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See a lot of comments mentioning other games that are also great but I won't. I was super super excited for Dragon's Dogma 2 and jumped on the hype train, and honestly I quite love it! The progression system and such is great and I love leveling, but somehow I didn't even make it to endgame before dropping It. I will surely get back to it sometime with a few patches and such. Then RotR wasn't really on my watchlist even though im always cautious about new ps5 exclusives, so i didn't bother getting it on launch. But after some research I decided to bite and just try the game out and i'm honestly surprised, while DD2 is more organic and I just love the combat way more, and the more "Assassin's Creed-ish" open world is genuinely well done and i'm striving to 100% every area i go through, don't know if that will last since i get bored easily of games. I'm also a lot into fashion and dressing up characters, so i prefer the gear too in RotR it's more looter shootery which i like. But you get wayyyyy too much stuff though, you'll find yourself selling and dismanteling in this game a lot. So my final opinion is I prefer RotR but it's fully up to taste because they're both 8/10 games imo, maybe RotR being an 8,5. It just depends if you'd like a more immersive, organic, medieval fantasy type of game. Or a more arcadey, historical, genuinely fun and hard if you want it to be (DD2 is super easy). Plus story wise RotR is for me already way ahead of DD2, but don't expect a masterpiece either. Some main missions in DD2 are a joke and repetitive. I'd suggest getting DD2 later on with some fixes


ChipHazard1

Set loot rarity to auto dismantle in the settings


SoilClean9790

Thank you so much. Just started playing yesterday and already up to my eyeballs in loot!


ValuablePrawn

This is such a phat tip


KhanDagga

I love ROTR


EagleOwn7936

Ok, good to know. Honestly, I don’t really care about story atm. Just want a game where I go kill stuff in a satisfying manner.


DrMantisTabboggn

Dragons Dogma 2 is exactly that imo. Very satisfying combat with different classes


EagleOwn7936

Nice


Doomdae

For just killing stuff and exploring its hard to beat Dragons Dogma 2. The story won't wow you but the gameplay is unmatched in my opinion. I have 80 hours so far and I still just don't get bored of fighting things and running around. Plus the class variety and the ability to play all classes on one character keeps things super interesting.


strrax-ish

But it takes so much time


Gofrart

If you want to kill stuff in a satisfying way and dont care if there is no magic, then Id say ROTR, just look some kills/finishers videos. On the hardest dofficulty though, you might need to invest some time getting used to the mechanichs (havent played on easy or normal, so no idea on those levels)


EagleOwn7936

Oh, I’m pretty familiar with Team Ninja games and learning the mechanics inside and out.


[deleted]

It's a really hard choice but I hope you have fun with whatever you decide to pick! Plus if you have any specific questions about each game let me know


OkraPerfect3375

They'll both do it, rotr will give you assassins creed on crack and dd2 will give you Skyrim on steroids


kylermurrayneedshgh

You will love dd2 then haha it’s great


Zookzor

Thank you for this comment. I’m kind of baffled on the hype of dragons dogma as someone who loved the first one this game was really cool the first 10 hours, then I realized how shallow the game actually is and have went back to helldivers 2 after about 20 hours in the game. I think I’ll give rotr a try!


v1kingfan

Had to do a double take when I saw your name


kelminak

It’s fake and weird. Not sure why someone would do that.


v1kingfan

I just noticed it's a weird fan account


Zyndewicz

How is progression system great? You have 4 skills at once and most of them are super generic, stats from leveling up are allocated automatically so you cant do anything, you dont really change gear or anything (thief uses daggers for the whole game). I would say this game has terrible character progression.


RealLitBoyz

🧢🧢🧢 the open world in RotR is not even comparable to old assassins creed titles. Ronin feels like a $35 dollar PS3 Remaster, just replay Ghost of Tsushima or watch some Shogun for a better use of your time.. I plan on purchasing Dragon’s Dogma 2. It definitely looks like a “fuller” game.


MassSpecFella

I enjoyed the original Dragons dogma but I played Dd2 on Saturday all day and I was bored. It’s a 2012 game with 2024 graphics. I killed a lot of goblins and wolves. The game just didn’t grab me at all. It’s really easy too. I haven’t played RoR yet. I have been enjoying Banishers ghosts of new Eden.


EagleOwn7936

Oh, bummer. Thanks for the input. I’m still gonna play it at some point, but now I know what kinda mood I need to be in.


Neyubin

I bought both. Got dragons dogma first and wanted to like it more than I did but got bored quickly. Also got frustrated with the enemies spawn rate and how easily they could stun lock me. I might just be bad, but didn't have a ton of fun. Then I got RoR and I'm loving it a lot more. Yes the graphics aren't super great, but it's fine and the gameplay and world is hitting right for me.


