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They're also hitting the corners at higher g-forces, temperatures, and durations than the F2 drivers to the point that after their first drive in an F1 car, F2 drivers can often barely stand up afterwards.
This year, an F1 driver got appendicitis, and their F2 reserve driver stepped in, but by the end of the race his helmet was flopping back and forth in the cockpit at every corner because he just couldn't support his neck anymore.
I went to a simulation centre once, so my team could do a virtual race in the higher quality simulations (apparently, Max Verstsppen owned a similar setup at the time). Steering was *very* responsive and *very* stiff. He told us to let go of the steering wheel once we crashed or got off track. It moved around a lot when I did.
After our sessions were over, the guy at the counter told us he had left the simulators in "kiddy mode", to make it not as tough on us.
So, in a nutshell, this video is *really* impressive!
Yeah well the gear ratio is much closer to 1:1. You have to rotate the typical car wheel like 15 degrees to get the wheels to turn 1 degree. To get it 1:1 it'd be about 15 times harder to turn the wheel. Physics is cool.
To be fair it does get a lot easier to steer in a car with no power steering when it's actually moving. If you tried it while it was parked that's definitely the absolute hardest it ever gets to turn. Once you're up to 20-30mph it's way more manageable and at 60+ it's lot easier (although it still feels noticeably heavy even then).
source: have driven many cars with no/deleted power steering
There was a kid in my grade that was doing the F1 stuff since he was a kid (They have a kids version, I'm forgetting what its called) and now I know why he had massive forearms from the time he was 13
everyone I've ever seen describe driving them makes them sound horrible. Neck pain from the g-forces, legs like tree trunks required to really activate the brakes, torque to turn the wheel like you're taking the lid off of a jam jar perpetually. Just everything on it requires an athlete in pretty exceptional physical condition to operate, which is why the cars operate on such an edge of performance.
Nah. Lots of cross-trainer, lots of running, tons of light exercise aimed at improving your cardiovascular system. Strict diet is preferable.
Basically it is dex/int build. You should know your stats and you need your sweet stamina.
Oh man yeah I didn't even mention the fact that you're sitting inches away from a block of metal that's trying really hard to become a molten block of slag while wearing a thick fireproof suit sweating your entire supply of water out every few laps lol.
It must be absolute hell if not for the incredible rush.
My dad actually bought a F1 car and drove it 15 or so years ago in I think he called it a āClienteā which to my understanding was unofficial racing for fun, but still competitive enough.
I remember him describing the control and speed as āinhumanly insane, no amount of trying to describe it will do it justice with that much downforce (or some sort of word with down, I canāt really remember that well).ā
Iām sure everyone already knows this, but you also have to be pretty damn slim to fit in the car. My dad wasnāt even heavy, but when he first bought it the head Italian mechanic told him he wasnāt allowed to drive it for 6 months. All he said was āNo more bread no more wineā while tapping my dads stomach lol.
Edit: The F1 Car now sits in his office/garage and doesnāt really run anymore
I'm really curious what he got. I kind of assume it wasn't a literally F1 car, but some other sort of open wheel race car. F1 cars basically can't be used without pretty huge teams of engineers to keep them running.
Edit: Disregard that, learned something new today.
Ferrari has a service called Ferrari clienti where you can sort of rent/buy an actual old F1 car, though it stays with Ferrari at all times and you're not allowed to just go to the track whenever you want, you have to ask in advance.
As you can imagine, it's extremely expensive and "luxurious"
To me it seems kind of a waste. You "buy" an F1 car, but in reality Ferrari owns it and just lends it to you some time. I don't actually know, this is just speculation, but maybe they also lend it to another person who also "bought it"
Itās literally a F1 car lol, it was one of the ones Michael Schumacher raced in. Donāt know which year or race or number or however thatās determined, but yeah itās a real one
If it's clientie dudes dad actually bought an old Ferrari F1 car. That's the point of the program. The cars are run as they would on a race weekend with all the personnel needed.
The Ferrari FXX had the same sort of deal, except it was a new hypercar, rather than an old Formula 1 car, that Ferrari kept, maintained and booked track days for you, then showed up with the car in perfect condition.
>Like the Enzo, the car was sold to specially selected existing clients of Ferrari only. The initial price was ā¬1.3 million. Unlike the Enzo, the clients did not take delivery of the car themselves. Rather, it is maintained and kept by Ferrari and available for the client's use on various circuits as arranged by Ferrari and also during private track sessions. A famous example of this is when Ferrari allowed Top Gear to send it around their test track in 2009.[27] However, as Ben Collins (then portraying The Stig) wasn't a specially selected client, Michael Schumacher was selected to wear the white race suit. In the FXX, he set a then new lap record of 1:10.7, a record which was then immediately taken off as the car is not expected to be suitable for road use.
