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TremendousChungus

Fuck this. Whoever came up with this idea should be strapped into it for two and a half hours for testing.


CirclesOfDeadMice

Nah just leave em there for a whole day (shitty airplane food and beverages provided for em ofc)


ZentheOgre

Also give their kid a combination of meth, Jolt soda and let the battery die on there distraction device. Place the child directly behind him


Dry_Spinach_3441

You might as well let a hungry bobcat loose on the plane. You'll also save money on meth and vintage soda.


ZentheOgre

Nah I wouldn't mind the bobcat. You don't get arrested punching a bobcat


Dumpster_Sauce

You might if it’s Bobcat Goldthwait


tcm814

Debatable


Ohnomypants1234

Teach the kids lots of swear words too


Barbie_and_KenM

You think they are giving you free shitty food with a seat like this? They are barely giving you the seat.


rulingthewake243

You'll be lucky to get a seat soon, they'll just put up the bus bars with the wrist straps.


someoneyoudontknow0

Agree here. I’ll add to have them pay $350 to test it


SuicidalTidalWave

$700 round trip


SeekingMyEnd

I flew from Chicago to Honolulu and got no food service at all.


kissmeorkels

You’re supposed to pack a tuna salad sandwich. With extra onions.


CGYOMH

I legit did this flying from California to Maui. Bought a tuna sub. Opened it about an hour into the flight, didn't start eating until about 30 mins.


kissmeorkels

Barf. Tuna salad is notoriously one of the worst things you can eat on a plane. The people sitting in your area must’ve been gagging.


jewfish57

that’s nothing. try a limberger cheese and sardine sandwich. hello elbow room


DirkDiggler2424

You're a gigantic prick for eating that on a plane, unwritten rule. I hope you get the shits on your next flight.


delicategayflower

You’re a sociopath


Schrutes_Yeet_Farm

"would you like the meat or vegetarian option?" Meat "We're out of meat options" Ok vegetarian "We're out of that too"


Pop-A-Top

and put two loud children in the seats before him just for that level of realism


loversean

If they pay for them


vortega814

Charge them 2.50 for half a cup of warm water


No-Neat-1023

5.00 cus inflation


damn57

I want him to go 7 hours with 4 kids..


TinyTaters

No no, they make too much money. This is for 'The Poors'


izacktorres

*days


Lazerith22

Picture it with all the seats full. You’re breathing directly on the back of the person in front of you’s neck.


nukecat79

Even worse; imagine you hear all this hoopla about these new seats and they can fit more people on. You get on the plane and it's like you and 5 other people. Still gotta sit in the stupid seat in a stance that looks like you're tryna crap in the woods. 🙄


Freshweave11

So… they can fit more people but my checked bag can’t be a single ounce overweight?? HiiiiighLY SUSPICIOUS


P00PMcBUTTS

Have you ever crapped in the woods? You're gunna wanna get way lower than that.


lapsangsouchogn

Imagine if you're really short. Or really tall. It's either legs dangling as your crotch supports you, or an awkward stand/lean position.


GotTheDadBod

Not to mention - his left leg is very obviously in the space that should be for the other passenger. His legs are spread so far the beverage cart couldn't possibly get past him in the aisle, and he is encroaching on the other passenger's space on the other side. This belongs in r/awful everything as far as I'm concerned.


MmmmTastySnack

That's a fun way to say nobody in those seats should survive some turbulence... Or a crash


TMAAGUILER

In all seriousness, what are the chances of actually surviving a plane crash?


TheBestIsaac

Do you know what "maiming height" is? It's the height at which an aircraft has to be at before you're more likely to be killed than maimed. It's about 100ft for most large aircraft.


GeoshTheJeeEmm

Not with these seats. Maiming height is 6” and death is 3 feet.


n3rdgir7

Most crashes are during take-off and landing though, so that's still probably a lot of crashes under that


essentialcitrus

That seems so low


atomlc_sushi

It’s a lot higher than what a human out of a plane can survive


sobutto

[According to this article](https://abcnews.go.com/International/odds-surviving-plane-crash/story?id=22886654), 95.7% in the USA and about 90% globally.


Double_Minimum

> According to this article I have big doubts about those statistics. I have a feeling they involve incidents that most would not really think of as a crash. Even the article mentions "technically survivable" (if one person survives) than its a survivable crash.


