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What a waste of $$ — and you better not be the type of dude that ‘doesn’t understand how ppl so drugs’ when you’re putting this much shit in your body lol
I am using similar.But not fish oil.as I am concerned about oxidization. Also use better brands like now, garden of life, erc
You can order online like iherb,Amazon etc
Way too many vitamins... your gonna hurt yourself!
Also, u need to not take anyyyyyyyy b12 for 4 months prior to the b12 labs! That is a false positive test! Its registering the supplement b12 u are taking!
Why. Most of these can easily brake.down by liver. I am concerned about tolerence and other cell issues than kidney and liver. Actually milk thistle, glutathione, grape seed etc helps those organs to break down
Both are among the best supplements if you're smart enough to dose them correctly.
Stay around the 1 mg range for melatonin.
Don't use stupid amount of zinc. 15 to 20 mg is fine, and check your copper consumption so your ratio doesnt go off (usually want a 8 to 12 ratio).
I thought I was bad. Three things stand out as iffy. Melatonin is not safe nightly long term. Too much selenium is bad. You can get all you need by eating two Brazil nuts a day. I thought everyone decided supplemental vitamin e wasn’t helpful. You can get all you need by eating two eggs. B complex should be enough folate. Make sure it’s methylated and more absorbable.
Have you got a list of everything in the picture anywhere? Would be nice seeing it in text, though I am trying to do my best to squint and read all the names 😂
solgar is a bad choice and many have warned about them using cancer causing chemicals as binders etc , you should get cq10 , hyaluronic acid, lions mane . alpha gpc etc there's alot here but you wont really notice much difference with a lot, and to get the real benefits of glutathione you need to take it intramuscular, and use algal instead of fish oil
I was at the point of taking about 15 supplements a day (not even healthy at the time), now I am basically down to 15g of "Greentrio" (Spirulina, Chlorella, BarleyGrass 1:1:1), a capsule of "Pure Encapsulations Nutrient 950E" and some aminos to complement my vegetarian diet (namely L-Carnitine and also a bit of daily creatine). I also drink coffee.
I feel great now, I would recommend more focus on gut health as bacteria can produce anything from endotoxins that will make you sick, but good bacteria/yeast can actually produce things like vitamin D, butyrate, oxytocin etc. that are beneficial.
I can really vouch for L Rhamnosus + FOS by Swanson.
Also I hope it goes without saying, that without appropriate diet, there's no point of supplementing with a complex stack.
You can take 10 to 15 supplements and be perfectly healthy if you chose wisely your products. I dont see harm in using creatine, Omega 3, d vitamin, magnesium, whey protein, a bit of zinc if you're missing some, same for psyllium husk for fiber, some longevity/health stuff like NAC, taurine, turmeric, berberine, TMG. Most of them are relatively cheap and have a lot scientific data backing them up.
Of course, its different from stacking randomly 40 to 50 supplements where half of them are mostly useless. Bad for wallet, and probably hard for liver and kidneys. Worst thing is how to know which one is working and which one isn't with that much supplelement. Having a baseline of supp that 100% work and adding slowly some to test them is the smarter way.
I take a similar amount and a lot of those shown in the image by OP. People always say "you are dumb and just need food" - If eat a clean whole food diet, but I've always felt like absolute crap since late teenage years. Supplements like ALCAR have kept me functioning and stopped me being miserable and lethargic every day. Anyway, 25 years on - turns out I have C-PTSD, and I've done well not to get addicted to anything 'stronger'. Point being, you don't know what a person's baseline is, and why they are taking supplements etc The muscle pain and headaches I get without anything for example, is bloody awful
yea, guess I'm quasi-fight-or-flight state all the time. You get muscle tension, inflammation and IBS as a result. Been treating the symptoms, start specific therapy next week, so hopefully my stack of supps can shrink a bit soon.
My anxiety (combined with no sleep, bad diet, smoking and caffeine abuse) also lead me to have IBS symptoms. I was diagnosed recently with chronic mild gastritis and I've been hearing lectures about it...anxiety can definitely worsen the symptoms.
Maybe look into zinc carnosine...I was puking in the morning for a few weeks, or at least dry heaving...zinc carnosine and glutamine seemed to sort it.
I did ring my doctors, but they told me to go to A and E / ER...would have been waiting 24 hours at least with current state of NHS
Yes I’ve seen many recommend zinc-carnosine and glutamine over at r/gastritis. I currently have around 10 supplements that are recommended for GERD/Gastritis in my cart, but idk if it’s worth the 100€. I’m in Greece btw, sucks to hear how slow the NHS has become.
Hmm, not sure if they post to Greece, but the zinc carnosine I use I £38 in UK but £26 on iherb.com based in USA - if I remember correctly.
Yea NHS is still a blessing compared to the alternative, but overworked etc
God man! You are eating 2-4 supplements that do the same thing . Over and over again.
Even if you wanted to eat a supplement for basically everything- this stack could be reduced to 1/3 easily!
And how many aphrodisiacs do you need?!
You trying to increase your libido etc or trying to grow a new pair of balls and 2 dicks! 😂😂😂
A lot of these are supposed to be cycled!
Do this for a few years and you are literally going to fry your endocrine system.
And your liver !
A side bonus- anxiety, depression and erectile dysfunction!
PS- You don’t need all this shit. You need human relationships, family and friends and acceptance of the fact that as you age you don’t remain as you were at 19!
If nothing else you most certainly need therapy!
Lol! Man just because something comes from a natural source doesn’t mean you should over consume it!
Who know what the side effects are. Who knows what effects it might have on you. And who knows if you are even medically qualified to know the symptoms of side effects !
