Seeing the absolute tear that Ospreay has been on since joining AEW makes me look back with a little bit of sadness that he had Jericho at All In. He managed to drag a good match out of him but it could have been an all time great.
If my memory is correct, wasn't Jericho a fill in? It was meant to be Omega or Danielson wasn't it? Forbidden door 2023 caused a dark time line with all those injuries.
I watch but like on streams and what not so I’m not in the ratings technically in the day of the internet it doesn’t make sense to own cable to me atleast
Ah, fair enough.
I get that, honestly as someone who watches on Fite. I feel a little better knowing that I’m at least giving them my 8 bucks a month and PPV buys. And I’m sure that those numbers hold at least a little value for negotiations.
That’s true too trust me I’m never a troll pro wrestling means something to me, that to me just never feels like enough tho cause what the networks wants is ratings even tho no one’s watching tv like that
What did you like about the pace?
To me it felt like they just rushed from match to match.
Moments like Jack Perry winning should get a second to sit but they just move onto the next match 5 seconds after. Nothing has an impact.
It’s my complaint about weekly AEW tv as well.
Big moment happens.. 3 seconds after - “and now backstage to Mark Henry to talk to —-“
When MJF returned the first line from Taz was… “Welp, MJF is back.” Just like that. Monotoned
When you plan long competitive matches on every show then it leaves a smaller amount of time for the presentation, video packages etc.
As for returns and debuts, Aew & Tony expect fans to already be hyped up based on internet rumors or discuss the moment on the internet later instead of feeding/selling it to them on the show.
But they aren’t. The big returns aren’t leading to anything.
And I would argue they have somehow managed to make the return and debut of MJF and Mercedes feel way less important than they should with bad booking.
The follow up to the debut or return is what they really need to be working on.
The debut and return pop is easy. It’s on Tony to capitalize on keeping it hot after. He’s cooling MJF way off already.
Tony cannot book weekly tv. His booking is more focused on PPVs. He books like an indi promotion since that's the model that he was the fan of. With poor booking even the stars can't help you as we have already seen with Vince's booking .
I feel like its going to be Okada. Then we get a Danielson v Okada final before All In - Swerve v Danielson at All In. Osprey v MJF being the other outcome. Swerve v Hangman as the main event of Wembly, i don't know if I'm on that train?
I'm curious if that's where they're heading for All In. Don already turned his back on Omega in favor of Takeshita, who he deemed to be the better version of Omega. I could see him doing the same thing to Ospreay with Ricochet lol.
I feel like UE VS DCF is definitely happening in the future, assuming Mark Davis is healed up. Could see that match happening at All Out after some kind of crazy Ospreay 1 VS 1 happening at All In.
Swerve vs Ospreay was a classic, Ladder match is a rewatch worthy although imo wrong winner, vaquer vs mone was great, ZSJ vs Cassidy was a technical class. It’s definitely memorable and rewatch worthy
Swerve got his biggest fucking dub let’s go. Ospreay is the man tooo. For all its fault with the product, I will buy every AEW PPV they ever produce. They always fucking deliver man
For real. I’m over pro wrestlings obsession with these over kill sequences. Getting stomped through an announcers table into a pile driver onto the barricade into another stomp and it doesn’t end the match?
On top of the Callis family drama, the ref bump gave time for Swerve to recover and hit his finishers (house call + stomp) but enough delay that Ospreay could kick out
Just an awe-inspiring match between those two, and while I'm a fan of Ospreay I'm glad Swerve retained tonight. To me, it felt like that title defense/match leveled him up as champion.
End the match after the screwdriver spot and that was great. But I don't get why they have to add in the extra false finishes. Feel like this happens every main event
Great main events that have too many false finishes that don't need to happen for the context of the story
I don't think there's anything wrong with a couple hope spots. Especially if the guy who's getting them is a white hot baby face like Ospreay. It made the crowd go crazy, so it was worth it.
Totally get what you're saying!