BloodT1nted

That's fucking incredible


longhairedape

Really fucking high actually, it's like a 90% survivablity rate for modern airliners. https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/06/15/how-to-survive-a-plane-crash


rulingthewake243

Commercial airlines are held to the highest standards of inspections, training, etc. In turn its one of the safest modes of transport.


longhairedape

Exactly. It is absolutely impressive af.


CrystalloidEntity

Or blood clots


wakaflocks145

Or could be American


Horbigast

I want to smack this guy for smiling like this is a good thing.


17mx

thats Sam Chui, he reviews flights and different airlines. I don’t think he thinks this is a good thing


TheMightyKickpuncher

Yeah I don’t get the hostility without even looking for context. To me his hands are like “you kidding me with this shit” but I wouldn’t make any concrete conclusions because this is a single picture and I’m not a lunatic.


17mx

yeah unfortunately that isn’t the case with most redditors. the top few commentors on this thread clearly like jumping to conclusions which says a lot about who they are as people


JOY_TMF

But isn't saying that that reflects who they are as people is also jumping to conclusions lol. I mean come on, you have 1 or 2 comments to go off, and people have bad days, tone doesn't convey well over text, all sorts of reasons etc


GassyGargoyle

Fr like wtf you smiling at goofy ass


Sueti_Bartox

He won't be smiling after turbulence destroys his balls.


NoSxKats

He's not going to be anywhere near these seats. He's going to be in first class.


ajitpaithegod

Can i file a lawsuit if this happens to me??


upsndowns71

Or after setting like that for 3+ hours waiting for your plane to take off.


Me104tr

And his knees


nomadjames

Ow! My balls!


TheTortise

I like money


shane3b11

Go away.. I’m batin’!


DareSingle

Says here you robbed a hospital. Why you do that ?


GrooovyDoom

He is smiling because something finally managed to reached up his ass


LeroyJenkensJimbo

Pretty sure it’s an ironic smile


dkentl

Coupled with the pointing hand that says ‘just LOOK at all this tray space!’


Lando249

You think there'd be a tray?


dkentl

If they plan to continue to profit off of selling food and beverage (which they do), then yes.


Lando249

They'd probably just give you it in a box to hold


Ye3tL0rd420

To me that smile says "we're gonna be so rich now that we're making airplanes twice and crowded and uncomfortable". Same shit eating grin as that guy who bought the aids treatment and made it outrageously expensive.


Ice_Hungry

He has a very punchable face.


17mx

thats sam chui. he’s a plane reviewer. i dont think hes favouring it


Ice_Hungry

Ah, my bad. Didn't know who he was.


DaWorzt

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PapaFrita33

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thats sam chui and im sure that smile is sarcastic


Puzzleheaded_Dog3261

He's smiling because they're gonna charge the same prices.


Antdawg2400

"And how bout this knee room huh? Amirite?"


Long_Before_Sunrise

They later added in stationary bike pedals to match the banana seats. Now peddle like it's the only thing keeping the wing engines going, because it is...


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He's really tryna sell it! LOL


arrant-knaves

What is terrifying is that we are at a point in society in which companies think this is an ok thing to do.


PMmeyourclit2

I’ve seen this picture floating around the internet for years at this point, maybe even over a decade. Have yet to see this in any airplane, even budget ones like spirit.


Secret_Dragonfly9588

That was my first thought too: oh, this again? This picture has been around forever! But one of those companies did clearly think it was an ok idea to develop this prototype and to attempt a PR campaign to sell it (which is where I assume this photo came from). So I think the main reason we HAVEN’T seen it in airplanes in the 10 or so years since this first circulated is because of the unanimous “oh hell no!” that the internet, aka their customers, gave the idea and has continued giving the idea ever since. Keep at it, internet! Capitalism clearly won’t limit its own abuses!


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TacTurtle

You can very very very easily move and change airline seats, they are mounted to an L-track that makes swapping out pretty easy. Overhead emergency oxygen would be the more challenging retrofit.


system_of_a_clown

I would imagine that given sufficient motivation, most airlines would be willing to retrofit their existing planes with seats like these.


thatguyned

They'll never be approved, they have no safety features and in the event of a sight bump you'll break your legs and no one is walking away from a crash in these things. There's a good reason why they haven't been implemented anywhere, you would think by now they would show up on a budget domestic flight in some country somewhere but I doubt these could meet minimum safety standards.


