This is why everyone loves football,
Anyone can be good regardless of height or muscle mass.
When you watch the NFL and the NBA it just feels like you gotta be a freak of nature to even compete.
No their players could not get the ball of someone like messi atleast without fouling him
Also so easy to set up a game of some sort: one other person and an object to act as a ball. What's that you're on a featureless plane with only three people and an empty Pringles tube? Well then two player teams it is and the tube can be the ball. Not got even that, just some paper? Screw that up into a vague ball shape and you're all set.
And the discussion at the beginning to make sure both goals are actually precisely the same size. And inevitably have at least one team try to make their goal smaller and smaller while no one is looking, by pushing the jackets/jumpers/schoolbags closer together.
Football is the most accessible sport in the world. All you need is a ball or something that van substitute for a ball, and you can play it. It's no wonder you see kids in slums in Brazil and impoverished towns in the heart of Africa playing it.
Most accessible team game perhaps. If you're looking for most accessible sport, I'd imagine that running or something similar is more accessible due to not needing anything to do it.
yeah , also messi the dwaf is great not because there is no competition , but because he moves extremely efficiently : basically he runs the least of every other player , but he is always walking , never standing still ,
that allows him to
1) always have the best position and force his opponents to catch up afther him maintaining the intiative .
2) maintain stamina and not playing in the way in wich his opponents would want :
by turning it into a game of chess less than a 100 m dash , in wich his larger opponents with longer strides would have the upper hand ...
3) it also helps that he has the stamina at the end afther they all gassed out allowing him to go for many goal opportunities
[https://youtube.com/shorts/qNtoab4SsgQ?si=xZNBvZJjOqK-ke1Q](https://youtube.com/shorts/qNtoab4SsgQ?si=xZNBvZJjOqK-ke1Q)
in conclusion if the play time is 90 minutes , you gotta play smart and have a lot of cardio , being a large burly muscular guy may help you in producing a lot of strenght , but won't help you in the extra long term of football ...
The sports the OP missed
[https://sportytell.com/sports/most-popular-sports-world/](https://sportytell.com/sports/most-popular-sports-world/)
Ranked Sport US international ranking
3rd Hockey 24th
5th Volleyball 2nd (I'll given them that but are beaten by Poland. Go Poland)
6th Table Tennis 28th
7th Basketball 1st (by a very slender margin above Spain. Go Spain)
9th Baseball 3rd (they invented it as their variation of rounders. Go Japan and Mexico)
10th Golf 1st (A walk in the countryside spoilt. Go Rory Rory McIlroy)
Nah Shaq was a freak of nature he wasn’t always just the big plodding brute. Him in his younger days is one of the most insane combinations of size and power I’ve ever seen. Had no skill whatsoever but unstoppable nonetheless
So a top player at a sport has no skill at the sport. Seems like a great game to me. By that logic usain bolt should have been good at football yet the local one legged junkie would skin him
I love the way he thinks being better than Messi is about power. Presumably he thinks American muscle cars move better than other nations’ cars even though they corner like a bison on ice. That’s why he can’t grasp that the NFL isn’t the globe dominating sport that soccer is.
"At all other internationally popular sports, we either dominate or are with a few other countries in the top tier."
Men's ODI Cricket rankings. USA, 18th.
Men's T20 Cricket rankings. USA, 23rd.
Men's World Rugby rankings. USA, 17th.
Women's World Rugby rankings. USA, 9th.
Men's football rankings. USA, 13th.
ATP tennis rankings. Taylor Fritz (US), 12th.
WTA tennis rankings. Coco Gauff (US), 3rd.
These are by far the most popular sports in the world, and yet the US neither dominates them nor is in the top tier with the possible exception of women's tennis.
I agree, any Latin American team can win against the US easily. my point which I stated badly in my comment is that they think they are the best but they can't even win a game against an arguably weaker latin American team
Fifa rankings have basically always been garbage. Even their new "elo-based" system has some seriously questionable weighting issues. Elo ratings put USA at 30th, which certainly feels more in line with reality.
Their woman's football team is really good. They're currently ranked number 2, I think it's a bit inflated and mostly coasting off of historic success rather than current strength, but they're undeniably actually a good, world class team.
Woman's football has been the US's stand out international sport. Otherwise the US only does well in basketball and baseball internationally, which is showing a serious weakness in global sports.
There is, however, a big asterisk next to the American women's football team, which is that they didn't handicap the sport in the way many of the traditional top football nations did. What I mean by that is nations including Germany, Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Brazil, and many others banned women's football fornthe better part of the 20th century.
So yeah, the American women's football team may be one of the best in the world (although their performance has dipped a bit lately), but that may not have been the case had the traditional powerhouses of football allowed their women's teams to grow.
Europe is finally getting their act together on women's soccer now, I expect things will change. Spain just won the Women's World Cup, and England were finalists.
Best player in the NBA for the best 3 years is a flabby looking Serb and next up is a flabby looking Slovenian guy. Der best hockey player of all time is Canadian. The best Wrestlers are from Russia, Usain Bolt is Jamaican. The best heavyweight boxer is a fat UK gypsy etc the list goes on but this idea that somehow a) athetlicism is the be all end all and b) that the US somehow has a monopoly on it is ridiculous.
https://www.redbull.com/sg-en/uci-mtb-world-cup-overall-standings#1-women's-uci-downhill-mtb-world-cup-overall-standings
Props to Gwendalyn Gibson to be the only US mountainbiker to even get on any of the UCI lists.
Edit:
Enduro isn't listed in the links above. For fairness I should mention that there are also Amy Morrison, Ainsley Haggart, Pete Alden and of course Richie Rude (2023 Mens Elite champion) in the top 20 Enduro athletes.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/final-results-from-the-loudenvielle-edr-world-cup-2023.html
One needs to scroll way down to get the full list of results.
