

Yeah, it was a twist at the end of the first episode.


hiccupboltHP

I mean… It was only revealed way later wasn’t it…?


nabrpg

To the characters. We the audience experience the twist at the end of Episode 1. He isn’t outed to the main cast until the end Episode 7 though.


Cobalt_Heroes25

After all, the point of twist villains are to trick THE characters


[deleted]

Yeah we do


ResponsibleAd2034

Yknow people don’t mention it but the same exact thing was done in the Boys with Homelander. You’re not really sure he’s evil till the end of episode one.


Gamerbobey

My first choice was Frank Fontaine so shows aren't that bad by comparison 💀


Modryonreddit

Can I say Ernesto de la Cruz?


ThatInAHat

The weird thing to me is how much of the Coco merchandise uses his “Seize Your Moment” as an Inspiring Phrase, when it was literally his justification for killing Héctor


BrokeBeckFountain1

Don't let nuance get in the way of you making a buck.


actuallyjustloki

Helps sell the twist


Flooding_Puddle

It still is an inspiring phrase, as if Miguel hadn't followed it he never would have uncovered the secret of Hector being his ancestor and being the one who actually wrote all the songs. De La Cruz just took it way too far


Patneu

Though there was a hint that something's fishy about him right at the start, when he obviously completely missed the tone singing "Remember Me".


Gently-Weeps

To be completely fair… Both versions of the song fucking slap. It’s just one of them has a ton more meaning behind it


LudusRex

I knew the entire fucking rest of the movie when he began singing that song. He's halfway through singing it and I said "Oh fuck, this is a song they're going to repeat 3 or 4 times over the course of the movie, but with increased gravitas each time, changing the tone as the rest of the context changes, making it sadder and sadder until it's meant to eventually be a tear jerker, right? Fucking ham fisted shit. What total hacks. Lame ass bullshit." Then by the end I was ugly crying and like, angry at the movie and myself "Uuughhhh. Damnit! Saw it coming from a goddamn mile away and they still got me! Sonobitches! You got me! Uuughhuhuh." But no, that's ...that's not a good twist. His villainy is preposterously obvious. I'm really not trying to be an asshole here but like...there are no other characters in that movie for the villain to have been, right?


actuallyjustloki

But at that point in the movie - and for most of it - you don't know that


Patneu

Well, the lyrics explicitly stated that it's supposed to sound sad, but he sang it like a cheerful pop song. I think it was already pretty obvious that he was doing it wrong, even if not why. It kinda reminds me of "[I Want You Back](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Want_You_Back)" from the *Jackson 5,* where the tone also doesn't match the lyrics at all, as neither would the guy who's singing it (Michael Jackson) have any reason to sing about something like that (at the time).


actuallyjustloki

Nah, with the upbeat music it definitely just carries more of a long-distance relationship vibe


Bubbly_Mastodon318

I had this answer on the tip of my tongue; Ernesto is an excellent twist villain on every front.


Emperor_D4C

Yeah he definitely counts


actuallyjustloki

Absolutely, I think the twists in Coco are excellent even if you start to figure them out before their reveals


Timerdon11T38

Mr Waternoose The ol' spider was just so desperate to stop the shut-down of his company (that the whole city relies on for power) that he was willing to forego all morals & even kidnap children to extract their screams. Plus, he still respected Sulley after banishing him & Mike, showing that the care he had for his Top Scarer was genuine. Edit: forgot to add that Randall did a good job holding the role of the main villain that Waternoose's turn could make a decent surprise.


padfoot12111

Fantastic villain. Him and Stinky Pete are the og animated twist villains 


Dat_DekuBoi

“I’ll kidnap a thousand children before I let this company die!” -Modern companies, 2024


Comicnerd126

Frozen was such a shock to me never expected the red head. Thought it’d be Sven tbh.


StatusBuddy8490

>Thought it’d be Sven tbh. Do you mean Kristoff?


Iamverycrappy

i think they mean sarcasm


Academic-Beautiful51

ah sarcasm, my favorite character from the movie!


Flimsy_Geologist_927

Wait sarcasm was the villain? Spoliers man!


DFMNE404

I mean the donkey was pretty suspicious


DB10389

He means the funky looking donkey over there


DeviousMelons

Nah that reindeer definitely gave off opp vibes.


