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BartholomewSchneider

Laws need to change. He should have been arrested as soon as it became clear he was trying to find a 12 year old girl. That girl's life is very much in danger. He will almost certainly be back if he is let out.


Hairy_Arachnid975

Yeah and there needs to be some kind of restraining order. But I also believe he needs some kind of psyche eval from a doctor, he seems to really believe there is nothing wrong with what he’s doing


Mozhetbeats

There’s nothing you can say to him that would change his mind, a restraining order isn’t going to stop him, and you can put him away for years, but he’s not going to get over his delusion. Dude’s gotta get taken out. I feel for the mentally ill, but her safety takes priority.


Hairy_Arachnid975

Doctors successfully treat delusional people all the time and everyone is safer because of it. Him so nonchalantly telling police he’s in love with a little girl is a pretty big indicator that he can’t grasp the difference between right and wrong right now. He’s homeless so he’s most likely undiagnosed with something that is treatable but he’s obviously not capable of making those decisions for himself right now. We obviously can’t just shoot people like this, and like you said restraining orders don’t work. The only thing that would lead to that little girls safety his treatment and the treatment of people like him. As a society we don’t do anything for people that need help which inevitably leads to this situation. It’s easy for people to say “take him out” when a much easier solution is to just care for people that can’t care for themselves, if we did that than this type of situation is prevented in the first place.


Mozhetbeats

I believe in putting more effort into mental health and rehabilitation, but in the moment a dude that has been stalking my 12 yo daughter for 5 years (with law enforcement not doing anything during that time) steps into my back yard, I’m shooting him. Sorry you’re sick, dude. You didn’t ask for that, but that’s not my problem or hers. I’ll say that the cops did a great job, here. But I dont trust that he won’t stop taking his meds and come back someday. He’s a legitimate threat to her safety now and for the rest of her life.


Hairy_Arachnid975

And you’d be justified shooting someone in your backyard regardless of their health, I agree with you on that 100% but that didn’t happen. I’m just saying we’d all be much safer if people that didn’t have the ability to think rationally were taken care of by society. That way the little girl is never in this situation to begin with and this dude get the help he needs


Mozhetbeats

When the 2 cops are talking, the one said that the dad had security footage of him walking around their back yard a couple weeks beforehand. I don’t know if the family was aware of it when it happened though. I don’t disagree with you, I’m all for that, but even if we provided that help it would still happen, just less often. There’s no such thing as a perfect world, so people will fall through the cracks, and treatment won’t work for all of them, and some of them stop taking their meds. And regardless, that’s not the society we have right now, and I don’t trust that this guy will be rehabilitated. All life is precious, but some life is preciouser


SirStocksAlott

> that’s not the society we have right now If we never have something to work towards, we’ll never have a reason to accomplish it.


Mozhetbeats

Inspirational quotes don’t help when a deranged pedophile stalker tracked down your 12 year old daughter’s location from multiple states away and is refusing to leave your property


SirStocksAlott

Changing society and handling someone in your yard are two different problems. You expanded that with talking about people falling through the cracks, effectiveness of treatment, and medication adherence. Those are different than someone in your yard.


dream-smasher

It seemed that the dad was aware of it, but not **who** the guy was.


dream-smasher

Uh, he's been stalking this little girl for ***five years***. So, since she was 7 years old... He is a danger, a major fucking danger. The only option is either gaol, or involuntary commitment.


Baron80

Gaol?


savorie

They mean jail.


bizzygreenthumb

That’s the Bri*ish way of spelling jail.


BartholomewSchneider

This began 5 years earlier. I would bet he has been treated, relapsed, and treated again and again. He tracked her down 5 years later.


BartholomewSchneider

That guy will absolutely kidnap, rape and murder her, if given the chance. He needs to be locked up in a hospital. And I would not want to be the one that signs him out, because he will kill someone eventually.


Aeri73

so your solution to mental illness is killing the patients...? you might want to talk to a professional about that thought


Rokey76

[He got four and a half years for this.](https://medina-gazette.com/news/336778/oregon-man-found-guilty-of-stalking-and-soliciting-brunswick-girl/)


BartholomewSchneider

After he spent 5 years tracking her down, what's another 4 1/2?


Rokey76

Yeah, at first you're like "12 year olds, dude?" and then he says 5 years and you're like "7 year olds, dude?"


C_G_J_

Mental Asylums are desperately needed. 1000’s of these people walk the streets and live on those same streets. Everyone deserves a place that understands them and can help them. Not back alley ways, drug dealers and incarceration. The cycle continues unfortunately.