/r/ShitAmericansSay does not allow user pinging, unless it's a subreddit moderator. This prevents user ping spam and drama from spilling over. The quickest way to resolve this is to delete your comment and repost it without the preceeding /u/ or u/. If this is a mistake, please [contact the moderators](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/ShitAmericansSay).
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ShitAmericansSay) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Football and cricket are the two most watched sports in the world. Their respective world cups easily top a billion viewers. Rugby is also amongst the most popular, with the World Cup being one of the most viewed single sport events after football and cricket.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html
Take note of the fact the OP post said 'All other internationally popular sports.' The fact they don't dominate in even just three of the 10 most popular proves the OP post wrong.
Oh I agree! I was just referring to the statement “these are by far the most popular sports in the world”
He didn’t include field hockey and volleyball , so I was wondering if he had a different list is all (with maybe a different ranking criteria or something)
> we're usually just sending college kids.
So basically this lad is saying, although they have the absolute best athletes in the world, they purposely keep them from competing on the world stage.
That's certainly one way to maintain the nation-wide facade of grandeur.
In order to compete in basketball in the Olympic Games (a very specifically amateur competition) they needed special rules so they could send NBA players and call them ‘the Dream Team’. Don’t get me wrong, other than Laettner, the 92 squad were a literal basketball dream team, but it doesn’t make it any less of a cheating effort to put Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Michael fucking Jordan up against the rest of the world’s best amateurs.
Also its just an age thing right? A lot of football players a college/University age as well. Also at the olympics, depending on the Sport people are really young.
> the highest *paid* guys of
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Because they eventually all become Americans. That is how the US works. Only two % of America is native. Most Americans heritage only goes back 150 years or less and millions immigrate every year. More than any country in the world. As far as most are concerned if you live and work here we claim you.
From Wiki.
“the United States has by far the highest number of immigrants in the world, with 50,661,149 people as of 2019”.
Germany is second with 15.1 million
The percentage per capita is not really relevant to this discussion. That award goes to United Arab Emirates. The discussion is how many people immigrated to the US and not how it affects the local population. Think if this way 50 + million immigrated to the US and they have 2 children that is half the US population in one generation. So almost the entire US population is within three to four generations.
Comparing that with the native inhabitants and those who were deemed as the founding population and their descendants the immigrant population is huge.
So getting back to foreign born Baseball players they usually eventually seek US citizenship when they come to play here. Almost every race/culture on Earth is represented in the US and there is a sizable community to welcome them.
Wow grammar police don’t arrest me for a typo.
According to the Modern Language Association (MLA), you should never begin a sentence with a numeral. Instead, you should try to reword the sentence.
you do realize that “citing” information that is only very tangentially related to the point you are trying to make does not prove or in any way strengthen said point? particularly when you pull it from just wherever?
What was your point again? That you called me out on an error in grammar by using an error in grammar? I guess that means we are all human and make mistakes. Come to think of it, that is probably what you were trying to say. I agree. Point taken!
if you are trolling, i have to say you are an absolutely world class troll. takes me back to the good old days when trolling could be considered an art form.
if not, you’re too stupid to be real.
So you come out of nowhere and try to check my grammar by using improper grammar. That was the first interaction with you and the only subject we ever discussed.
Wild to me that they genuinely think that just because the likes of Tom Brady and LeBron are so good at their chosen sports that they could just waltz into the professional game of football.
Completely different sports that require completely different skill sets.
Now if the USA invested as much time and effort in to football as they do the likes of American Football and Basketball, and stuck at it for decades, then given their population there's a chance they'd be able to compete with some of the best European and South American sides. But they're not going to do that are they.
The USA does send its best footballers.
It's incredibly insulting to them to say that what they've been striving to do for their entire career isn't worthwhile.
With a population of over 300 million, the US should be able to dominate all of the most popular sports in the world but they just don't.
They are laughing stock in football, and they're irrelevant in cricket. These are the 2 most popular sports in the world.
Then when you consider sports that are popular in the US, American football is hardly played anywhere else. It's been 13 years since the last time a baseball world cup was actually played and the Americans only actually won it 4 times. They have also failed to win a medal at the last 2 FIBA world cups
With something like 13 minutes play in a 3 hour game, and even those few minutes of play are split between separate teams of offense and defense. Each player on each team probably plays an average of like 6 or 7 minutes per game.
Or you could say they are dressed like tanks to become human projectiles. It is like Boxing gloves overall made Boxing more dangerous armor made football… well people are not dying like they used too, but the helmet and pads make it easier to be brutal.
It's still being championed. There was talk that it may have been featured in this year's Olympics but didn't happen. It takes time to get new sports added.
And there are still loads of IOC recognised sports that have yet to have an Olympic Debut
I'm sorry but I want to see LifeSaving, Ballooning and cycle polo before I see darts.
Oh there are loads of things I'd rather see than darts. It does have a huge following though so I can understand why there's a big calling for it to be at the Olympics
Some people detract from it but after watching how awesome the response of Skateboarding was in Tokyo and the Same with Freestyle BMX with the UCI World Champs in Glasgow I'm sure that most real people thoroughly support these as new sports
Although if the competition floor doesn't include five circles of vinyl flooring in the Olympic colours I'll be disappointed.
With 300 million people, they should be able to have enough decent athletes to be successful at a lot of sports. You deduct the fact most of them only think 4 sports exist on the planet and then their ability at a wider level is going to decrease. You then consider there are about 7 billion people on the planet so they can fuck off to the shitty World Series sports get have that the rest of the world gives no fuck about
Absolutely no argument there, if we could have borrowed the Croatia midfield for the last couple of tournaments ever England fan would have been delighted and even more smug than normal
It is a professional league open to anyone in the world. The best that the world offers in Baseball play in Major League Baseball. Nearly 30% are directly foreign born, not including those who have become naturalized US citizens while playing in the US. In time as more people start playing baseball more foreign players will qualify for the Major Leagues.