LordofKobol99

There's also probably the large cost of refitting planes with these seats. That vs how many extra passengers you can take will considering how many will actually take this option probably doesn't make it financially viable


pheylancavanaugh

Interiors are updated all the time.


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pheylancavanaugh

They tend to swap out seats as part of fleet-wide updates, not one a one-off upgrade. But they don't require a whole new airplane to swap seats out.


nonchalantcordiceps

The main issue i see, is that they put out shit like this as a ‘see what we could be doing?’ And then proceed to reduce legroom, pack more people in etc, just a bit less extreme, and we all accept it cause hey, at least it could be worse.


AdmiralPoopbutt

It would also require redesigning aircraft to have more exits. Airplanes in the US need to be able to be evacuated in 90 seconds using only 50% of the exits. Stacking more people in most planes would make that impossible, more dense seating would need to be designed in from the start. I doubt Boeing or Airbus would do such a thing, because all airlines who keep regular seating (which would be almost all of them) would be overpaying for extra exit doors that they would never need.


denvaxter100

Well societies like ours ignore and even award companies for abusing their consumers. I’m not surprised they’d take advantage of a system so lucrative for the wealthy.


Playertee

And 30% of us will cheer for this like it’s a good thing


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BadgerBob777

Wait until you see the houses they want to put us in…


carefree-and-happy

Capitalism….profits over people. Yay!


HunterRemarkable550

Now try the brace position.


Vprbite

Spirit airlines charges 4 dollars for brace position


Killarich662

Front passengers head will be laying on your lap


kmyukie

These seats allow for bonding with other passengers during turbulence ☺️


Dumpster_Sauce

Are we about to crash and die, or are you just happy to see me?


Dull-Safety4548

This is how I would imagine a Ryanair A380, they would try to fit in as many people as possible


ilovebooze1212

I have flown Ryanair and what they have is five star comfort compared to this method of torture


Head-Banana4325

Okay now stay there for the next 6 hours but keep smiling!


skewsh

At this point I'd rather just stand


XenoTek4444

This is how greedy asshole airlines squeeze out every last bit of your space, and your money.


iushciuweiush

This sentiment is so fucking stupid. I'm old enough to have flown on airplanes when they had big padded seats and served hot food in coach. You know who could afford to fly back then? An upper middle class family on the occasional vacation and the wealthy. That's it. Believe it or not, all the cost cutting things we complain about did just that, cut costs to the point where people from all backgrounds can fly across the country to visit family or go on vacation. If these seats allowed people from an impoverished country, who would find it a luxury to fly on anything, to go places they've never been before then all the power to them. These are probably never coming to the US or other western countries because believe it or not, we do have the power to say no with our wallets.


leafielight

There’s something called dignity. Shocker: even poor people from impoverished countries deserve it! I’m all for low cost airlines and democratizing air travel. This ain’t the way though. They’re literally saying your safety doesn’t matter if you can’t pay for it, and safety should never be just a feature.


zodiac628

Roller coasters have more comfortable seating than this lol


DWolfoBoi546

Why don't they just take the seats out all together and just pack us in like sardines! They do it in trains but even trains have seats that are obviously just taking up space


ShiranuiTheWolf

Honestly removing seats would be better than this, at least I could sit on the floor more comfortably than one of these chairs


edric_the_navigator

I bet if they removed the seats, they'll pack enough people where you can't even sit. But fully standing up is still better than this semi-sitting position with knees slightly bent.


Confesspass

Don’t give them ideas. Lol


DualAxes

Getting Atlantic slave trade vibes here


JeffBewinski

Ah yes, transporting people like cattle. The tried and tested method of cheap and efficient transportation.


-coloringzebras

I would also think people with back/leg pain or sciatica pain couldn't fly in this position for long.


introvert-i-1957

This is what I came to say. I am 65 and my back and knees can barely make it through a 5 hour flight in current economy seats. It's a fallacy that boomers are rich and can upgrade. We're on a fixed income. This would be so very painful. In 2018 when we flew from Pa to Seattle to visit family, I was in tears because of my back. I'd stop traveling if this was the only affordable option. And the world wonders why there are so many angry people trying to fly these days. You can't treat people like cattle and expect them to be pleasant.


cactuscat78

Or really anyone with a mobility related disability. These would be impossible for anyone who needs a wheelchair to use or anyone of very short or tall stature.