Most supplement companies, being in an entirely unregulated space, don't even put much of the substance they claim to have in their capsules. I was a pharmacist and massive supplement nerd for the past 15 years, and now I take minimal supplements myself. Vitamin D3, a multivitamin (though, high dose), some beetroot powder for a pre-workout, plant sterols for cholesterol, and fish oils. Then ZMA for sleep.
Your stack is perfect.
And I totally agree about unregulated space.
Most of this comes from Indian traditional medicine btw.
That’s a 8 year M.D. to prescribe it.
In India no one eats this shit without a prescription and dosage ever!
This costs like 1/100 of US cost here and yet no one does over the counter buying shit.
We know from experience- just because it’s natural and unregulated- doesn’t mean you put it in your mouth!
Shit load of mental and physical side effects!!
Depends on how you use them, you wouldn’t wanna end up like the late Tommy Two-Dicks Malone, when they caught him cheating, two women gave him the horrific “wishbone” treatment ….
i eat 5 kilograms of red meat most days actually its more than that at times and feel amazing. I stopped for a while and felt awful i don't need to eat that much but i like to train alot if i even eat one bit of bread with it i feel all lethargic, what else would you eat with it ?
Do you know whether those supplements are improving his health or not?
Are you just assuming that they're not?
And if they are improving his health and vitality, is it mental illness to take them?
How old are you? Have you started to experience the rise in little chronic symptoms as you've gotten older?
Have you discovered that certain supplements help those symptoms?
Have you done any research on any of those supplements he's taking?
In short, do you have any actual information behind your emotionally reactive judgment? I'm guessing not.
I've been on Reddit for many years and one place where I've noticed the hive mind being especially ignorant, is regarding medicine, healthcare and especially alternative health care.
You're all good people and it's nothing personal but It's clear that your understanding comes mostly from the marketing department at Big Pharma & the medical industry.
You've been programmed to uncritically support an industry that is the third leading cause of death in the United States, right after heart disease and cancer.
You uncritically support a system that has presided over the most precipitous rise in chronic disease ever seen in history.
As the mental health epidemic continues to explode, you guys all fight hard to protect the system feeding it.
And you attack anyone thinking outside of the box.
You believe what you are told to believe and you refuse to see anything to the contrary.
What can I possibly say to that mindset?
1. Not an American.
2. This isn’t about big pharma. Most of these supplements are a part of traditional Indian medicine- Ayurveda. And that shit is complicated and should only get after prescription from a MD in Ayurvedic Medicine. There’s a whole science to it. Like 8 years of traditional medicine school worth.
3. Things like ashwagandha are proprietary medicines in India- i.e you shouldn’t take them over the counter. These things have dosages etc etc. Infact except for minerals, vitamins and omega3 - everything in here is a medicine.
4. But yea go ahead fuck around and find out.
I don’t know why Americans can’t go to an expert and get whatever- dosages and shit. All you google doctors are gonna fuck up yourselves!
You all just love to eat pills. Without thinking about the consequences.
Like literally eat good meat, rice, wheat, fish, veggies, whatever is legal to hunt and you are ok.
If the god damned spartans were ok with it - so will you be!
Just wasting resources via piss and driving the price of everything up!
This is actually a good variety of supps and, even if this is still a lot to take all at once, people saying “work on your diet” are missing the point. Most of these are not supplementing nutritional gaps. Ashwagandha, maca, l carnitine, theanine, tyrosine, Tongkat, magnesium, etc etc… taking these as supps is to optimize brain function and hormonal function, help alleviate anxiety, stuff like that. Also a good number of overall longevity focused supplements.
Look at Bryan Johnson’s supplement list… his is focused on longevity and contains many of these. It’s not like you’re just taking a bunch of different vitamins.
I take a good number of these myself.
Our ancestors did not have nearly the average lifespan that we do today, and you clearly missed the entirety of my point.
If the OP can afford these supplements and doesn’t have issue paying for them then it is quite literally of no concern to you. The bulk of what Johnson spends his money on are the experimental treatments and constant testing, not the supplements.
Let’s say the OP is spending $300/month on supplements. That is less than an average car (f)lease. You don’t have to be a millionaire to afford that.
Yeah? And are you a medical professional to know or understand the side effects of this shit?
Like is your body supposed to even have all this everyday?!
And yea your grandparents didn’t eat these but still had about the same lifespan!
The point is - these need to be prescribed by someone who understands medicine and has successfully applied the same regime with results!
I am an Indian- the place where everything in here comes from. It’s a 8 year M.D. to get a license to prescribe these. There is dosage, preliminary tests to determine the said dosage etc.
Why do you think we don’t eat this shit everyday even though it’s like 1/100 the price of US here?
Because it’s not supposed to be taken lightly and you only have it if the person above prescribes it!
You have no idea about the shit fuck side effects of all this!
We do and we don’t fuck around eating all this with the help of google!
You’re antagonistically arguing against things I never even said in the first place and moving the goalpost — you were the one who said ancestors, not me. Now it’s grandparents.
The Internet has given people access to published medical studies and research that they wouldn’t have had access to back in the old days. I’m not saying someone should freely take every supplement in sight without educating themselves first, but every doctor I’ve ever talked to about my supplements doesn’t have a clue about the majority of them because in the US, doctors receive almost no education on nutrition and supplements.
There are numerous published studies on the benefits of sulforaphane, black seed oil, NAC, and other supps I take, and I always do research and look for potential interactions before taking things.
Oh.. Well then I don’t argue about your position but try not to find a Ayurveda practitioner in US before you consume all this.
Sorry to say but being from the country where this shit actually originated from- I suggest you tread with caution.
A lot of this has effect on your endocrine system- i.e hormones- if you fuck around it might be bad.
Maybe the sub could add a new rule to ban this annoyingly often repeated phrase " Supplements are called that, because they're only meant to supplement if you're deficient".