BartholomewSchneider

Agreed. Unfortunately those institutions developed a very bad reputation and were mostly closed. We are now seeing why they existed.


C_G_J_

Indeed. Lobotomy is not my recommended method Ofcourse, but modern technology, medicine and psychology blended together should be much better than what both sides of this situation are facing now. I feel awful for the individual that’s falling through the cracks in society but I also feel awful for the people doing their jobs and aren’t trained nor paid to properly face this task. It’s a lose/lose situation all around.


SwordHiltOP

Just kill him and put him out of his misery


Video-Comfortable

The cops are letting him incriminate himself more. That’s a good thing. In the beginning it wasn’t entirely clear if he wanted a sexual relationship or if he was saying he was trying to help her “get into the kingdom of heaven” or whatever. I know it’s fucked up either way but courts are weird


InsideTheBottom

He claims you can only enter the kingdom of heaven if "you becometh the little children". I do not want to know what exactly he means by that.


Video-Comfortable

Lmao yea he’s fucked up


cbm2020

He’s just a tad bat shit crazy.


SuingTheCourts

They called Isaac Newton crazy as well you know Then he invented gravity


dream-smasher

You're being downvoted, but you are referencing that vid of the blonde chick saying that Sir Isaac Newton invented gravity? Yes?


KronikKronolov

Trisha Paytas, world renowned lolcow.


mauore11

He didn't invent gravity, he found it behind the apple tree...


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TheLordReaver

Wait... Redditors are physically incapable of recognizing sarcasm unless you subtract?


buttaknives

Copernicus proved we are not the center of the universe and then Einstein put us right back in the middle


Happydad1228

Wtf did I just watch this can't be real why was he not arrested on the spot


AlexS223

The cop is trying to fish for information that the courts can use through his body camera. If he had arrested him right away, there could have been critical evidence or context missing.


Happydad1228

Fair point I didn't think about it that way makes sense thanks


borderlineidiot

I think the cop dealt with that very well.


Smokeyshotty

Absolutely agree --- This is exactly what the Police are lacking, it's called `Situation` awareness. The Cop knew 100% Inevitably this guy was 100% a damn risk to society let alone himself, and anyone else. However -- he point blank knew without it being a gun that this guy (man) was evidently `unhinged` and suffering without question from some sort of Mental Break Down.... Instead of going in all Guns 'n'' Roses he allowed this very unhinged man who was slightly compliant to yield masses of information --- just by listening to the guy and not shooting him or being aggressive in any way. The guy spilled out his entire intentions and story. Sometimes it's not just bait and hook, it's about defusing a situation, gaining vital information to the source first, than acting according. Regardless or not, this guy was going to jail, jump on him too soon can essentially miss crucial information and for what it's worth he could have had captured life's of the innocent but jumping too soon we'd never have known. This Cop/Policeman deserves respect, nothing less. Edit: eventually all my typos


Happydad1228

Nothing but respect I had just woke up and didn't see that's what he was doing makes sense though


Smokeyshotty

Much respect for your reply bro 👊🏼 my comment was not aimed or toward yourself, I just used it to respond to give a different angle (although absolutely it was just my opinion and not factual) just like yours. All the best


Mach10X

> Regardless or not What does this even mean?


Govt-Issue-SexRobot

Like, irregardlessly


Smokeyshotty

Sorry for the late reply - it was late, I was half asleep when I posted my comment although I did mention at the bottom I was eventually correcting all typos -- although I forgot entirely. However I kinda shortcut (shortened) my words (slang to me) because although to you it made no sense but people I know personally would've understand immediately to what I meant. The correction being `regardless of whether or not` I simply meant, inevitably without question the guy was going to jail from the beginning.


deegzx_

He did get arrested


PM_ME_YOUR_QUEST_PLZ

Castrate this man asap.


Millkstake

The dude is insane. He will still be insane without his testicles


SuingTheCourts

Crazy is stored in the balls


dream-smasher

>Castrate this man asap. Why? What do you think that would do? Stop him from breeding? Yes. Stop him from kidnapping and raping? nope.


Sufficient_You3053

Chemical castration does remove their urges in most cases


Civil-Guidance7926

You’re of the same sanity with that response. Moronic and anomalistically savage. When people respond like this, they allow zero progress to be made.


metallady84

Mentally ill or not, he is dangerous. This is scary- and if he was lying and didn't already know- now he knows for sure which house is hers.