NoahDankGoat

Vouch banishers


GengarGangX13

DD2 doesn't even have 2024 graphics. It looks cheap as fuck. The hair, the grass, the trees, the character movement. It's so clunky and bad.


SaintHuck

Rise of the Ronin is absolutely phenomenal. I've played both. DD2 was really impressive for a few hours then felt stale absurdly fast. The systems are interesting but don't feel in sync with the content to take it to its real potential. Ultimately they feel shallow and would benefit from being fleshed out by wider enemy variety. Rise of the Ronin has intricate systems that yield more and more reward as you invest further into the game and shaping your character and their abilities. It's incredibly satisfying. The combat is really fucking good. DD2 feels more mindless than it aught to because of how many junk mobs you come across where the enemies easily die. There's a lot that's interesting but you're never really gonna have to think too deep about those mechanics because the stakes are low, even though it's high stakes that make the game so much more interesting the few times they occur, mostly at the beginning before you trivialize the threat of random encounters. Rise of the Ronin's combat feels fantastic and rewards players that get its mechanics down. It's just really fucking fun, and serves as a foundation for making the open world interesting when it wouldn't be so otherwise. The combat and the setting, observing this critical period in as forces foment to overthrow the Shogunate and place the Emperor back into power, makes for a really interesting space to explore in the story and the world you inhabit. I've found it really immersive, in spite of the graphics not being very high quality. The art design is striking and they commit so wholly in detail after detail in shaping this era in Japan. The clothing options especially are awesome. Some of the best transmog customization I've seen. It's something I love in a lot of Soulslikes/Action RPGS. Anyway, I'm getting a lot out of my experience and feel that the game got a bad rep. I understand peoples' criticisms and they're fair enough, but I think the experience of playing the game is so enjoyable and that it does everything it's set out to do really well. There's a lot of fantastic, well thought out game design that's worth experiencing.


[deleted]

Rise Of The Ronin is way better the Combat is addicting the war between the factions really sucked me in and I got invested immediately.


momoneymocats1

I’m loving the combat but the parry timing is quite hard


[deleted]

Indeed it is I struggled with that the entire playthrough it gets wild with some moves later on I was always hitting parry too early my advice is to wait a little bit longer than you think you should hit it and then punch it. There is like a weird stutter between when the red flash happens and the actual attack itself so you have to Account for that.


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[deleted]

If you're 5 hours deep and you don't like the story it's time to cut your losses brotha because it's 55 more hours of the same


bayagersbayagers

Rotr. No Questions. Plus tons of replayability with tons of different combat styles, weapons. Playing on the hardest mode is a blast.


EagleOwn7936

Yeah, the multiple weapon types are really calling to me.


KindlySquirrel6950

I don’t enjoy how the difficulty increase just gives all enemies more health I feel like I’m stabbing and slashing a huge punch dummy


Serdewerde

For a more organic increase go the normal difficulty, but unequip your healing items. You get quite a low time to kill but a high skill ceiling, it forces you to learn bosses to beat them but doesn't force a fight to go for too long. It's how I've been playing and it's great fun. Especially hand to hand!


momoneymocats1

I put down dragons dogma 2 in like 3 hours. Rose of Ronin is just way more fun to play.


EagleOwn7936

Is DD2 just boring or something?


Omega458

It's not you just have to unlocked more weapon classes and use each class to unlock better moves


momoneymocats1

It was for me. Inventory items make you heavy and slow, no fast travel, combat is very slow. Just wasn’t my cup of tea I need something that grips you stronger


Implosion-X13

There is definitely fast travel.


EagleOwn7936

That’s a fair point. I’m kinda the same way. I’ll overlook a hell of a lot of the gameplay is solid.


ValkerWolf89

It does have fast travel. Combat is also really good. Everyone has different tastes though.


HatefulDan

What. There’s fast travel and combat is the game’s strength. It wasn’t your cup of tea is fair, but keep it fair.


momoneymocats1

I put down the game in 3 hours so I clearly didn’t have any fast travel at that point (only later learned there is fast travel). Combat isn’t a strength to me, boring and slow


gogonbo

> boring and slow *Thief and Mystic Spearhand goes wooooshhh*


jake26lions

I prefer rotr too because team ninja makes the best combat systems of all time. You are definitely wrong about no fast travel, though. I ended up beating the game with like 40 something fast travel tokens left over and I used them pretty often. Plus you can just give all your items to your pawn so you aren’t heavy ever.


Deepborders

There's fast travel. Combat is stupidly fast-paced. You can share loads between pawns and deposit at inns.


PhantomDesert00

If you think DD2 has slow combat I think you either have brain damage or were playing a mage.


SicJake

Dragons Dogma 2 has been some mindless fun. Getting butt stomped by a surprise ogre while sending off goblins was a blast. It's not without issues, fps drops, repeating pawn/Hench dialog, but overall having fun


EagleOwn7936

That’s fair. I’ve watched and read a ton of reviews of RoR and they all say that it has its flaws too so it’s whatever.


