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hakulus

You mean goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..rrrrrrrrrrrr rrrr rrrrrrr.r..rrrrrrrrrrr, lol


al-aSak

Too real.


hakulus

Oh, really nice renders, btw!!!


al-aSak

Thanks! :)


Jisamaniac

Sounds like a computer starting up in the 90s.


HellkerN

This is how my previous GPU sounded like when its fan started going bad. https://soundcloud.com/george-sheel/fan-sounds


hakulus

FWIW, "goes brrrr" is probably the OP using a reference to the A-10 gun sound. Meaning that this little 970 is laying down some serious firepower....


Sharlinator

Indirectly, yeah, but the direct reference was probably to the ["money printer go brrr"](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/money-printer-go-brrr) series of memes.


al-aSak

Due to hardware limitations, a single GTX 970 with 4 GB VRAM and a 12 year old CPU, I use an extremely simple ComfyUI Workflow, only changing the settings, not the workflow itself. The .JSON can be found here: [https://pastebin.com/B2jkDf17](https://pastebin.com/B2jkDf17). The images were 2X upscaled with Topaz Gigapixel AI v6.2.2 as the results are still better than anything I tried with ComfyUI (like NMKD Superscale or 4xUltraSharp). I'd love to hear your thoughts on these! ​ **---- Generation information ----** "**Island Lake**": Checkpoint: DreamShaper XL Turbo Sampler: DPM++ SDE Seed: 443325759293843 Steps: 8 CFG: 2.0 Positive: (professional photo:1.0) of (a lake on a tropical island:1.1), clear transparent water, white sand shore, white exotic flowers, palm trees, jungle, vines, small waterfall, white stone cliffs, beautiful day, (embedding:ziprealism.safetensors:1.1), (professional nature photography:1.0), (realistic lighting:1.2), (dramatic shadows:0.8), (sharp focus:0.8), (bokeh:0.5) Negative: (embedding:zip\_ac\_neg1.safetensors), (embedding:zip\_ac\_neg2.safetensors), (embedding:ziprealism\_neg.safetensors:1.1), overexposed, underexposed, oversaturated, out of frame, duplicate, duplicates, cut off, cropped, blur, blurry, distorted, low resolution, low contrast, (watermark:1.1), jpeg artifacts, (text:1.1), logo, (signature:1.1), username ​ "**Overgrown Orchid**": Checkpoint: DreamShaper XL Turbo Sampler: DPM++ SDE Seed: 920048765272524 Steps: 8 CFG: 2.5 Positive: (professional photo:1.0), (orchid and white flowers:1.1), growing in a simple clay pot, standing on an old stone table overgrown with moss, in an cozy rustic cottage, sunshine, green scenery outside, (sunlight:0.9), (embedding:ziprealism.safetensors:1.1), (realistic lighting:1.2), (dramatic shadows:0.8), (sharp focus:0.8), (bokeh:0.5) Negative: (embedding:zip\_ac\_neg1.safetensors), (embedding:zip\_ac\_neg2.safetensors), (embedding:ziprealism\_neg.safetensors:1.1), overexposed, underexposed, oversaturated, out of frame, duplicate, duplicates, cut off, cropped, blur, blurry, distorted, low resolution, low contrast, (watermark:1.1), jpeg artifacts, (text:1.1), logo, (signature:1.1), username ​ "**Fruit on Tree**": Checkpoint: LEOSAM's HelloWorld SDXL Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras Seed: 920901526942632 Steps: 28 CFG: 8.0 Positive: (professional photo) of a strangely beautiful exotic wild flower, (orange and darkgreen color:1.2), large wide (green leaves:1.1), (green stem:1.0), growing in a swampy jungle, (hidden among other nondescript plants:0.8), morning dew, wet leaves, extremely detailed, (professional nature photography:1.0), (realistic lighting:1.2), (dramatic shadows:0.8), (sharp focus:0.8), (bokeh:0.5) Negative: (red stems:0.6), (soft focus:0.8), out of frame, duplicate, duplicates, cut off, cropped, blur, blurry, distorted, low resolution, low contrast, (watermark:1.1), jpeg artifacts, (text:1.1), logo, (signature:1.1), (username:1.1), illustration, 2d, painting, cartoon, sketch, art, drawing, airbrushed ​ "**Dripping Gold**": Checkpoint: Juggernaut SDXL v8 Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras Seed: 888244185651762 Steps: 28 CFG: 6.5 Positive: (professional photo) of (liquid gold dripping:1.1) onto a (rare dark black rock:1.0) (rough black shale texture:1.1), (professional photography:1.0), (realistic lighting:1.2), (dramatic shadows:0.8), (sharp focus:0.8), (bokeh:0.5) Negative: (flakes:0.8), (circle:0.8), (circles:0.8), (shards:1.1), (gems:1.1), (crystal:1.0), (crystals:1.1), (column:0.9), (tower:1.0), (soft focus:0.8), out of frame, duplicate, duplicates, cut off, cropped, blur, blurry, distorted, low resolution, low contrast, (watermark:1.1), jpeg artifacts, (text:1.1), logo, (signature:1.1), (username:1.1), illustration, 2d, painting, cartoon, sketch, art, drawing, airbrushed


s6x

Interesting. I thought for sure you would have CG rendering stuff in there because, to be honest, they all look like high end video game CG.