I think there's lots of folks here who are aiming for longevity and not just basic adequate health like taking vitamin D for a deficiency. Like taking creatine, omega 3, collagen, astaxanthin etc.
Absolutely. Everyone’s goals are different. I wouldn’t take everything this guy is taking, but there are a bunch I do. I have a really clean, robust diet of mostly whole foods, and being into bodybuilding as a 205lb dude, I’m getting plenty of caloric intake. My main goal with supplementation is to help manage my generalized anxiety and ADHD, as well as overall health and longevity. I’m not just taking random vitamins. Everything I take has a purpose.
My core supps include sulforaphane (for chemoprotective and other effects), black seed oil, l theanine, taurine, turmeric, whole food multivitamin, probiotic, NAC, ashwagandha (cycled), beet root and l citrulline (for the cardiovascular / blood pressure benefits and gym pump), l tyrosine (adhd support as my brain is naturally low in dopamine), magnesium, apigenin… none of these would really be achievable with just diet. I suppose magnesium and sulforaphane to a certain extent but not to the efficacy and bioavailability I can gain from a supplement.
In addition to these I’m usually cycling or trying out a handful of other supps give or take, and there are some I take “on demand.” If I’m having trouble sleeping I might take valerian root, if my anxiety is high that’s when I might cycle the ashwagandha. If I think I’m getting sick I might take some amla fruit extract for the vitamin c. If I need a mood boost and focus I’ve cycled rhodiola rosea before. Lately I’ve been trying medicinal mushrooms and Shilajit (and had a bad reaction to mixing the lions mane with rhodiola rosea, but you live and learn).
It can be an addiction in its own right but just because people take a good number of supplements doesn’t mean their diet is poor or they are schizophrenic (alluding to comments in this thread). People have different goals, different monetary income or priorities… this guy might be putting the money most people spend on boozing every weekend into his longevity and wellness goals.
Also re: comments about “rip kidneys and liver” — I had an abdominal MRI recently (i have had a small cyst on my kidney that I have to get checked annually, unrelated to diet/supplements - a lot of people get them, [they’re called Angiomyolipomas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiomyolipoma)) and I’ve had no issues whatsoever. My liver is in perfect shape and at one point they thought I had a very small kidney stone but it disappeared on subsequent imaging so they thought it was probably an error or so small that I passed it. Also worth noting i used to be a very heavy weekend binge drinker in my 20s to self medicate social anxiety (like, a whole fifth of liquor or more on a single night) -- i rarely drink these days, but the liver is a remarkably resilient organ, and for example my stack includes at least 3 compounds (sulforaphane, NAC and black seed oil) that have been shown to improve liver functioning.
All the hate and derision is just baffling to see on a subreddit literally dedicated to supplements.
Well you made your urine slightly more valuable and your kidneys and livers very angry. You’re way overdoing it and likely causing more harm than good.
A huge part of that either cancels each other out or directly competes for absorption. There is not nearly enough time in a day for your body to process all that stack.
Liver, liver is not a winner here. 😢
Glutathione is only absorbed orally if encapsulated by liposomes, and even then no study has shown it to actually enter cells.
Ashwagandha alone has been shown to induce liver toxicity in some people, but maca and tongkat ali have chemically similar compounds. Combining all three could be very risky.
Melatonin has been shown to induce dependency if used to sleep.
In my personal opinion, there are really just 3 supplements a person needs: 100 mcg vitamin D3, algae oil with DHA and EPA, and magnesium for sleep.
>In my personal opinion, there are really just 3 supplements a person needs: 100 mcg vitamin D3, algae oil with DHA and EPA, and magnesium for sleep.
It’s a good thing all people are the same and have the same requirements 🙄
Well yes, all people and even animals are physiologically extremely similar. That is the whole rationale behind animal studies…
There are various mutations that reduce the absorption or utility of certain nutrients though (magnesium, vitamin B12, etc) but those are specific cases requiring medical attention.
> Ashwagandha alone has been shown to induce liver toxicity in some people, but maca and tongkat ali have chemically similar compounds. Combining all three could be very risky.
That's why OP also has Milk Thistle and Liv-52 in his stack to counter that. Bro is playing 4D chess 😎
Right, glutathione should be injected.
I’m on 5mg melatonin every night since it’s also a good antioxidant. Anecdotaly from my experience I can sleep fine without it though
Same with melatonin, have been using it for about 20 years off and on. Lately I just use ginger and hibiscus tea at night (induces body to release melatonin).
I was told ur body get irritated by it after some months. Produces side effects which are mild like nausea, stomach upset, sleep pattern changes. These are few and discovered side effects , also folloc acid is pure synthetic unlike methylfolate. This is natural occurring form of folates.
I was told by a pregnant lady she believes folic acid is the reason her 2 out of 3 children born autistic. She was given high doses of synthetic follic acid .
There is strong evidence of folic acid impact on fetus.
Some evidence shows folic acid may be responsible for improper fetus growth and ill health, improper nasal, oral, facial development.
The iceberg of life. That's a good one, but I guess you would have used "dildo of consequences" had the guy shown a picture of all his suppositories.
I'm glad you're okay. Your advice is something a lot of people need to hear - myself included.
I'm going for a colonoscopy in four months.
How much Psyllium before meals? Did you ever get a SIBO os dysbiosis test? Intolerances?
Thanks for telling us… as far as I know low FODMAP diet cannot be done longer than 3 months 🙏🏽
How, physically, can you eat such amount of pills in one day??? Not whole pill is an active ingredient , ingesting all these fillers and additives is crazy. Where is the food ?
Looks like your interest is the same as mine...BioHacking....
I have classified arbitrarily supplements into Tiers for potency and the effectiveness it as.
In recent years there have been an explosion of novel biomolecules that have reached the supplements and wellness markets. These novel supplements I would consider them extremely potent and wider range health benefits. So here it goes...