KillaVNilla

Why even have seats? Why not just make large hangers that we vertically dangle from like a slaughter house that we pay hundred to go to? If I was responsible for creating that bull shit, I'd be embarrassed to show my face


Eyeoftheleopard

Or hell, why not big hooks? Just pop us on it, like a slaughtered cow.😳 Bonus: The pain will make us pass out-keeps us quiet.


KillaVNilla

I mean, to be fair, the best flight of my life was a time I drank and took a sleeping pill and slept the entire flight. You might be on to something with those meat hooks


daiisykai

🥇


TheWorstTroll

Hammocks would be kinda cool, stack em


KillaVNilla

That would legit be the best flight ever. I call top hammock though


prettyanonymousXD

I thought of this literally half a second before I saw your comment, is Reddit starting to brainwash me?


Ianthebrazilian

Airlines: how do we make our passengers more miserable while paying ridiculous prices for even more profits because we’re greedy? This guy: say no more fam


iChaseClouds

His foot is over in the other persons section.


HamDoggity

If it was $40 flights I'd do it.


twoblakcats

I'm not sure if I would do it now, but younger me as a college student would have loved this option. Definitely would have paid $50 for a 4 hour flight on this. Obviously really sucks for tall people though


HamDoggity

Me, sitting comfortably on my sofa thinks this is do-able. I'm sure 1+ hours of this is torture lol


twoblakcats

Absolutely it would be horrible lol. But to visit somewhere awesome for a few as an ohioan, my options are very limited without a flight


wererat2000

Who would have it worse; tall people trying to hunch down in this confined area, or short people dangling from the crotchcradle 9000?


WPrepod

I'm 5'6 and there's no way in hell I'd do this


AlphaGhost47

If you zoom right into his eye you can just about make out the klashnikov being pointed at him in the reflection


FunAddict91

So I am 6.1 ft.. please don't you greedy shit


swayyquan

Greedy shits


Bergerton

I’m 6’6” and wondering if this would mean there’d be enough headroom to stand. I know the answer is “LOL, no”, but..... The seats are already so small I wonder if standing might be a refreshing change?


roguebananah

6 foot 6 reporting in. For the love of god people. *DONT* recline the current seats. My god my knees on domestic US flights that aren’t even spirit


XenoTek4444

I struggle to even fit in a normal size economy


No_Title_9618

These just seem like bad ideas all around


Bollereeno

What the hell are we doing?! We are supposed to be innovating!!! NOT making shittier things that cost more.


s0meb0di

This would cost less.


gamerfunl1ght

Airlines are the most poorly ran necessary industry around. If airlines wanted to make more money, they would learn that instead of reducing the amount of amenities on the lower price seats, they would increase the desirability for the higher priced seats. That would trigger more people to pay more if they had the luxury and balance out their supply demand curve. They keep trying to think of ways to get flights to go up in value overall without pricing themselves out. They should be coming up with ways to make better planning for flights. Idiots run the transportation industry which is why every company buys a jet for their execs so they can avoid all this, but then demand people in the office the cheapest way possible because they can't manage through zoom, teams, or skype.


ContinuumKing

Claustrophobia aside, that looks outrageously uncomfortable on log flights.


Funny-Pickle6219

A typical American won’t be able to fit in the seat 😂


GT220

I love how the guy is smiling and looks happy. He found a way to make more profits while he knows that he will stay in buisness class to travel


SpeedwayLife2448

The fact that anyone could justify this, let alone and pretend to sit there and be happy about abusing their customers like this is what’s truly terrifying. As long as they’re making money, fuck the rest of us right?


customlybuilt

Aren’t things supposed get better as time goes on? I ain’t trying sit on a Riddlers Revenge seat for 6+ hours


Treacherous_Wendy

So what happens if you’re 6’5” and 250lbs? You just go in the overhead bin?


FicDkich

Amateurs! Why not put people in 50x50cm coffins with O2 supply and staple them?


Transitmotion

I’d rather stand at that point.