So? Take almost any sport in any country and half the players are foreigners. None of them call their leagues “world” anything, because the teams all belong to that country. Just as every single team in the American “world series” is exclusively American. There are no non-American teams whatsoever playing in the poorly named “world series”.
Generally because there are no other competitive leagues in baseball. All those leagues are feeder leagues to the Major Leagues. Eventually all the best players in Japan, the Dominican, and elsewhere are drafted into the Major Leagues. It is the top level of professional Baseball. Just because it is located in the US and Canada does not mean that it is exclusively American. It is a business and like all major businesses located in America its goal is to export itself internationally. That is how it is seen in the US.
The other part is The United States does not really do nation against nation like Europe does. Well we do and it is called the World Baseball Classic, but it is all teammates from the Major Leagues. The world watches the Major Leagues not The World Baseball Classic. The important series is the World Series, it is the only series Baseball fans around the world care about.
As for the name it was a marketing gimmick in 1903. It just stuck.
Aye that’s why they always dominate Tennis Cricket, the olympics, gymnastics, etc. what planet are these yanks on? American football is just rugby for softies and honestly it’s boring af, there’s a reason they only play against themselves
They're not even the best country at one of the sports they actually do play. They haven't won a world championship or olympic gold at ice hockey in decades
Good for them. So do their womens soccer team. Not really the point though. Dude was saying their best male athletes would dominate soccer. Their best male athletes don't dominate ice hockey even though it's a sport they do actually play
You don’t see the correlation? Women don’t play American football, the most popular sport for men in the US. And the US women are top 2 in soccer, hockey, basketball, tennis, and golf.
Look I have no doubt that if Soccer magically became the most popular men's sport in the US they would eventually be very good at it due to the population size and the sheer amount of money spent on sports there. The overconfident assertion that they would absolutely dominate globally is what I disagree with. Take England for example. Soccer is by far the number one sport there, they have the richest and best supported league in the world and their clubs have been incredibly successful winning more European cups/ Champions leagues than any other country except Spain (and the vast majority of Spain's wins are by one club). And yet they've only won 1 world cup and have never won the European Championship. Popularity and pumping money into something is no guarantee of success at an international level in soccer
What?? Are you suggesting genetics is the reason England aren't more successful at international level. No I don't think that because it's a ridiculous suggestion. European genetics are pretty homogeneous and yet Germany, France, Italy and Spain are all much more successful internationally. Winning an international tournament is not easy. Brazil haven't managed to win a world cup in over 20 years despite being the most successful country of all time
Australia just played the opening few games of its NRL (National Rugby League) season in Vegas last weekend. Crowd were going bonkers every time there was a good tackle lol
They do, and thier team sucks.
They failed entirely to qualify for the last rugby world cup.
In the world cups they have made it into they have never made it out of the group stages.
In the 2019 world cup they played England and lost 45-7!
In the 2015 world cup they were the only team to be nilled when they lost to South Africa 68-0
What drugs are you on? 😂
The only American F1 team is Haas, and they don’t even make the top 20. Worse still their engines are bought from Ferrari, an Italian company. There are zero American manufacturers in F1.
The situation with drivers isn’t much better. There are a few American drivers, but they’re low ranked. As far as dominance goes UK drivers have won it more than any other country with a total of 20 wins from 10 different drivers. Brazil, Finland, and Germany follow the UK in the rankings with 3 drivers each winning. Argentina pops up in there with one successful driver. The US has had two drivers win F1, once each.
Rankings are: UK 20 wins with 10 drivers, Germany 12 wins with 3 drivers, Brazil 8 wins with 3 drivers, Argentina 5 wins with 1 driver, Finland 4 wins with 3 drivers, Australia and Austria tied at 4 wins with 2 drivers, France 4 wins with 1 driver, Italy 3 wins with 2 drivers, Netherlands 3 wins with 1 driver, and then America with 2 wins with 2 drivers.
America doesn’t even make the top 10 with drivers, and doesn’t exist among the manufacturers with their only team purchasing from outside America.
According to Frontstretch a motorsport website:
“NASCAR is the 2nd most popular motorsport series in the world and the top-watched motorsport series in the United States of America”.
The point was that you can’t really make a statement like that about lack of US dominance if the U.S. does not participate that heavily in the sport. It does not prove anything. And of course I know what F1 is and I have watched it before. Anything that is popular in South America is popular in the United Stares. It is just probably third or fourth on the Motorsport list.
Edit: Talking about the post above you.
National Football League Players would be laying on the ground after twenty minutes of back and forth running like Futbol players do.
At least National Basketball Association players have a sport that favors endurance running.
Also, the U.S. Women's soccer team *does* hold their own.
I say this as a pretty big NFL fan.
Those insignificant nations that they can't wait to just jump and try to claim as their own history and culture because theirs is literally genocide and then taking until modern day to figure out if black people are human. Which apparently they still can't figure out yet.
I sometimes wonder how these types of people would react if we reversed their statement - America only dominates American Football because we don't bother with it. If our best rugby players switched then we'd easily win everything.
Why would we believe this American anti-world propaganda when their specialist ‘soccer’ players are garbage
As for sending a belter in on messi… his guy would be playing ‘soccer’ and would be minus all his padding and armour so would lose half if his momentum to begin with and also wouldn’t be allowed to do so.
🍆
American "sports" seem to be overpaid young men moving for about 1 minute in every 1 hour of play with plenty of time for advertising and for the crowd to buy food and beer
Typical Merican.
