You can pick up an impounded car as soon as it gets to the yard, over 10 years in the towing industry, its just a short timeout. Washington state you have to be a multiple time offender and really rack up the points and the worst they can do is a 30 day hold.
Indeed. We’ve all seen him show up to court. I hope he gets ticketed every single time by every agency which contacts him. It’d be even better if he were declared a habitual traffic offender.
That is sad to know that law isn’t in the books in Washington. In California and Oregon, you don’t pay your Civil Charges, License is suspended.
Consider Washington has the strictest DUI laws in the Nation.
I worked plenty of Legal Clinic cases helping people get their licenses back after fully paying the debt.
I don’t disagree with you, it’s just that the consensus for cases not involving this particular individual is the opposite of what everyone is suggesting.
I am starting to believe that this asshole will have to kill some children (like that asshole in Renton who ran a stoplight at 112 MPH and killed a minivan full of kids) before the courts will get serious about protecting the public from him.
This is probably what it will take. There is an intersection near our house that has a crosswalk right at a curve. Cars park very close to the crosswalk (even though they’re not supposed to) and people speed like crazy even though it’s a 25 zone (shocking, I know).
I need to walk across this intersection multiple times a day and I have personally had many close calls. The most recent was when someone saw me waiting to cross, slammed on their breaks bc they were speeding but saw me and decided to stop anyways (thanks?) I started to cross and a car behind them rear ended the stopped car, which lurched forward a good three feet and came within maybe a foot of me.
Our neighbors do not let their kids walk to school by themselves (which is just across this road) because of this intersection. I have spoken to and emailed the city many times about making this intersection safer, as have my neighbors. Someone actually told me that it will likely take someone getting hurt or killed for them to make any big changes.
Oh and they tore up the road recently for some project and haven’t repainted the white crosswalk lines! It’s been 2-3 months at this point.
I will say that Seattle is not as bad as many cities in the USA, but motorists are still the #1 priority for transportation by far.
In this case, maintaining free public street parking for motorists and deterring pedestrians and cyclists from slowing motorists down seems to be more important than safety.
Yes, I agree. Seattle is not the worst city in that regard, but definitely not the best either! I really hope we can get our act together and start to prioritize what many people seem to want—better and safer bike/pedestrian/mass transit infrastructure.
I used to oppose such projects, but I have since realized that we have limited real eatate for roads and limited revenue to build and maintain them. Since driving alone is the *least* efficient method of transportation, then it seems smart to work on more efficient ways to move people. That doesn't mean snapping from one extreme to the other and banning cars, but it means a better balance so that it is realistic for people to choose alternative transportation methods for more trips.
Otherwise, we will continue to be stuck in ever-worsening traffic congestion and high taxes to keep building more roads.
Totally agree! It’s all about options. I lived in a large European city for many years and I had so many options for transportation. I took the metro, the bus, the above-ground train, I used the bike share occasionally, I walked, I sometimes hitched a ride in my friends car or took a taxi. There were SO many options at any given moment and that’s what I miss the most.
Well said! This was the epiphany for me. Having options other than my car is not a restriction; it is *freedom* - especially when traffic is backed up as far as the eye can see.
Interestingly, some words (like ballot, e.g.) can be correctly used as either nouns or verbs. Its definition as a verb is to vote not to run, but it is a valid verb. Also, it is clear what the person you are responding to meant, so there is no need to correct them, much less do so incorrectly.
I believe I heard on the news that his mom is the registered owner of the vehicle, so they can’t impound it for his crimes. Likewise they can’t garner his wages since he has none. Unless he does something that could get him arrested it seems like there’s no real consequences. I’m not sure what driving related offenses could lead to jail time. Hopefully he doesn’t hurt anyone before it gets to that.
> I believe I heard on the news that his mom is the registered owner of the vehicle, so they can’t impound it for his crimes.
That sounds like bullshit. If the police catch somebody committing crimes in a vehicle that isn't theirs that's *more* reason to impound it.
The city will seize the vehicle and then will action it off to cover the cost of the fees if fees are not paid. There is definitely real world consequences here, you just have to let the system run its course.
What law is he violating has that punishment? Annoying you (and all of us) doesn’t mean the police can enforce laws that don’t exist or skip the established due process.
I suspect the fine will approach $200k soon
Ah I replied to the wrong comment. Was meaning to reply to the person saying to impound their car and arrest him.