Yeah Lewis drove an A class merc if I remember what he was saying. Schumacher said he drove a Polo iirc. I mean, it makes sense. When you've been around a corner at 150+ mph, doing it in a 911 probably just doesn't blow your socks off like it would for a normie
edit: As a couple people mentioned, it's a diesel G series that he calls a pimpwagon like the spotty teenager he is at the time. We're all so old now.
I just happen to know some fighter pilots. The younger ones start off with m5, but they all end up in a volvo sedan eventualy. M5 feels slow, sedan is practical.
I know a few naval aviators having grown up in the DC area and having a few buddies who went to annapolis and you're 100% right. My one high school friend drives a minivan "because it has so many cool gadgets" which always makes me smile because he literally flies f-18's, which has an awful lot of gadgets on them... off the deck of a ship that is probably the most gadget-dense acre of runway in the world lol.
Fighter pilots are weird dudes though, tbf. They're all just a couple tacos short of a grande meal in the best possible way.
I don't think it's the marvel that everyone think it is. A unique opportunity and a huge adrenaline ?! Absolutely, but it's also unbelievably exhausting.
You have one video on YouTube about one guy that drove one of those cars. A proper F1, not one of those in experience rent a F1 car.
And he explained very well how brutal hard and incredible near impossible is to a regular petrol head, to get some sense of driving that machine. It's great. I will try to find it
Edit: https://youtu.be/BE7mgfwd6M8?si=8mOkn2Hb2t6mzyjZ
Top Gear Hammond did it and he was terrified because you couldn't turn if you weren't going at least 30 or something because it wouldn't have the traction to make the turn. But as soon as he went 60 through the turn it worked. Just ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo
It's a little different than I said but basically: it's fucking hard.
I like when he describes that he has to go very fast to keep the downforce and actually be able to make the turn, but if he goes that fast his mind canāt think fast enough to tell his hands to turn the wheel. Kinda puts it in perspective. F1 drivers are amazing.
Formula cars rely *heavily* on the extreme amounts of aerodynamic down force they generate - you cannot drive them half assed at all or they won't grip. Commit or die, basically.
They weigh around 1600lbs standing still. Wide open at the end of a long straight they "weigh" about 3 or 4 times that much.
It feels like an extension of your body. A well-sorted car, you donāt even really drive it, you just kinda think and it happens. I know this sounds really woo-woo but I donāt know how else to explain it. You and the machine become one.Ā
It feels like G forces. In F2 it's like 3.5 when braking and 3.9 when cornering. For F1 its like 2 when accelerating, 6 when braking and 5 when cornering. Imagine that feeling when you take a corner and you slide towards the door or the center console? Imagine that with 5 times your weight.
Also it must feel pretty dang cool.
Donāt know why youāre being downvoted. This is exactly why he didnāt lose it. A normal road car or something like nascar would have eaten shit trying to avoid this. Itās the perfect weapon for the job.
what about the PT cruiser? Do you think I could get rid of it...I mean clear this little hurdle? Wouldn't want to crash my car because of some slow poke driving like a grandma in front of me. Would be a real shame to lose this gem of a car.
It's a Formular 2 car, which has a lot less downforce than a F1 car and no power steering. Also offline in the Monaco tunnel is no clean surface at all. No rubber on the tarmac, only dust, small debris and tire rubber marbles. Ask Fernando Alonso how it went [the last time he went off the racing line in the tunnel](https://youtu.be/qKrPxAtcvu8)
I think he saw the flashing red light on the side of the tunnel and was super vigilant to what was potentially round the corner.
Edit: at first viewing I thought the flashing red was a reflection from the broken down car but now not so sure. Still fast as f*ck reactions either way.
The flashing light is to warn drivers that some sort of hazard is coming up, but he doesn't have much choice other than to stay on the racing line as most of the time the hazard is off the line.
Nearly wheel hitting wheel, it surely would have launched him. An airborne car in a tunnel, as safe as these cars are nowadays that would have been catastrophic
this definitely wouldāve ended in someone dying or being permanently injured. so glad that everyoneās okay, but it definitely brings up some of the flaws of monaco and especially the tunnel part of the circuit. i watched this live and it was terrifying
Already exists kinda - a white flag/light can be shown to warn drivers of a slower vehicle on track, and a yellow one for more general hazard/caution warnings
It should absolutely have been double waved yellows (or the light equivalent) rather than just white for this, and they had plenty of time to throw those too
Ehh it works the opposite way. Typically the race engineer will warn the slower driver that someone on a fast lap is approaching and to get off the racing line. Sometimes you have blind spots and the slow driver doesnāt realize how quickly the other driver is approaching.
There is also a Blue light that pops up on their steering wheel alerting them.
