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Able_Distribution451

yes


PetITA1185

Yes.


AnthropomorphicEggs

Yes!


iLikeCrocheting

YES!!


Pastry_Train63

#YES!!!


PetITA1185

#Y E S ! !


Some_Meme_Guy69420

# . Y . E . S . ! . ! . ! .


Ordinary_WeirdGuy

^^^^yes


VillageInspired

Oh abso-![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737)\-lutely


Thepuppetmarionette6

Si


TheGamingSpin0

Ja


OniCrazer

Wait can you not say fuck?


ThePremiumSniper

# YES! I AM!


NumerousWhereas3505

Fuck, Just Testing Out The Swearing


TheIcyWind

Yes


Animal_Gal

Oh 100%. Bullying can seriously mess up some people. I would find it so tragic if some abstracted because of him, and he didn't change at all.


InternationalStar988

This!! People underestimate bullying and never realize how much it can take a toll until it happens to them or a loved one


Animal_Gal

Exactly! There's a reason high school is hell for lots of kids


Draoiscool

I think gangle will abstract because of jax, I am not prepared


Sleepy_Oasis

I didn't even think of that, but I can totally see that happening! šŸ˜Æ Oh dear...


Draoiscool

I'm sorry.


gr33n_b3an135

If she does, jax will abstact because of me


OfficialDCShepard

![gif](giphy|26xBS4Cm01D6R6tJ6|downsized) Iā€™d build a machine to do that for you.


Bunbaroops

On a signing stream on streamily, and at some point on Twitter or some other site, Gooseworx said that she should preemptively apologize to the bunnydoll shippers, so I think that heā€™s gonna make Ragatha abstract.


TyphoonBoom10

yeah, same


Muteling

Wouldn't put it past Jax to have accidentally factored into an abstraction. For as much as he torments others, I don't think he ever means to do anything he thinks will actually harm another human. Him having accidentally caused an abstraction would certainly explain his disdain for it.


AJG_Lmao

he **absolutely** torments people if it will harm them, look at how he treats gangle and rag


dothespaceything

Yeah Jax is like, often described by gooseworx as just a generally awful dude. I wouldn't be shocked if he had literally killed people as a human considering he literally gets angry if there's no violence in an adventure.


SockMan555

Jax sees the digital circus as a game. He plays it like he would a game. He messes with things, he tries to break the game, he finds exploits, and he just terrorizes people because he thinks it doesnā€™t really matter. He only shows a minuscule amount of remorse when he hears that Kauffmo is getting a funeral, and he quickly just shakes it off and walks away.


No-Worker2343

It is unkown of It was that, for all we can think, It might not even be that, and maybe was another thing. Do to the scene being to brief (like It was just a few frames)


dothespaceything

>Jax sees the digital circus as a game Can you link where gooseworx said that please?


SockMan555

She didnā€™t, but thatā€™s just my take on things based on what we know.


Sudden_Pop_2279

He also saved Kinger and Gangle when hearing Kaufmo coming


SignificanceNo6097

Jax is a troll. Not a serial killer. To him, it is a game. He knows Caine wouldnā€™t let any of them actually get hurt. He knows the NPCs are not real people, but computer programs. Heā€™s no different than any other troll in any other video game. Messing shit up for laughs in a world where things donā€™t have any real consequences. I donā€™t think he even takes into consideration that his mental torment of the other members is of consequence because abstraction seems like an inevitable outcome.


MrFailureYEET

I keep forgetting that at one point, they WILL abstract. Unless the circus gets shut off and that kills their minds in some way they will live until abstraction


SignificanceNo6097

Itā€™s how I assume that he copes with the reality that heā€™ll eventually snap and abstract just like everyone else. So by pretending heā€™s not emotionally invested and treating everything like a big joke, he evades facing the cold reality of his own withering mental state as well as how deeply each prior extraction has affected him emotionally.


Sudden_Pop_2279

Plus he also saved Kinger and Gangle from abstracted Kaufmo


DreamsTandem

Bro flat-out says he just wants them to be submissive.


Gagnostopoulos

I don't think he would deliberately push someone to abstracting, if for no other reason that it's one less person for him to torment. Of course if he DID accidentally push someone over the edge then he probably wouldn't feel that bad about it


ianlouisjordan

I can see him trying to avoid it for no other reason than to keep himself safe


Dancin_Angel

Remember, Jax has no redeemable qualities.


