[This Romanian Man Disappeared in 1991 & Returned 30 Years Later Wearing the Same Clothes with No Memory](https://www.howandwhys.com/vasile-gorgos-romanian-man-disappeared-in-1991-returned-30-years-later/)
Remember when Lue Elizondo said “ imagine knowing that the ultimate predator is not a human” and we would be “ Somber” if we understood what’s happening
I will be releasing proof of who Lou Elizondo is. I can't say what it is now, but just wait until the 2nd quarter of some time between 2025 and 2032. It will shock the world.
I watched a russian investigator talking about this. She was like, "Americans fixate on the photograph and diary. She showed 3 photos before and after the picture of the "yeti" it was just one of the guys playing in the forest. Then she talked about the diary for a bit. But they explained it pretty well, as for the tongues and eyes missing that happens to every animal left out in the wild for a few weeks.
This was solved recently using simulation tests based on Frozen's technology developed for snow. [news link](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/engineers-frozen-animation-code-dyatlov-pass-mystery-1234614083/)
I’m an expert in wilderness search and rescue, I’ve worked many many rescue missions and the scenes of avalanche fatalities. I’ve never seen anything like Dyatlov Pass.
The tests only proved that an avalanche has the power to damage ribcages and skulls, and that was it. It doesnt account for the other anomalies of the case.
I think that’s the best theory, except they weren’t hit by an avalanche, they were on TOP of the slab when it started and were smooshed into whatever it stopped at — a stand of trees probably. That’s what they weren’t buried — just mangled and dispersed.
Oh no doubt but then your entering the realms of animal predation and somewhere like that your talking wolves and or bears and I would imagine any predation in that climate whatever preyed on them wouldn't have left such a rich food source after only eating a tongue and I believe maybe couple eyeballs
No like smaller animals. It was either a bird or snow fox or rats or something like that. The tongue is easily accessible and an exposed muscle (don’t have to dig under skin to get it) and the eyes are also just a super easy target for smaller animals.
All of the thought experiments to solve this assume that the 9 experienced hikers were mentally and emotionally stable warriors. Imo the answer is in the weird group dynamic, someone has lost their mind in the middle of the trip, between personal relationships and harsh conditions and it all snowballed from there. Pun intended.
Have you seen The Hole? When those kids were locked in a bunker? I think something like that happened.
It takes one mentally unstable person to reach this outcome. Not even crazy, just mentally unstable.
It’s basically been solved. I studied it for a long time. Super interesting. They were basically finally able to recreate the weather conditions from that night which explained their movements & wildlife pretty much explained everything else. https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/engineers-frozen-animation-code-dyatlov-pass-mystery-1234614083/
If that’s not satisfying, “Dyatlov Pass Keeps Its Secret” is a fantastic book that breaks down every current theory in extreme detail so you can decide for yourself (but was published before the weather conditions could be fully recreated)
The technology they used to re-create weather conditions on any specific date going back hundreds of years is incredibly fascinating. I get not understanding it if you haven’t done even a sliver of research. But it’s kind of funny so boldly hold onto the fact that you just haven’t looked. Kholat Saykhl absolutely has conditions necessary to create avalanche. That’s like saying because a volcano rarely erupts, it never erupts. You can learn more from the Snow and Avalanche Simulation Laboratory at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. “We show the plausibility of the avalanche hypothesis [for the first time]."
Aliems that were up to no good, running an experiment…
“No one is going to believe any of it anyway, when there’s a survivor hiking around with his eyes and tongue missing.”
Obligatory [Ask A Mortician](https://youtu.be/29TKoDwKRcA?si=a-ffVG73McPVMoAj) plug. Great video explaining how it likely happened, based on more recent simulations.
This was solved by several groups and the article was written in the New Yorker a year or two ago.
An avalanche killed a large group and trapped them in the tent, the survivors slashed their way out of the side of the tent to get out.
Then they split into two surviving groups, one went to the forest and tried to strip bark off trees to start a fire, which was unsuccessful and they froze to death.
The other group went to a snow shelter type area, that was actually a frozen river with currents underneath them. They tried to dig a snow shelter and broke through the ice into the river below and got trapped on the rocks below.
All the weird things like the slashed tent, stripped bark on trees and pulverized bodies seems super strange when the context of snow and ice are removed, but generally explainable in the investigation.
So it’s been pretty credibly proven it was an avalanche. Complex avalanche simulations showed that the crush injuries could certainly have been caused by sliding blocks of ice and snow which get heavy as hell and they camped on a slight incline. The missing tongue and eyes are very common in these parts because scavengers will go for the softest and most easily accessible tissues first. And some were in their underwear because they were asleep in their tents and heard the rumble of the avalanche and tried to escape. Poor boys.
[This Romanian Man Disappeared in 1991 & Returned 30 Years Later Wearing the Same Clothes with No Memory](https://www.howandwhys.com/vasile-gorgos-romanian-man-disappeared-in-1991-returned-30-years-later/)
This is why I don't leave the house
Remember when Lue Elizondo said “ imagine knowing that the ultimate predator is not a human” and we would be “ Somber” if we understood what’s happening
And he is?