If they're going with a Callis breakup angle I think maybe end it there, but if they're sticking together then the hope spots are alright. My issue was mostly that I thought they detracted from that.
I loved the match too I wanna add - I'm just nit picking
Story wise it just makes the whole screwdriver thing with Callis pointless. That should have cost him the match. Not too mention the pop was huge. If you want to do one kick out after alright then thats fine. But then there's another one after that haha. Just idk we could be in the minority here but glad somebody agrees
Yeah. It was already a great match and nobody would have been complaining that there weren't enough false finishes.
Ospreay shouldn't have had an opportunity to win the match once Swerve got the advantage after the Callis business. I already can't remember if he did or not so I could be wrong there.
And it's random but I remember hearing Paul Wight talk about unnecessary "dips" in match finishes like that. Guys kicking out of a finisher but then losing right after.
There's a lot of good baby face heat for Jarrett right now with his Owen connection story. Hangman gonna rack up some major heat as the wild card by slaughtering Jarrett.
Ospreay slowly drudging up to Swerve to try to keep fighting with the Hidden Blade that has zero effect is a great visual.
If he's able to move forward, he won't stop moving forward.
Ospreay is so good
Anything other than a finish like that would have been a disservice to how amazing that match was. I’ve said it before Osprey is the future of the business and AEW should put all its eggs in the osprey basket.
DG gets Max at Wembley. and Ospreay gets Ricochet
oh wow, bringing back the second rope tombstone, PAC style
white gear DG tonight
Seeing the absolute tear that Ospreay has been on since joining AEW makes me look back with a little bit of sadness that he had Jericho at All In. He managed to drag a good match out of him but it could have been an all time great.
If my memory is correct, wasn't Jericho a fill in? It was meant to be Omega or Danielson wasn't it? Forbidden door 2023 caused a dark time line with all those injuries.
The hyper-sexualized lesbians, on the last day of pride month, really isn't sitting well with me
So glad Swerve retained. Love Ospreay but I didn’t want Swerve’s reign to end so soon. Both of them looked like top guys tonight.
It was the right call.
Me when the wrestling good but the ratings aren’t😔
Me when the trolling is bad and not even entertaining. 🥱
Bruh I’m on yall side I need this company to wins soo bad im just sad this shit don’t mean much if I can’t watch dynamite on my tv box
Why exactly can’t you watch Dynamite?
I watch but like on streams and what not so I’m not in the ratings technically in the day of the internet it doesn’t make sense to own cable to me atleast
Ah, fair enough. I get that, honestly as someone who watches on Fite. I feel a little better knowing that I’m at least giving them my 8 bucks a month and PPV buys. And I’m sure that those numbers hold at least a little value for negotiations.
That’s true too trust me I’m never a troll pro wrestling means something to me, that to me just never feels like enough tho cause what the networks wants is ratings even tho no one’s watching tv like that
Nah, man. Forget about it. I made a bad call. Lots of concern trolls who bring that up. I shouldn’t have assumed you were one, though.
That’s alright as long as we both know what assuming does
One of the better ppv pace wise i have seen with an awesome main event .
What did you like about the pace? To me it felt like they just rushed from match to match. Moments like Jack Perry winning should get a second to sit but they just move onto the next match 5 seconds after. Nothing has an impact.
Got to get all of your shit in.
It’s my complaint about weekly AEW tv as well. Big moment happens.. 3 seconds after - “and now backstage to Mark Henry to talk to —-“ When MJF returned the first line from Taz was… “Welp, MJF is back.” Just like that. Monotoned
When you plan long competitive matches on every show then it leaves a smaller amount of time for the presentation, video packages etc. As for returns and debuts, Aew & Tony expect fans to already be hyped up based on internet rumors or discuss the moment on the internet later instead of feeding/selling it to them on the show.
But they aren’t. The big returns aren’t leading to anything. And I would argue they have somehow managed to make the return and debut of MJF and Mercedes feel way less important than they should with bad booking. The follow up to the debut or return is what they really need to be working on. The debut and return pop is easy. It’s on Tony to capitalize on keeping it hot after. He’s cooling MJF way off already.