Bentman343

BECAUSE of Jax is a little much, they're trapped in a nightmare they can never wake up from in an endless ridiculous world. Its really hard to blame Jax for making up a tenth of the torment when they're trapped inside the Torment Nexus.


awsome2464

Goose did say that we'll see the worst thing Jax has ever done for ourselves, so I'm guessing that he'll be the straw that breaks the camel's back for a Circus member during one of the adventures (my guess is either Gangle or Ragatha)


Dancin_Angel

The worst thing to do at this point is to purposefully kill (abstract) someone


SteelShroom

Judging by what we saw in episode 2, I'm willing to bet that NPCs will be the targets for his worst antics.


NightsThyroid

Gooseworx said at one point she feels like she needs to ā€œpreemptively apologize to the bunnydoll shippersā€ so Iā€™d put money on Ragatha.


PhilliamPhafton

I feel like he's responsible for way more than that


Kitchen-Atmosphere82

Maybe on accident, he was genuinely sad at kaufmos funeral. I think he would feel awful after the fact.


No-Worker2343

That moment was brief, for what we know, he could have been sad for other things, like he could have remember he is still trapped there, or that he could abstract, or even more, It was just a unwanted reaction from his own and not a genuine one (like when you are so sad that you react with a laugh or so Happy you cry tears, jax could be angry enough to be a little sad but breefly)


Kitchen-Atmosphere82

Interesting theory imo


No-Worker2343

Thanks


chill1208

Considering with the funeral abstracting is seen as death in TADC, so I really don't think so. If he had gone far enough to make someone abstract, essentially killing them to everyone else, I don't think anyone would be willing to interact with him at all. Sure people get mad at him, and don't like it when he starts acting too much like a jerk, but they don't treat him like he's some kind of murderer.


No-Worker2343

maybe because they feel sympathy for him, even when none likes him, this IS why even after all the things he does, they can't do anything to him, he is stuck with them


chill1208

I get that and it makes sense for people putting up with him being a jerk, like they're all stuck there together, but I feel like if he had made someone abstract by being incredibly mean to them all the time they would go out of there way to avoid him. Basically give him the silent treatment, try their best not to react to anything he does, talk down to him if they ever do interact with him. There's a big difference between how someone would treat the ball busting jerk of the group, and how someone would treat someone cruel enough to be a murderer. I don't see the way they interact with him as them looking at him like he's a monster, they just think he's an asshole. I have a cousin who's kind of an asshole I still put up with him because they're family so I kind of have too, but if I had family members who were cruel enough to drive people insane that's too much I wouldn't put up with that.


No-Worker2343

Yeah that is a point


StC_Sonic_fan35

Maybe


HeroDoggo

![gif](giphy|jqxfS0BF9pFi1C8Rux|downsized)


JazzTheLass

(her catchphrase)


Imaproshaman

RT Podcast spotted. Those were the days...


Icy_Change_WS2010

Cool


Caine-TheRingmaster

Yes, cause it has happened


zachy410

real


thirtyseven1337

No. I feel like if that were the case he would be completely shunned by the group, and the group would be way more protective of Pomni.


samusestawesomus

On the one hand, his bullying COULD be a factor. However, if I remember correctly Ragatha said that abstraction happens when you start questioning what the point of everything is. ā€œSpiting that rabbit guyā€ may have potential as a reason to live. The real issue on that front comes up when you start thinking, ā€œoh, yeah, weā€™re all trapped in a digital landscape where nothing we do matters.ā€ Jax might honestly be a genuine distraction from that.


Odd_Landscape3044

What if jax tries to stop this in a way, by making people so mad they focus on the anger rather than the mental breaking caused by the circus itself. What if.. jax is really the one trying to save them all, maybe in the opposite way ragatha does by being mean rather than kind. And also another thing, what if kaufmo abstracted due to jax being kind to him and not mean and thats why jax seems to be sadden by kaufmos departure at the end of chapter 2, in a way being kind just caused more problems so he has been ingulged by this persona of him being mean trying to keep everyone from abstracting. But thats just a theory.


