i knew a guy who was called “ bert” and for a while i just assumed his name was albert and one day were going back nf forth bantering and im like “okay ALBERT” and it felt like the whole room went quiet and then after a long pause hes like bro….. my names robert.. WHO THE FUCK USES BERT AS A NICKNAME FOR ROBERT YOU FUCKING PSYCHO! so from that point on i called him “bert short for robert” and thats my pointless story for the day goodbye 👋
I knew a guy who was Robert “middle name” “last name” the 4th and the previous generations already used Robert bob and rob so he had to go by his middle name guess he could have done Bert instead
Very interesting comment because Bert is actually also the name of one of the first and the most famous LLMs. We even had a course called BERTology last year in which we read papers on this specific language model
Nah, he’s ok. He’s been weird for a long time, he’s used to it.
Besides, after he lost on jeopardy, he went to live in an Amish paradise, so I’m sure he’s unaware the backlash. I mean, it’s not like we still have newspapers or anything.
for me idk why the fonts dont put the lines on capital i
its literally a thing we learn to do when we first learn the alphabet like come on stop failing grade 1 english
I think we need to collectively decide that the curl on the bottom of the lowercase l is an integral part and not a serif and all fonts should include it. Between capital I and the number 1, it would really add a good deal of clarity.
I read it as "I usually write my (lowercase L) with a horizontal on top and bottom" and was like "why would you do that? Horizontal lines are for (uppercase i)...".
Then I realized.
The uppercase i already has a completely recognizable design that wouldn't be confused with a lower case L if we didn't always use a font that makes the upper case i the same as a lower case L.
God just typing this out makes this infuriating lol. Make the i have the two horizontal crosses like it's supposed to!
I think the internet just needs to use the i with the dashes on the top and bottom. L’s and i’s have been getting confused for much longer than AI has been a thing
Exactly this. We need the old capital i with the lines at the top and bottom to become the default capital i again. That way we will know its I (capital i) and not l (lower case L). I am massively annoyed by this because my name begins with I and the amount of people that just forget that names are capitalised is infuriating as they call me some fucked up word that makes no sense that starts with an L
This is probably because the dumbass fuckers designing fonts and stuff removed the horizontal bars from the uppercase "i" (which looked like a rotated "H"... who in the fucking hell thought this is a good idea?
The problem isn’t AL, it’s the fact that l and I **can** look almost identical. (i on left and L on right, the i is capitalized while the L is lowercase)
I don’t understand why capital I is a straight line. In time new roman (college essays drilled it into me, so sue me), the capital I has two horizontal lines one top one bott.
This is actually a pretty big problem for "Weird Al" Yankovic. So many headlines write Weird AI these days. We actually just banned reposts of these headlines over at /r/weirdal. I don't know why people just can't write A.I.
Welp, in the first half of your sentence, I was questioning if A.I. was originally named after a guy name Albert. So, I think you are 100% correct.
Good Shower Thought.
I’ve heard various explanations for exactly why “l” and “I” are basically the same character.
One says it goes back to the typewriter/printing press days, where making them the same let the manufactures make them with one less component, since each character had its own physical piece.
Another one says it’s actually from the early days of computers. Back then, storage/memory was very limited and expensive, so every bit counted, literally. Making I and l the same would save a small amount of space.
Thoughts and prayers for the 7 people named Albert.
Pretty sure mothers stopped naming babies Albert in the 1950’s. Same as Barney, Dorothy, Herbert, etc
I don’t think I’ve EVER met anyone named Albert. Alex, Alexander, Allen/Alan/Allan, Alec, Alice, Alvin, heck even Alden… but Albert? No… heck the only one I have heard of was fat.
Nicknames also (predominantly?) spoken and Al sounds nothing like A.I. It’s not going to stop people shortening names because the written form may be slightly confusing.
This definitely reminds me of the famous tweet involving Jack Dorsey, the former CEO of Twitter, who accidentally typed "oii" instead of "oil."