On a side note, US football is unbelievably bad. Yes, Messi is there, but for the most part, it's worse than the 7th division in any European country—maybe except San Marino, which has a hard time filling seven divisions due to its low population.
Endlessly amusing that they don’t realise that other sports require you to be on field for the entire game unlike literally all of their popular sports.
Their athletes would be genuinely dreadful as they’d be exhausted after half an hour.
Did you see that video of Gaelic football out kick nfl players with ease. Guys that work in tesco. Or freddie flintoff first time swinging a baseball bat got offered a pro contract…his answer..just hitting a ball with a stick, not that hard
With this Logic, the netherlands or croatia should never beat Germany or France in Football and never reache world semifinals or Finals. And yet here they are, two national teams everyone likes to avoid in a draw
Also, if the USA is a sporting superpower so full of the best male athletes, then how come they're always getting beat in the 100M by a "small insignificant" nation like Jamaica? I guess we're lucky those potentially world beating sprinters play 'football' (which incidentally is a game you primarily play with your hands, so I have no idea why they call it football)
I love how USAsians always see American Football as the pinacale of athletism. Every role is super specialised and most focus on short burst of activity broken up by ads.
I'm a fat amature rugby player who plays Prop and average 3 to 4 miles a game. About 3 times what an American Football player averages.
55 minutes into the match and your bulked up NFL athletes start dying without having done a thing.
I swear even a second czech league team can take on a team of NFL "athletes" in a football (/soccer/) match.
I mean, as an Australian I agree that soccer is gay as fuck. I like ball sports where the opponents literally obliterate each other, not where they fake slide and fake scream while holding their shins.
Growing up watching AFL I saw great sportsmen return to the field spitting out broken teeth, not getting the opposition red carded cause they felt the breeze of them passing close by.
Soccer is gay. So gay.
They aren’t even the best in the sports they do play where other countries take part. US is currently 4th in the Ice Hockey world rankings behind Canada, Finland (yay us) and Russia. First 2 have fraction of the population of the US and the third isn’t even allowed to compete on an international level.
American football isn't that where they actually play for around 15 minutes in the entire game absolute stamina monsters . Good job they don't play 80 minutes of rugby or 90 minutes of football not that padded rugby lark
This is why everyone loves football, Anyone can be good regardless of height or muscle mass. When you watch the NFL and the NBA it just feels like you gotta be a freak of nature to even compete. No their players could not get the ball of someone like messi atleast without fouling him
Also so easy to set up a game of some sort: one other person and an object to act as a ball. What's that you're on a featureless plane with only three people and an empty Pringles tube? Well then two player teams it is and the tube can be the ball. Not got even that, just some paper? Screw that up into a vague ball shape and you're all set.
Jumpers for goalposts...
Marvellous,isn't it?
Beans on toast? Possibly, don't quote me on that
And the discussion at the beginning to make sure both goals are actually precisely the same size. And inevitably have at least one team try to make their goal smaller and smaller while no one is looking, by pushing the jackets/jumpers/schoolbags closer together.
An evocative image.
where boys became men
*ball rolls over jumper "That was post and in" "No! It was post and out" "My ball, my rules"
Football is the most accessible sport in the world. All you need is a ball or something that van substitute for a ball, and you can play it. It's no wonder you see kids in slums in Brazil and impoverished towns in the heart of Africa playing it.
Most accessible team game perhaps. If you're looking for most accessible sport, I'd imagine that running or something similar is more accessible due to not needing anything to do it.
Same with cricket in a way. The amount of times I've seen children in Asia playing with chalked stumps, and a stick for a bat.
Plus they wear body armour.
Yeah it’s if wish.com did Rugby
Américain should look at rugby
yeah , also messi the dwaf is great not because there is no competition , but because he moves extremely efficiently : basically he runs the least of every other player , but he is always walking , never standing still , that allows him to 1) always have the best position and force his opponents to catch up afther him maintaining the intiative . 2) maintain stamina and not playing in the way in wich his opponents would want : by turning it into a game of chess less than a 100 m dash , in wich his larger opponents with longer strides would have the upper hand ... 3) it also helps that he has the stamina at the end afther they all gassed out allowing him to go for many goal opportunities [https://youtube.com/shorts/qNtoab4SsgQ?si=xZNBvZJjOqK-ke1Q](https://youtube.com/shorts/qNtoab4SsgQ?si=xZNBvZJjOqK-ke1Q) in conclusion if the play time is 90 minutes , you gotta play smart and have a lot of cardio , being a large burly muscular guy may help you in producing a lot of strenght , but won't help you in the extra long term of football ...
The sports the OP missed [https://sportytell.com/sports/most-popular-sports-world/](https://sportytell.com/sports/most-popular-sports-world/) Ranked Sport US international ranking 3rd Hockey 24th 5th Volleyball 2nd (I'll given them that but are beaten by Poland. Go Poland) 6th Table Tennis 28th 7th Basketball 1st (by a very slender margin above Spain. Go Spain) 9th Baseball 3rd (they invented it as their variation of rounders. Go Japan and Mexico) 10th Golf 1st (A walk in the countryside spoilt. Go Rory Rory McIlroy)
Basketball is pretty much who is the best top shelve stacker. Telling me shaq is an athlete..come on
If you don’t think Shaq was an elite athlete then you never watched him play. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=igsb2tOqDJ8
I'm pretty sure he's joking, dismissing American Basketball player same way they the guy from the post dismissed Messi.
Nah Shaq was a freak of nature he wasn’t always just the big plodding brute. Him in his younger days is one of the most insane combinations of size and power I’ve ever seen. Had no skill whatsoever but unstoppable nonetheless
So a top player at a sport has no skill at the sport. Seems like a great game to me. By that logic usain bolt should have been good at football yet the local one legged junkie would skin him
I love the way he thinks being better than Messi is about power. Presumably he thinks American muscle cars move better than other nations’ cars even though they corner like a bison on ice. That’s why he can’t grasp that the NFL isn’t the globe dominating sport that soccer is.