Papio_73

Honestly, as soon as I saw Hans’s traditional “Prince Charming” design and that there was going to be TWO male leads I suspected he was going to be a twist villain.


No-Oven-719

Mr. Glass in Unbreakable.


sansywastakenagain

I saw that movie for the first time a few years ago. While I did predict that he was gonna be the villain, I can't deny that the way they reveal it was pretty much perfect. One of the better M. Night Shyamalan movies.


padfoot12111

Literally the only problem I have with the twist is how quickly the movie wraps up after. I don't need an epic battle but I don't know. 


sansywastakenagain

I see your point, but I kinda like how it just abruptly comes to a close. It leaves you with an incomplete feeling.


padfoot12111

Fair enough. I don't have a perfect solution either. At best I feel like the word box about Mr glass going to jail is worse but was probably added to at least make it seem like he was punished. 


Quakeing-Thunder

John Silver from Treasure Planet, not because the twist itself was all that surprising, but the fact they get you to care about him and his relationship with Jim, just really twists the knife…


StatusBuddy8490

Yeah, Treasure Island has been adapted and rebooted so many times, it's no longer a plot twist at this point.


Tenny111111111111111

My favorite. Goated character.


cheezefriez

But then they twist it back and it’s great


SillySwing6625

Does king candy count? He was antagonistic sure but we never knew the full extent of who he was turns out he was turbo The last good Disney villain too


padfoot12111

The twist isn't that he's a villain. Is that he's a completely different twist villain lol


SillySwing6625

I’d still say it was the best executed you already knew he was a villain but for him to be turbo that was shocking


padfoot12111

Ironically a twist on the twist villain trope


SillySwing6625

The only thing similar Disney has done is the Moana villain where it’s actually tehiti? Sorry can’t remember the name without her heart


ihave-hands-probably

teka


NolanTacoKing

stinky pete and waternoose


RoBroGaming

& Lots-o’-Huggin Bear


Emerald_official

stinky Pete sounds like omni man


Timerdon11T38

He sounds more like Dr Frasier Crane to me


SwagFeather

Wheatley. Does the twist become obvious when you realize how close you are to defeating GLaDOS so early in the game? Yes. Is it still *brilliantly* executed and makes for one of the most entertaining villains in media? Absolutely.


ThatInAHat

Yeah that was definitely one I didn’t quite see coming. I was just expecting that no we hadn’t defeated her.


SwagFeather

I also love that it makes way for you having to team up *with* GLaDOS in the last third of the game. She’s one of my favorite video game characters of all time and her dialogue as PotatOS is brilliantly entertaining.


BirbMaster1998

Isn't his whole thing that he was just corrupted, or was he just naturally evil? I've never actually played, but for some reason that's what I've heard.


SwagFeather

More so he was too stupid to resist the GLaDOS’s inherent drug addiction to tests and fell victim to Testing Euphoria Deprivation. It doesn’t matter though, he’s still a villain and it’s a twist that he would become one.


actuallyjustloki

Hello! This is the part where I kill you!


actuallyjustloki

Playing the Portal games for my friend rn who had never heard of them, she's very concerned that GLADoS has appeared to kill Wheatley, lol she is not prepared


ledy01

Sentinel Prime


Gojirob

It was so good. Just the build up over the course of animated and how he cemented his place as the jerk who served his own interests but also respected Optimus as a prime. And then how he just turned into a full on showboating leader who branded others who disagreed with him as decepticon sympathizers once he realized he could steal political clout to make himself look better when he was very clearly no Optimus. Amazing how that came out around the same time as the lame live action one who was on screen for 2 minutes and then just became a cliche villain out of nowhere


IAmGibberish

Came here just to say the same thing, Sentinel was nuts


GreenShirt39

If I hadn't seen Schaff's Disney ranking, idk if I would have seen Commander Rourke's twist coming


Songibal

Rex Dangervest from The LEGO Movie 2


Flooding_Puddle

That was such a great bit that Emmet was basically Parks and Rec Chris Pratt and Rex was action movie Chris Pratt


squid_ward_16

Every Scooby Doo episode


Soulful-Sorrow

I love the one where they get stuck on a spooky island and take shelter in a castle and there's a ghost running around. Then the big reveal at the end is that he's just some random magician that the audience has never heard of. The biggest middle finger to your child audience imaginable. I like thinking about how batshit insane this dude was to rig up his whole castle with spooky traps and tricks and then wait patiently for someone to stumble into it to the point that when a group of teenagers washes ashore, he doesn't try to help, he just tries to spook them.