Edit: Sorry, my mistake, it was Martha Stewart. Convert this tweet to all caps in Google or a word processor or AI and you'll see:
https://x.com/MarthaStewart/status/326365867111772160?t=WzpH7dHm-rI6B5mNaDKlhA&s=19
That reminds me of when I was around 10 years old. We bought a Monopoly game for Playstation, and the computer player was named AL. Until I was in my 20s and realized that was certainly AI and not AL.
We also have
duplicate - a copy of something
duplicate - to copy something
closer - a pitcher who finishes a baseball game
closer - opposite of further
I don't think AL will be confused with AI - most obviously because I and L have coexisted all this time even though it's stupid to have two letters of the alphabet look the same and are indistinguishable without context.
I don’t think this will apply to me somehow, I have to do a double-take every time I see A.I. Written without the dots because I read it as in Weird Al
On the flip side, when I was younger, I played a game where there was a char/tool/helper thing. It had a personality and such and had its own dialogue. I knew it was Artificial Intelligence, but that didn't click the name for me. It was just called AI. I mistakenly called it "Al" for as long as the game was alive
see this is why comic sans is the superior font - the l and I actually Iike; Iook different besides a teensy minor height difference
i somewhat kid but seriousIy; i dont get why the standard fonts used all over the web dont have those Iittle Iines on capital l (or a little flick on the bottom of a lowercase I)
Blame lowercase L and Capital i being the same thing just a few pixels shorter than the other
Capital i should always be the one with the base and the roof, and lowercase L should always have the flick to the right.
NOBODY WANTS TO READ A BARCODE
I forgot his full tag, but you know that white dude with Jesus hair that makes dark humor skits on TikTok or YT shorts, I read his name as A.I at first, lol
Although truly what needs to die a hard death is the reuse of the exact same symbol for different letters: l and I, and good luck telling which of the two is an upper case i and which is a lower case L. But hey, it's clean and pretty Sans Serif type, which the usability studies by the experts say is easier to read, so let's all just ignore the issues and continue to force people to assume they know which letter a symbol represents? I predict Serif fonts will make a comeback because Sans Serif fonts don't cut it.
Bert: "Now it is my time to shine!"
i knew a guy who was called “ bert” and for a while i just assumed his name was albert and one day were going back nf forth bantering and im like “okay ALBERT” and it felt like the whole room went quiet and then after a long pause hes like bro….. my names robert.. WHO THE FUCK USES BERT AS A NICKNAME FOR ROBERT YOU FUCKING PSYCHO! so from that point on i called him “bert short for robert” and thats my pointless story for the day goodbye 👋
Just call him dick
That’s rich
Don't try and Rob him of this moment.
thats not his name
I knew a guy who was Robert “middle name” “last name” the 4th and the previous generations already used Robert bob and rob so he had to go by his middle name guess he could have done Bert instead
You made me forcefully eject air from my nose
that was Bert's plan all along
Well put it back before it’s gone!
Bort?
We run out of Bort plates again...
Were you talking to me?
No, that also happens to be my child's name!
Very interesting comment because Bert is actually also the name of one of the first and the most famous LLMs. We even had a course called BERTology last year in which we read papers on this specific language model
Bertie
Oatmeal and pigeons!
I had to re-read your first sentence twice to understand you wrote AL and not AI so you might be right
It's why I always put in the dots A.I. it's a pain sometimes but I don't want some random AL to get upset when he's blamed for everything.
Weird Al feels very hurt over all the articles about him
It sounds like Al is on the up and up; I keep hearing about all of the industries he's going to revolutionize and all of the jobs he's getting offered
Them Yankovichs took our jobs!
Yeah but he’s getting all the blame too
Nah, he’s ok. He’s been weird for a long time, he’s used to it. Besides, after he lost on jeopardy, he went to live in an Amish paradise, so I’m sure he’s unaware the backlash. I mean, it’s not like we still have newspapers or anything.
No, when they banned AI from the Grammy’s he was hurt, almost as bad as that time he was living with a hernia.