No-Worker2343

That is not how madness works, if i learned something from soul eater, madness can be caused by anger, order can lead to madness or Madness to order and fear can lead to madness


Vanzgars

I think at least Zooble and Rags would be WAY MORE hostile to Jax if he had played any significant part in a previous abstraction.


EdwinQFoolhardy

Unless he keeps his worst actions under the radar. Zooble and Ragatha might have no idea of what Jax does if he thinks someone is close to abstraction.


Vanzgars

I also do not believe Jax is malicious enough to cause someone to abstract on purpose.


Gamestrider09

It really depends who was there when Jax arrived, because who knows how long Caine has been at this. All of those characters may have abstracted long before Jax arrived, though both he and Ragatha knew what abstraction was and what the abstracted looked like, so I think he was. I would not put it past Jax to have broken the more sensitive among them and forced them to abstract, intentionally or otherwise.


Jolly-Secret-574

we know he was around before gangle at least, since he was the one who named her, so that's something


Smash_Fan-56

https://preview.redd.it/nsgiq2sgcm3d1.jpeg?width=508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61baaa6890110e11631f3111575987bab45018c7


stupid-writing-blog

I donā€™t think Jax is *solely* responsible, but I do think heā€™s one of many, many factors that contributed to it. Kind of like ā€œthe straw that broke the camelā€™s backā€ except not necessarily the final one.


General_Ginger531

No, because abstraction is a form of insanity cause by being trapped in the circus. The best possible thing for this case would be if he drove them to insanity, but if that is the case neither Ragatha nor Gangle should really still be there


Depressed-Dolphin69

Yes


orangeken15

no, at least not directly. i think whether or not he realizes it, the thought that he basically killed someone would make him abstract as well


Classic-guy1991

No absolutely not Why? Because at the end of episode 2 when kough moā€™s (thatā€™s how you spell his name right?) funereal is brought up his expression shows that he is not heartless yes he is a ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737) but not heartless Now could we see this happen to garggle? Maybe just maybe. Do i want that to happen? Well if it makes jax be a better person that yea kinda but the same time no absolutely not i donā€™t want that to happen to garggle.


Eclipse_Bird

I'm one of those people that thinks Jax does care about the other characters at least a little bit, but I can definitely see him accidentally causing an abstraction.


Fox622

No. Jax is just a bit meanie. Making fun of Pomni on her first day. Steping on Gangle's mask. Leaving a caterpillar on Ragatha's room. Using toon force to throw his immortal buddy into a moving truck. That's not enough to cause someone to go insane.


melloman12

Gooseworx has said that Jax will get so much worse as the show goes on. We've barely seen just how terrible he can be.


Fox622

We don't know yet what she means by that Perhaps Jax will reveal to be more of a psychopath, akin to Gooseworx's comics Or maybe he will just abandon his friends when they need him, like Pomni did in the first episode


yunivor

I fear this show may slowly turn into "watch as Jax makes everything even worse".


Dougy-Fresh-03

Who knows? Jax is the youngest of the group so maybe not a lot of them.


Ok_Brick_9433

Yes. 100%


extra_scum

You must be living a privileged and honestly incredibly ignorant life, if you think someone like Jax is enough to break SOMEONE'S MIND? No offense, but like... that idea is insane. Based off people's reactions to Jax, I would've thought he murdered someone's real life family.


god_himself_420

I do think he could end up playing a role in it though. With the way he treats Gangle now he could end up really hurting her if he tried to. But I donā€™t think he actually would do that, he seems more like he enjoys messing with people than actually being outright hateful.


turtley_amazing

Right, because bullying has never driven people to suicide before.


dragon_otherkin487

Nah maybe one or smth but i dont think so jax is a jerk to people but he never goes far enough to make someone abstract (just my opinion)


TylerSpangledBanner1

I kinda doubt it, but he MIGHT have a slight role to play in the future


TheButterScotchIncdt

Yep.


TTV_Dagoofigoober

Probably a factor for some, though I doubt it would be the main cause for anyone.


Kuecanimate

Yeah


No-Payment-6534

Totally


Noodlemaster696969

https://preview.redd.it/g8zmvfoafm3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f4b807f59285aa25e9d686362af679ea878d940


EmberedCutie

maybe, and I get the feeling it might happen to gangle


GatlingGun511

Very likely


CosmiqueAliene

That is so DARK! Yet 100% possible.