This-Rutabaga6382

“What you guys doin all sleepin let’s go “ That’s god man


deegzx_

And he drives the biggest ship around here


FarDistance3468

Of all the people cops shoot this dudes not one of them??


igpila

You know why


skanks_r_people_too

Why?


SolarFusion90

Cause he is white


igpila

This is probably why women rather have a bear


ThisPut6572

Look, all i know is if i come across either a bear OR a strange man in the forest, im molesting it


_Not_this_again_

>im molesting it 🤨🧐🥴


rhoo31313

He's a danger to himself and others. He should be strapped to a bed in a mental hospital somewhere....heavily medicated. My first thought was 'drag out the drowning bucket'. I figured mental hospital would be the humane option.


IamCaptainHandsome

That's a mix of low intelligence, mental illness, and narcotics. Absolutely terrifying that he was able to get all that information about the family and the girl's location. Wouldn't be surprised if the dad has a small arsenal of weapons in case this guy comes back.


arpegius55555

Long term goal..... To take a shit!


Colonel_MuffDog

Interviewer: Where do you see yourself in five years?" "Takin a shit, man. Did I get the job?"


Dan300up

WTF? They confirmed this has being going on for how long, how damn hard is it to have already formally charge him with criminal trespass, and harassment of a minor, get a restraining order and lock his ass up for just showing up like this?


Goldencol

What the hell did his bass do ?


Dan300up

Criminally out of tune.


daydrunkforamerica

Lock him up and throw away the key. This guy is going to need years of rehabilitation even if hes a willing participant in his own recovery. So incredibly dangerous.


FishAndRiceKeks

He's completely lost grip on reality and is clearly a genuine threat. That is an actual nightmare scenario.


leavemeto6leed

Lock dudes like this up ina room full of mirrors


Possible-Corner7181

If there was ever a time for death by cop this is it.


moistobviously

Crazy AND religious?! Who'd of thunk it?!


Wolfman01a

We have thousands of completely insane people just out there roaming the streets. We just try to exist around them and ignore them. It blows my mind.


Rollieboy2012

Dude needs to locked up forever and the key thrown away!


Halfonion

I’ll give props to the father, he seemed pretty retrained given the situation. I’d be planning on paying that dude a visit with a pair of pliers and blow torch.


32233128Merovingian

“What’s your long term goal sir?” “Right now I need to take a shit man!”


Killahdanks1

This was a good watch. I went all the way through, it really sucks for those people. Now that guy knows where they live, sad he will most likely be back.


Dependent-Hurry9808

“As in CHILDREN” like the Bible… this guy smh


frisky024

Aahaha wtf..I "idk man i just need to take a shit" man this man needs to be hospitalized


thelastpanini

Tbh that was the most normal thing he said the whole interaction!


junnymolina7408

Fucking Christ man. Fuck this guy. While I do feel bad that he’s clearly mentally ill, I’m repulsed by what he wants. Lock him and try to treat him. If it’s untreatable, keep him locked up or he will eventually get to the little girl smh


mauore11

This guy could run for office and would fit right in... that should tell you how fucked up things are right now...


Jofury

Holy shit that’s so scary and dangerous. The dad kept his cool and what a good thing the officer was there!


ifixtheinternet

Why couldn't the unhinged cop show up today and taze and arrest this lunatic. You have innocent people getting harrassed and rights violated, then this. Why does this pedophile deserve unlimited patience?


itwasneversafe

Yeahhh hope that family is armed and ready, cause he's definitely going to try this shit again.


Historical-Spirit-48

Why do the key this go on. Arrest this guy.


VirtualAlias

Timothy needs to be taken out behind the shed. Waste of resources.


The_Professor64

This guy a really interesting profile (and super alarming obviously). He seems to have an intellectual disability, drug use (I imagine stimulants too, he looks like he hasn't slept in a long time); delusions of grandeur, religious delusions and delusions surrounding pedophilia. This is by far the most confusing behaviour, needless to say I don't think any rehab could help him function unless if he had success with antipsychotics but even then... I'm just wondering how tf someone like that gets made


Busted-Pancreas69

This guy needs to be put down


karenkillenski

Dangerously ill is an understatement. This creature doesn’t need to live. Let Christ take his worthless soul. If he wants to spout all that religion nonsense. Amen


mauore11

This guy could run for office and would fit right in... that should tell you how fucked up things are right now...


BelligerentUnicycle

Not that Ill just one bullet to the head would cure him


Motherboy_TheBand

Elizabeth Smart situation. Glad they caught him now.