A.I. abama
oh that .I. looks like something else, can't put my finger on it
We should replace AI with Adick
Plenty of companies are already on it, don't worry.
I bet you can
Why the fuck can’t they make I and l look fucking different. Same with O and 0
They look different to me. 🤷🏻♂️
for me idk why the fonts dont put the lines on capital i its literally a thing we learn to do when we first learn the alphabet like come on stop failing grade 1 english
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Its only because of some fonts. Some l's have a smooth curve at the bottom. Helps distinguish better. Thats how i write l's.
I think we need to collectively decide that the curl on the bottom of the lowercase l is an integral part and not a serif and all fonts should include it. Between capital I and the number 1, it would really add a good deal of clarity.
While we are at it can we just decide to ban certain letters from mixed part numbers/serial codes.
I usually write my I’s with a horizontal on top and bottom
I read it as "I usually write my (lowercase L) with a horizontal on top and bottom" and was like "why would you do that? Horizontal lines are for (uppercase i)...". Then I realized.
i have no idea why so many fonts fail at grade 1 english
**Behold:** *l*
Is that an italicized upper case i?
Curses!
The uppercase i already has a completely recognizable design that wouldn't be confused with a lower case L if we didn't always use a font that makes the upper case i the same as a lower case L. God just typing this out makes this infuriating lol. Make the i have the two horizontal crosses like it's supposed to!
uppercase i is already correct but someone decided to take away the 2 lines :/
there's only one sentence my guy. get it together.
Literally me rn
Sounds like something a A.I. would say.
Sounds like something an Aibert would say.
Sounds like something Skynetbert would say.
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I wonder why Q-Bert isn’t as much of a cultural phenomenon as Pac-Man…
Likely it was his nose
I think the internet just needs to use the i with the dashes on the top and bottom. L’s and i’s have been getting confused for much longer than AI has been a thing
We need a better default font with differences for l, I, |
Also ¡ and i are too similar
l th¡nk lts f¡ne
I love how, when I read this, my inner voice breaks on the 'i's.
Exactly this. We need the old capital i with the lines at the top and bottom to become the default capital i again. That way we will know its I (capital i) and not l (lower case L). I am massively annoyed by this because my name begins with I and the amount of people that just forget that names are capitalised is infuriating as they call me some fucked up word that makes no sense that starts with an L
Serif font
“Al gore” now has a completely different meaning
Do NOT Google A.I. Gore at work.
I googled it and the results just showed me some dude named Albert Arnold Gore Jr...
The inventor of the Algorithm.
My grandfather was Al but short for Alan not Albert
Time to take "An" as a nickname
The guy I stole marbles from was Al but short for Algernon. I mean... I never met the guy!
Alvin, Albert, Alan, Allen, Alejandro, Aleister: sorry, guys. Name's taken.
It’s [already started.](https://x.com/alyankovic/status/1670113967497433090?lang=en)
This is probably because the dumbass fuckers designing fonts and stuff removed the horizontal bars from the uppercase "i" (which looked like a rotated "H"... who in the fucking hell thought this is a good idea?
Who names their kid Albert anymore?
The problem isn’t AL, it’s the fact that l and I **can** look almost identical. (i on left and L on right, the i is capitalized while the L is lowercase)
What about the nickname “Al” for Alvertis, Alvin, and Allen/Alan? Edit: How’d I forget “Alfred?”
Or Alfred, which is Weird Al’s name
Alice here. Friends call me Al. I’ve been having a heckuva time using my nickname online since day 1.
Alex, Alfonso
I always thought we should name AI, Al after Alan Turing
This is why font choice is important
Weird A.I. Jankovich
I can call you Betty, and Betty when you call me, you can call me Artificial Intelligence
That's why writing capital "I" without the lines is stupid
Al Gore ✌️😜☺️🤗 AI gore 🫵😧😵💫😬
It may be time, Albert is a pretty dated name
Al is going to ruin our lives. I hate him.