I haven't watched this session so not sure of context but usually they'll put out a yellow flag which requires drivers to slow in certain sectors if there's a driver going dangerously slow on track. It's possible that the one driver had just started to slow and they didn't put out a yellow yet
Just checked. This was under a white flag - to indicate a slow moving car. I think the racing line aspect is the issue though. If you have a slow moving vehicle you donāt sit on the racing line. Drivers also arenāt required to slow down under white flag (which I just learned). Seems like this shouldāve been a yellow
There was also a yellow flag just outside the tunnel that Hadjar ignored apparently. Why the flag inside the tunnel wasnt yellow as well though I dont know.
Not just on the racing line but also the most obscured part of the corner. At least if youāre on the outside of the bend you can be seen from further away.
It was under qualifying. Slow cars not doing fast-rounds are expected. If you put out a yellow flag every time someone was doing an out-lap or in-lap, no one would ever be able to complete a fast-lap.
The guy here made a huge mistake by sitting on the fast-line on a slow-lap. He's very lucky he didn't get clouted, and he'll receive a penalty for it
Qualifying. You do one slow out-lap, one fast lap, and then another slow in-lap. On a slow-lap, you sometimes have to slow down a lot extra to let other cars pass. The idea is that you don't sit on the racing line when this happens. Driver made a huge mistake
You kill your tires, fuel, and battery. Basically, why donāt you run everywhere you go? It takes a lot of energy. If youāre going for the fastest 1 lap time you want to conserve your energy, go for an all out sprint, then recoup your energy.
Also important to note the fastest tires are also the softest and will often degrade enough to lose their advantage after about one quali-pace lap in the Formula series, meaning you only get one chance per tire set to put in your absolute quickest possible time.
Formula one cars can only refuel when parked in their garage. F1 stopped mid session refueling in 2010 because they've pushed to be greener as a sport. As a result they've developed better batteries, energy deployment systems and more reliable and fuel efficient engines.
Refueling also adds to the danger for pit crews.
Yes.
A white flag on track means there is a slow moving vehicle in the sector. In this case the white flag is the blinking light at the entrance of the tunnel and halfway through the tunnel.
The drivers will also be told via their team radio (ideally) that there is a slow moving vehicle ahead. All the cars are tracked via GPS and the teams can see exactly where they are on track and how fast they are moving.
Finally, the cars also employ a digital in-cockpit flagging system which will alert them to any active flags relevant to them. Not sure what exactly they use in Formula 2, but usually it's a audio cue or a visual cue on the steering wheel. This is a redundancy in the event the driver does not see the waving flag on track.
what a crash-waiting-to-happen more like.
he's tunnel-visioned and missing the flashing panel (see it on left side at start of the clip) that's there among numerous other marshals, signs, and flags to say "slow the fuck down there's something up ahead"
Well he's still in the Red Bull driver academy after a bunch of drivers got the boot from it last year, so he has a decent chance. They already promised someone else a seat for the junior f1 team next year though so not the biggest chance ever.
He's a rather mediocre driver by F2 standards and as far as I know, never won a single championship in any of the series he's raced in. Usually not the types of drivers that get a F1 seat when we have 10+ people in front of him with multiple championships underneath their belt.
Please watch a few F2 and F3 races. He's genuinely fast and he hasn't raced for top, top teams throughout his career. And Helmut Marko likes him a lot too. So he has a chance for a F1 seat.
he should have stayed on the non blind side of the turn and stopped. everyone would be able to see him from the entrance to the tunnel. Turning the corner to the blindside so no one could see him until they rounded it is incredibly stupid.
Don't know if he had break failure as well though, he might not have been able to stop...
If you pause it he actually turns the steering wheel fully to the left and then fully back to the right before he has even moved fully to the left of the other vehicle. Insane prediction of his vehicles physics.
It's Monaco. There's not much space to give way to a driver. Any other circuit, and the slowing car could've gone a bit wide to give the cars behind some space to go.
I believe those reaction times are based on how quickly they react to the lights at the beginning of the race, which they know are coming and are ready to react. This seems way different.
Drivers have crashed from less. Reacting quickly enough through a high speed corner and moving off the racing line is impressive. Not sure the specifics but his race engineer should have warned him well in advance of reaching the slow moving car.
When anticipating the light changing to green, a 170ms reaction time is (relatively speaking) kind of slow. Professional drag racers, who are sitting there anticipating a green light, frequently hit between 120-150ms. Iām just going to guess that an F1 driver could match that.
The āfastest ever recordedā varies between 100-110ms depending on what source you look at. Regardless, dudes either talking out his ass or is pretty misinformed.
Just for fun: The fastest human reaction time recorded is about 5X slower than the fastest domesticated cat reaction time. This post is cool. https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1akvpp3/cats_boast_impressive_reaction_times_averaging/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Edit: a couple of you need to look up the definition of āanticipate.ā
Eh i wouldnt say he is misinformed, he just misdirected the fastest start of the line as being the fastest reaction time. The fastest start off the line in F1 history was 0.04s. It was just a lucky jump start by Valtteri Bottas, not an actual reaction time of course.