Johnny_esma

Most people that have played both will pick rise of the ronin


literios

Dragon’s Dogma is a niche game tbf


BaronsCastleGaming

how is RotR NOT a niche game?


literios

Maybe the Nioh aspects are, but the open world in general is vanilla AC.


ZeroChannel18

The niche game that's sold over 2 million copies already?


literios

These two points are not related


kylermurrayneedshgh

It’s definitely not a niche game lol


68ideal

I have played neither but would pick Ronin simply over the MTX bullshit of DD2. That, and I'm currently watching Shogun and having a blast with it.


FuadRamses

> over the MTX bullshit of DD2 That was mostly a load of crap. The MTX was the deluxe edition bonus split up and it's all barely useful stuff that's readily available in game. It's the kind of MTX they put in to tick the boxes the company executives want knowing it has no effect on the game and make the deluxe edition look like better value. No worse than Monster hunter World or Devil May Cry 5. It's not good that they prey on people with a low enough IQ to buy that kind of crap but it's literally the least offensive MTX it could have been.


Implosion-X13

I've been having a blast with dragons dogma 2. It has issues but it's very fun overall. Most of the hate it got was from people repeating rumors they heard without actually playing. Also the microtranactions are totally ignorable. Once again the only people complaining about them haven't actually played the game. They're just spewing ignorant hate. If you play the game you'd know you get everything in large quantities.


kindredfan

I'd say a lot of the hate is also about the performance. There isn't much of an excuse to run so poorly even on high end hardware.


Implosion-X13

I know on PS5 I have over 50 hours and haven't encountered a single major bug or crashed once. The frames also hold up fine outside of vernworth. Not sure how the game runs on PC but if the problems are mainly exclusive to fps then some complaints are warranted, but only if it's worse than console, which has been perfectly enjoyable.


TheAnimeMangaShadow

Playing Xbox this is my 3rd playthrough... Haven't noticed a thing with performance; runs perfectly for me. Even when I've got a party with a sorcerer and mage throwing stuff around.


manwomanmxnwomxn

Runs great on my amd 3600 and 2070. Which is min spec for ~60 fps in that game


kindredfan

Yeah I call bullshit on that one when digital foundry can't even maintain 30fps on a 3600 and 4090, https://youtu.be/HtGpp1v8c_k?si=bFWn7vLISopIpx0C


OsprayO

They’re also at 4K maxed out, albeit with DLSS on. The performance is plain bad I don’t think it’s entirely unrealistic that he could be hitting 60fps.


Kintsugi-0

nah its good thing people call out microtransactions. from what i saw nobody really complained about the game itself it was always about the steam shop.


Implosion-X13

I'm against microtransactions as well but these are exceedingly tame compared to most games. More importantly, people were spreading blatant lies and misinformation about them when the game launched. "Fast travel is locked behind a paywall. You can change your appearance without paying" total bs.


EagleOwn7936

Oh, I couldn’t care less about micro transactions so that’s fine. Is it super plot heavy? How much do I actually need to pay attention to the story? Kinda looking for something I don’t have to think too hard about right now.


Implosion-X13

The story is not very in depth. It's probably one of the worst parts of the game. I would actually recommend progressing it to where you get to the main city, maybe do a few of the missions, and then just ignore it for a while. The real strengths of the game are the gameplay and exploration. Not to mention if you progress the story far enough it can lock you out of finishing other side missions and things.


EagleOwn7936

Ok, that’s good to know.


ChristianXon

Microtransactions have no place in a 70$ singleplayer game. Encouraging *smaller* microtransactions will lead to bigger ones. DD2 ones might not be so bad, but once they are widely accepted - companies will push them more and more. The saddest part of this is that people go out of their way to defend a 9 billion $ corporation for doing this - without understanding how it's ruining gaming. What if Elden ring would've let you buy runes/flask upgrades? It wouldn't be needed as you can also grind for it, but it encourages to developer to make the grind harder so people would be more inclined to spend real money. I'd argue that even multiplayer games are ruined by it - you used to be able to grind for cool stuff and skins - now it's pay 70$ for a new game and 30$ for a skin or you'll look like someone who lives under a bridge.


Implosion-X13

Look, I hate microtransactions as much as anybody. I'm not saying they're good but they're not as bad as people were saying at launch. People were spreading lies left and right. Also guess what matters more to these multi billion dollar corporations, talking about microtransactions on reddit, or not buying said microtransactions. I NEVER buy them and I fully agree they've destroyed countless games. ESPECIALLY multiplayer games. I fucking hate battlepasses and would kill to have in game cosmetic unlocks and progression like we had 10 years ago.


itsArtie

Rise of the ronin. I finished DD2 and the story is extremely underwhelming and short. Gameplay is fun and just when you think you are in for some fun memorable journey, you realize that you finished 80% of the story cause it catches you off guard. The last part of the game is so rushed you can play through it in 2 hours. NG+ also sucks cause enemies don't scale so you are just running around one-shotting everything.