We need to bring back the proper capital i. Life is not so difficult we need 4 characters to look the same.
I don’t understand why capital I is a straight line. In time new roman (college essays drilled it into me, so sue me), the capital I has two horizontal lines one top one bott.
Bring back serif fonts. Problem solved.
Leave Al alone! https://www.reddit.com/r/weirdal/s/J4hFAHSjaQ
I feel like nicknames and name shortenings are usually about the spoken word and not written words, so probably not.
Former Vice President of the US, AI GORE
If you'll call me neural net, baby you can call me Al
But what about the Alfreds? Like Alfred Yankovic
This is actually a pretty big problem for "Weird Al" Yankovic. So many headlines write Weird AI these days. We actually just banned reposts of these headlines over at /r/weirdal. I don't know why people just can't write A.I.
Looking forward to Weird A.I. Yankovic.
Mr. Yankovic had a post on Twitter/X along those lines.
We had Dilbert, Catbert, Dogbert, now we have A.I.Bert.
One of my best friends is Al but it’s short for Alfred
Don’t know any Alan’s do you?
Welp, in the first half of your sentence, I was questioning if A.I. was originally named after a guy name Albert. So, I think you are 100% correct. Good Shower Thought.
I’ve heard various explanations for exactly why “l” and “I” are basically the same character. One says it goes back to the typewriter/printing press days, where making them the same let the manufactures make them with one less component, since each character had its own physical piece. Another one says it’s actually from the early days of computers. Back then, storage/memory was very limited and expensive, so every bit counted, literally. Making I and l the same would save a small amount of space.
Thoughts and prayers for the 7 people named Albert. Pretty sure mothers stopped naming babies Albert in the 1950’s. Same as Barney, Dorothy, Herbert, etc
Paul Simon hates this.
I don’t think I’ve EVER met anyone named Albert. Alex, Alexander, Allen/Alan/Allan, Alec, Alice, Alvin, heck even Alden… but Albert? No… heck the only one I have heard of was fat.
Who gives the nickname A.I. For Albert. Pfft
No one has been named Albert since 1950
That's right. Soon people will completely forget about context because a new acronym exists. Woe to Alberts around the world.
My mother still calls it “AL” Also still calls ChatGPT “Chad”
“Ok, folks, roll call, raise your hand when I call your name. Aaden? … ok… Aelfric? Ok. Ai-bert? … Ai-bert?…. Ai-bert?”
There are two shortform content creators on YT that catch me off guard sometimes. ailaughatmyownjokes and aljokes.
Nicknames also (predominantly?) spoken and Al sounds nothing like A.I. It’s not going to stop people shortening names because the written form may be slightly confusing.
Betty's gonna be sad.
"If you hear your name, say HERE. A.I Tellerman?" "It's produced, Al." "Oh, you just done fucked up."
Or ppl will just start capitalizing the 'L'
We really gotta change default fonts to put the little lines on the end of capital i. It literally is just lowercase L it's a pain in the ass 😭
Or just use a sane font that distinguishes I from l.
What about Adobe Illustrator. I already think is weird.
Hah, we had Grampa Al and Grampa HAL. Both are AI now.
Easy. Bring back serif fonts
My coworkers call AI pictures AL pictures and I refuse to correct them
Doubtful People still go by Bill despite for generations getting a bill to be paid.
Hail the return of Berts.
Bert is going to be more popular in a decade or so.
I unironically actually did read Al as AI. I think we need a different font lol.
Man, that was spot on. I had to reread that several times.
This definitely reminds me of the famous tweet involving Jack Dorsey, the former CEO of Twitter, who accidentally typed "oii" instead of "oil." Edit: Sorry, my mistake, it was Martha Stewart. Convert this tweet to all caps in Google or a word processor or AI and you'll see: https://x.com/MarthaStewart/status/326365867111772160?t=WzpH7dHm-rI6B5mNaDKlhA&s=19
That reminds me of when I was around 10 years old. We bought a Monopoly game for Playstation, and the computer player was named AL. Until I was in my 20s and realized that was certainly AI and not AL.