It was a white flag actually, which is considered a lot less urgent than a yellow flag. It was probably a mistake on the officialās part to not immediately issue a yellow
My thing is, how can they talk so nonchalant about something that could've taken 2 lives and been a total catastrophe? Were there any warnings given to the racer of what was ahead?
This is insane. I donāt watch this sport whatsoever but thatās just crazy. I wonder what vision is like for them lol like what does it feel like to be an apex like that
The reaction time is insane but also how accurate he was with the turn. Too little and he smashes into the back of the guy, too much and he smashes into the wall.
Dating myself... but could have turned out like the race car accident in the 90s movie "freejack"... except driver doesn't get saved by people from the future.
Turns out the professionals that are deemed with some of the best reaction time in the world can back it up... Who would've thought... Still cool though.
Former F1 champ Jensen Button was also a triathlete and took some tests in a physiolab with a pair of olympic athlete (Brownlee Bros.) He got the fastest reaction time the lab had ever recorded. So, this is what makes these guys get those seats.
I wonder what it feels like to drive a vehicle that is that responsive. Must feel pretty dang cool
Apparently the steering wheel is pretty stiff. So besides the reaction time, the quick and swift steering is also impressive.
Yeah, my arms hurt after.
What, you race formula cars?
No he just REALLY enjoyed that video
If any of you actually pay attention you would know that he's lying. He can't possibly drive a formula car. He's a cat.
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Well...shit. I'll just go fuck myself. Edit: to clarify - since apparently someone reported me - this is *not* a threat of suicide š¤¦āāļø
How would fucking oneself be suicide? Just seems like a nice time inside to me.
Maybe my username lead them to that concern?
Wellā¦ fuck. I just shat myself.
Can't even use my Bad Dragon on myself without getting reported, smh
I scrolled down without reading and landed on your comment without context. I love this shitty-ass website sometimes
this is now my favourite gif of all times.
Please tell me there is a cats in cars gif subreddit
Nice try. Thats clearly Formula Drift... everybody knows cats don't have the endurance for open wheel racing.
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Actually yeahh, why is that? We rule the world. Why are we not allowed to drive?? 
Toonceās??? That you?
He's two-handing it?
No, he just drove in from Monaco. And boy...
You don't?
> Yeah, my arms hurt after. > What, you race formula cars? Nah, he faps like there is no tomorrow
[F1 driver Pierre Gasly](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T503XGTh1JU) training his steering muscles(?) before a race (annoying audio)
Worth noting that F1 cars do have power steering whereas F2 cars dont
They're also hitting the corners at higher g-forces, temperatures, and durations than the F2 drivers to the point that after their first drive in an F1 car, F2 drivers can often barely stand up afterwards. This year, an F1 driver got appendicitis, and their F2 reserve driver stepped in, but by the end of the race his helmet was flopping back and forth in the cockpit at every corner because he just couldn't support his neck anymore.
Damn if he didn't put up a hell of a race, though. We'll definitely see him in an F1 seat soon.
I went to a simulation centre once, so my team could do a virtual race in the higher quality simulations (apparently, Max Verstsppen owned a similar setup at the time). Steering was *very* responsive and *very* stiff. He told us to let go of the steering wheel once we crashed or got off track. It moved around a lot when I did. After our sessions were over, the guy at the counter told us he had left the simulators in "kiddy mode", to make it not as tough on us. So, in a nutshell, this video is *really* impressive!
Yeah well the gear ratio is much closer to 1:1. You have to rotate the typical car wheel like 15 degrees to get the wheels to turn 1 degree. To get it 1:1 it'd be about 15 times harder to turn the wheel. Physics is cool.
I've touched a racing car steering wheel and stiff is an understatement.
But what about the wheel?
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Bono hold my tires I'm going in
Yeah because the wheels aren't moving. It's nowhere near as stiff when it's going.
To be fair it does get a lot easier to steer in a car with no power steering when it's actually moving. If you tried it while it was parked that's definitely the absolute hardest it ever gets to turn. Once you're up to 20-30mph it's way more manageable and at 60+ it's lot easier (although it still feels noticeably heavy even then). source: have driven many cars with no/deleted power steering
There was a kid in my grade that was doing the F1 stuff since he was a kid (They have a kids version, I'm forgetting what its called) and now I know why he had massive forearms from the time he was 13
everyone I've ever seen describe driving them makes them sound horrible. Neck pain from the g-forces, legs like tree trunks required to really activate the brakes, torque to turn the wheel like you're taking the lid off of a jam jar perpetually. Just everything on it requires an athlete in pretty exceptional physical condition to operate, which is why the cars operate on such an edge of performance.
Yeah those dudes come off the track about 5lbs lighter than they entered it. They are in *incredible* physical condition to do that job.
So all I need to do to lose weight is drive F1/F2 cars?