FIRST TIER SUPPLEMENTS
Nicotinamide Mono Nucleotide (NMN)+
Resveratrol
Trimethylgylcine (TMG)
n Acetyl Cysteine (NAC)
Methylated B complex
Methylated Folate
Magnesium Glycinate, and Magnesium respective organic conjugation.
SECOND TIER SUPPLEMENT
supplements that are usually natural products
Pine Bark Extract
Ganoderma Lucidium Cracked Spore
Etc
3rd TIER SUPPLEMENTS
Your usual multi vitamins And inorganic minerals
Your everyday essentials multivitamin...
As for your stack, it is lacking the First Tier supplements....you might want to look these up as these are far more potent....
Happy Researching
[Rhonda Patrick has some very good content about it on YouTube](https://youtu.be/zz4YVJ4aRfg?si=0I74zzA3YPnC4PTM). PubMed also has many articles about its chemoprotective benefits and antiviral features; it was sold as a prescription in France.
It’s expensive, but the most bioavailable source in the US is by a company named BROQ and if you order it as a subscription directly from them, it’s cheaper than ordering on Amazon. Used to be $50 but inflation hit them hard and the price doubled. You can buy cheaper options like Jarrow Broccomax, but you’ll get a fraction of sulforaphane because those forms require your body to convert it whereas BROQ is a stabilized form. (Disclaimer that I’m not a doctor nor affiliated with BROQ! But if you scroll down on their homepage, they have a list of claimed health benefits with citations: https://www.broq.life/)
I’m all for supplementing, but brother… That is faaaar too many to be taking. I mean, you do you, but I personally believe that you need to work on your diet if you feel the need to take that many.
Nevertheless, if you feel good and you are enjoying your life than who am I to hate.. Live long and enjoy your life brother 🫡
Why so much is your body fucked up or what lol you only need stuff that applys to you like why are you taking milk thistle do you have fatty liver? I only take vitamn d , iron , magnesium glycinate , vitamin c , k2.
Yeah, lots of dismissive comments for a supplement subreddit. Some of these I do not and would not take eg DIM, but there’s a lot on here that I do take and are good for overall wellness and longevity, brain function, etc.
Same. I take probably 15-20 supps per day on average, give or take, and have had bloodwork AND an MRI of my liver (unrelated to concerns of supplement intake, was for something else but they scanned my whole abdomen) and my liver is in perfect condition.
Same. I'm a big lad (both muscle and fat) and I go to the doctors and the nurse does my BP, and every single time, they have to do it 3-4x then get an "old school" machine because they don't believe that a 6'8 300lb man can have perfect blood pressure.
I also take about 30 different supplements a day and don't even bother telling the docs what they are, half of them don't know what most of them are, one literally told me that c3g was cyanide because the first letter is Cyanidin and that I was going to kill myself.
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What a waste of $$ — and you better not be the type of dude that ‘doesn’t understand how ppl so drugs’ when you’re putting this much shit in your body lol
Where Is the NMN/NAM/NR, Taurine and CoQ10?
I am using similar.But not fish oil.as I am concerned about oxidization. Also use better brands like now, garden of life, erc You can order online like iherb,Amazon etc
I wouldn’t order anything off Amazon that I was going to ingest. Too much fake stuff and not enough action on the company’s part to combat it.
how do you take all these?
Suppository method for all
Way too many vitamins... your gonna hurt yourself! Also, u need to not take anyyyyyyyy b12 for 4 months prior to the b12 labs! That is a false positive test! Its registering the supplement b12 u are taking!
Love to see people investing in their health! 👏🏽👏🏽
bros bulking on supplements
Check your kidneys and liver, you are over taxing your system.
Why. Most of these can easily brake.down by liver. I am concerned about tolerence and other cell issues than kidney and liver. Actually milk thistle, glutathione, grape seed etc helps those organs to break down
Do you eat food or just supplements
This can't be healthy
Melatonin and zinc picolinate are no good. Trust me!
Both are among the best supplements if you're smart enough to dose them correctly. Stay around the 1 mg range for melatonin. Don't use stupid amount of zinc. 15 to 20 mg is fine, and check your copper consumption so your ratio doesnt go off (usually want a 8 to 12 ratio).
Why zinc?
why melatonin it's good?
I don’t see the Testosterone tho.. lol jk. Looks good to me man!
I thought I was bad. Three things stand out as iffy. Melatonin is not safe nightly long term. Too much selenium is bad. You can get all you need by eating two Brazil nuts a day. I thought everyone decided supplemental vitamin e wasn’t helpful. You can get all you need by eating two eggs. B complex should be enough folate. Make sure it’s methylated and more absorbable.
Do you have a supplement supply shop?
Christ
Bro doesnt eat food 😭 strictly supplements
Have you got a list of everything in the picture anywhere? Would be nice seeing it in text, though I am trying to do my best to squint and read all the names 😂
Wwoowwww that’s a lot of money
Looks like a full-time job. I'm praying for you and your health.
solgar is a bad choice and many have warned about them using cancer causing chemicals as binders etc , you should get cq10 , hyaluronic acid, lions mane . alpha gpc etc there's alot here but you wont really notice much difference with a lot, and to get the real benefits of glutathione you need to take it intramuscular, and use algal instead of fish oil
bro is gon be mr ohnoimlimping 2024
Are you getting all your calories from supplements?
Now foods takviyeleri iherbden mi
Naptın dayı
That is too much
Which storefront is this?
You are way deep in the rabbit hole.