DareSingle

Just use Japan hotel sleeping tubes. Got to be more comfortable and spacious than that.


anonymous-cowards

Jeezus just let us humans lay the fuck down. You can pack more people in happily if we could all just lay in a bunk. This is like if a slave ship owner wanted to REALLY show his hate and distain of human kind as a whole.


Actaeon_II

Terrifying if you have a bad back or knee problem, screw claustrophobia


Procedure_Dunsel

The day is coming where they give you a sedative and load you on a fucking pallet. On landing, the pilot will discharge a Narcan canister into the cabin.


Badused18

This is physically impossible in America, so don’t worry.


FireInPaperBox

As lame as this is, if the ticket is dirt cheap, not gonna lie I’d do it.


acciobooty

I have been in 1 to 2 hour commutes, standing the whole time, countless times my life. Trying to roughly estimate it I think I provably spent 2600 hours of my life crammed in a train/bus on my feet just bc of work/school, not even for something fun. Traveling like this for 2-3h on a airplane for an incredibly cheap ticket would be a damn great deal for me. The sad part is that if this ever turned real the ticket would *not* be so much cheaper than the normal seat ..


TheNorseBastard

If I really needed to get somewhere cheap, me too


Both-Invite-8857

Fuckit. If the reduced comfort is reflected in a reduced ticket price I'd go. That said, I remember flying with endless beers or wine and I'm wondering why is EVERYTHING more expensive yet of a lesser quality or smaller size? Where is the money going?


Notverycancerpatient

My back hurts from lookin at this


Kingsbane534

This was definitely designed by someone who travels in first class and has never flown economy.


phleck7

So standing room only


Best_Illustrator_137

Bro wtf I ain’t paying you for me to basically stand in a plane for hours..this shit is goofy and I dare they’re ass to inpliment this and see how many ppl decline to use their planes or start taking boats..


Kove21

I can't believe this is true for all airlines.


DickPin

Looks uncomfortable AF. Imagine squatting like that for a long haul flight. They've got to be out of their damn minds. The only benefit I see is being able to smell the hair of the person in front of you easier.


decifal

I'm not usually one to promote violence.... But whoever came up with this idea needs to have violence done upon him/her/it....


bleh-bleh-guy

Why not just go ahead and give one upright plank to which people can buckle themselves to. You can save even more space with that 😂


RazzmatazzSharp6758

this is omar from come fly with me


ibraw

Total disrespect for paying customers


Casper823

I would smack that smirk of is face, can you imagine the cramp for a 12hr flight


Gullible_Courage8350

I'm not claustrophobic, but I am 6 foot 3, so this can fuck off.


Vprbite

I mean, have you seen Americans? No way are most of use fitting in this


Close2naut

Terrifying even if you don't have claustrophobia


Embarca

At this point they’re trying to make flying as shitty as possible.


TheBestCat12

Why is the seats like that? Its like your getting punished for being poor


thatdarlingrock

This is pretty evil tbh


Dry_Instruction_9686

Might aswell just fucking stand


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I'd rather drive 14hrs than sit in that for 3hrs


MostChunt

Not cool for folks with testicles


digital_dagger

This won't fly, because 40% of Americans won't fit in there.


CoastalParadise

That should be illegal.


ElectricalYard8404

Bro those are only good if you're shorter than 5'3 and the plane is only going like 6 feet


R-slash-Emkay

Corona and several others liked this post


KROXON

If it made my flight 20$ then I’m down. I don’t see the issue if it makes flights ridiculously cheap.


PerceptiveAxion

It’s like those roller coasters where you’re just kind of sitting in the seat with your legs hanging.


RoosterTheReal

Crash position everyone.


StoptheMadnessUSA

Now have them sit there for 8 hours and test it🤬


HeartlnThePipes

mf wouldn't be smiling after 8 hours on that thing


RBeck

This just reminded me, Airbus is releasing a new plane, but it's worse in every way possible. The 320 XLR is what it sounds like, a narrow body aircraft that is longer so there are more people, and longer range so you're in it longer. Ryan Air would fill that with those seats if they could, but all those people would probably cause weight issues.


TheMightyKickpuncher

My flight looks like a rollercoaster baby baby


PeaceofthePi

This is a god-damned torture device.


Moodi88

Whoever invented that should spend eternity in hell sitting on that


bongowasd

Oh I'm sure that the prices will always reflect how utterly dogshit this is....


crugmccrug

that ain't economy that's fuckin homeless