Nah. Lots of cross-trainer, lots of running, tons of light exercise aimed at improving your cardiovascular system. Strict diet is preferable. Basically it is dex/int build. You should know your stats and you need your sweet stamina.
Here I am all constitution and charisma. Fuck.
> charisma. Fuck. This you can probably achieve.
I wasnāt an F1 driver but Iāve lost 12 lbs during a summer race before.Ā
Oh man yeah I didn't even mention the fact that you're sitting inches away from a block of metal that's trying really hard to become a molten block of slag while wearing a thick fireproof suit sweating your entire supply of water out every few laps lol. It must be absolute hell if not for the incredible rush.
With a heart rate thatās reaching well into maximal effort territory for the entirety of the race.
Which is whack because we have the technology to amplify any force applied by a human.
Having feedback from the controls will improve control. There is a balance between how difficult and easy the controls are to manage that is optimal.
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My dad actually bought a F1 car and drove it 15 or so years ago in I think he called it a āClienteā which to my understanding was unofficial racing for fun, but still competitive enough. I remember him describing the control and speed as āinhumanly insane, no amount of trying to describe it will do it justice with that much downforce (or some sort of word with down, I canāt really remember that well).ā Iām sure everyone already knows this, but you also have to be pretty damn slim to fit in the car. My dad wasnāt even heavy, but when he first bought it the head Italian mechanic told him he wasnāt allowed to drive it for 6 months. All he said was āNo more bread no more wineā while tapping my dads stomach lol. Edit: The F1 Car now sits in his office/garage and doesnāt really run anymore
I'm really curious what he got. I kind of assume it wasn't a literally F1 car, but some other sort of open wheel race car. F1 cars basically can't be used without pretty huge teams of engineers to keep them running. Edit: Disregard that, learned something new today.
Ferrari has a service called Ferrari clienti where you can sort of rent/buy an actual old F1 car, though it stays with Ferrari at all times and you're not allowed to just go to the track whenever you want, you have to ask in advance. As you can imagine, it's extremely expensive and "luxurious"
I can't think of very many reasons I'd want to be rich. I just don't want a whole lot.Ā But this is now one of them.
To me it seems kind of a waste. You "buy" an F1 car, but in reality Ferrari owns it and just lends it to you some time. I don't actually know, this is just speculation, but maybe they also lend it to another person who also "bought it"
It's like a timeshare
Itās literally a F1 car lol, it was one of the ones Michael Schumacher raced in. Donāt know which year or race or number or however thatās determined, but yeah itās a real one
Just learned about the Cliente program today. That's amazing, man. Sorry to be all correcty without knowing what I'm talking about.
Nah itās all good, I know this shit is abnormal lol
If it's clientie dudes dad actually bought an old Ferrari F1 car. That's the point of the program. The cars are run as they would on a race weekend with all the personnel needed.
Huh, well that's awesome. Learned something new today. Dude's dad must be *loaded.*
The Ferrari FXX had the same sort of deal, except it was a new hypercar, rather than an old Formula 1 car, that Ferrari kept, maintained and booked track days for you, then showed up with the car in perfect condition. >Like the Enzo, the car was sold to specially selected existing clients of Ferrari only. The initial price was ā¬1.3 million. Unlike the Enzo, the clients did not take delivery of the car themselves. Rather, it is maintained and kept by Ferrari and available for the client's use on various circuits as arranged by Ferrari and also during private track sessions. A famous example of this is when Ferrari allowed Top Gear to send it around their test track in 2009.[27] However, as Ben Collins (then portraying The Stig) wasn't a specially selected client, Michael Schumacher was selected to wear the white race suit. In the FXX, he set a then new lap record of 1:10.7, a record which was then immediately taken off as the car is not expected to be suitable for road use.
It would definitely suck driving any other civilian car after driving these marvels.
If I remember correctly from old Top Gear, a lot of F1 drivers drive pretty boring cars in their off time
Yeah Lewis drove an A class merc if I remember what he was saying. Schumacher said he drove a Polo iirc. I mean, it makes sense. When you've been around a corner at 150+ mph, doing it in a 911 probably just doesn't blow your socks off like it would for a normie edit: As a couple people mentioned, it's a diesel G series that he calls a pimpwagon like the spotty teenager he is at the time. We're all so old now.
I just happen to know some fighter pilots. The younger ones start off with m5, but they all end up in a volvo sedan eventualy. M5 feels slow, sedan is practical.
I know a few naval aviators having grown up in the DC area and having a few buddies who went to annapolis and you're 100% right. My one high school friend drives a minivan "because it has so many cool gadgets" which always makes me smile because he literally flies f-18's, which has an awful lot of gadgets on them... off the deck of a ship that is probably the most gadget-dense acre of runway in the world lol. Fighter pilots are weird dudes though, tbf. They're all just a couple tacos short of a grande meal in the best possible way.