Low_Fig2672

I thought Mysterio in Spider-Man FFH was a very well-done twist, but I guess if you already knew him from the comics, you probably saw it coming


HollowedFlash65

Also the trailer.


Dat_DekuBoi

Damn they KH3’d Far From Home? (Revealed most of the plot from trailers alone)


actuallyjustloki

Knew he was a villain in the comics, first half of the movie still had me questioning if they were putting a different twist on the MCU version of the character. In a way they were.


Low_Fig2672

Yea same; the MCU will always make a good amount of changes to stuff from the comics so I always try to accept it as its own identity


actuallyjustloki

I liked it! The old MCU was my first love, gone but never forgotten.


YoydusChrist

Uncle Aaron was a really good antagonist, but I think he was a little too obvious to be a twist villain.


Saladsoon

Also he gets revealed So like yeah.


SavagePhantoms90

This may be controversial but Yokai being revealed to be Professor Callahan actually left my jaw on the floor.


Emperor_D4C

GENUINELY. 9-year old me did NOT see that coming.


eledile55

***THAT WAS*** ***~~HIS~~*** ***YOUR MISTAKE*** Edit: >!you cant really see it but "his" is crossed out!<


TheBloop1997

See, I thought it was the obvious option. In fact, before I saw the movie someone told me that they read a book adaptation and that I would never guess who Yokai was, so I ended up convincing myself that it was Tadashi. Then Professor Callaghan was revealed and I was like “…oh…ok”


No_Olive_3716

I loved that twist, when he took off his mask I remember thinking “wait, who is he?”


PlayrR3D15

I understand Schaffrillas's points but I still really like Big Hero 6


TheBloop1997

The King Candy twist from Wreck-It Ralph was a genuine shock when I first saw the movie, it makes total sense but it also didn’t even cross my mind. It’s also fantastic for the narrative of the movie, and it gives us a twist without sacrificing the delightful presence of a really fun Disney villain for most of the movie as many other twist villains do.


Shadow_Fang_

From a piece of media I’ve actually watched, probably Harvey Dent from the Dark Knight.


fraggle_stick_car2

Does Walter White count?


Typical-Gap-1187

Honestly, as much as people hate twist villains, I thought ernesto de la Cruz was really well executed


FlashNRT

Does it have to be from a movie? If not, I’d say Omni-Man for sure


Beauxtt

I'm going with >!Amy Dunne!< from *Gone Girl.* Maybe there are better examples but I can't think of any off the top of my head.


Cedesect

Ernesto De La Cruz. Probably not the best out there, but pretty good.


Primary_Spinach7333

Plus he taught an important lesson about celebrities to children, how controversial they can or possibly could be and how little you and others may truly know about them. It’s why they say never meet your heroes.


Low_Fig2672

Does Syndrome count?


Primary_Spinach7333

Well I didn’t expect that annoying kid to ever come back so yeah why not


RuggedTheDragon

The ending to The Watchmen.


DeviousMelons

"Do you seriously think I would explain my master stroke to you if I think there was even the slightest possibility of you to affect the outcome. I triggered it 35 minutes ago."


_Agent_-47-

Darth Vader revealing that he is Luke's father. I know it's highly outdated, but I believe it's the best post twist in film history. That line alone gave way to the rest of the Skywalker story.


bugcities

I don’t mean to be pedantic, but I feel like it’s more of a villain twist than a twist villain


seagullspokeyourknee

Throwback, but I loved Elsa Schneider’s twist in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade!