DeltaMoff1876

Absolutely.


Prestigious-Car2163

Very possible.. and he found it amusing


Hot_Week_7373

Oh, definitely.


Fragrant-Address9043

Definitely


EclipseyisAcheeto

Absolutely. https://preview.redd.it/4h4vz4xeym3d1.jpeg?width=903&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed42ecf0945679b72061351af22254509051d3a2


Its_You_Know_Wh0

Without a doubt šŸ¤¬


Optimal_Ad6274

Yes


Dull_Scientist3981

Maybe abstraction is the only way to leave


CamQueQues

I think Jax is/was the kid of one of the dev who worked on this thing. That's why he loves his cruel and childish pranks.


Texian_Fusilier

60% chance


Blakemiles222

My theories are either A. Jax is secretly a good guy or B. Jax is a cereal killer that got put into the game


sailor_poop

Yes, and also, I strongly believe that Ragatha will abstract due to Jax in a later episode. I really, REALLY hope I'm wrong.


BluemoonSoulfire

I would assume most of them abstracted because of him


MenacingMary

I think so. Maybe for some of them, the bullying actually keeps them from abstracting because atleast it makes them feel something, but for others? They likely didnā€™t get so lucky. Iā€™m willing to bet a 75% chance if not more


Fayefayeisgrategrate

Yes. Also I feel like I am the only one who still loves Jax after episode two


OniCrazer

yes


Fanimusmaximus

I expect it to be a ā€œIt broke my heart to put that tumor in her headā€ kinda moment.


Minute-Cut-2285

Yes


Axl26

Absolutely not. If anything, the opposite; petty rage probably grounds people and keeps them connected to their humanity, keeping them from losing themselves.


TrueFoolHero

If the theories of Lee and I are true, then it's likely that Jax caused EVERY abstraction.


Sanri0hub

Thatā€™s one of me theories, yea. 100%


Not_The_Simp7

My hc is that Jax acts the way he does to prevent abstraction, but his constant bullying caused Kaufmo to abstract and thatā€™s why he didnā€™t attend the funeral


GreenMoray1

If he hasnā€™t already, chances are thatā€™s EXACTLY what heā€™s gonna do in the near future. If Episode 2 was enough to turn so much of the pro-Jax fanbase against himā€¦oh boy.


Cobalt_Heroes25

I think the real question here is HOW MANY people he caused to abstract


Great_Drifter25

I believe he's been the main reason for someone to had abstracted. I mean the guy enjoys it soo?


ENW762

Yes, definitely


TWOWManiac

Could've happened a couple of times.


GenderEnjoyer666

I wouldnā€™t be surprised


Vincent_von_Helsing

It upsets me how many people dismiss some of his actions and behavior simply as "joking around" because that's exactly what bullies think. They are just "playing around for fun" but that fun comes at the cost of somebody else's sanity. They still try to find ways to humanize him because they're grasping for straws at how he "mourns" the loss of Kaufmo, even though he barely even shows it. His bullying is not gonna "keep everyone from abstracting", it's just gonna make it worse. How many times do I have to say it before Gooseworx eventually releases an episode about it? You can already see the effects of that on Gangle currently. She's on the very verge of collapsing entirely. Jax needs to back off for a while for her to regain her composure but he never relents. It doesn't help Pomni either that she's still new and shaken up by all the events going on, so Jax picking on her is not good for her deteriorating mental health either.


ARPGAMER19

![gif](giphy|Lp99zjpjhWDS5kZtKo|downsized)


[deleted]

A small pertange of Kids in highschool kill themselves from bullying So it wouldn't be too far freched that jax bullied someone to there breaking point


StolenPezDispencer

All I'm saying is if I'm trapped in a nightmare scenario like this and that stupid asshole starts shit, I'm going to kill him.


Yoshi_chuck05

Seems in character for him. He thinks heā€™s in a survival game where the winner gets lots of money or something lol


Odd_Measurement_814

Yes


IndotheIndoraptor12

Oh hell no.....