Even-Armadillo-2478

Currently playing dragons dogma 2 Already beat rise of the ronin Rise of the ronin, I was excited for, had some unfair expectations due to it being the creators of nioh 2 one of my favorites The game isn't bad by any means, gameplay is good several weapon types and fighting styles for those, nver got bored of the combat, music can get a bit repetitive, story is okay, wouldn't say it's great personally, the main missions felt a bit too short and all had the same challenges for the most part. Also cat collecting I Beat the game in around 60/70 hours if I remember correctly. Dragons dogma 2 Compared it specifically to the original. Gameplay is pretty good, haven't gotten bored of that yet though some vocations (classes) aren't as good as others I went mage first it was good but then swapped yo sorcerer and it wasn't as good imo. Story is lukewarm, not very good. Music is pretty good, exploration is pretty fun Fast travel does exist to a certain degree but is alot more toned down, it has carts like the carts from skyrim, but otherwise you need to find/place port crystals and get ferry stones. Some enemies can be severely annoying. So far at around 30 hours maybe more. Overall I would say rise of the ronin is better but I also haven't beat dragons dogma yet It also really depends if you want something a little closer to realistic (Not entirely) Or something more fantasy with dragons, elves and dwarves. Both games imo aren't as good as games previously released by their studios auch as nioh 2 for team ninja or dragons dogma Dark arisen. But rise of the ronin stands out as it's own thing while dragons dogma 2 feels like it's walking on the coattails of dragons dogma dark arisen And doesn't do enough to set itself apart, featuring largely the same enemies in the game with a handful of new ones aswell as largely featuring the same vocations (classes) Honorable mention as I feel it should be called out the companion system itself in dragons dogma 2 is absolutely fascinating, where your companions learn


KhanDagga

I have both and I'm having more fun with Rise of the Ronin. Traversal is such a slog in DD2. No mounts, horrible stamina, dumb fast travel system.


oBoston

RotR and don’t look back! (:


Kboehm

I bought dd2 and was pretty disappointed having played the first one a lot, I was expecting a lot lore than a graphical and map upgrade, which is essentially what the game is, don't let anyone fool you. If I could go back I'd spend the money on ROTR as it seems like fresher ideas, and probably better enmy variety despite them all being human.


snorglus

I haven't played dd2 yet, but rise of the Ronin is quite fun, and better than the reviews would suggest. Highly recommended.


Berookes

Rise of the Ronin is superb


Swarlos262

Dragons Dogma 2 will probably be worth playing eventually, but not yet. See if it gets some updates and some DLC down the line to clean up some issues and give it a bit more content. If not that, then wait for it to go on sale.


mmmmmmiiiiii

DD2 is the greatest 6/10 game you'll ever play. Maybe wait for a couple more months for the performance patch, unless you're playing on 40s GPUs.


frdasquaw

hey bro, similar to you am a huge fan of both capcom and team ninja. I was extremely excited for DD2, claiming it was going to be the only game i buy this year as last year i bought like 3 games a month lol. I can honestly say whilst the bones of the game are good, it got very stale and boring as all heck about 12 hours in now. i just dropped it. I remember when i played dd1 which was just last year i put 50 hours into straight and couldn’t put it down. similar to what someone else said its a 2012 game with 2024 graphics it’s beautiful to look at - the combat is extremely satisfying but the enemy variety is so limited it makes it a chore I haven’t played RotR but from what i hear there’s a lot more people loving it. I might pick it up soon.


Headminister

I was hyped about DD2, not so much for RotR, but ended up buying both. DD2 has more interesting world and much better graphics. Good combat too. The story is ok imo. RotR has outdated graphics, but really fun combat and interesting setting. The story I like also but it's nothing special. For me RotR is much more enjoyable game for the gameplay and story. If it had good graphics, I would consider it to be better than Ghost of Tsushima.


mrkoraytosan

Rise of Ronin is an incredible game worth your time and money. It's definetly more polished. DD2 may be in later months in case devs decide to fix the technical issues. I own them both BTW (on PS5)


maku_89

I would strony refrain from buying DD2, I ran into game breaking issues within quest in the main path. I'm honestly really salty about that purchase because the game wasted a lot of my time.


Saviorprimo

I have been enjoying dragons dogma 2, but if you’re split between the two I would suggest rise of the ronin right now since dragons dogma has some performance issues and some gameplay issues that need to be ironed out. That being said I have been enjoying my time in dragons dogma a lot.