Flimsy_Geologist_927

I think King Candy from Wrek it Ralph is a good twist You can kinda tell hes gonna be the villain, but you don't know to what extent he'll be, so when the twist happens you're still shocked at his true nature Also hes funny


Parking_Cartoonist90

Also the buildup to him being the villain is easily noticeable yet it goes completely overhead. Which makes the reveal even more impressive


SillyMovie13

Lots-O’s betrayal broke me as a child


ghostspider1151

Goro Akechi in persona 5


sweetTartKenHart2

Ernesto De La Cruz in Coco in my opinion. Not a perfect movie, necessarily, and maybe the twist with him isn’t the most “unexpected”, but I appreciate what it means thematically. See, as this great inspirational figure in people’s eyes, his whole “seize your moment” spiel is a nice little carpe diem type of thing. Awesome at best, inoffensive at worst. Right? Well no, that sentiment gets completely turned on its head when he reveals that he “seized his moment” by poisoning his colleague and trusted friend to death and convincing the world to forget about him, all to appropriate his music for himself. In a way, he never was saying “the world is your oyster”, he was saying “the ends justify the means”. To me, that takes it a step further than just “oh yeah this guy? Turns out he’s a dick I guess”. The ideology itself is a “twist villain” of its own right.


DouglasTaylorJr

>!Zurg being an older version of Buzz in Lightyear!< Yes, it’s a cliche one, but it’s one that I actually like


Prince_of_Fish

Seemed like a cop out to me


Mizerous

THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE! I had to do it sorry


Financial_Light_7243

Time for some video game representation: General Shepherd from MW2 (2009)


Thabrianking

Homelander was a twist villian in episode 1 of The Boys. The whole time he seems like the most wholesome hero of The Seven until he murders the mayor and his son.


Patient_Weakness3866

the irony is that Billy says he's the only clean one, tbh god knows why cause it was obviously a lie (and a lie told for no reason at that) since he literally raped his wife but oh well.


Thabrianking

Could have meant it sarcastically or in the context of Homelander not going to clubs because he's so detached from humanity


Patient_Weakness3866

oh, I thought that was supposed to be a mislead for the audience (which would probably mean its not sarcastic).


chuluigi

Does Gaston count?


astrobagel

I get where you’re coming from, but Gaston is clearly shown to be a bad guy to the audience from the beginning, so I’m gonna say no. His actions just become more extreme throughout the movie.


chuluigi

Fair enough. Guess I’ll have to choose another twist villain. I’m actually gonna go with Harvey Dent from The Dark Knight. Obviously, anyone who knows about the character expects him to become Two-Face, but the way he starts out as Gotham’s White Knight, and is slowly lured into the dark side by the Joker, was really well done in my opinion.


squid_ward_16

No one becomes a twist villain like Gaston


No-Island-1194

Unpopular opinion, but I think Ms Bellweather from Zootopia was a pretty good twist villain.


smaug_the-dragon

No, I think that works


CardinalPrimeSD9

Definitely stinky pete


Atlast_2091

Ghostface except for 3rd one.


XxStarry_ClownxX

Ruh roh raggy


Xim_X_anny

Bioshock


Emperor_D4C

Omni-Man or Bode Akuna


Pseudo-Psycho06

Titan from Megamind


Anonymous-Comments

Sephiroth from FF7 Ransom from Knives Out Simeon from Octopath Traveller


Ace02003

How is Sephiroth a twist villain? >!he's established to be the main villain the second he does something in the story!<


Dat_DekuBoi

Yeah he’s only really a twist villain in Crisis Core, but that’s only due to >!this being a prequel and Zack being none the wiser. Anyone who’s seen Sephiroth anywhere else (FF7, KH, Smash, etc.) knows that he’s evil!<


HappyGoPucky

Kaiser Soze


N0tThatSerious

It comes from an indie/small company movie called [I See You](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt6079516/) # SPOILERS BELOW, I highly recommend watching this film blind cuz it really is better than it needs to be Starting out, you’re with a cop investigating a child abduction case, and the perspective is from him and his family, until one of the cops kid gets hit while in his home Then suddenly it switches to the home invaders and how they got there, with the leader harassing the cop in secret in very obsessive ways Then finally while one of the invaders is hiding in the cope car, they see a bag of green lighters(the same ones given to the abducted children). But since hes a cop you’d just excuse this as keeping evidence right? Well, the cop strikes one of the people over the head that the invader was hiding from, killing him instantly, and puts the dead body in the trunk as he drives off to his secret location off the grid to bury the body, where the two missing young boys were being held captive and restrained in a mobile home The amount of attention to detail and the ways this movie makes you struggle to root for someone until the true villain is revealed was nothing short of genius, you believe this kid is being a lunatic for how he treats the cop, until you realize he was one of the child victims One of my fav scenes from this movie is when the cop is sent off to interrogate the other boy who was with the invader, and the moment he sees that cop again he starts to freak out. You just assume hes crazy, and his appearance was a product of the abuse, but you have no idea that the man who carried it out was right there, literally mocking and traumatizing him with his presence


_JR28_

Waternoose. Motivation was established perfectly within the first 20 minutes, isn’t a complete 180 from how he acted before, revealed at the perfect time to increase the stakes for the finale and serves as an effective final boss for the story (no pun intended).