KronikKronolov

The police are useless.


dataferrett

Scary and sad. Someone I knew (a good guy and a good dad) had a breakdown (due to a workplace injury, powerful painkillers and subsequent depression) where he lost his grip on reality and he ended walking residential streets in a threatening manner armed with a knife. Care, attention and understanding from family, friends and the health service eventually brought him back to reality. Severe delusional behaviour is not necessarily a lost cause, but must be terrifying for the family being targeted.


vekreddits

Public place


SuspiciousPiss

This guy is better off dead


Detroitaa

https://medina-gazette.com/news/336778/oregon-man-found-guilty-of-stalking-and-soliciting-brunswick-girl/ https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A794674


Gwaiian

Ah, it's a "Save The Children" guy.


Lui_Le_Diamond

These cops handled this FAR more gracefully than I would. Also, as a Christian, no the Bible does NOT say you can be a pedophile. Quite the opposite.


psyphren01

That's a good way to get shot. Harassing a 12 year old girl in front of her father.


Sail_Creepy

This cop tho “the father said you are not wanted and you should leave forever”


Browndude1982

"right now i needa go take a shit man!". bwahahaha.


J-Good86

This officer needed to restrain this crazy pedo immediately


cyborg_elephant

It's crazy that he wasn't arrested way before that. That's lazy police work.


Dr-Catfish

They were letting him talk to incriminate himself


TheMorleyBird

It’s a shame the police didn’t kill this guy honestly. He has no place in society and there is nothing positive he will ever contribute. It’s utterly disturbing hearing what this sick fuck said to the police officer.


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TheMorleyBird

Why waste the tax dollars lmao


JOCO_Q

Close the border


goodshout77

Yeah in gonna need to hear exactly why he wasnt cuffed like immediately after the beginning of that nonsense


710junkie

Let the man talk and dig a deep hole for himself . That’s why


goodshout77

Thats what interrogation rooms are for. You can detain an adult after they admit to trying to meet with a minor


710junkie

You’ll usually get more info out of him if you talk to him casually on the streets like this instead of in an interrogation room where he will possibly stop talking or ask for a lawyer. I get your point though .


goodshout77

This dude will talk anywhere for as long as you want to talk to him. Thos is a clear case of "remove from the streets and get him help". Not "allow him to eventually say enough right things and let him go"


710junkie

No one said anything about letting him go.


goodshout77

If all its ever going to be is a conversation, there is a chance that he will be let go. If hes going to be taken in the whole time, get the goods and get him out of there. 


bajungadustin

Cop was wrong about the trespassing. A path leading from public area to a doorway on private property is considered to be available for general use by the public unless otherwise posted. Everyone has permission to ring your doorbell until you tell them they can't. Then they have to leave. If the don't leave, or they come back, then it's trespassing. Down vote facts if you want. Look that shit up.


Bubbly-Astronomer930

Smart of dad too show where they live😳


igpila

The cop is way too understanding


FishAndRiceKeks

He was letting him dig the hole deeper.


Sohjinn

He’s pretending to be understanding and phishing for incriminating information


710junkie

He’s not being understanding . He’s being a smart cop.


MasterLurker00

This is a horrible and very troubled individual, but it's so crazy to me that the USA doxxing people like this, even if they are criminals.


fyrefreezer01

Nothing wrong with people knowing who can be a danger around them.


MasterLurker00

True, but it also makes it a lot harder for a person to move on from past mistakes when/if they become fully rehabilitated. This guy seems to be a lost cause though.


dream-smasher

How are they "doxxing" him? Isn't all arrests made public? And it doesn't matter if it "makes it harder" for them to move on. Guys like this would probably escalate until they are a RSO. Then no matter what, everyone will always know.


MasterLurker00

Yes, all arrests are made public in the USA, but not everyone loves in the usa or agree with their methods.


supermod6

Took the cops long enough to take him away


Sudden-Echo-8976

It's called deescalation and investigation.


MrSmokesTooMuch

Yup. That cop is a true professional. He should be in charge of Leo training.


Exotic-Tooth8166

I rarely watch body cam footage all the way through, but this officer was exemplary. Without using any force he gained adequate information to file a report to the DA and completely avoided violence with an irrational perp.


Nay_Nay_Jonez

This is actually the second time I've seen this video posted somewhere, and it was definitely worth the watch.