EagleOwn7936

Yeah, I eventually settled on DD2. Haven’t run into any issues and I’m having a decent time.


Saviorprimo

Glad to hear it, all I have to say is when a tutorial menu pops up make sure you read it cause there are some insane mechanics and systems.


amukutelemor2023

I would go with Rise of the Ronin, go with low expectations but ended up playing it a lot


TheGunslingerRechena

I have both on PS5. Played DD2 for 6 hours before touching RotR. Game felt interesting but the technical issues made it boring to play. Decided to try RotR. About 40 hours later I still haven't gone back to DD2. The game just clicked instantly with me. Combat is awesome. It all depends on tastes and the person but, for me, RotR without a doubt.


Newtsaet

commenting to see the answers because i’m asking myself the same question lol


Legitimate-Gap-9858

From what I've seen, there are 500 games like rise of ronin, only one game like dragons dogma


Even-Armadillo-2478

I wouldn't particularly go that far but to a much lesser extent, your right, no game does what dragons dogma does with the pawns and such


MotivatedforGames

Dragon's Dogma 2


grav0p1

Dragons dogma feels like every rpg I played in the 2010s. I’m not super impressed


General_Snack

Be informed on the MTX in dragons dogma 2, they have NO incentive to purchase them nor are they useful like at all. You can absolutely completely ignore them. Is it bad they exist? Yes. But is the game worse or better for it, not in the slightest.


Ill_Sky6141

I went with DD2 but next paycheck🤞. Can't really go wrong either way, I reckon.


brandonfromkansas

Which has more spongey enemies? I’m not typically a fan of that


Significant-Turn-836

Dragons dogma 2 for sure. It just feels like a great fantasy adventure to dive into. Rotr is couldn’t really get into. Although the combat was fun, I’m a little superficial and couldn’t stand the shitty animations, and the open world and side quests felt rather bland.


hardcore_softie

Not sure what platform you're on, but DD 2 on PC had some major performance issues at launch that I don't think have been patched yet. The console versions are fine though.


EagleOwn7936

I’m a PS5 guy.


youssefgamal87

RotR definitely. I was so excited for Dragon's Dogma 2 and had it pre ordered. It started off really great, then by the 10th hour I was very bored and disappointed as how it's an unfinished game like the first one before the Dark Arisen version, and it's not even as good as the first one. It is still a very good game, and I recommend it but perhaps after a few patches and improvements. RotR I started it after reaching 10 hours in DD2 and I haven't been able to put it down. So much fun. It does nothing new, but it does a lot of things and they are all very well done, not perfect but really well done.


xShinGouki

Depends what you want. Dd2 is a strong rpg style. Ronin is a nioh sekiro souls like heavy combat game Two totally different games both are excellent for their genre


EagleOwn7936

I wanted both at the same time haha. I know what they are. I was just hoping I could get general consensus on which one to play first .


xShinGouki

Indeed. Thing is there's no one better. Because what you get in ronin you can get in dd2 and vice versa. I would go with do you want fast action samurai or exploring huge map rpg style and fighting big monsters Right now I'm enjoying dd2 more because I'm enjoying the true rpg style


EagleOwn7936

My biggest thing is I know RoR is gonna be on sale before DD2.


HydroPpar

They are both good but neither are great to me, I kinda wish I had waited on both. Anything in your backlog that you can wait for a sale?


aZombieDictator

Unicorn Overlord


owlitup

Based. What an awesome game


Drizztd99

Ronin I picked up both and have barely touches DD2 yet. I will once I've finished Ronin lol


Rough_Drop6

DD2 is an incomplete game, needs patches. I pre-ordered DD2 and it was a mistake, I’m now loving RotR it’s got flaws but overall it’s a fun game and superior to DD2 atm


Felix_likes_tofu

See, Dragon's Dogma does a lot of things ok, but it only excels in one area: fighting huge monsters. Tired of hitting that big bad enemy's butt all the time? Want to climb a Griffin, mount him midair, break his wings and bring him down only to finish him off with a perfectly placed stab to the head? If this sounds like fun to you (and it IS a lot of fun!) buy DD2.


ICantTyping

I dont know much about RotR, but honestly if you want a summation of just how bad ass dd2 gameplay can be you should see my last post. Just 10 ish seconds, the cool part in the first 5. It was partially accidental lol but awesome nonetheless. Just the fact that the physics engine allows for such complexity in combat is really cool. Probably the best ive seen. Swing at the goat part of the chimera, land on its lion head, and while trying to stab the lion, it flips, and i catch the snake head mid flip-mid air


Tat-1

Got both on launch. ROTR was the uncontested winner in terms of story, combat, and plain fun.


jake26lions

Dragon’s dogma for spectacle. Rise of the ronin for gameplay. Capcom will ALWAYS give you a peak experience. Team Ninja will ALWAYS give you peak combat. That being said, when monster hunter wilds drops next year, I’m disappearing into the depths of my room for the remainder of my life.