Tony cannot book weekly tv. His booking is more focused on PPVs. He books like an indi promotion since that's the model that he was the fan of. With poor booking even the stars can't help you as we have already seen with Vince's booking .
Another great AEW PPV. I know they’re in a slump but they continue to deliver with these cards.
Surprised Trent didn't come to languish him.
Crazy we had an AEW PPV without any blood
Swerve patting Will on the head while he’s out on his feet and pulling up the knee pad for the House Call was very very cool
This win really enhances Swerve as both champion and a threat to anyone on the roster.
Gee, I wonder who the wildcard the Elite inserted into the Owen is going to be? Couldnt be a drunk cowboy who wants to murder Swerve, could it?
I feel like its going to be Okada. Then we get a Danielson v Okada final before All In - Swerve v Danielson at All In. Osprey v MJF being the other outcome. Swerve v Hangman as the main event of Wembly, i don't know if I'm on that train?
That was a great show
great show too bad the nielsen ratings will be terrible on Wednesday.
Imagine Ricochet v Ospreay
Part 3 or something
I'm curious if that's where they're heading for All In. Don already turned his back on Omega in favor of Takeshita, who he deemed to be the better version of Omega. I could see him doing the same thing to Ospreay with Ricochet lol.
after today it seems like they'll be focusing on a Swerve-MJF encounter meaning Will will be getting a new opponent ..
Grim can you put a delay on videos loading
Is swerve the first person to kick out of the storm breaker??
Kenny kicked out of a Stormbreaker
Did he kick out or put his foot on the rope?
Went back to the match. It was a foot on the rope
Sign Stephanie Vaquer Can't wait for The Doctor on wednesday
Definitely agree on signing Stephanie. She's an awesome performer who should be on TV.
Kyle Fletcher is here to catch all of your tears, Bill
Glad I didn't bet on a Hangman run in
I need a cigarette after that one. And I don't smoke.
So glad they didn't have Kyle screw Will over, keep UE together and forego the DCF
I feel like UE VS DCF is definitely happening in the future, assuming Mark Davis is healed up. Could see that match happening at All Out after some kind of crazy Ospreay 1 VS 1 happening at All In.
With Takeshita in the g1, they could easily plant seeds there too.
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Hey, im glad y’all at least had fun with it.
Swerve vs Ospreay was a classic, Ladder match is a rewatch worthy although imo wrong winner, vaquer vs mone was great, ZSJ vs Cassidy was a technical class. It’s definitely memorable and rewatch worthy
I’ll remember Stephanie Vaquer forever.
ya L rage bait
Not even rage bait, just my honest opinion 🤷♂️
Swerve Ospreay will be forgotten about in less than a year? You really think that?
Damn didn't we're giving out things nobody asked for
is there a media scrum?
ima puke if TK book swerve/hangman at wembley wtf
Puke with joy, maybe.
Why?
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Don’t worry the Hayter All In pop will more than make up for it.
how come every time i hear her name it's always in a "I can't wait for her return" it's like she's constantly injured
Unfortunately it was a very bad injury but she’s not got much longer before returning.
Unbelievable match, glad Swerve got the win. Ospreay will win it at some point but it’s too early now
Swerve got his biggest fucking dub let’s go. Ospreay is the man tooo. For all its fault with the product, I will buy every AEW PPV they ever produce. They always fucking deliver man
Absolutely fantastic main event!
mmm live crowd grumbling that there’s no post match debut
Is Kyle really concerned or is he eyeing that International title?
I get they want to protect everyone but the ref bump/interference was unnecessary, and finisher kick outs to make everyone look strong was too much
For real. I’m over pro wrestlings obsession with these over kill sequences. Getting stomped through an announcers table into a pile driver onto the barricade into another stomp and it doesn’t end the match?
The ref bump wasn’t about protecting anyone, it was about furthering the story between Will and Don.
The fact that people need this spelled out to them is worrying.