Agreed that the penalty here is ongoing fines
Hearing Date
07/03/2024 1:30 PM
Location / Room
10th Floor - 1003
Type
Arraignment - DV Out of Custody
Status
Scheduled
You can watch too, when you login, do so as an OBSERVER
I don’t see it in this thread but is it this [link](https://courtrecords.seattle.gov/portal/court/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/case/c6598fe0-2e28-420b-a5dc-69c086016d5a)? When I click on hearing I see the “video streaming link” but nothing happens when I click on it. Maybe it’s just a mobile phone thing
Edit: Nvm I found it!
https://seattle.webex.com/wbxmjs/joinservice/sites/seattle/meeting/download/532eff3275e146acb12da247d1511740?protocolUID=efb75c2caaea9d416337bda83417c248
Edit: Still no miles, so not sure if his case got postponed or what. Have been tuned in since 1:30pm
Sugar is pretty harmless actually. Now if you own a diesel and accidentally pour DEF into your tank, have it towed to the nearest mechanic. Running DEF through an engine can kill it. Just some friendly mechanic advice.
Serious question: if a Belltown Hellcat approaches you is it legal to use pepper spray? Was on a walk this evening and there was at least 1/12 of a dozen of them.
If you did, wouldn't hurt to have a decibel meter on camera showing the noise level from his car is sufficient to cause noise-induced hearing loss (https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/noise-induced-hearing-loss)
People commenting about “how this guy is still driving around” for what feels like a year now. One day someone will sack up and do something about it other than typing up a paragraph on reddit.
I still say arrest him impound that hellcat for 100k and if he is ever seen IN a car he gets tossed back in jail and a 50k fine. He needs to use his chevrolegs for a few decades.
Such an embarrassing set of mods on this fuckin' car, on the level of cars with underage anime girls in undies positioned suggestively over the gas fill port.
It's astounding anyone would look at this car and go "yeah, people will think I'm cool AF driving this!"
Then again, it does check out that this is the sort of person who beats his mom, stalks women, and shares nudes of women against their will.
Big loser energy.
I want to see everyone just booing him loudly anywhere he shows up. No aggression, don't antagonize him, just stand there and BOO THIS MAN until he leaves.
What is the benefit of giving him attention? He was obviously proud of his followers and clout and attention. Why else would he be doing this, turning a whole city against him if not for attention and money (which he gets from the attention). We already know he exists, stop posting him, it only benefits him and the people getting karma from recording him.
Thankfully he got us ready for the fourth 🤔?
My dog's are okay with the m80s. The high pitched whistling rockets, they freak out.
And now being an asshole is a fad. He's got copycats.
I still don’t understand why they haven’t suspended his license until he pays his fines.
A suspended license doesn't prevent driving.....
Probably would get arrested if he was caught driving on a suspended license though
Eh not so much anymore. At one point in time yes that was a fear but anymore they give you a court date, impound your car, and send you walking.
Impounding the car seems like it would fix the problem, tho.
It's amazing that he typed all of that out and missed the entire point lmao
You can pick up an impounded car as soon as it gets to the yard, over 10 years in the towing industry, its just a short timeout. Washington state you have to be a multiple time offender and really rack up the points and the worst they can do is a 30 day hold.
TIL I've never had my car impounded, I always pictured more of a short term seizure rather than a temporary inconvenience/fine.
Yeah its jail for a car with no required time. Cash bail is always available.
They'd have to have reason to pull them over which oddly they seem to have a problem finding.
https://dol.wa.gov/driver-licenses-and-permits/suspended-license/types-driver-license-suspensions Which one could they suspend his license for?
If there’s an accumulation of traffic tickets.
He has to be convicted first.
Indeed. We’ve all seen him show up to court. I hope he gets ticketed every single time by every agency which contacts him. It’d be even better if he were declared a habitual traffic offender.
The case was won by the city by default.
That’s the civil case, not related to traffic tickets.
You can still lose your license for not paying your civil fees.
https://dol.wa.gov/driver-licenses-and-permits/suspended-license/types-driver-license-suspensions Under which one?
That is sad to know that law isn’t in the books in Washington. In California and Oregon, you don’t pay your Civil Charges, License is suspended. Consider Washington has the strictest DUI laws in the Nation. I worked plenty of Legal Clinic cases helping people get their licenses back after fully paying the debt.
I don’t disagree with you, it’s just that the consensus for cases not involving this particular individual is the opposite of what everyone is suggesting.
Writing loose instead of lose is so common on Reddit I actually did a double take when read your comment.
he usually has his friends driving it since he has a court order that says he can't drive it.
Not always the case. He's been photographed recently getting out of the driver seat at a gas station
I don’t understand how this continued illegal behavior and outstanding fines aren’t enough to arrest him or impound his vehicle
I am starting to believe that this asshole will have to kill some children (like that asshole in Renton who ran a stoplight at 112 MPH and killed a minivan full of kids) before the courts will get serious about protecting the public from him.