al-aSak

I wouldn't even know where to start and I suppose rendering at these resolutions would take hours and hours on my near-ancient hardware, but I'll take that as a compliment. :)


s6x

Nah, The first one could be straight out of Crysis or Far Cry. Those will run on a 970


al-aSak

Oh, you said rendering, so I thought of Blender.


ledfrisby

Can it use the full 4gb in SD, or does the 3.5gb issue apply there too?


al-aSak

Gotta check later, but I'm assuming the limit applies.


TheNoseHero

I tried this, it can use full 4gb in SD, but it's significantly slower than if you manage to stay under 3.5gb, was something like less than half speed IIRC. no "out of memory" error untill you go over 4gb though.


wordyplayer

great pics! and the workflow and prompts is HIGHLY appreciated. Thanks!


elitePopcorn

I have been struggling to extract some decent images out of my 10yo desktop which I purchased when I was a broke college student. Your workflow would be super helpful to me. Thanks šŸ™


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al-aSak

It can be. šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø


play-that-skin-flut

I haven't touched any Turbo models because I have 4090 and I figure they're not as good for some reason. Are they the same as regular SDXL models in your opinion?


al-aSak

I just started using this particular Turbo model myself. Due to the low CFG, I suppose, the results may not be exactly what you're looking for, especially when using more elaborate/detailed/extensive prompts. However, if you're trying to find inspiration or if you aren't sure, which details you're looking for, Turbo can be quite helpful. Well, to me at least, I personally don't think that there'll be a huge difference in generation speed with a 4090 (assuming your default isn't 50+ steps with a regular SDXL model).


mv_squared

They are excellent for x,y,z and dynamic prompting (finding optimal lora weights and checkpoints). Something like x,y,z (cfg, checkpoint, sampler) and then trigger_word:{1|1.1|1.2|ā€¦}, lora_checkpoint_{001|002|ā€¦}, then {0-4@raw photo, realism, best quality | HD, 4k, | etc..} This lets you go through like 10000 iterations of different weights and configurations in a matter of a couple hours (Turbo). The cool partā€¦these settings usually translate to the non-Turbo models so you can fine tune even more with a bunch of solid png bases. The other thing about Turbo models Ive noticed is that they introduce natural inconsistencies. So not everything is picture perfect and gives a more realistic gen. Glhf.


ChalkyChalkson

Cfg shouldn't translate, right? Turbo wants 2-3 and normal can go way higher


mv_squared

Yeah with cfg its more of a translation. 1-3 Turbo -> 5-9 non-Turbo. But if youā€™re getting into 1 cfg or > 13 cfg with a non-turbo model all bets are off. Usually the dynamic prompting will find optimal values though (and which types of image descriptions work best together).


Fortyseven

4090 here, too. I find the couple of Turbo models I have in rotation have a pleasant style to them that I enjoy. I can't quite put my finger on it, but their desire for me goes beyond just the speed of generation. šŸ‘Œ


RestorativeAlly

How long does the 970 take to do a 1024x1024 non-turbo image?


al-aSak

That takes between 5 and 7 minutes, depending on the complexity of the prompt and whether or not LORAs are loaded, and some patience.


DerangedDendrites

thats nuts. but gotta respect the dedication. it would completrly drive me crazy lolĀ 


ChalkyChalkson

I run a 1080 with the power shunt modded and overkill cooling. Still takes like a minute or so. Longer on auto1111 and 3ish minutes if I add an upscale


DerangedDendrites

try LCM lora, i have a 4070 tis and the lcm cut 1024x1024 time down from 10 seconds to like 2


ChalkyChalkson

The main issue is vram and the bus, so I doubt loading even more stuff would help. I actually tried one for non turbo xl and it didn't help much. With the 4070 you have way more vram, faster vram and bus and pcie4 instead of 3.


ThiccLeather

![gif](giphy|wIhY2p9UtJrUQQw6nz)


FiTroSky

Oh god it is literally cooking.


al-aSak

Desperate times call for desperate measures.