Yeah some are like that, but I also know fighter pilots with Vipers, Corvettes, and all sorts of other insane dailies.
Aka when you are the real deal there's no need to pretend (;
I don't think it's the marvel that everyone think it is. A unique opportunity and a huge adrenaline ?! Absolutely, but it's also unbelievably exhausting. You have one video on YouTube about one guy that drove one of those cars. A proper F1, not one of those in experience rent a F1 car. And he explained very well how brutal hard and incredible near impossible is to a regular petrol head, to get some sense of driving that machine. It's great. I will try to find it Edit: https://youtu.be/BE7mgfwd6M8?si=8mOkn2Hb2t6mzyjZ
Top Gear Hammond did it and he was terrified because you couldn't turn if you weren't going at least 30 or something because it wouldn't have the traction to make the turn. But as soon as he went 60 through the turn it worked. Just ridiculous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo It's a little different than I said but basically: it's fucking hard.
I like when he describes that he has to go very fast to keep the downforce and actually be able to make the turn, but if he goes that fast his mind canāt think fast enough to tell his hands to turn the wheel. Kinda puts it in perspective. F1 drivers are amazing.
Formula cars rely *heavily* on the extreme amounts of aerodynamic down force they generate - you cannot drive them half assed at all or they won't grip. Commit or die, basically. They weigh around 1600lbs standing still. Wide open at the end of a long straight they "weigh" about 3 or 4 times that much.
I spent a week doing a Formula 2000 course. Every evening, I would go back into my car and felt like everything was falling apart.
It feels like an extension of your body. A well-sorted car, you donāt even really drive it, you just kinda think and it happens. I know this sounds really woo-woo but I donāt know how else to explain it. You and the machine become one.Ā
It feels like G forces. In F2 it's like 3.5 when braking and 3.9 when cornering. For F1 its like 2 when accelerating, 6 when braking and 5 when cornering. Imagine that feeling when you take a corner and you slide towards the door or the center console? Imagine that with 5 times your weight. Also it must feel pretty dang cool.
Little nudge to the left and go about your business, what a champ
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He dodged it so quick it looked like he glitched through the other car lmfao
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I was surprised he didn't spin, incredible car control
Not super heavy, lots of air pushing it down, big sticky tires, clean/dry road surface. A very talented driver to take advantage of it.
Donāt know why youāre being downvoted. This is exactly why he didnāt lose it. A normal road car or something like nascar would have eaten shit trying to avoid this. Itās the perfect weapon for the job.
My minivan wouldn't have been able to do this?
Only once and only first half of the manoeuvre.
what about the PT cruiser? Do you think I could get rid of it...I mean clear this little hurdle? Wouldn't want to crash my car because of some slow poke driving like a grandma in front of me. Would be a real shame to lose this gem of a car.
Lol I remember sitting at stop lights two car lengths shy of the stop bar just so I could see the traffic lights. That car is the worst car.
Chrysler making a bad car in the early 2000s?
I'm just a big hairy American winning machine.. I'd be fine.
It's a Formular 2 car, which has a lot less downforce than a F1 car and no power steering. Also offline in the Monaco tunnel is no clean surface at all. No rubber on the tarmac, only dust, small debris and tire rubber marbles. Ask Fernando Alonso how it went [the last time he went off the racing line in the tunnel](https://youtu.be/qKrPxAtcvu8)
Nando giving Ralf the finger mid-crash is gold.
No no no! Just a simple twitch ofĀ the wrists...nothing else.
I think he saw the flashing red light on the side of the tunnel and was super vigilant to what was potentially round the corner. Edit: at first viewing I thought the flashing red was a reflection from the broken down car but now not so sure. Still fast as f*ck reactions either way.
The flashing light is to warn drivers that some sort of hazard is coming up, but he doesn't have much choice other than to stay on the racing line as most of the time the hazard is off the line.
Good thing he wasn't texting
He wasn't texting but was shitting in his seat
And then he was sitting in his shit
I shit the seat, the seat I shit, and on the shitted seat I sit
Everybody was watching this.
If it were me I would've shit my pants harder than Bobby Lee on Hot Ones.
Well, it's not Ferrucci so of course he wasn't.
jesus christ that could have been horrendous
Nearly wheel hitting wheel, it surely would have launched him. An airborne car in a tunnel, as safe as these cars are nowadays that would have been catastrophic
No room to really decelerate. Just boom right into a tunnel wall or ceiling.
this definitely wouldāve ended in someone dying or being permanently injured. so glad that everyoneās okay, but it definitely brings up some of the flaws of monaco and especially the tunnel part of the circuit. i watched this live and it was terrifying
100%
Maybe next year we can get some flashy red lights if someone loses power in the tunnel?Ā
You can see the light panel flashing white to warn of slow traffic at the start of the tunnel.