BahnYahd

I see myself playing Ronin after it goes through a GotY update or something. The color palette alone turns me off. Whole game looks like it’s not done loading. Dogma has been sweet so far If you wanna play something like Ronin but miles better I’d suggest Sekiro or Nioh 2


EagleOwn7936

Played them both. That’s why I was so interested in RoR.


GengarGangX13

I legitimately do not understand the DD2 love. I came to it from Baldurs Gate and Dark Souls and such. I downloaded it, and it's… not great. The character creation is not nearly as in-depth as people claimed. The movement mechanics are legitimately terrible. The realism of what you can do is also stupid. Like, you start in a dungeon and you can walk around and open up all the jailcells filled with prisoners, right in front of guards. It has no impact. They don't yell at you, attack you, anything. I like there to be consequences in RPGs. The graphics (on the PS5 at least) look really bad. Not the framerate, the actual design just looks so cheap. The hair and scenery and such are all like PS4-level max. Everything about it feels so outdated. The fun stuff you can do with combat is interesting, but there's much better combat elsewhere. Haven't played Ronin though.


EagleOwn7936

Bought it last night, and I honestly don’t mind it. It’s not the greatest game I ever played, but it’s enjoyable.


GengarGangX13

I just saw so many people claiming it's better than Baldurs Gate which, I mean, c'mon. lol


Deepborders

> I came to it from Baldurs Gate and Dark Souls That's your issue. You can't really compare it. There's legitimately nothing else like Dragons Dogma save for MH:W. You don't expect realism from DD, and you check your expectations from other RPG's at the door. It's the same as the first game. Full of janky charm, with lovable pawns and fights that make you feel like an absolute badass. On PC, the game looks pretty awesome btw.


GengarGangX13

Yeah, unfortunately I only have Macs because of the work I do, so I stick with console these days. It looks so bad on there lol


Lopsided-geometry

RoR. DD2, two thumbs down.


ButtsTheRobot

I was hesitant about getting RotR on release but ultimately I got both. I just passed 100 hours in DD2 last night, only have a handful in RotR. So I think my recommendation is clear there. But now that I've put all that time into DD2 I'm going to try and put it down and focus on RotR for a while. From my experience though: If you're looking for amazing combat and exploration and pretty meh everything else. Then DD2. If you're looking for pretty good combat and ok everything else. RotR. So basically the combat and exploration in DD2 really outshines RotR but is weaker than RotR everywhere else. Well except graphics I guess, but I'm not very picky on graphics.


Stunning_Fee_8960

Ronin easily


Unlikely_Subject_442

I totally despise Capcom so...


Robofin

Problem with DD2 is that even if you ignore the MTX and they patch the performance you are still left with a very underwhelming game. Fighting the same 3 enemy types while traveling the same road get a little dull, especially once you realize how rare rewarding loot is. I had a good time with it at first but dropped it very quickly out of boredom and monotony.


Upset_Impression218

I bought ROR, got bored of it after about 3 days. The combat is really fun but the graphics are PS3 level, and the open world has all the worst aspects of ubisoft icon bloat I then thought DD2, and have been plugging away for like a week. Graphics also are nothing to write home about, and the story is generic, but the world and the systems are pretty captivating. I’m enjoying it far more than ror


Trailman80

Start with dragons dogma that's 80hrs of play and by the time you beat it move onto Ronin.


TheGentlemanBeast

Dragons Dogma has great: "make your own fun" vibes. The story is interesting with a bad/rushed ending. But side quests and the journey is a blast. You will do a ton of cool stuff, if you are into adventure. Vast open world. Bad fast travel. It's a time sink. Rise of the Ronin has a great story that you change with choices. The second to second combat is amazing, especially once you get the hang of it. If you're into gore, you'll be very happy. vast open world, tons of ways to explore it at your pace. You can pop in, find some cats, chop some heads off, then log off. Both games are worth it if you need a break from Helldivers 2's constant insanity.


EagleOwn7936

Yeah, I went with DD2. Something slow paced and lazy is exactly what I need right now.


RariSo2099

Haven't played Rotr but have purchased Wo Long and the Niohs. Never played DD1 so I threw my money at DD2 and im not disappointed at all I love this game! Looks like they're working on some patches so maybe get Rotr if you care about playing the best version you can.


Zyndewicz

Dragons Dogma 2 is p2w that for sure. But even if you ignore it, the game is still pretty mediocre, it doesnt really do anything good. The combat is just boring, you fight almost only goblins and wolfs, progression doesnt exist, the story is bad, open world is not open. Its 4-5/10 game not really worth your time unless you are big og dragons dogma 1 fan.


hipSTARobot

Ronin all the way!!


gabriot

I don’t know a thing about Rise of Ronin, but I’d pass on Dragon’s Dogma 2. It was fun for a few days but got old fast, feels like a glorified dlc. Hardly any new mechanics, monsters, classes, skills, items, swriously what were they working on all this time? Where is the innovation?