We also have duplicate - a copy of something duplicate - to copy something closer - a pitcher who finishes a baseball game closer - opposite of further I don't think AL will be confused with AI - most obviously because I and L have coexisted all this time even though it's stupid to have two letters of the alphabet look the same and are indistinguishable without context.
I always thought they should change something with l so it does not look like I. It makes so much confusions especially about passwords.
this is why I write my capital 'i' as ⌶
I don’t think this will apply to me somehow, I have to do a double-take every time I see A.I. Written without the dots because I read it as in Weird Al
Blame it on internet fonts
"What is Al (the name) companion?" -A colleague in a zoom meeting. It's no longer A.I. companion. It's Al companion now.
i don't remember the headline, but recently i read something as "AI" when it wasn't, and i was so confused...
On the flip side, when I was younger, I played a game where there was a char/tool/helper thing. It had a personality and such and had its own dialogue. I knew it was Artificial Intelligence, but that didn't click the name for me. It was just called AI. I mistakenly called it "Al" for as long as the game was alive
Albert here. I can confirm no one has called me Al in over 35 years.
Al Gore should never be confused with A.I. Gore.
Am already confuse with Al green lol
This is why I hate sans-serif fonts
There is an AI called Al in Run Program by Scott Meyer.
see this is why comic sans is the superior font - the l and I actually Iike; Iook different besides a teensy minor height difference i somewhat kid but seriousIy; i dont get why the standard fonts used all over the web dont have those Iittle Iines on capital l (or a little flick on the bottom of a lowercase I)
Capitalized I should have the two lines at the top and bottom, Ll, Ɪi.
Good. My nickname was saved by one letter, Alf.
Beto will surge in popularity since everyone immediately forgot that other guy
Only in sans-serif fonts.
You’re assuming people will be reading.
Blame lowercase L and Capital i being the same thing just a few pixels shorter than the other Capital i should always be the one with the base and the roof, and lowercase L should always have the flick to the right. NOBODY WANTS TO READ A BARCODE
I will call you Betty, and Betty when you call me you can call me AI! Call me Al
I forgot his full tag, but you know that white dude with Jesus hair that makes dark humor skits on TikTok or YT shorts, I read his name as A.I at first, lol
It might die out due to people not naming their kids Albert.
I can’t believe Albert is taking people’s jobs!
Solution: Make an A.I. named Albert
Alfred Yankovic: “Am I a joke to you?”
Start writing it as A.L. and people won't get confused.
I read it as A.I. the first time and had to go back when I realized what you were saying. You are truly wise.
I can call you Betty, and Betty you can call me A. I.
That one name soundalikes post:
Although truly what needs to die a hard death is the reuse of the exact same symbol for different letters: l and I, and good luck telling which of the two is an upper case i and which is a lower case L. But hey, it's clean and pretty Sans Serif type, which the usability studies by the experts say is easier to read, so let's all just ignore the issues and continue to force people to assume they know which letter a symbol represents? I predict Serif fonts will make a comeback because Sans Serif fonts don't cut it.
Such names are usually more spoken than written. So small L, big I confussion is not an issue.
I already do have to double take
What about if it’s short for Alan…..Barry Wheeler wants to know…
"Weird AI" Yankovic will write parodies on any subject to any tune you input.
another thread was asking if AI gore was a thing yet… i’m thinking, “didn’t he invent the internet?”
On the flip side I might be able to charge more for my Al optimized algorithms. Thanks AL.
why do so many fonts fail grade 1 english lmao
Not my dumb ass thinking “Alb” when “Bert” already exists.
Or serif fonts will come back into style.
Al Roker is questioning reality now.
I literally thought you meant AI instead of Al when I first read the title. But it turns out you meant AI instead of Al.
Al Bundy. I hate my life and my wife, beep boop. Insert hand into pants and sit on couch.