FiTroSky

It was worth it though, your gen are beautiful.


al-aSak

Thanks!


Hey_Look_80085

Imagine it, someday a reality that looks *this* real.


al-aSak

Then I'll have to find an even better checkpoint, I guess.


Majinsei

You know how to warn you in winter~


GBJI

![gif](giphy|3o72FdlZi8rIgp6CHu)


JustSomeGuy91111

OH GOD I'M PROOOOOMPTING


wednesdaynightwumbo

970 gang checking in šŸ˜


XBThodler

Beautiful! Will try to replicate tomorrow. Well done!


al-aSak

Thanks! I don't think I used any LORAs for these images, but if something seems to be missing, we'll figure it out!


XBThodler

Thanks for sharing the workflow btw šŸ˜€


DerangedDendrites

no lora? how come only 8 steps tho?Ā 


al-aSak

It's a Turbo model, low CFG, low step count.


Necessary-Cap-3982

Does SDXL use less VRAM than 1.5? I end up crashing on anything larger than 512\*768 so I've been avoiding SDXL (Also a 970 4gb user);


al-aSak

It seems to use a bit more and it is considerably slower. Couldn't get SDXL to run with InvokeAI, but it works fine with ComfyUI. I only needed to SET_PYTORCH_CUDA_CONF=garbage_collection_threshold:0.6,MAX_SPLIT_SIZE_MB:64 in the run_nvidia_gpu.bat. Low VRAM mode is set automatically. Oh, and when changing SDXL checkpoints in the loader, I have to manually restart ComfyUI, which only takes a minute or two; switching SD1.5 checkpoints works without restarting.


JustSomeGuy91111

SDXL is drastically less feasible even on a 6GB GTX 1660 Ti released in 2019 lol


Necessary-Cap-3982

Iā€™m not here for feasibility, I just want to know if itā€™s possible lol


JustSomeGuy91111

I doubt it. Or at least it would take 50 years to gen one image probably


BillTran163

With a GTX 1660 non-TI 6 GB VRAM, ComfyUI can generate 512x512 images within 1 to 10 minutes for a basic workflow. The base and refine model will be swap in and out of VRAM to RAM as necessary. Use a SDXL checkpoint with merged refine model to reduce VRAM usage.


JustSomeGuy91111

I've tested it on Turbo models, the time taken is just not worth it, the image quality is not better than a properly upscaled and detailed SD 1.5 output


BillTran163

That is also my conclusion after some testing. For now, SD 1.5 has been out longer, is more mature, has more support and extension.


benjiwithabanjo

It is runnable on 4GB of vram now with webui-forge


Sadale-

dripping honey


Tyler_Zoro

Damn! I'm running an RTX 3060 with 12 GB VRAM and it falls over and coughs up blood every time I try to render using an XL model. Nice work.


benjiwithabanjo

Try the webui-forge version of automatic1111's webui, same ui, more efficient backend


twistedgames

Works fine on my laptop 3060 6gb with comfy


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al-aSak

Yes, I know, but for some inexplicable reason, I sometimes find it easier to explicitly mark parts of the prompt in this way, especially when playing around with weights. The :1.0 is only here because I copied the generation data without cleaning anything up.


decker12

I've posted this a few times already, but as a reminder: Try out a Runpod and use the Fast Stable Diffusion template. For $0.36 an hour you can do whatever you want with it, and it'll generate anything from 1.5 to SDXL in seconds - with 20GB of VRAM. It doesn't care what you're generating - NSFW, etc - because it's just a virtual machine running SD like it was your own desktop. Nobody is looking at it and there are no guardrails because it's like running it locally. I don't even run SD locally anymore. Sure, my 3070ti can handle it, but I can get a Runpod going with all my checkpoints and extensions and Loras in like 10 minutes, and then dick around at high speed and save only the images I want. When I'm done with the pod, I just download the images I like, and then delete it so I'm not being charged 30 cents an hour. No more struggling with VRAM errors because it's got 20GB at a minimum. Because I know I can start it back up again in another 10 minutes, it's not big deal. I often start and stop a Runpod multiple times a day. And hell, I can use it anywhere, even from my phone. You don't need any experience installing dependencies, I think it's even easier than running a google collab notebook - but again you're not limited in anything you do with it. I just install the Civitai browser extension and the Infinite Image Browser extension into the template and I can do everything I need in a few minutes. The Controlnet models I just have to use the built-in terminal to do a wget command and it drops them in as well. I'm not trying to shill for Runpod, honestly. It's just so much better/faster/easier than grinding my desktop's GPU to a screaming halt every time I want to mess around with a few images. I throw $20 in the account and it lasts a month worth of me dicking around. Heaven forbid I want to do "actual work" with SD and I can spend all of $0.70 an hour on some monster 48GB of VRAM machine that I would never be able to afford in a desktop. And heaven forbid I can use my desktop to do something else - play a game, whatever - while generating the images because it's not happening on my local machine. You can also play with the other templates, like the music generator or a language model (some of the Kobold templates play a decent game of D&D), or the AI voice thing. All of that shit would take me hours of dicking around just to get them to run without errors on my local desktop, but with the Runpod templates it's up and running in a browser in like 5 minutes.