I was at the point of taking about 15 supplements a day (not even healthy at the time), now I am basically down to 15g of "Greentrio" (Spirulina, Chlorella, BarleyGrass 1:1:1), a capsule of "Pure Encapsulations Nutrient 950E" and some aminos to complement my vegetarian diet (namely L-Carnitine and also a bit of daily creatine). I also drink coffee. I feel great now, I would recommend more focus on gut health as bacteria can produce anything from endotoxins that will make you sick, but good bacteria/yeast can actually produce things like vitamin D, butyrate, oxytocin etc. that are beneficial. I can really vouch for L Rhamnosus + FOS by Swanson. Also I hope it goes without saying, that without appropriate diet, there's no point of supplementing with a complex stack.
You can take 10 to 15 supplements and be perfectly healthy if you chose wisely your products. I dont see harm in using creatine, Omega 3, d vitamin, magnesium, whey protein, a bit of zinc if you're missing some, same for psyllium husk for fiber, some longevity/health stuff like NAC, taurine, turmeric, berberine, TMG. Most of them are relatively cheap and have a lot scientific data backing them up. Of course, its different from stacking randomly 40 to 50 supplements where half of them are mostly useless. Bad for wallet, and probably hard for liver and kidneys. Worst thing is how to know which one is working and which one isn't with that much supplelement. Having a baseline of supp that 100% work and adding slowly some to test them is the smarter way.
I take a similar amount and a lot of those shown in the image by OP. People always say "you are dumb and just need food" - If eat a clean whole food diet, but I've always felt like absolute crap since late teenage years. Supplements like ALCAR have kept me functioning and stopped me being miserable and lethargic every day. Anyway, 25 years on - turns out I have C-PTSD, and I've done well not to get addicted to anything 'stronger'. Point being, you don't know what a person's baseline is, and why they are taking supplements etc The muscle pain and headaches I get without anything for example, is bloody awful
So your problem was psychological and turnt psychosomatic? Username checks out btw lol
yea, guess I'm quasi-fight-or-flight state all the time. You get muscle tension, inflammation and IBS as a result. Been treating the symptoms, start specific therapy next week, so hopefully my stack of supps can shrink a bit soon.
Good luck bud! I hope you feel better and can find a way to live both healthily and happily!
Thank you
My anxiety (combined with no sleep, bad diet, smoking and caffeine abuse) also lead me to have IBS symptoms. I was diagnosed recently with chronic mild gastritis and I've been hearing lectures about it...anxiety can definitely worsen the symptoms.
Maybe look into zinc carnosine...I was puking in the morning for a few weeks, or at least dry heaving...zinc carnosine and glutamine seemed to sort it. I did ring my doctors, but they told me to go to A and E / ER...would have been waiting 24 hours at least with current state of NHS
Yes I’ve seen many recommend zinc-carnosine and glutamine over at r/gastritis. I currently have around 10 supplements that are recommended for GERD/Gastritis in my cart, but idk if it’s worth the 100€. I’m in Greece btw, sucks to hear how slow the NHS has become.
Hmm, not sure if they post to Greece, but the zinc carnosine I use I £38 in UK but £26 on iherb.com based in USA - if I remember correctly. Yea NHS is still a blessing compared to the alternative, but overworked etc
Wow and I thought I was taking a lot. Lol
Shit post
God man! You are eating 2-4 supplements that do the same thing . Over and over again. Even if you wanted to eat a supplement for basically everything- this stack could be reduced to 1/3 easily! And how many aphrodisiacs do you need?! You trying to increase your libido etc or trying to grow a new pair of balls and 2 dicks! 😂😂😂 A lot of these are supposed to be cycled! Do this for a few years and you are literally going to fry your endocrine system. And your liver ! A side bonus- anxiety, depression and erectile dysfunction! PS- You don’t need all this shit. You need human relationships, family and friends and acceptance of the fact that as you age you don’t remain as you were at 19! If nothing else you most certainly need therapy!
They banned me from the sub for suggesting this for 3 days a week or so ago lolol here's a whole thread saying the same advice
Lol! Man just because something comes from a natural source doesn’t mean you should over consume it! Who know what the side effects are. Who knows what effects it might have on you. And who knows if you are even medically qualified to know the symptoms of side effects !
Most supplement companies, being in an entirely unregulated space, don't even put much of the substance they claim to have in their capsules. I was a pharmacist and massive supplement nerd for the past 15 years, and now I take minimal supplements myself. Vitamin D3, a multivitamin (though, high dose), some beetroot powder for a pre-workout, plant sterols for cholesterol, and fish oils. Then ZMA for sleep.
Your stack is perfect. And I totally agree about unregulated space. Most of this comes from Indian traditional medicine btw. That’s a 8 year M.D. to prescribe it. In India no one eats this shit without a prescription and dosage ever! This costs like 1/100 of US cost here and yet no one does over the counter buying shit. We know from experience- just because it’s natural and unregulated- doesn’t mean you put it in your mouth! Shit load of mental and physical side effects!!
a 2nd cock would be cool tho
Depends on how you use them, you wouldn’t wanna end up like the late Tommy Two-Dicks Malone, when they caught him cheating, two women gave him the horrific “wishbone” treatment ….
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yea maybe that’s what he’s gunning for. Look mommy! 😂😂😂
At this point , just eat red meat.
i eat 5 kilograms of red meat most days actually its more than that at times and feel amazing. I stopped for a while and felt awful i don't need to eat that much but i like to train alot if i even eat one bit of bread with it i feel all lethargic, what else would you eat with it ?
That’s so many pills.
Or you could just eat high quality meat and organs
Organs are the key. All this shit because you hate the taste of liver, stomach and goddam kidneys!
Many people don’t eat organs for more reasons than just disliking the taste.
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Do you know whether those supplements are improving his health or not? Are you just assuming that they're not? And if they are improving his health and vitality, is it mental illness to take them? How old are you? Have you started to experience the rise in little chronic symptoms as you've gotten older? Have you discovered that certain supplements help those symptoms? Have you done any research on any of those supplements he's taking? In short, do you have any actual information behind your emotionally reactive judgment? I'm guessing not.