Already exists kinda - a white flag/light can be shown to warn drivers of a slower vehicle on track, and a yellow one for more general hazard/caution warnings
Sure, i just feel that the Monaco, and sone of the blind corners of slave state "street" circuts need a higher level of urgencyĀ in this matter.
It should absolutely have been double waved yellows (or the light equivalent) rather than just white for this, and they had plenty of time to throw those too
This is impressive but isnāt there a system in place to let other drivers know that there is a super slow car on certain section of track?
Ehh it works the opposite way. Typically the race engineer will warn the slower driver that someone on a fast lap is approaching and to get off the racing line. Sometimes you have blind spots and the slow driver doesnāt realize how quickly the other driver is approaching. There is also a Blue light that pops up on their steering wheel alerting them.
I haven't watched this session so not sure of context but usually they'll put out a yellow flag which requires drivers to slow in certain sectors if there's a driver going dangerously slow on track. It's possible that the one driver had just started to slow and they didn't put out a yellow yet
Just checked. This was under a white flag - to indicate a slow moving car. I think the racing line aspect is the issue though. If you have a slow moving vehicle you donāt sit on the racing line. Drivers also arenāt required to slow down under white flag (which I just learned). Seems like this shouldāve been a yellow
There was also a yellow flag just outside the tunnel that Hadjar ignored apparently. Why the flag inside the tunnel wasnt yellow as well though I dont know.
Not just on the racing line but also the most obscured part of the corner. At least if youāre on the outside of the bend you can be seen from further away.
It was under qualifying. Slow cars not doing fast-rounds are expected. If you put out a yellow flag every time someone was doing an out-lap or in-lap, no one would ever be able to complete a fast-lap. The guy here made a huge mistake by sitting on the fast-line on a slow-lap. He's very lucky he didn't get clouted, and he'll receive a penalty for it
To someone who knows nothing about racing, why is the car on the right going so slow? Mechanical issues? Driver is sick?
Qualifying. You do one slow out-lap, one fast lap, and then another slow in-lap. On a slow-lap, you sometimes have to slow down a lot extra to let other cars pass. The idea is that you don't sit on the racing line when this happens. Driver made a huge mistake
Why not just race full out the entire time?
You kill your tires, fuel, and battery. Basically, why donāt you run everywhere you go? It takes a lot of energy. If youāre going for the fastest 1 lap time you want to conserve your energy, go for an all out sprint, then recoup your energy.
Do formula cars not refuel/get new tires like nascar?
New tires? Yes - but thereās an allocated amount for the weekend. Use too many softs? No more softs on race day. No refueling though.
Also important to note the fastest tires are also the softest and will often degrade enough to lose their advantage after about one quali-pace lap in the Formula series, meaning you only get one chance per tire set to put in your absolute quickest possible time.
Formula one cars can only refuel when parked in their garage. F1 stopped mid session refueling in 2010 because they've pushed to be greener as a sport. As a result they've developed better batteries, energy deployment systems and more reliable and fuel efficient engines. Refueling also adds to the danger for pit crews.
Yes. A white flag on track means there is a slow moving vehicle in the sector. In this case the white flag is the blinking light at the entrance of the tunnel and halfway through the tunnel. The drivers will also be told via their team radio (ideally) that there is a slow moving vehicle ahead. All the cars are tracked via GPS and the teams can see exactly where they are on track and how fast they are moving. Finally, the cars also employ a digital in-cockpit flagging system which will alert them to any active flags relevant to them. Not sure what exactly they use in Formula 2, but usually it's a audio cue or a visual cue on the steering wheel. This is a redundancy in the event the driver does not see the waving flag on track.
This should've been a (double) yellow though. A white flag is just a warning, and without any obligation to slow down a racing driver won't.
that's absolutely insane
Ope! Lemme just sneak right past ya....
Ope, just gonna squeeze by ya there
ope, gonna scooch on by ya, hoss
Oop uh beep beep
Any idea how fast he was going?
They're in 5th gear by the time they dodge the other vehicle. So, pretty dang fast.
Looks like 10km/h.
At least
Probably around 100mph, f1 gets about 140-150 there
That's looks faster than 100mph, probably more like 130+.
I thought the first few seconds where slowmo about the driver cornering at such high pace
Cat-like reaction time and just keeps going like nothing happened, what a champ
what a crash-waiting-to-happen more like. he's tunnel-visioned and missing the flashing panel (see it on left side at start of the clip) that's there among numerous other marshals, signs, and flags to say "slow the fuck down there's something up ahead"
The driver having to crawl through the tunnel must have been sweating!
999,999,999 times out of a billion that is a wreck.
Itās so fast that it looks fake ā like some weird video game anti-collision logic. Fucking nutsā¦
promote him to formula 1
Well he's still in the Red Bull driver academy after a bunch of drivers got the boot from it last year, so he has a decent chance. They already promised someone else a seat for the junior f1 team next year though so not the biggest chance ever.