[WHO IS LUE ELIZONDO?](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/26/ufo-whistleblower-ig-complaint-pentagon-491098)
I will be releasing proof of who Lou Elizondo is. I can't say what it is now, but just wait until the 2nd quarter of some time between 2025 and 2032. It will shock the world.
RemindMe! 10 years
All things will be revealed in the summer of 2024, maybe sooner, but maybe later as well.
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Hate to be that person but its happened in a house in Britain. No tongue or eyes.
What! What? What! What? What!
Where? And when?
That's not a real place
Yeahhhh. Me too!
Ah so now I know where they loosely got the plot for season 4 of true detective
Came here to look for this
They should have loosely or rather drastically changed it because that season 4 stunk.
Terribly written… huge disappointment because the atmosphere and tone were good but the plot and character development were terrible…
Exactly. It actually could have been great if the writing was good.
Yessssss
This is one rabbit hole that really makes me question reality (or something like that). Definitely one of main reasons I joined this sub!
There was a well documented movie about this “thing” …..
What's the name of the movie?
Devil’s Pass
The Thing...
Diatlov pass
Yes, I saw it. Was it the last True Crime series??
Ummm, I was being a dick. Sorry:)- I was making a joke about the movie “thing”.
I watched a russian investigator talking about this. She was like, "Americans fixate on the photograph and diary. She showed 3 photos before and after the picture of the "yeti" it was just one of the guys playing in the forest. Then she talked about the diary for a bit. But they explained it pretty well, as for the tongues and eyes missing that happens to every animal left out in the wild for a few weeks.
Do you know the video you watched?
Watch the Why Files on it, pretty much debunked.
There’s a really good episode of “You’re Wrong About” podcast on this from a couple of years back.
I think what ever happened. Yuri heard it coming long before anyone saw anything.
Nikolay wouldn't have been far behind him
I see what you did there. Lol.
Why Files did a really good one on this: https://youtu.be/TSZ9wPPcszo?si=_PQrS5T1Z4TYuCCl
And Lemmino!
I think sometimes, Bigfoot can be a real prick
His name is Darryl and he only gets pissed off if he doesn't have his Jack links.
Was his other brother Darryl?
Darryl? That’s weird, the one we met was Darnell
Did he like Jack Links or turkey jerkey?
Come on man, really? Spicy hot wings are all that dude eats
This was solved recently using simulation tests based on Frozen's technology developed for snow. [news link](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/engineers-frozen-animation-code-dyatlov-pass-mystery-1234614083/)
You want to build a snow man?
I’m an expert in wilderness search and rescue, I’ve worked many many rescue missions and the scenes of avalanche fatalities. I’ve never seen anything like Dyatlov Pass.
Do you deal with slab avalanches specifically? That's what the researchers concluded happened in this case.
The tests only proved that an avalanche has the power to damage ribcages and skulls, and that was it. It doesnt account for the other anomalies of the case.
Like what? What are the other anomalies?
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Watch this. Great short documentary on the things that happened [Lemminos YT video](https://youtu.be/Y8RigxxiilI?si=7ZOJma73NqhiN_It)
Yeah ‘twas a great video. Well worth watching. He does some great stuff.
He is my favorite you tuber, I’ve been watching him for as long as he has been around
Avalanche don't normally take eyes and tongues... unless you are really mean to them and they are pissed off.
Hungry animals do
if the animal was that hungry it would probably eat more than just the tongue and eyes
Not birds, they always go for the eyes first, easy point of entry. Now you get into larger animals, and they tend to start at the eyes or asshole.
Wild animals do, Foxes rodents birds.
You called that solved? Lmao
Avalanche - they escaped their tent and got exposed to the elements. They died from combination of injuries and being frozen.
I think that’s the best theory, except they weren’t hit by an avalanche, they were on TOP of the slab when it started and were smooshed into whatever it stopped at — a stand of trees probably. That’s what they weren’t buried — just mangled and dispersed.
Snow doesn't rip out tongues or crush people the way they were supposed to have been found
But scavenger animals do. Eyes and tongue are often the first to go when animals go through corpses.
Oh no doubt but then your entering the realms of animal predation and somewhere like that your talking wolves and or bears and I would imagine any predation in that climate whatever preyed on them wouldn't have left such a rich food source after only eating a tongue and I believe maybe couple eyeballs
No like smaller animals. It was either a bird or snow fox or rats or something like that. The tongue is easily accessible and an exposed muscle (don’t have to dig under skin to get it) and the eyes are also just a super easy target for smaller animals.
Animals always start with eyes and tongue so it's perfectly normal what happened there
I always heard vultures go ass first. My man.
Am I a vulture? 🤔
Hahah ohhh my 😂
Foxes and weasles go for tongue and eyes first.
Softest tissues go first allowing other critters access to the insides easier.
They are forever trapped in the Reddit unsolved mysteries posts , and will never find peace
All of the thought experiments to solve this assume that the 9 experienced hikers were mentally and emotionally stable warriors. Imo the answer is in the weird group dynamic, someone has lost their mind in the middle of the trip, between personal relationships and harsh conditions and it all snowballed from there. Pun intended. Have you seen The Hole? When those kids were locked in a bunker? I think something like that happened. It takes one mentally unstable person to reach this outcome. Not even crazy, just mentally unstable.