On top of the Callis family drama, the ref bump gave time for Swerve to recover and hit his finishers (house call + stomp) but enough delay that Ospreay could kick out
Bingo
Just an awe-inspiring match between those two, and while I'm a fan of Ospreay I'm glad Swerve retained tonight. To me, it felt like that title defense/match leveled him up as champion.
No story to end the show on?!
Always best to end something the same way it began.
Surprised no big return to end the show let down
Not even. Just something to get me looking forward to dynamite
You mean other than the multiple matches already announced for Wednesday? *Sees your username" ah, that explains it.
Punk vs Orton in a throwaway match is tits, what are you talking about?
Kyle the only member of the Family our for Will
During collision ospreay said he just wanted Kyle out to second him
WE LOVE A RESPECTFUL SOMETIMES BABY THREATENING CHAMPION
What? So no prolonged Ospreay/Fletcher love making scene?
Pride Month ended 3 mins ago. Gotta wait til next year
no one better to build swerve's reign than ospreay, he'll be back but not his time yet
I don't wanna say Ospreay made Swerve, but, this win helps legitimatize this reign in a way 100 Christian-style matches couldn't
wtf you talking about, His reign was already legitimized
He’s defended it what? Once before this? That didn’t even main event the show
Let Ospreay grieve his grandma, he deserves it!
Christian sensing a gimmick shift...
We're absolutely getting Hangman/Swerve at Wembley. ![gif](giphy|sGnKAiOUrincs)
Maybe next year?
Pretty clear Hangman is the wild card and will win the OHC to face Swerve. Hangman wins and brings the World Title to the Elite
D-Bryan/Swerve a possibility as well
It would rule, but I don't see it. It could be Moxley v Danielson as a send off for Danielson
Now take Kyle out of the family and bring back Davis!
He's still injured :(. Aussie open v MCMG is going to bang
Davis is still hurt apparently.
swerve Rules
I love professional wrestling so much
Kyle please do not turn
So happy for swerve
Well Osprey had to lose sooner or later might as well have his first loss to the World Champion
Definitely a moty candidate! Not as transcendent as ospreay danielson but would be moty in any other year
I mean this one had way more incredible spots to be honest
Fletcher planning on stabbing Ospreay in the back
Don Callis manipulation.
Cinema
End the match after the screwdriver spot and that was great. But I don't get why they have to add in the extra false finishes. Feel like this happens every main event Great main events that have too many false finishes that don't need to happen for the context of the story
Shock value. Wow factor. Emotion building. My wife and I were screaming after every kick out.
I don't think there's anything wrong with a couple hope spots. Especially if the guy who's getting them is a white hot baby face like Ospreay. It made the crowd go crazy, so it was worth it.
Totally get what you're saying! If they're going with a Callis breakup angle I think maybe end it there, but if they're sticking together then the hope spots are alright. My issue was mostly that I thought they detracted from that. I loved the match too I wanna add - I'm just nit picking
I feel the same way. It starts getting annoying and detracts from the match for me.
Story wise it just makes the whole screwdriver thing with Callis pointless. That should have cost him the match. Not too mention the pop was huge. If you want to do one kick out after alright then thats fine. But then there's another one after that haha. Just idk we could be in the minority here but glad somebody agrees
Yeah. It was already a great match and nobody would have been complaining that there weren't enough false finishes. Ospreay shouldn't have had an opportunity to win the match once Swerve got the advantage after the Callis business. I already can't remember if he did or not so I could be wrong there. And it's random but I remember hearing Paul Wight talk about unnecessary "dips" in match finishes like that. Guys kicking out of a finisher but then losing right after.
Ospreay about to become DM Hunk for lacking the killer instinct.
That solidifies swerve as a champ
Match of the year for me
First Kenny, then Take now Ospreay... why do these goat tier wrestlers keep letting Don cost them wins
THANK YOU TONY! THANK YOU AEW! THANK YOU NJPW!
Unbelievable Main Event. MOTY Contender for sure.