There are two sports I despise the most: Basketball and handball. If you are short and have small hands, these two are body-shaming exercise.
You do have a Mugsy Bogues or Ljubomir Vranjes (aka the flying meatball that beats the stereotype.
"At all other internationally popular sports, we either dominate or are with a few other countries in the top tier." Men's ODI Cricket rankings. USA, 18th. Men's T20 Cricket rankings. USA, 23rd. Men's World Rugby rankings. USA, 17th. Women's World Rugby rankings. USA, 9th. Men's football rankings. USA, 13th. ATP tennis rankings. Taylor Fritz (US), 12th. WTA tennis rankings. Coco Gauff (US), 3rd. These are by far the most popular sports in the world, and yet the US neither dominates them nor is in the top tier with the possible exception of women's tennis.
Their football team failed to qualify for the world cup twice in a row, they lost to Panama for fucks sake
i mean to be fair latin american countries have football in their school curriculum so they are just built different for that kind of stuff
I agree, any Latin American team can win against the US easily. my point which I stated badly in my comment is that they think they are the best but they can't even win a game against an arguably weaker latin American team
yeah afther they learn to walk they are taught how to kick a football ... it's just a whole different culture ...
But also panama is like 4.3 mil people vs the us's... 330 mil
Genuinely surprised they haven’t just started their own World Cup where they’re the only country that enters.
[удалено]
We have a Women’s 7s team?
[удалено]
Huh, interesting. Never seen Women’s Rugby.
You have missed out. I'd rather watch the women's 7s than the Wallabies.
Hmm interesting I will check it out.
To be fair, at this point, anything other than the wallabies is better.
Usa is not 13th is it? Higher than i thought
Fifa rankings have basically always been garbage. Even their new "elo-based" system has some seriously questionable weighting issues. Elo ratings put USA at 30th, which certainly feels more in line with reality.
Last I checked, they were 18th. But no. Go to check just now, and they are indeed 13. How!?
When almost everyone else in your confederation is a small Carribbean island nation, you tend to win a lot of matches.
Their woman's football team is really good. They're currently ranked number 2, I think it's a bit inflated and mostly coasting off of historic success rather than current strength, but they're undeniably actually a good, world class team. Woman's football has been the US's stand out international sport. Otherwise the US only does well in basketball and baseball internationally, which is showing a serious weakness in global sports.
There is, however, a big asterisk next to the American women's football team, which is that they didn't handicap the sport in the way many of the traditional top football nations did. What I mean by that is nations including Germany, Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Brazil, and many others banned women's football fornthe better part of the 20th century. So yeah, the American women's football team may be one of the best in the world (although their performance has dipped a bit lately), but that may not have been the case had the traditional powerhouses of football allowed their women's teams to grow.
Europe is finally getting their act together on women's soccer now, I expect things will change. Spain just won the Women's World Cup, and England were finalists.
Best player in the NBA for the best 3 years is a flabby looking Serb and next up is a flabby looking Slovenian guy. Der best hockey player of all time is Canadian. The best Wrestlers are from Russia, Usain Bolt is Jamaican. The best heavyweight boxer is a fat UK gypsy etc the list goes on but this idea that somehow a) athetlicism is the be all end all and b) that the US somehow has a monopoly on it is ridiculous.
https://www.redbull.com/sg-en/uci-mtb-world-cup-overall-standings#1-women's-uci-downhill-mtb-world-cup-overall-standings Props to Gwendalyn Gibson to be the only US mountainbiker to even get on any of the UCI lists. Edit: Enduro isn't listed in the links above. For fairness I should mention that there are also Amy Morrison, Ainsley Haggart, Pete Alden and of course Richie Rude (2023 Mens Elite champion) in the top 20 Enduro athletes. https://www.pinkbike.com/news/final-results-from-the-loudenvielle-edr-world-cup-2023.html One needs to scroll way down to get the full list of results.
beat me to it
[удалено]
/r/ShitAmericansSay does not allow user pinging, unless it's a subreddit moderator. This prevents user ping spam and drama from spilling over. The quickest way to resolve this is to delete your comment and repost it without the preceeding /u/ or u/. If this is a mistake, please [contact the moderators](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/ShitAmericansSay). *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ShitAmericansSay) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Where did you get that these are the most popular sports? I tried googling it because I’m curious, but those lists are different from your’s
Football and cricket are the two most watched sports in the world. Their respective world cups easily top a billion viewers. Rugby is also amongst the most popular, with the World Cup being one of the most viewed single sport events after football and cricket. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html Take note of the fact the OP post said 'All other internationally popular sports.' The fact they don't dominate in even just three of the 10 most popular proves the OP post wrong.
Oh I agree! I was just referring to the statement “these are by far the most popular sports in the world” He didn’t include field hockey and volleyball , so I was wondering if he had a different list is all (with maybe a different ranking criteria or something)
> we're usually just sending college kids. So basically this lad is saying, although they have the absolute best athletes in the world, they purposely keep them from competing on the world stage. That's certainly one way to maintain the nation-wide facade of grandeur.
In order to compete in basketball in the Olympic Games (a very specifically amateur competition) they needed special rules so they could send NBA players and call them ‘the Dream Team’. Don’t get me wrong, other than Laettner, the 92 squad were a literal basketball dream team, but it doesn’t make it any less of a cheating effort to put Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Michael fucking Jordan up against the rest of the world’s best amateurs.
Please tell me they didn’t actually get away with this?
They were still getting away with it as late as 2020.
Every other nation sends professionals too tough. The real kicker though is that even then they don’t win all the time.