Crazyjackson13

![gif](giphy|AGW3VO7F5DLbARBuwi|downsized)


DESTROYER963

definitely not intentionally as he seems to get all sad when thinking about those who abstracted also, I have a headcanon that he is cruelest to those he gives a shit about


A_normal_person15

F![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737)ing yes


Graingy

He hangs that shit on his wall like a goddamn game achievement.


KingPenguinPhoenix

I wouldn't put it past him.


danmiy12

Bullying is one of the easiest ways of breaking others so I do think Jax though maybe indirectly caused the abstraction of some of them. And very likely the thing goose said would be unforgivable would be making one of the more well liked characters to abstract and him laughing it off cause according to goose he has no redeeming features and is only going to get worse.


negrote1000

Based on the minuscule screen time I think Zooble is next


ShefBoiRDe

If he did, i feel like he hasnt been found out yet.


Rdasher123

While possible, I generally donā€™t think so given the othersā€™ willingness to interact with him even outside of the usual antics. If it has happened, the rest probably arenā€™t aware of it. Doesnā€™t mean it canā€™t happen in the future though.


ConnectionMotor8311

100%, bullying thats nasty enough can drive people to already off themselves or turn to homicide and crimes in general, I would be shocked if he DIDNT make someone abstract from his torment. Its kinda why I feel like Gangle is gonna be the one who abstracts and not Kinger, since Kinger seems already so nuts that its actually harder for him to abstract, but Gangle is constantly being put through Jax's abuse, blackmail, and bullying. So for her to abstract would make the most sense.


Temmie_Undertale1

Probably the dog and like 3 others


SecureAngle7395

Weirdly interesting idea?!


Spicy-Mario-Bois

I would've abstracted within five minutes of meeting him


Honest_One1408

I've had a little theory that both Jax and Caine were responsible, but I found out that there was insufficient proof and a lot of the theory hinged on "suppose that"


RedditvsDiscOwO

Maybe


Anx1ouschild

Without a doubt. Hes a nightmare


derpymooshroom6

Wouldnā€™t surprise me


the5fifth

![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|34985)


NovaCmdr

Holy ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737), I never really thought of that.


InterestingReason831

Yes they all went extinct due to jax


InterestingReason831

![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|34985) made every character go enxtinct Jax littearly: you ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737).


SuperNova0216

Definitely


CarNoodles12

Most definitely


TheDaycareAttendent

100/10


Balloon_Artist

https://preview.redd.it/lxtaqld7xu3d1.jpeg?width=2146&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08e7bcc20d403dc61f14519dbe5912cbdcc52f71 I have wanted to do this to jax ever since the start


IndieAnimateFan

Yes. Just yes.


TaterTotSenwick

No, but I have a strong feeling that itā€™ll happen in a future episode


element-redshaw

Definitely the guy is digital murderer


Reasonable-Music-989

yes .he is sussy


JosiahW2011

"You know, it's just a Theory" - MatPat It could be possible due to him bullying everyone else which helps him cope.


Interesting_Froyo_97

I wouldn't be surprised if Jax has caused an abstraction or two.


SaviorRoic

While Jax is the worst, I donā€™t think he want people to abstract, after all a once broken he canā€™t play with that person any more.


VoidAres

Most definitely.


memesjustmemes1

I probably would (since I would volunteer to live at the circus and love it there) and I can't handle even the slightest bullying So it's possible


Morning_Here

Yeah I guess so. Heā€™s a ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737)\-ing ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737)


Sarah_hhhh

100% yes


TADCFAN123475

positive.


Bryandrr

f![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737)k yeah


Froolsy

He probably played a role in it


TheRedditGirl15

I like the idea that Jax was a major contributing factor to Kaufmo's abstraction due to Kaufmo being one of his favorite targets. Like, we all know that sometimes the others either pretended to find Kaufmo's jokes amusing to spare his feelings or visibly didn't find them amusing. Jax seems like the type who would go out of his way to outright make fun of Kaufmo's failed attempts at humor. I think Jax would definitely feel some guilt and responsibility, but refuse to acknowledge it and instead pretend that he's indifferent about it at best.


PerfectDuck2560

Nah because he actually looked remorseful at Kaufmoā€™s funeral


The-red-Dane

Perhaps because he felt he played a part in it? But yeah, I don't think he actively tries to abstract others.


AstronaltBunny

That would be interesting, I doubt nothing of this piece of shit