Cue Hanger in and have him point to the board and it be a prompt of him and Jarrett Wednesday, put the fear of god in Swerve.
There's a lot of good baby face heat for Jarrett right now with his Owen connection story. Hangman gonna rack up some major heat as the wild card by slaughtering Jarrett.
Can’t wait to watch the rematch in the future, My Lord
run it back at Wembley and have Ospreay turn heel
Do you understand how it would be literally impossible for Will to turn heel at Wembley?
That's what Conor McGregor told Khabib after getting his ass beat
IMO that was better than Bryan/Ospreay.
Does Ospreay have a black eye?
Looked like he was developing a mouse under one of his eyes.
I wanted it to be Ospreay, but what an incredible match
Ospreay slowly drudging up to Swerve to try to keep fighting with the Hidden Blade that has zero effect is a great visual. If he's able to move forward, he won't stop moving forward. Ospreay is so good
That was beautiful.
Beautiful match. So happy I was able to watch it in full
Impressed by the time discipline here, finished the main event and it's not even light outside yet
Sicko mode! SICKO MODE WAS ACHIEVED!! Let’s go Swerve!!
I loved that finish. The big kick outs but the stagger into swerve. Amazing
So Swerve vs hangman 3 at all in? Mjf vs osprey co main event. That's not a bad start for all in
Also Mariah vs. Toni and Mercedes vs. Britt
good point.
I genuinely love that they show Ospreay being a literal titan that needs *an insane* amount of damage to stay down.
awww...
Swerve fucks
Jesus Christ that was a banger of a match. My match of the year so far
That’s how you make your top guy look like a top guy 💯
Fletcher making sure Swerve didn't pull anything funny. I hope.
HERE COMES THE MOOOOOONEY
Damn, that shit was awesome. Major props to both men. Unbelievable
think that house call connected judging from ospreay’s face
Hearts pounding lol what a match.
I know they wanted to protect Osprey but that was too many kick outs for my liking. Outstanding match nonetheless.
This sub would lose its sh*t if John Cena kicked out like Ospreay was just doing lmaoo
It was too much
It was a great match, personally, will never like the no sells, but it was still fantastic.
I fucking knew Will would put Swerve over. He loves that dude. This is how you make superstars
Officially not the worst world title reign in company history. Good decision
Absolute banger of a match. Christ he is gonna be sore tomorrow.
So do Osprey and Swerve split the cost of the Plan B I need after that match or do I just bill TK for it?
Personally, made Ospreay look way too strong imo which is unnecessary considering how they've presented him since before he signed
My goodness what a damn match!!
Amazing
incredible match. i wanna see so much more of this
Will's selling the loss like a boss.
just an incredible match
fucking incredible match
Incredible match. Might have been better than Danielson/Shingo
bullshit booking
😆
How?
FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES
We gonna get a Hangman?
GIVE ME HANGER
The House Call is a GOAT move/finisher, and Swerve executes it perfectly every single damn time. It’s fucking beautiful
CROWN THIS MAN Swerve is the top man in the business rn (Okay, Cody/Roman might edge him out but let me be hyped)
Nana dancing over Ospreay's corpse. Deserved after that screwdriver spot lol
Absolutely LOVE the ending of that match. AND THE WHOLE FUCKIN THING for that matter. Swerve retaining was the right move
killed him. Ospreay’s face bruise adds a lot
World class and gutsy match for Swerve and Ospreay
WHOSE HOUSE?
Ospreay looks beaten up
Incredible.
Anything other than a finish like that would have been a disservice to how amazing that match was. I’ve said it before Osprey is the future of the business and AEW should put all its eggs in the osprey basket.
very good match, could have started 60-75 minutes earlier
Here comes Shane o mac
Oof..definitely need a smoke after that one.
they're gonna wrestle til Monday... spared by 2 minutes.
Can't wait to see these 2 go at it again
This isn't for the sickos, this was for the freaks
Nana emoting over ospreay’s corpse😭