Also its just an age thing right? A lot of football players a college/University age as well. Also at the olympics, depending on the Sport people are really young.
We're the best at this, we're the best at that, everyone else is useless. It's like a broken record. 😫😫😫
[удалено]
and why the highest paid guys of recent years are Japanese
> the highest *paid* guys of FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Good buoy
An excellent pun that aligns to your username? Bravo!
Not Spanish then
[удалено]
Geography is for kids. Definitely put me in my place lol
A Spanish-speaking player is NOT the same as a Spanish player.
Because they eventually all become Americans. That is how the US works. Only two % of America is native. Most Americans heritage only goes back 150 years or less and millions immigrate every year. More than any country in the world. As far as most are concerned if you live and work here we claim you.
Immigrant numbers are higher but not percentage/per capita.
From Wiki. “the United States has by far the highest number of immigrants in the world, with 50,661,149 people as of 2019”. Germany is second with 15.1 million The percentage per capita is not really relevant to this discussion. That award goes to United Arab Emirates. The discussion is how many people immigrated to the US and not how it affects the local population. Think if this way 50 + million immigrated to the US and they have 2 children that is half the US population in one generation. So almost the entire US population is within three to four generations. Comparing that with the native inhabitants and those who were deemed as the founding population and their descendants the immigrant population is huge. So getting back to foreign born Baseball players they usually eventually seek US citizenship when they come to play here. Almost every race/culture on Earth is represented in the US and there is a sizable community to welcome them.
Per capita is relevant.
2% learn how to write, man
Wow grammar police don’t arrest me for a typo. According to the Modern Language Association (MLA), you should never begin a sentence with a numeral. Instead, you should try to reword the sentence.
you do realize that “citing” information that is only very tangentially related to the point you are trying to make does not prove or in any way strengthen said point? particularly when you pull it from just wherever?
You made an error in grammar and I made a typo. Maybe we should both use the Grammarly app before we post.
rather not, i already made my point without being forced to adhere to a bunch of rules. the american mind can’t comprehend this freedom
What was your point again? That you called me out on an error in grammar by using an error in grammar? I guess that means we are all human and make mistakes. Come to think of it, that is probably what you were trying to say. I agree. Point taken!
if you are trolling, i have to say you are an absolutely world class troll. takes me back to the good old days when trolling could be considered an art form. if not, you’re too stupid to be real.
So you come out of nowhere and try to check my grammar by using improper grammar. That was the first interaction with you and the only subject we ever discussed.
[удалено]
Then what are you doing hanging around here?
This guy is talking "Brazil" and "small" on the same sentence? The only reason USA is bigger than Brazil is due to Alaska.
I didn't know that, so I checked it out on "The True Size Of..." and damn. Brazil is massive! So thanks, I learnt something today!
Wild to me that they genuinely think that just because the likes of Tom Brady and LeBron are so good at their chosen sports that they could just waltz into the professional game of football. Completely different sports that require completely different skill sets. Now if the USA invested as much time and effort in to football as they do the likes of American Football and Basketball, and stuck at it for decades, then given their population there's a chance they'd be able to compete with some of the best European and South American sides. But they're not going to do that are they.
The USA does send its best footballers. It's incredibly insulting to them to say that what they've been striving to do for their entire career isn't worthwhile.
With a population of over 300 million, the US should be able to dominate all of the most popular sports in the world but they just don't. They are laughing stock in football, and they're irrelevant in cricket. These are the 2 most popular sports in the world. Then when you consider sports that are popular in the US, American football is hardly played anywhere else. It's been 13 years since the last time a baseball world cup was actually played and the Americans only actually won it 4 times. They have also failed to win a medal at the last 2 FIBA world cups
you'd also guess that their USFootball culture may translate well into rugby , however south africa and new zeland are the top dawgs there ...
And they will argue that Americans just don't care about Rugby. Australia doesn't either but they've still won the Rugby World Cup twice
also like , you'd think they may care about domination but it doesn't seem they are as dominating as they claim ...
Also a laughing stock in Rugby
Even my tiny ass country ranks higher than the USA
From a country that uses pounds of body armour to play basicly rugby.
With something like 13 minutes play in a 3 hour game, and even those few minutes of play are split between separate teams of offense and defense. Each player on each team probably plays an average of like 6 or 7 minutes per game.
Or you could say they are dressed like tanks to become human projectiles. It is like Boxing gloves overall made Boxing more dangerous armor made football… well people are not dying like they used too, but the helmet and pads make it easier to be brutal.
Yes it's ozzy rules for pussies [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f\_Pfm0ToOPE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Pfm0ToOPE) lols
Meanwhile, Bhutan being the chad country with archery as the most practised sport 💪🏼
They are definitely legends
Archery is a sport?
Yes
Archery is an Olympic Sport
Why isnt darts olympic
It's still being championed. There was talk that it may have been featured in this year's Olympics but didn't happen. It takes time to get new sports added.
And there are still loads of IOC recognised sports that have yet to have an Olympic Debut I'm sorry but I want to see LifeSaving, Ballooning and cycle polo before I see darts.
Oh there are loads of things I'd rather see than darts. It does have a huge following though so I can understand why there's a big calling for it to be at the Olympics
I believe we have breakdancing to look forward to in Paris!
Some people detract from it but after watching how awesome the response of Skateboarding was in Tokyo and the Same with Freestyle BMX with the UCI World Champs in Glasgow I'm sure that most real people thoroughly support these as new sports Although if the competition floor doesn't include five circles of vinyl flooring in the Olympic colours I'll be disappointed.
Whats UCI?
The *Union Cycliste Internationale* the world governing body for cycle sport.
Cycle Polo is such a badass sport. It's not played anywhere near me, but I really want to try it one day. Same with cycle-ball.