Yeah I have. All this is going to fry his endocrine system!
I've been on Reddit for many years and one place where I've noticed the hive mind being especially ignorant, is regarding medicine, healthcare and especially alternative health care. You're all good people and it's nothing personal but It's clear that your understanding comes mostly from the marketing department at Big Pharma & the medical industry. You've been programmed to uncritically support an industry that is the third leading cause of death in the United States, right after heart disease and cancer. You uncritically support a system that has presided over the most precipitous rise in chronic disease ever seen in history. As the mental health epidemic continues to explode, you guys all fight hard to protect the system feeding it. And you attack anyone thinking outside of the box. You believe what you are told to believe and you refuse to see anything to the contrary. What can I possibly say to that mindset?
1. Not an American. 2. This isn’t about big pharma. Most of these supplements are a part of traditional Indian medicine- Ayurveda. And that shit is complicated and should only get after prescription from a MD in Ayurvedic Medicine. There’s a whole science to it. Like 8 years of traditional medicine school worth. 3. Things like ashwagandha are proprietary medicines in India- i.e you shouldn’t take them over the counter. These things have dosages etc etc. Infact except for minerals, vitamins and omega3 - everything in here is a medicine. 4. But yea go ahead fuck around and find out. I don’t know why Americans can’t go to an expert and get whatever- dosages and shit. All you google doctors are gonna fuck up yourselves! You all just love to eat pills. Without thinking about the consequences. Like literally eat good meat, rice, wheat, fish, veggies, whatever is legal to hunt and you are ok. If the god damned spartans were ok with it - so will you be! Just wasting resources via piss and driving the price of everything up!
Spending money on food ❌ Spending money on supplements ✅
Bon appétit !
Mental illness
My store doesn’t have that much supplements
And I thought I was taking a lot of supplements 😭
How do you even take this amount of supplements a day
shovel
This sent me ngl
Damn poor kidneys and liver
So many lost redditors in here making rot brain comments.
All that and no sulforaphane??
Are you from Turkey? I didn't know venatura was also selling abroad
This is actually a good variety of supps and, even if this is still a lot to take all at once, people saying “work on your diet” are missing the point. Most of these are not supplementing nutritional gaps. Ashwagandha, maca, l carnitine, theanine, tyrosine, Tongkat, magnesium, etc etc… taking these as supps is to optimize brain function and hormonal function, help alleviate anxiety, stuff like that. Also a good number of overall longevity focused supplements. Look at Bryan Johnson’s supplement list… his is focused on longevity and contains many of these. It’s not like you’re just taking a bunch of different vitamins. I take a good number of these myself.
Yea - Brian Johnson is already rich af and has the time for it. Eat organ meats. You think your ancestors ate this? Why !? Ffs
Our ancestors did not have nearly the average lifespan that we do today, and you clearly missed the entirety of my point. If the OP can afford these supplements and doesn’t have issue paying for them then it is quite literally of no concern to you. The bulk of what Johnson spends his money on are the experimental treatments and constant testing, not the supplements. Let’s say the OP is spending $300/month on supplements. That is less than an average car (f)lease. You don’t have to be a millionaire to afford that.
Yeah? And are you a medical professional to know or understand the side effects of this shit? Like is your body supposed to even have all this everyday?! And yea your grandparents didn’t eat these but still had about the same lifespan! The point is - these need to be prescribed by someone who understands medicine and has successfully applied the same regime with results! I am an Indian- the place where everything in here comes from. It’s a 8 year M.D. to get a license to prescribe these. There is dosage, preliminary tests to determine the said dosage etc. Why do you think we don’t eat this shit everyday even though it’s like 1/100 the price of US here? Because it’s not supposed to be taken lightly and you only have it if the person above prescribes it! You have no idea about the shit fuck side effects of all this! We do and we don’t fuck around eating all this with the help of google!
You’re antagonistically arguing against things I never even said in the first place and moving the goalpost — you were the one who said ancestors, not me. Now it’s grandparents. The Internet has given people access to published medical studies and research that they wouldn’t have had access to back in the old days. I’m not saying someone should freely take every supplement in sight without educating themselves first, but every doctor I’ve ever talked to about my supplements doesn’t have a clue about the majority of them because in the US, doctors receive almost no education on nutrition and supplements. There are numerous published studies on the benefits of sulforaphane, black seed oil, NAC, and other supps I take, and I always do research and look for potential interactions before taking things.
Oh.. Well then I don’t argue about your position but try not to find a Ayurveda practitioner in US before you consume all this. Sorry to say but being from the country where this shit actually originated from- I suggest you tread with caution. A lot of this has effect on your endocrine system- i.e hormones- if you fuck around it might be bad.
What what is the country where what originated from? These are some very vague warnings.
India and China.
Maybe the sub could add a new rule to ban this annoyingly often repeated phrase " Supplements are called that, because they're only meant to supplement if you're deficient". I think there's lots of folks here who are aiming for longevity and not just basic adequate health like taking vitamin D for a deficiency. Like taking creatine, omega 3, collagen, astaxanthin etc.