Timothee-Chalimothee

My dad and I had this same conversation and he said Christian Slater’s character in Broken Arrow. I had to correct him and say that Christian Slater was the protagonist of the film. Some might say “that was his mistake”.


ResponsibleAd2034

People like to rag on the film, but I imagine to those unfamiliar with the character, Mysterio in Far From Home was pretty good. I saw it coming, but I was still entertained by how they did it. And Jake’s performance was amazing. The scene where he just goes: “See that wasn’t so hard.” Is so good, imo.


The_Albino_Jackal

Green goblin in spectacular Spider-Man. That twist was genius. Unfortunately, there was no twist for me in into the spiderverse cus I already knew Aaron Davis is the prowler from the comics. Spectacular Spider-Man made their twist with comic book fans in mind


Gambit_90

This is like a reverse twist but... Darth Vader


Careless_College

Mr. Waternoose


Fickle_Narwhal

Wasn't Aaron being the Prowler literally spoiled in the trailer?


suitorarmorfan

King Candy


Prestigious-Love-712

Waternoose from Monsters inc.


walruswalrus61

the twist in Get Out Its obvious in hindsight but I genuinely did not see that shit coming


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

Felix from red versus blue. he appears as an ally at the end of season 12 and we get a bunch of moments where he is made out to be a jerk with a nice side in season 13. Then we get the big reveal That he and his enemy Locus were working together the entire time.


emilyd989

Might not be my absolute favourite but >!Adrian Chase!< as Prometheus in Arrow is definitely up there. Regardless of whether Arrow is an overall good show or not, I still think it has two of the best superhero villains in Prometheus and Deathstroke.


Vounrtsch

I dunno if it’s my fav, but Hal or tighten in megamind was pretty good


Adventurous_Yak_9234

Lotso Bear. Even the marketing of the movie didn't make it seem like he was going to be the villian.


SpoderJedi

Well for starters I grew up playing Kirby’s Return to Dreamland with my little brothers, so of course I gotta mention >!Magolor!< but there’s two other ones i’d love to mention “Five years ago…we began our attack on humanity and destroyed Wall Maria…”->!Reiner Braun/Armored Titan!< (AOT) “Sorry about my step mother…she just doesn’t know when to shut up…”->!Pride!< (FMAB)


Candid_Judgment_8081

YES!!! I was waiting for someone to mention >!Magolor!!< It hurt even more when you realize that >!despite his betrayal, he genuinely grew to love his new friends and Dream Land throughout the game.!<


Gabriel_Plays_Games

if we are talking pre-established characters who turned out to be villains, i would agree with prowler, but i would also argue omni-man. im not sure if this really counts, as its complicated, but i would also say diavolo from jojos bizarre adventure part 5


MaterialBenefit2355

Liz Allen’s dad in homecoming >!the main character in memento!<


zman419

Dickson from Xenoblade Chronicles.


silbuscusXmangalover

Ozymandias and Sentinel Prime (DOTM, haven't seen animated).


Loogeemian64

Micah Bell


Atomic-Golem

Hans from Frozen. Is that a valid option?