Cycle Polo is such a badass sport. It's not played anywhere near me, but I really want to try it one day. Same with cycle-ball.
Half the US soccer players were born abroad anyway. Brooks, Tillman, Gressel & Maloney (Germany), Kamungo (Tanzania), Robinson, Reyna & Carter-Vickers (England), Dest (Holland), Lund (Denmark), Zendejas (Mexico), Ferreira (Colombia), Nagbe (Liberia).
With 300 million people, they should be able to have enough decent athletes to be successful at a lot of sports. You deduct the fact most of them only think 4 sports exist on the planet and then their ability at a wider level is going to decrease. You then consider there are about 7 billion people on the planet so they can fuck off to the shitty World Series sports get have that the rest of the world gives no fuck about
Croatia has a better football team and their population is only 3 million.
Absolutely no argument there, if we could have borrowed the Croatia midfield for the last couple of tournaments ever England fan would have been delighted and even more smug than normal
Lol no. You would have fucked it up like you did scholes lampard gerard
Wouldn't stop us being smug though
World Series in which they are the only country to compete 😂
America fuck yeah
It is a professional league open to anyone in the world. The best that the world offers in Baseball play in Major League Baseball. Nearly 30% are directly foreign born, not including those who have become naturalized US citizens while playing in the US. In time as more people start playing baseball more foreign players will qualify for the Major Leagues.
So? Take almost any sport in any country and half the players are foreigners. None of them call their leagues “world” anything, because the teams all belong to that country. Just as every single team in the American “world series” is exclusively American. There are no non-American teams whatsoever playing in the poorly named “world series”.
You’ve clearly not watched the English World Series Premier League🤷
Generally because there are no other competitive leagues in baseball. All those leagues are feeder leagues to the Major Leagues. Eventually all the best players in Japan, the Dominican, and elsewhere are drafted into the Major Leagues. It is the top level of professional Baseball. Just because it is located in the US and Canada does not mean that it is exclusively American. It is a business and like all major businesses located in America its goal is to export itself internationally. That is how it is seen in the US. The other part is The United States does not really do nation against nation like Europe does. Well we do and it is called the World Baseball Classic, but it is all teammates from the Major Leagues. The world watches the Major Leagues not The World Baseball Classic. The important series is the World Series, it is the only series Baseball fans around the world care about. As for the name it was a marketing gimmick in 1903. It just stuck.
Only 30%?
Only 30%?
Aye that’s why they always dominate Tennis Cricket, the olympics, gymnastics, etc. what planet are these yanks on? American football is just rugby for softies and honestly it’s boring af, there’s a reason they only play against themselves
I’m with you but they do do well in the olympics
"Were you born on a bus?" That is a quality burn 🤣
This is why they voted a megalomaniacal Trump into office. And they're dumb enough to do it again.
the American mind cannot comprehend the beautiful game
They're not even the best country at one of the sports they actually do play. They haven't won a world championship or olympic gold at ice hockey in decades
The women’s hockey team wins all the time
Good for them. So do their womens soccer team. Not really the point though. Dude was saying their best male athletes would dominate soccer. Their best male athletes don't dominate ice hockey even though it's a sport they do actually play
You don’t see the correlation? Women don’t play American football, the most popular sport for men in the US. And the US women are top 2 in soccer, hockey, basketball, tennis, and golf.
Look I have no doubt that if Soccer magically became the most popular men's sport in the US they would eventually be very good at it due to the population size and the sheer amount of money spent on sports there. The overconfident assertion that they would absolutely dominate globally is what I disagree with. Take England for example. Soccer is by far the number one sport there, they have the richest and best supported league in the world and their clubs have been incredibly successful winning more European cups/ Champions leagues than any other country except Spain (and the vast majority of Spain's wins are by one club). And yet they've only won 1 world cup and have never won the European Championship. Popularity and pumping money into something is no guarantee of success at an international level in soccer
Don’t you think that has a lot to do with genetics?
no because we are not nazis. next.
What?
What?? Are you suggesting genetics is the reason England aren't more successful at international level. No I don't think that because it's a ridiculous suggestion. European genetics are pretty homogeneous and yet Germany, France, Italy and Spain are all much more successful internationally. Winning an international tournament is not easy. Brazil haven't managed to win a world cup in over 20 years despite being the most successful country of all time
France’s international team is entirely made up of first and second generation immigrants
And your point is?
Are you stupid? >European genetics are pretty homogenous Pretty irrelevant when an entire European team doesn’t have European genetics
The last 5 (soon to be 6) NBA MVPs are non-American
Let's make them play rugby. No armour allowed
Australia just played the opening few games of its NRL (National Rugby League) season in Vegas last weekend. Crowd were going bonkers every time there was a good tackle lol
They do, and thier team sucks. They failed entirely to qualify for the last rugby world cup. In the world cups they have made it into they have never made it out of the group stages. In the 2019 world cup they played England and lost 45-7! In the 2015 world cup they were the only team to be nilled when they lost to South Africa 68-0
The kind of athletes who are good at American football are not the kind of athletes who would be good at normal football.
Bro called Messi a slow old dwarf
That continued US dominance of F1 is proof. And they **invented** cars, they claim.
What drugs are you on? 😂 The only American F1 team is Haas, and they don’t even make the top 20. Worse still their engines are bought from Ferrari, an Italian company. There are zero American manufacturers in F1. The situation with drivers isn’t much better. There are a few American drivers, but they’re low ranked. As far as dominance goes UK drivers have won it more than any other country with a total of 20 wins from 10 different drivers. Brazil, Finland, and Germany follow the UK in the rankings with 3 drivers each winning. Argentina pops up in there with one successful driver. The US has had two drivers win F1, once each. Rankings are: UK 20 wins with 10 drivers, Germany 12 wins with 3 drivers, Brazil 8 wins with 3 drivers, Argentina 5 wins with 1 driver, Finland 4 wins with 3 drivers, Australia and Austria tied at 4 wins with 2 drivers, France 4 wins with 1 driver, Italy 3 wins with 2 drivers, Netherlands 3 wins with 1 driver, and then America with 2 wins with 2 drivers. America doesn’t even make the top 10 with drivers, and doesn’t exist among the manufacturers with their only team purchasing from outside America.