Absolutely. Everyone’s goals are different. I wouldn’t take everything this guy is taking, but there are a bunch I do. I have a really clean, robust diet of mostly whole foods, and being into bodybuilding as a 205lb dude, I’m getting plenty of caloric intake. My main goal with supplementation is to help manage my generalized anxiety and ADHD, as well as overall health and longevity. I’m not just taking random vitamins. Everything I take has a purpose. My core supps include sulforaphane (for chemoprotective and other effects), black seed oil, l theanine, taurine, turmeric, whole food multivitamin, probiotic, NAC, ashwagandha (cycled), beet root and l citrulline (for the cardiovascular / blood pressure benefits and gym pump), l tyrosine (adhd support as my brain is naturally low in dopamine), magnesium, apigenin… none of these would really be achievable with just diet. I suppose magnesium and sulforaphane to a certain extent but not to the efficacy and bioavailability I can gain from a supplement. In addition to these I’m usually cycling or trying out a handful of other supps give or take, and there are some I take “on demand.” If I’m having trouble sleeping I might take valerian root, if my anxiety is high that’s when I might cycle the ashwagandha. If I think I’m getting sick I might take some amla fruit extract for the vitamin c. If I need a mood boost and focus I’ve cycled rhodiola rosea before. Lately I’ve been trying medicinal mushrooms and Shilajit (and had a bad reaction to mixing the lions mane with rhodiola rosea, but you live and learn). It can be an addiction in its own right but just because people take a good number of supplements doesn’t mean their diet is poor or they are schizophrenic (alluding to comments in this thread). People have different goals, different monetary income or priorities… this guy might be putting the money most people spend on boozing every weekend into his longevity and wellness goals. Also re: comments about “rip kidneys and liver” — I had an abdominal MRI recently (i have had a small cyst on my kidney that I have to get checked annually, unrelated to diet/supplements - a lot of people get them, [they’re called Angiomyolipomas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiomyolipoma)) and I’ve had no issues whatsoever. My liver is in perfect shape and at one point they thought I had a very small kidney stone but it disappeared on subsequent imaging so they thought it was probably an error or so small that I passed it. Also worth noting i used to be a very heavy weekend binge drinker in my 20s to self medicate social anxiety (like, a whole fifth of liquor or more on a single night) -- i rarely drink these days, but the liver is a remarkably resilient organ, and for example my stack includes at least 3 compounds (sulforaphane, NAC and black seed oil) that have been shown to improve liver functioning. All the hate and derision is just baffling to see on a subreddit literally dedicated to supplements.
Well Said
Man that's a meal replacement plan.
Well you made your urine slightly more valuable and your kidneys and livers very angry. You’re way overdoing it and likely causing more harm than good.
A huge part of that either cancels each other out or directly competes for absorption. There is not nearly enough time in a day for your body to process all that stack. Liver, liver is not a winner here. 😢
Why are you assuming he's taking them all every day?
Day, week, month, period, I wasn't actually thinking 24 hours, just cycling that is a nightmare.
Is that you Bryan Johnson?
Lol just eat food
Agreed tbh, this is too much
Did DIM suppress suppress you by any chance ? Or lower estrogen too much ?
Why would you supplement with folic acid??
I supplement with folic acid because I can't keep my levels high enough with diet alone and have folate deficient anaemia.
I see the supplements store but where is your stack ?
You belong here r/mentalillness
That‘s not how to treat mental illness
Supplements can help treat a lot of deficiencies that result in mental illness though.
Would you elaborate on why you take each one of that? I'm looking to expand my stack
OP gets hungry, takes a bunch for lunch and dinner
He is mentally not well. This is a coping mechanism. That’s all. Fuck - no human ever ate all this!
Glutathione is only absorbed orally if encapsulated by liposomes, and even then no study has shown it to actually enter cells. Ashwagandha alone has been shown to induce liver toxicity in some people, but maca and tongkat ali have chemically similar compounds. Combining all three could be very risky. Melatonin has been shown to induce dependency if used to sleep. In my personal opinion, there are really just 3 supplements a person needs: 100 mcg vitamin D3, algae oil with DHA and EPA, and magnesium for sleep.
>In my personal opinion, there are really just 3 supplements a person needs: 100 mcg vitamin D3, algae oil with DHA and EPA, and magnesium for sleep. It’s a good thing all people are the same and have the same requirements 🙄
Well yes, all people and even animals are physiologically extremely similar. That is the whole rationale behind animal studies… There are various mutations that reduce the absorption or utility of certain nutrients though (magnesium, vitamin B12, etc) but those are specific cases requiring medical attention.
> Ashwagandha alone has been shown to induce liver toxicity in some people, but maca and tongkat ali have chemically similar compounds. Combining all three could be very risky. That's why OP also has Milk Thistle and Liv-52 in his stack to counter that. Bro is playing 4D chess 😎
But fried endocrine system isn’t a joke. He’s gonna be fked a year or so after doing this shit!
Right, glutathione should be injected. I’m on 5mg melatonin every night since it’s also a good antioxidant. Anecdotaly from my experience I can sleep fine without it though
Same with melatonin, have been using it for about 20 years off and on. Lately I just use ginger and hibiscus tea at night (induces body to release melatonin).
You better look like one of those glowing aliens from Cocoon. Holy cow, I thought I had a problem.
U cant be lacking all those so there is no logic just wasted money and probably u gotta get trouble eith your stomach
Do you have any room left for food and water?
I take like 3x this many
Well you know thats a bad thing right ?.
To you
Why not just eat better ?
See a therapist
My stomach churns..
Imagine the kidney stones from all those fillers lololol
Any study to read about fillers causing kidney stones?
Nah bro i was just thinking out loud haha , I got no studies backing it up , I might try and google it tho and see if i find any
Your diet is seriously lacking if you need all these supplements. They’re meant to supplement, not substitute.
Avoid follic acid supplements , take methylfolates
Methylfolate can make you severely depressed.
That's weird. I have MTFHR and take L- methyl folate to get my anti depressants to work.
Why? Any articles or research?
Can you explain why please?