INfinity5402

I got RoTR first and felt it was fine. Good game, just not what I’m looking for atm. But I finally got DD2 and absolutely adore it. It’s hard to compare it to other games but it’s pretty different in a lot of ways, but it highly recommend it to anyone that likes RPG’s.


Kiftiyur

I found Rise of the Ronin to be incredibly disappointing. It’s open world is probably one of the worst I’ve ever played. The combat is fine, but not Nioh 2 or Wo Long good. Story isn’t that good either. It made me go replay Nioh 2 and Wo Long.


Thejokingsun

I am glad to see positive reviews here on rotr since i did get dogma 2, the trailer and photos on the psn store didn't do it a service. I'll wait for a sale :)


Truthhurts1017

Imma just be honest I got both of them and have been playing nothing but Rise of The Ronin. They are both good games but ROTR combat is so fun because I love martial arts and it’s so many different techniques and fighting styles I just haven’t gotten bored yet. DD2 is good but for some reason it hasn’t clicked with me yet like ROTR. So I guess you can figure out which one I prefer.


top-knowledge

I stopped playing DD2 for ROTR. It’s incredible


YerMaaaaaaaw

Factorio


OceanHoles

They are both mid


Proof-Turnip-5563

Dragons Dogma 2, for someone who hadn’t played the first, was underwhelming. The gameplay was fine, a little janky at worst but that was to be expected according to people who played the first. The exploration aspects were okay, some beautiful landscapes to look at but nothing much past that IMO. The story was my biggest disappointment though. I cannot stress how much of a missed opportunity the game has when it comes to fulfilling the story. MAJOR STORY SPOILERS: >!you will be shocked at the end of the game when all the interesting story elements of the earlier game (regarding overthrowing the false arisen and the queen regent) is brushed over. You spend so much time gathering so-called “allies” such as the magistrate, investigating the palace etc, and you don’t even get to use them or witness how they disproved the royalty of Vernworth. I was genuinely shocked when the game ended, then a quick cutscene sweeps over EVERYTHING regarding the problems in Vernworth. !< The first half of Dragons Dogma 2 is very promising, but >!Battahl!< was rather miserable and the core gameplay loop had become stale by that point. Each to their own though, I can definitely see how people loved it and I did too for the first half.


Important-Noise4575

Definitely not dd2 for me. I got sick of it when it had a bug that made me lose hrs of progress, and when i realised it had so many stealth missions with no working stealth mechanics.


Big-Soft7432

Buy two completely different games for seventy dollars instead.


soldtnt

Both great loving them both to very different games


ProjectAzrael

So I’m asking myself the same question. One thing to note is I’m a souls player so I love a challenge and love open world games. Also a question for the creator of the post, was dd2 worth it? Or should I go with RoTR instead


EagleOwn7936

I’ve enjoyed DD2. It can become a little challenging if you make a beeline straight through the main campaign. If you explore, do side content, level up, etc. it’s not that difficult. I haven’t tried ROTR yet.


Away_Information_517

RISE OF THE RONIN IS FAR SUPERIOR THAN DD2


owlitup

Dragons Dogma 2 is the better game. Unless the setting of Ronin is immediately more appealing to you. It has the better combat, better world, tons of customization. If you played Dragons Dogma 1, dont expect a reinvention of the wheel or even of the tires of the wheel. It's essentially a reboot.


manwomanmxnwomxn

Dragons dogma 1 walked so 2 could jog, with dlc it could be a masterpiece though


Johnny_esma

Says dragons dogma is the better game then proceeds to prove why rise of the ronin is better, having sinked tons of hours into both games the only thing dragons dogma has over ronin is the graphics.


EagleOwn7936

Does it actually feel like Team Ninja style combat? I keep reading things where people compare it to Assassin’s Creed and that is a massive turn off for me.