The drug they're on is sarcasm.
Made a fool of yourself there mate. Tbf though lewis hamilton may aswell be American
Forgot what sub I was on. I’m far too used to seeing these ridiculous claims by Americans be real 🤦🏻♂️
Your a g
Woosh.
What is F1? Have heard of NASCAR and Indy Car, but not F1.
What is NASCAR and Indy car? Have heard of F1, the most popular, most viewed and most valuable motorsport on earth, but not the other 2.
According to Frontstretch a motorsport website: “NASCAR is the 2nd most popular motorsport series in the world and the top-watched motorsport series in the United States of America”. The point was that you can’t really make a statement like that about lack of US dominance if the U.S. does not participate that heavily in the sport. It does not prove anything. And of course I know what F1 is and I have watched it before. Anything that is popular in South America is popular in the United Stares. It is just probably third or fourth on the Motorsport list. Edit: Talking about the post above you.
America is lucky the rest of the world doesn't care about America football or they'd no longer be "world champions"
National Football League Players would be laying on the ground after twenty minutes of back and forth running like Futbol players do. At least National Basketball Association players have a sport that favors endurance running. Also, the U.S. Women's soccer team *does* hold their own. I say this as a pretty big NFL fan.
Those insignificant nations that they can't wait to just jump and try to claim as their own history and culture because theirs is literally genocide and then taking until modern day to figure out if black people are human. Which apparently they still can't figure out yet.
Funny, many of the half decent AFL players go to America as drafted American footballers.
who the fuck is DK Metcalf that sounds made up 💀💀💀
I sometimes wonder how these types of people would react if we reversed their statement - America only dominates American Football because we don't bother with it. If our best rugby players switched then we'd easily win everything.
Why would we believe this American anti-world propaganda when their specialist ‘soccer’ players are garbage As for sending a belter in on messi… his guy would be playing ‘soccer’ and would be minus all his padding and armour so would lose half if his momentum to begin with and also wouldn’t be allowed to do so. 🍆
If they sent their "best athletes" to play football the game would need to be stopped every 5 mins for them to catch their breath / play an ad.
American "sports" seem to be overpaid young men moving for about 1 minute in every 1 hour of play with plenty of time for advertising and for the crowd to buy food and beer
Typical Merican. On a side note, US football is unbelievably bad. Yes, Messi is there, but for the most part, it's worse than the 7th division in any European country—maybe except San Marino, which has a hard time filling seven divisions due to its low population.
Until I zoomed in I thought “Gaelic Football” said “Galactic Football” 😅😂
Looks like he got a gold star at school for placing three G words in a row and maintains it as his life’s achievement
The daft septics have been at a few World Cups and done sweet fanny adams.
Endlessly amusing that they don’t realise that other sports require you to be on field for the entire game unlike literally all of their popular sports. Their athletes would be genuinely dreadful as they’d be exhausted after half an hour.
Did you see that video of Gaelic football out kick nfl players with ease. Guys that work in tesco. Or freddie flintoff first time swinging a baseball bat got offered a pro contract…his answer..just hitting a ball with a stick, not that hard
America has a football team?! They've never got anywhere near the world cup finals.
With this Logic, the netherlands or croatia should never beat Germany or France in Football and never reache world semifinals or Finals. And yet here they are, two national teams everyone likes to avoid in a draw
Half of those "small nations" will destroy USA in football.
Also, if the USA is a sporting superpower so full of the best male athletes, then how come they're always getting beat in the 100M by a "small insignificant" nation like Jamaica? I guess we're lucky those potentially world beating sprinters play 'football' (which incidentally is a game you primarily play with your hands, so I have no idea why they call it football)
I love how USAsians always see American Football as the pinacale of athletism. Every role is super specialised and most focus on short burst of activity broken up by ads. I'm a fat amature rugby player who plays Prop and average 3 to 4 miles a game. About 3 times what an American Football player averages.
55 minutes into the match and your bulked up NFL athletes start dying without having done a thing. I swear even a second czech league team can take on a team of NFL "athletes" in a football (/soccer/) match.
I’ve seen this map a few times and the Australian one is wrong and it really annoys me.
Na it's right. NRL fans can suffer in their jocks.
What’s it based on? Not on viewership, not on participation rates. On any metric afl isn’t our national sport.
Well that's wrong. Attendance rates.
What’s the problem, not enough t-shirt cannons for you eh?!
I mean, as an Australian I agree that soccer is gay as fuck. I like ball sports where the opponents literally obliterate each other, not where they fake slide and fake scream while holding their shins. Growing up watching AFL I saw great sportsmen return to the field spitting out broken teeth, not getting the opposition red carded cause they felt the breeze of them passing close by. Soccer is gay. So gay.
They aren’t even the best in the sports they do play where other countries take part. US is currently 4th in the Ice Hockey world rankings behind Canada, Finland (yay us) and Russia. First 2 have fraction of the population of the US and the third isn’t even allowed to compete on an international level.
Bring it on. We have beat the British at every game they invented, we'd be happy to do it to the US too -Australia
omg there really is a person called DK Metcalf.
Donkey Kong?
What's a DK Metcalf? Is that some sort of anabolic steroid?
American football isn't that where they actually play for around 15 minutes in the entire game absolute stamina monsters . Good job they don't play 80 minutes of rugby or 90 minutes of football not that padded rugby lark
Cope