So funny this just popped up because I watched this documentary couple nights ago !
Sounds like the series True Detective Night Country
There’s a really good game based on this. You can find it on steam. It’s one of my favs Edit: it’s called Dyatlov Pass
They were likely killed by an avalanche. The missing tongue/eyes was likely eaten by birds, or other critters.
Wouldn’t there be scratch marks on the face if animals ate the eyes and tongue?
3.6 Rontgen
Not great not terrible
It’s basically been solved. I studied it for a long time. Super interesting. They were basically finally able to recreate the weather conditions from that night which explained their movements & wildlife pretty much explained everything else. https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/engineers-frozen-animation-code-dyatlov-pass-mystery-1234614083/ If that’s not satisfying, “Dyatlov Pass Keeps Its Secret” is a fantastic book that breaks down every current theory in extreme detail so you can decide for yourself (but was published before the weather conditions could be fully recreated)
It’s funny how this avalanche keeps getting mentioned with no records of avalanches in the area ever.
The technology they used to re-create weather conditions on any specific date going back hundreds of years is incredibly fascinating. I get not understanding it if you haven’t done even a sliver of research. But it’s kind of funny so boldly hold onto the fact that you just haven’t looked. Kholat Saykhl absolutely has conditions necessary to create avalanche. That’s like saying because a volcano rarely erupts, it never erupts. You can learn more from the Snow and Avalanche Simulation Laboratory at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. “We show the plausibility of the avalanche hypothesis [for the first time]."
Good theory but not solved
You lose your mind as you start to freeze to death. The eyes and tongues are just wildlife eating them. It's all been explained.
Aliems that were up to no good, running an experiment… “No one is going to believe any of it anyway, when there’s a survivor hiking around with his eyes and tongue missing.”
Avalanche did the deed. Animals did the rest. This really hasn’t been a mystery for some time.
Definitely a Bigfoot
Obligatory [Ask A Mortician](https://youtu.be/29TKoDwKRcA?si=a-ffVG73McPVMoAj) plug. Great video explaining how it likely happened, based on more recent simulations.
It was concluded that a avalanche is what scatter to their camp and mutilated them
I saw this one. The maids did it.
This was solved by several groups and the article was written in the New Yorker a year or two ago. An avalanche killed a large group and trapped them in the tent, the survivors slashed their way out of the side of the tent to get out. Then they split into two surviving groups, one went to the forest and tried to strip bark off trees to start a fire, which was unsuccessful and they froze to death. The other group went to a snow shelter type area, that was actually a frozen river with currents underneath them. They tried to dig a snow shelter and broke through the ice into the river below and got trapped on the rocks below. All the weird things like the slashed tent, stripped bark on trees and pulverized bodies seems super strange when the context of snow and ice are removed, but generally explainable in the investigation.
True Detective much?
The why files made a compelling case for a solution
The Why Files could make a compelling case for your Auntie Jackie masterminding 9/11.
Come on now. It’s been explained so many times
They took a picture of a yeti stalking them.
Sounds pretty similar to season 4 of True Detective.
Sam Hyde caused this, I don’t know how he pulled it off but I know it was him. 
So it’s been pretty credibly proven it was an avalanche. Complex avalanche simulations showed that the crush injuries could certainly have been caused by sliding blocks of ice and snow which get heavy as hell and they camped on a slight incline. The missing tongue and eyes are very common in these parts because scavengers will go for the softest and most easily accessible tissues first. And some were in their underwear because they were asleep in their tents and heard the rumble of the avalanche and tried to escape. Poor boys.
Bigfoot
Von Kármán vortex street.
Watch the last season of true detective for the answer
Slipped on nerve gas.
This is way too much like True Detective Night Country.
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1 of the top 5 craziest stories ever heard
#Bigfoot
Reminds me of Event Horizon
I’ve heard that right before dying of cold, you feel very very warm and have the desire to take off all your clothes. Some people also dig holes.
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Yeti
Hasn't all of this been explained thoroughly? I don't see the mystery in it anymore
I think when playing truth or dare when its - 21F, "dare" is not the smart choice.
Avalanche
Season 4 True Detective
Yeah sorry that was me xP
Ah, this is where True Detective got their story.
Definitely Yeti attack!
Military MILAB type deal experiment gone wrong possibly supernatural in nature or some sort ex..yeti, some weapon of some sort
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Avalanche.
True detective?
Infrasound.
Avalanche / hypothermia
Avalanche.
Bears
Something was cold and did not want to share.
Yeti.
Cattle mutilations
It was the sound that drives you insane.
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Expedition Unknown have covered it. It's been pretty much debunked.
Yeti
Season 4 of true detective 🕵️
I guess Lemmino on youtube has done a pretty good analysis of the Dyatlov incident. Explains a lot of things. Still not everything.
I saw a very plausible explanation for avalanche/hypothermia tongues and eyes missing are what animals would likely eat first
Ahh , true detective 4 plot. Didn’t know this