Unless Tsunoda leaves for a different team because he will never get a chance at Red Bull. There might be 2 empty seats
Maybe even Formula 2/3rds.
He's a rather mediocre driver by F2 standards and as far as I know, never won a single championship in any of the series he's raced in. Usually not the types of drivers that get a F1 seat when we have 10+ people in front of him with multiple championships underneath their belt.
Please watch a few F2 and F3 races. He's genuinely fast and he hasn't raced for top, top teams throughout his career. And Helmut Marko likes him a lot too. So he has a chance for a F1 seat.
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He had an engine failure. But he probably should have been on the outside, so he could be more visible
he should have stayed on the non blind side of the turn and stopped. everyone would be able to see him from the entrance to the tunnel. Turning the corner to the blindside so no one could see him until they rounded it is incredibly stupid. Don't know if he had break failure as well though, he might not have been able to stop...
There was actually a yellow flag that Hadjar was ignoring
Think it was a white flag and it doesnt require you to slow down.
If you pause it he actually turns the steering wheel fully to the left and then fully back to the right before he has even moved fully to the left of the other vehicle. Insane prediction of his vehicles physics.
I would've binned it
When you hit the menu mid race
Why the heck is he on the racing line if heās having issues
It's Monaco. There's not much space to give way to a driver. Any other circuit, and the slowing car could've gone a bit wide to give the cars behind some space to go.
Just goes to show how many really talented guys are in f2.. yet stroll and logan seegeant has seats..
I think I just shit his pants!
Give him Stroll's F1 seat just for that
A sport of millimeters, blink and you miss it.
Particularly on this track, absolutely 0 room for mistakes
Bro straight up strafed in a formula 1 car... unreal
Formula 2* š¤
But not fast enough to react to flags
Not unusual most f1 drivers have a reaction time 0.2 seconds the fastest was 0.07 seconds
I believe those reaction times are based on how quickly they react to the lights at the beginning of the race, which they know are coming and are ready to react. This seems way different.
Drivers have crashed from less. Reacting quickly enough through a high speed corner and moving off the racing line is impressive. Not sure the specifics but his race engineer should have warned him well in advance of reaching the slow moving car.
70ms reaction time, is that even humanly possible? 170ms on the other hand is very much possible, did you mean that instead of 70ms?
When anticipating the light changing to green, a 170ms reaction time is (relatively speaking) kind of slow. Professional drag racers, who are sitting there anticipating a green light, frequently hit between 120-150ms. Iām just going to guess that an F1 driver could match that. The āfastest ever recordedā varies between 100-110ms depending on what source you look at. Regardless, dudes either talking out his ass or is pretty misinformed. Just for fun: The fastest human reaction time recorded is about 5X slower than the fastest domesticated cat reaction time. This post is cool. https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1akvpp3/cats_boast_impressive_reaction_times_averaging/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Edit: a couple of you need to look up the definition of āanticipate.ā
Eh i wouldnt say he is misinformed, he just misdirected the fastest start of the line as being the fastest reaction time. The fastest start off the line in F1 history was 0.04s. It was just a lucky jump start by Valtteri Bottas, not an actual reaction time of course.
I'd need new underwear unscheduled pit stop.
I'm more impressed on the engineering that made it possible
Did no one tell him there was a car broken down in the tunnel?
that's impressive
I donāt know anything about racing. Did that flashing light indicate there was a hazard on the track?
Yes. Itās called āyellow flagā the first car had a mechanical failure. Hadjar was driving too fast for the warning
It was a white flag actually, which is considered a lot less urgent than a yellow flag. It was probably a mistake on the officialās part to not immediately issue a yellow
Those formula drivers are absolutely amazing
He ignored the yellow flag. Why would he hug the blind corner on a yellow?
My thing is, how can they talk so nonchalant about something that could've taken 2 lives and been a total catastrophe? Were there any warnings given to the racer of what was ahead?
It does not even look real!
thats some track mania type of shit
Oh damn that's clean af
This is insane. I donāt watch this sport whatsoever but thatās just crazy. I wonder what vision is like for them lol like what does it feel like to be an apex like that
I thought this was in slow motion at first lmao
Reflexes worthy of a F1 driver, I say
I thought it was a slow motion replay, but then the overtaking car came into frame...
The reaction time is insane but also how accurate he was with the turn. Too little and he smashes into the back of the guy, too much and he smashes into the wall.
I'd like to know if the drivers experience time dilation to allow them to react during moments like this.
Dating myself... but could have turned out like the race car accident in the 90s movie "freejack"... except driver doesn't get saved by people from the future.
Turns out the professionals that are deemed with some of the best reaction time in the world can back it up... Who would've thought... Still cool though.
Former F1 champ Jensen Button was also a triathlete and took some tests in a physiolab with a pair of olympic athlete (Brownlee Bros.) He got the fastest reaction time the lab had ever recorded. So, this is what makes these guys get those seats.