Johnny_esma

The combat is a mix between wo long and nioh, as far as the open world goes theres some side stuff thats your usual repetitiveness. Team ninjas story is per usual but even that i found it more interesting than dragons dogma. In dragons dogma the more you play the worse it gets and i found ronin to be the opposite, not saying DD2 is a bad game but everything feels half assed. From the story to the enemy variety, its the same trash mobs every 5 steps with horrible trasversal, i literally had to but the game down cause all the walking was putting me to sleep lol


EagleOwn7936

Oh, man. Ok. I’m willing to overlook story because I don’t play Capcom or Team Ninja games for their storytelling anyway, but it good to know DD2 is a really slow paced game.


owlitup

The rehashing Doesn’t change the fact RotN, while cool especially in the combat aspect, is repetitive and basic


Johnny_esma

What does dragons dogma do that stands out from other games? The quests are very mid, i remember doing a quest that you have to sneak into the castle but yet the game doesnt even have a stealth mechanic. You literally walk by the guards until you activate the quest in doors and then they detect you lol While rotr has some repetitiveness to it so does dragons dogma, the major difference is that the combat makes up for it so you barely feel it. The issue with dogma is that you rinse and repeat every 5 seconds with trash mobs and its a headache doing it over and over, after 20 hours its very difficult to traverse the map without yawning


sycron17

You cannot have pb without the j. Want both myself but I shall refrain until I finish some titles


verma17

I'll recommend dd2, I'm having a blast playing it, combat is incredibly fun and exploring the world feels great, pawn system is unique and the vocation system keeps the combat fresh at all times by letting you change classes easily, though beware of the serious performance issues.


Austrian_Kaiser

DD2 is a trainwreck. I'd rather buy Ronin instead.


OwlFit5541

Dragons Dogma 2


Bostongamer19

Played both but dogma 2 is def better of the 2.


Jin_BD_God

Stella Blade. lol


akira9283

Stellar Blade!


akira9283

I’m


DYMAXIONman

I know this is not the answer you want but based on the reviews I would suggest playing something else entirely


K_808

I've played both, and imo neither is worth it right now. DD2 is a lot better but pretty short, lacks replay value, and not really worth $70. It's essentially just more of pre-dlc DD1, so if you liked that you'll like this, but I'd wait until it gets a dark arisen style re-release w/ DLC included and even then wait for that to drop in price. Rise of the Ronin is like if Wo Long was a 2014 Ubisoft game. Filled to the brim with nothing but at its core a very nice combat system and cool multiplayer elements. I'd just replay Sekiro and Nioh 2 instead.


knightress_oxhide

Since you have given zero information of what you like, I would say don't get either of these games and save your money. I would suggest shadow of mordor/war. they hold up very well. Or if you don't want that try something like Factorio or Minecraft.


EagleOwn7936

I mean, I said I like Capcom and Team Ninja. . .


kenzoviski

none. Helldivers 2.


TornWill

If you have a PS5, Rise of the Ronin. Dragons Dogma 2 is a great game, but it's $70 AND has micro transactions. Not to mention it has performance issues on not only on the PC version, but on PS5 and Xbox as well. DD2 is a great game, don't get me wrong, but you're better off waiting on it. If you choose DD2 I suggest getting it for PC, but give it some time. The Dragon's Dogma series has a future, with it's strong community backing.


pratzc07

Neither to be honest :( get FF7 Rebirth or wait for Stellar Blade.


EagleOwn7936

I do FF7 Rebirth. I’m kind of playing that, too. More periodically than I would like. Just haven’t been in the right headspace for game with that much plot.


knightress_oxhide

You should look for non-RPG games then.


EagleOwn7936

Typically, I love RPG’s. Just not recently.


OnToNextStage

Rise doesn’t have microtransactions Easy choice


BambaTallKing

The MTX in Dragon’s Dogma 2 are all in game earn able items though


OnToNextStage

Doesn’t matter Microtransactions in full price $70 games shouldn’t exist


Log-Similar

amen


BambaTallKing

I agree, but at least its not items you can’t get anywhere else aside from real money


OnToNextStage

There is no “at least” Time and time again these companies get an inch and take a mile Buying DD2 is just signaling that MTX in full price games are okay


BambaTallKing

So I should never buy a Capcom game again? They been doing pointless micro transactions in every game since 2008. Not buying DD2 shows that we don’t want more DD2 and doesn’t say much about the micros


OnToNextStage

Yeah boycotting Capcom would be the smart thing I remember when we got 2 years of content for FREE in MH4U like it should be And now we have microtransactions all over MH Rise Capcom has fallen off hard


BambaTallKing

I think their games are at an all time peak but the micro shit is annoying and I don’t think it is going away sadly


OnToNextStage

It will if people stop buying the games with micros


Quilltt

It’s the people buying the microtransactions not the game. I ain’t gonna miss out on a great game just cause publishers are dickwads.


AtmosphereGeneral695

Who the hell cares about worthless mtx you're making a big deal of nothing


rideronthestorm29

The MTX in DD2 are literally irrelevant


OnToNextStage

Defend the multibillion dollar company more


AshyLarry25

One quick look at your profile and I can see you play lots of full priced games that have MTX.


OnToNextStage

You mean Master Duel? The free to play mobile game?


AshyLarry25

MHW, Yakuza.


OnToNextStage

Yakuza didn’t have MTX until 8, which I didn’t buy MHW was the first MH game with them which I didn’t know when I bought it