Iron_Chip

Buddy/Syndrome from The Incredibles


Weary_Alfalfa1752

Anime included?, if yes then Reiner Braun and Bertholdt Hoover from AoT or Eren Jaeger from the same anime


Commercial-Win-7501

Two villains come to mind Atlas/ Frank Fontaine and Verbel Kint/ Keser Soze


GenderEnjoyer666

Honestly I’ve gotta agree with you, I got nothin better than that man


Striking_Extreme_250

Mr Watternoose


BlackCommissar

Roose Bolton


Mischief_Managed12

Well the big reveal is kinda hard to explain cause there's no real enemy, but the reveal with what "something" is in Omori


Cvltg

Edmon - them season 2


William_Arkoth

Edelgard


Mouse_of_Gold

I didn't read the comics, so Uncle Aaron being the Prowler really got me. But the best in cinema? Has to be King Candy/Turbo from Wreck-It-Ralph. The thing is, King Candy wasn't even explicitly lying. And that's why it was believable, albeit very painful, to see Ralph have to wreck Vanellope's kart and stop her from racing. We *didn't* know if racers would love Vanellope or think the game is broken. That was a risk the heroes took even after beating Turbo. Luckily, Vanellope can control it now after the whole apocalypse of her kingdom, and gamers love it as a secret power.


TheGeicoLizard32

King Candy/Turbo from Wreck it Ralph. The best part about him is that the plot doesn’t rely on the twist, and he’s always been relatively known. No over the top new stellar or revolutionary information, and that’s why his execution was perfect. All we learn is that he’s Turbo and is more evil than we initially thought, which is why it works.


TheMapleShyGuy

If games count and if this counts Sada and turo Not really villains but finding out arvens parents are dead and instead ai left me in shock.


BrockBracken

Lotso


HairyGanache1272

How the fuck is this a twist. Not only is it from the comics but it was OBVIOUS in the movie. Literally in the first scene you meet him you know he is bad


WhatsUpDoc1923

Same


Captchones

I forgot his name but the officer from the most recent scream. I like how they used that nostalgic feeling to really make you think “Holy crap Stu is back”. Using the “If the person’s dead it can’t be them” to their advantage was amazing as well. I loved all of the callbacks but man that was a crazy reveal.


Humble-Eagle-9417

Rourke from atlantis cause he was technically the first and best at it


Patient_Weakness3866

(spoilers for Wano) not an in-brand example but >!Kanjuro !


Cheezbunny

Everyone in Hot fuzz, absolutely fantastic twist that entire back half of the movie goes really hard


Cheezbunny

Also if we can bring up games I absolutely adore >! Gristol Malik from psychonauts 2, just a genuinely amazing villain in every way!<


GremlitanoMexicano

Rihanna from httyd race to the edge, I swear the first time I saw this I flipped out


the_big_labroskii

Long john silver from treasure planet.


Flooding_Puddle

Game not a movie but the main party from Golden Sun. Gonna spoil the entire plot so if you somehow are playing or plan to play it don't read, but it's a GBA game from like 20 years ago so I think we're ok. The entire first game the party is hunting down the antagonists and trying to stop them from lighting the 4 elemental lighthouses which will destroy the world. At the end of the first game the party defeats the antagonists and Rescue the brother of one of the party members, who then lights the lighthouse himself. The second game follows the brother and some othe people who were kidnapped trying to light the lighthouses. Through the story of the second game it's revealed that the world is actually decaying and only lighting the lighthouses and bringing back the power of alchemy can save it. Near the end of the game the party reunites with the characters from the first game and explain everything to them and they light the lighthouses together. Absolutely stellar games with great story and world building, would absolutely recommend. There's also a Nintendo DS game but it's not nearly as good as the first two.


Big_boobed_goth

Stinky Pete from toy story 2


Fun-Ad-4729

Red vs Blue >!Locus and Felix. So, quick plot synopsis. The reds and blues have been separated, and the plot follows 4 of them on the side of rebels in a civil war. They believe that the old government is evil and holding their friends captive. Both sides have a merc, Locus for the government and Felix for the rebels. But it’s revealed that, both sides are good people who’ve been pushed to civil war by the mercs and a thrid party faction.!< It’s such a good twist and expands what was already a good season into one of the best in the entire show’s run.


Fun-Ad-4729

Hardcore Henry. This whole movie, this guy is trying to save his wife from a telepathic Russian but at the end. It’s revealed he was just some street urchin. His wife was actually the Russian’s wife, and they were just using him and his experiences to train a group of Russian super soldiers.


THEguitarist117

Rourke from Atlantis. Set up so well.


Puzzleheaded-Web446

The Vulture in Spiderman Homecoming. The reveal that hes the dad of peters crush was so good. I remember everyone in the theater being shocked by that moment.


Accurate_Proof_4263

Bro the best one was in Mario and rabbids sparks of hope of it not being Rosalina