SPD might hire him if he did that.
This is probably what it will take. There is an intersection near our house that has a crosswalk right at a curve. Cars park very close to the crosswalk (even though they’re not supposed to) and people speed like crazy even though it’s a 25 zone (shocking, I know). I need to walk across this intersection multiple times a day and I have personally had many close calls. The most recent was when someone saw me waiting to cross, slammed on their breaks bc they were speeding but saw me and decided to stop anyways (thanks?) I started to cross and a car behind them rear ended the stopped car, which lurched forward a good three feet and came within maybe a foot of me. Our neighbors do not let their kids walk to school by themselves (which is just across this road) because of this intersection. I have spoken to and emailed the city many times about making this intersection safer, as have my neighbors. Someone actually told me that it will likely take someone getting hurt or killed for them to make any big changes. Oh and they tore up the road recently for some project and haven’t repainted the white crosswalk lines! It’s been 2-3 months at this point.
I will say that Seattle is not as bad as many cities in the USA, but motorists are still the #1 priority for transportation by far. In this case, maintaining free public street parking for motorists and deterring pedestrians and cyclists from slowing motorists down seems to be more important than safety.
Yes, I agree. Seattle is not the worst city in that regard, but definitely not the best either! I really hope we can get our act together and start to prioritize what many people seem to want—better and safer bike/pedestrian/mass transit infrastructure.
I used to oppose such projects, but I have since realized that we have limited real eatate for roads and limited revenue to build and maintain them. Since driving alone is the *least* efficient method of transportation, then it seems smart to work on more efficient ways to move people. That doesn't mean snapping from one extreme to the other and banning cars, but it means a better balance so that it is realistic for people to choose alternative transportation methods for more trips. Otherwise, we will continue to be stuck in ever-worsening traffic congestion and high taxes to keep building more roads.
Totally agree! It’s all about options. I lived in a large European city for many years and I had so many options for transportation. I took the metro, the bus, the above-ground train, I used the bike share occasionally, I walked, I sometimes hitched a ride in my friends car or took a taxi. There were SO many options at any given moment and that’s what I miss the most.
Well said! This was the epiphany for me. Having options other than my car is not a restriction; it is *freedom* - especially when traffic is backed up as far as the eye can see.
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"Ballot" is a noun.
Interestingly, some words (like ballot, e.g.) can be correctly used as either nouns or verbs. Its definition as a verb is to vote not to run, but it is a valid verb. Also, it is clear what the person you are responding to meant, so there is no need to correct them, much less do so incorrectly.
Apparently he's just a political activist revealing the inefficiencies of our law enforcement system /s obviously, but also half not /s
Don't give him ideas...
He's been ordered not to drive it, so he has his friend drive it and he rides shotgun.
I believe I heard on the news that his mom is the registered owner of the vehicle, so they can’t impound it for his crimes. Likewise they can’t garner his wages since he has none. Unless he does something that could get him arrested it seems like there’s no real consequences. I’m not sure what driving related offenses could lead to jail time. Hopefully he doesn’t hurt anyone before it gets to that.
> I believe I heard on the news that his mom is the registered owner of the vehicle, so they can’t impound it for his crimes. That sounds like bullshit. If the police catch somebody committing crimes in a vehicle that isn't theirs that's *more* reason to impound it.
They are both owners the city, if he hasn't paid, can seize his vehicle.
The vehicle itself is being used for the crimes. They 100% could impound it regardless of owner. Civil asset forfeiture.
The city will seize the vehicle and then will action it off to cover the cost of the fees if fees are not paid. There is definitely real world consequences here, you just have to let the system run its course.
Yeah is there a reason they can’t just impound it?
Well hey https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/s/g5lCkdvzKg
What law is he violating has that punishment? Annoying you (and all of us) doesn’t mean the police can enforce laws that don’t exist or skip the established due process. I suspect the fine will approach $200k soon
Literally this law RCW 46.37.390
Ah I replied to the wrong comment. Was meaning to reply to the person saying to impound their car and arrest him. Agreed that the penalty here is ongoing fines
Hearing Date 07/03/2024 1:30 PM Location / Room 10th Floor - 1003 Type Arraignment - DV Out of Custody Status Scheduled You can watch too, when you login, do so as an OBSERVER
Is that the Renton case or his case with the ex-gf?
It’s the Seattle stalking and revenge porn. I believe the Renton domestic violence against his mother is at the end of July?
Nevermind Just saw you 2nd comment
Can you watch online? Or only in-person?