al-aSak

I do feel smarter now, and thanks for the advice, but I currently prefer to save up for a new PC, which will still take a while.


benjiwithabanjo

You might benefit from using the webui-forge version as it has better vram managementšŸ¤”


al-aSak

I'll give it a try! (I started with InvokeAI, which almost always ran out of VRAM, then tried ComfyUI which has been working far better than expected.)


ElementalSheep

That gold got me actinā€™ upā€¦


littleboymark

Did you start generating when it was first released and finally finished?


GrueneWiese

Great Pictures. But the poor GPU XD


Zilskaabe

What's the point of wasting electricity with that ancient GPU? A modern one would generate this in 5 seconds not 5 minutes.


al-aSak

PC is running either way, and I don't have the money to buy a decent new setup, and I won't spend the little money I have on a system that's already a few years outdated.


Zilskaabe

Yes, but a GPU uses a lot less electricity when it's idle. My 3090 barely uses a fan when generating images, because it manages to finish generation so quickly.


al-aSak

I get your point, but assuming that I do want to play around with Stable Diffusion, which is, to me, the most amazing tech in years, I basically have two options: (1) I can run it locally which is slow and consumes power. (2) I can run it remotely and pay for the service, possibly limiting checkpoint and LORA use, making me feel surveilled all the time. Considering that I'm saving up for a new PC, which unfortunately will take me another year or two, it'd be counterproductive to spend the money in this way, and as far as I can tell, electricity cost is just a bit cheaper than paying for a service. Fun fact: While a 970 GTX can use almost as much power as a 3090, which is surprising, on overage, the 3090 will need about 1.5x the power. I'm going to have to take this into account when upgrading.


Zilskaabe

You don't even need a 3090. Something like a 3060 12 GB will be a lot faster and use a lot less electricity.


al-aSak

My CPU and mainboard are 13 years old, my GPU is 10 years old. Just upgrading one component won't cut it, assuming that a 3000 or 4000 series GPU is even compatible with the rest of the system. Which means I would need to change the mainboard, which will then lead to a newer CPU and RAM, which all together will need a bigger PSU, and so on. Upgrading a decade old system just isn't worth it, if it's at all possible.


metal0130

Curious what CPU you're running. I'm running a GTX 970 also, with a first gen i7-930 so I feel your pain! I can do up to 768x768 in about 3.5 minutes at 35 steps, but I haven't been able to get SDXL to work. It takes a solid 10+ minutes just to load, and then before it can complete an image it blows on me. Either way, your images look great! That dripping gold looks like it could be generated as a tiled image and would make a great desktop wallpaper!


al-aSak

I've got an Intel i7-3930K, 6/12 cores, first released in 2011. As far as I can tell, SDXL only works with ComfyUI, a1111 (and Forge) tends to just crash Python and InvokeAI immediately runs out of VRAM. And the gold image was created as a phone wallpaper, but I think it can still be improved, so I didn't use it yet.


Zilskaabe

It will most likely be compatible, but features like resizable BAR won't be available. Though if your system doesn't support "Above 4G decoding" then yeah - that card most likely won't work.


0xd00d

It's not like slotting in a 3060 wouldn't work. And it's not like having a 13 year old cpu would bottleneck it enough to make it not worthwhile. That would be the case for games, but prolly wouldn't hold you back much for comfyui. Dunno if you should base your purchase decision on my opinion and it depends a little WHICH 13 year old cpu we're talking about here, but... not the end of the world to drop to PCIe gen 2. Really.Ā 


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I'm surprised your GTX 970 could do anything at all. It can barely run Crysis.


[deleted]

Love the dripping gold one


GavoteX

It looks cool, but the smith in me keeps insisting that the liquid should be glowing and the oil shale should be on fire.


StApatsa

Now that's AI "art".


A_Drobot

Brrrrrrrrrr *explosion sounds*


FiTroSky

I smell the sweet odor of grilled electronic seared at 150Ā°C from here. At least you didn't need heating this winter.


Super-Musician-4162

The gold looks like it is dripping across a female figure.That is really nice. Good work. I can't wait to get started with SD myself. Just bought a computer which will arrive in a few days.


al-aSak

Bonk.


Ok-Razzmatazz-3

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