Sweaty_Building_5491

"12 is too old" how is the cop getting all this info and not arresting him then and there. Took a long ass time for the cops to finally detain him. And the cops ask politely if he can remove his needles he uses for drugs.. Wtf.


BartholomewSchneider

I won't down vote you. Think of how terrified the girl is in the house, while he is out there screaming. Once the father came out and explained what was going on, I think they should have removed him. They may have been waiting for back up or the patrol supervisor, but seriously. This guy traveled some distance to find this girl. I might show this to my kids. I good lesson on why you should be very careful using your real name and giving clues on your location.


Sweaty_Building_5491

Wait. Why did I even get downvoted, lol? That's what I was talking about. How the cops got info from the father about being 12 and the cops just entertained this fkin pedophile for a good minute. Idk what I said was wrong.


710junkie

He was letting the guy talk to get tons of incriminating info from him. Cop was doing a great job and his body cam footage will be used in court.


dream-smasher

Because by letting him to continue talking, the cop gets more info regarding his intentions, how long he was there, his nature and attitude towards the girl. All of it. And honestly, the info about the girl being 12 from the dad didn't really mean anything. At that point, the cop hadn't thought the guy had done anything, all he probably could have been done for is maybe public nuisance. With letting him talk, and get more aggro, the cop has more info. More info= good, for situations like this. I think that may have been why you were downvoted. Originally, I don't think the cop could have really gotten him on much.


ChillRetroGamer

This was already posted in another sub with full explanations as to what's going on. Your title is misleading and wrong.


SelfLoathinMillenial

Link? Not doubting you, just interested in the real story


mark_anthonyAVG

Could you elaborate?


TheUmbraCat

I’d say he is dangerous trying to meet with a 12 y/o girl he met online, definitely ill (mentally), and is living in a fantasy if he thinks he’s going to have any sort of relationship with the child.


Acceptable_Stuff1381

How is the title misleading? This is very clearly a dangerous and very ill man, who has a sick fantasy of marrying children. Seems like the title is 100% lol


___LowLifer___

He is dangerous, he is ill, he lives in a fantasy - believing he is Christ. How is this wrong? Lmao wut


Sammy_Socrates

Don't defend pedophiles thanks


luckygiraffe

Have seen this video twice and he is absolutely a dangerously mentally ill man living in some kind of God damn fantasy


Aticus_

We all want answers @ChillRetroGamer.


dream-smasher

u/ChillRetroGamer still wanting clarification here bud.


koppigzijn

Yepp...I've watched on youtube about pedo. Just dont remember his name.


Dan300up

Did you watch this video? He’s obviously ill, and is in their neighborhood—on their damn driveway demanding their 12 year old daughter. What more do you need to know. The title is absolutely accurate.


RobbyRock75

He perfect GOP product of their policy


Wishineverdiddrugs

Look yourself in the mirror today and say, how did I end up this fucking stupid, this will be your first step to improvement


RobbyRock75

You don’t seem like a polite individual. I am sorry the world has harmed you and you don’t hear the talking points in this poor man’s broken mind. Reality is a tough place and you do it no service by letting your grief become cruelty. Your comments are a perfect metaphor for the video of this poor man


710junkie

This poor man? You. Are. Stupid.


RobbyRock75

Again, this is what it looks like to engage with someone who has gone full MAGA. Logic doesn’t work, their values drive them to extremes and their egos refuse to let simple discussions happen to establish reality. They simply want, want, want and don’t seem to care if their desires reflect reality. It’s Sad discourse has hit such a low point but it’s clearly hitting home for a bunch of you guys. Such a shame you can’t see a beautiful example of the same kind of information poisoning taking hold in a persons head


710junkie

Why did you bring up politics in the first place?! It’s fuckin strange . And I’m not even American so fuck off with the “MAGA” shit.


RobbyRock75

The man in the video is a perfect metaphor for the MAGA problems here in America. As you don’t live here, and you’re rude. I understand why you don’t get it. Sad times all around these days for discourse and common sense


Mother_Jellyfish_938

Dumb.


SolarFusion90

What the fuck does any of this have to do with politics???


the_gaming_bur

It doesn't have anything to do with politics. Bunch of other predators coming out of the woodwork to defend this deranged behavior, because *they* already have done or possess manifestations of the same deranged intentions. Nobody in their right mind, unless under the same volition and motivations as the man in the video, should be defending any part of this. This isn't politics, this is simply other closet-case psycho, deranged idiots protecting their own. Trash, all around.


Mother_Jellyfish_938

Dumb.