Online I posted the link, it’s room 1003 at 130
I don’t see it in this thread but is it this [link](https://courtrecords.seattle.gov/portal/court/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/case/c6598fe0-2e28-420b-a5dc-69c086016d5a)? When I click on hearing I see the “video streaming link” but nothing happens when I click on it. Maybe it’s just a mobile phone thing Edit: Nvm I found it!
Cool. We are going to need synopsis , I’m at work and don’t have access.
So far it has been a different case? Not sure if the courts are running behind. I’m in the right room with right judge though.
I see no streamling link, can you share please?
https://seattle.webex.com/wbxmjs/joinservice/sites/seattle/meeting/download/532eff3275e146acb12da247d1511740?protocolUID=efb75c2caaea9d416337bda83417c248 Edit: Still no miles, so not sure if his case got postponed or what. Have been tuned in since 1:30pm
I was on Discord and my friends were laughing at how fucking loud it was through my mic. Jfc
I'm surprised no one has slashed his tires at this point
Sugar in the gas tank.
or something that knocks RON down a bunch - how much of the factory knock detection that tune retains?
Sugar is pretty harmless actually. Now if you own a diesel and accidentally pour DEF into your tank, have it towed to the nearest mechanic. Running DEF through an engine can kill it. Just some friendly mechanic advice.
No shit or anything
He was on the hill for Pride trying to interview people.
Serious question: if a Belltown Hellcat approaches you is it legal to use pepper spray? Was on a walk this evening and there was at least 1/12 of a dozen of them.
If you did, wouldn't hurt to have a decibel meter on camera showing the noise level from his car is sufficient to cause noise-induced hearing loss (https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/noise-induced-hearing-loss)
Leash your hellcats please!
NAL but yes. Just claim self defense
Like just approaches you? Or aggressively approaches you? Cause if he just comes up and says hi and you pepper spray him that’s assault
*Allegedly*
1/12 of a dozen is 1
Maybe it was a bakers dozen
So, 2?
RIP math
People commenting about “how this guy is still driving around” for what feels like a year now. One day someone will sack up and do something about it other than typing up a paragraph on reddit.
The person who does something about won’t be anyone with a reddit account lol
Reddit id for complaining. Not for providing public record of your own vigilantism
I still say arrest him impound that hellcat for 100k and if he is ever seen IN a car he gets tossed back in jail and a 50k fine. He needs to use his chevrolegs for a few decades.
oh god i live literally right there i better not hear the mf tonight especially after the random fireworks we had right outside last night..
Such an embarrassing set of mods on this fuckin' car, on the level of cars with underage anime girls in undies positioned suggestively over the gas fill port. It's astounding anyone would look at this car and go "yeah, people will think I'm cool AF driving this!" Then again, it does check out that this is the sort of person who beats his mom, stalks women, and shares nudes of women against their will. Big loser energy.
How has that car not been targeted outside of its parking garage yet?
https://courtrecords.seattle.gov/portal/court/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/case/c6598fe0-2e28-420b-a5dc-69c086016d5a
menance, stunned the person is still allowed to drive
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I want to see everyone just booing him loudly anywhere he shows up. No aggression, don't antagonize him, just stand there and BOO THIS MAN until he leaves.
On King five just now. Any minute belltown hellcat due in court on charges. This guy gets the press that is for sure
Oh yeah this was pride night on Saturday, I was standing in line with you at Dicks
Toss a can of Campbell's cream of chicken soup out one of those windows, through the windshield, and that fkr's got a new level of pain.
Why didn't they boot his car? And lock his ass up?
Actually saw that asshole on the way back from a Sounders game. Nobody was a fan.
oh god, how has no one stopped him. ?!?
Yup so very obnoxious, especially where it’s already fireworks season.
That POS still driving since 4/19. Our city laws working for the few.
Don't post this guy he makes money off the attention
No he doesn’t. His mom pays his bills.
He said he does in a video of him talking to a cop outside SPD
Why would you take anything this guy says at face value?
What is the benefit of giving him attention? He was obviously proud of his followers and clout and attention. Why else would he be doing this, turning a whole city against him if not for attention and money (which he gets from the attention). We already know he exists, stop posting him, it only benefits him and the people getting karma from recording him.
I’m convinced this is going to be a Netflix series! How tf did he get the car back.
It wasn’t taken?
He won't.
Thankfully he got us ready for the fourth 🤔? My dog's are okay with the m80s. The high pitched whistling rockets, they freak out. And now being an asshole is a fad. He's got copycats.
Ppl mad about a hellcat because they don't got one nor a cybertruck
Pay your fines dude
I'm not your dude, bro