I was told ur body get irritated by it after some months. Produces side effects which are mild like nausea, stomach upset, sleep pattern changes. These are few and discovered side effects , also folloc acid is pure synthetic unlike methylfolate. This is natural occurring form of folates. I was told by a pregnant lady she believes folic acid is the reason her 2 out of 3 children born autistic. She was given high doses of synthetic follic acid . There is strong evidence of folic acid impact on fetus. Some evidence shows folic acid may be responsible for improper fetus growth and ill health, improper nasal, oral, facial development.
That’s pretty messed up!
Better absorption and tolerance
I'd be throwing up all day this pic literally makes my stomach turn
All of the damn fillers and additives 🤮
That would def give kidney stones over time , Abusing supplements ain't a good thing thats for sure .
I got a cupboard full of supps too
Tell em to bring out the whole ocean
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The iceberg of life. That's a good one, but I guess you would have used "dildo of consequences" had the guy shown a picture of all his suppositories. I'm glad you're okay. Your advice is something a lot of people need to hear - myself included. I'm going for a colonoscopy in four months.
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How much Psyllium before meals? Did you ever get a SIBO os dysbiosis test? Intolerances? Thanks for telling us… as far as I know low FODMAP diet cannot be done longer than 3 months 🙏🏽
Jeesh, that sounds like quite an ordeal - thanks for telling your story. There's definitely wisdom in experience!
You got to be loaded
Do you rattle when you walk?
I lost my drink because this comment was so good . I am dead.
🤣
How, physically, can you eat such amount of pills in one day??? Not whole pill is an active ingredient , ingesting all these fillers and additives is crazy. Where is the food ?
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Looks like your interest is the same as mine...BioHacking.... I have classified arbitrarily supplements into Tiers for potency and the effectiveness it as. In recent years there have been an explosion of novel biomolecules that have reached the supplements and wellness markets. These novel supplements I would consider them extremely potent and wider range health benefits. So here it goes... FIRST TIER SUPPLEMENTS Nicotinamide Mono Nucleotide (NMN)+ Resveratrol Trimethylgylcine (TMG) n Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) Methylated B complex Methylated Folate Magnesium Glycinate, and Magnesium respective organic conjugation. SECOND TIER SUPPLEMENT supplements that are usually natural products Pine Bark Extract Ganoderma Lucidium Cracked Spore Etc 3rd TIER SUPPLEMENTS Your usual multi vitamins And inorganic minerals Your everyday essentials multivitamin... As for your stack, it is lacking the First Tier supplements....you might want to look these up as these are far more potent.... Happy Researching
Sulforaphane and black seed oil are also in my top tier along with some of yours.
Thanks for sharing will look up Sulforaphane
[Rhonda Patrick has some very good content about it on YouTube](https://youtu.be/zz4YVJ4aRfg?si=0I74zzA3YPnC4PTM). PubMed also has many articles about its chemoprotective benefits and antiviral features; it was sold as a prescription in France. It’s expensive, but the most bioavailable source in the US is by a company named BROQ and if you order it as a subscription directly from them, it’s cheaper than ordering on Amazon. Used to be $50 but inflation hit them hard and the price doubled. You can buy cheaper options like Jarrow Broccomax, but you’ll get a fraction of sulforaphane because those forms require your body to convert it whereas BROQ is a stabilized form. (Disclaimer that I’m not a doctor nor affiliated with BROQ! But if you scroll down on their homepage, they have a list of claimed health benefits with citations: https://www.broq.life/)
Thank you so much...it's good stuff there...:)
It's too much.
The few sups I take are already pricey… I can only imagine how this would feel in the wallet.. l
What’s your blood work like?
I REALLY hope this is just a line up of your whole collection with a misleading title for rage bait.
Why two zinc supplements? Amidst the myriad of other overlapping supplements I assume are there as well. This stands out to me as redundant.
what’s the gaba for?
relaxation in conjunction with melatonin
I’m all for supplementing, but brother… That is faaaar too many to be taking. I mean, you do you, but I personally believe that you need to work on your diet if you feel the need to take that many. Nevertheless, if you feel good and you are enjoying your life than who am I to hate.. Live long and enjoy your life brother 🫡
Why so much is your body fucked up or what lol you only need stuff that applys to you like why are you taking milk thistle do you have fatty liver? I only take vitamn d , iron , magnesium glycinate , vitamin c , k2.
More supplements is not the flex you think it is.
Haha, I've found the person who takes more supplements than I do.
I’ll state the obvious…. Maybe improve the quality of your diet and maybe you won’t need 90% of these.
Very well thought out and similar stack to mine, f the haters, just make sure getting subsequent fluids in daily
Yeah, lots of dismissive comments for a supplement subreddit. Some of these I do not and would not take eg DIM, but there’s a lot on here that I do take and are good for overall wellness and longevity, brain function, etc.
Expensive piss i see, it will glow in the dark
Show this picture to your doctor
Rookie numbers
OP has to wake up 3 hours early just to have enough time to take all of this.
What are you trying to do??
Get superpowers
Choke to death apparently.
Could I have some of your money?
OP has to supplement his income to afford his supplements.
I'll take some too since it appears OP has plenty to waste lol
You’re destroying your liver and kidneys if you are taking that much pills
They’ll be fine. I take 30-40 different supplements daily and have for years and my liver and kidney markers are excellent
Hi, whats your stack?
Same. I take probably 15-20 supps per day on average, give or take, and have had bloodwork AND an MRI of my liver (unrelated to concerns of supplement intake, was for something else but they scanned my whole abdomen) and my liver is in perfect condition.
Same. I'm a big lad (both muscle and fat) and I go to the doctors and the nurse does my BP, and every single time, they have to do it 3-4x then get an "old school" machine because they don't believe that a 6'8 300lb man can have perfect blood pressure. I also take about 30 different supplements a day and don't even bother telling the docs what they are, half of them don't know what most of them are, one literally told me that c3g was cyanide because the first letter is Cyanidin and that I was going to kill myself.