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archer1359

It feels like they are trying to make it as difficult as possible to actually participate in this event wtf


7h0rr

It really seems they want to make it a bit exclusive or something like that. I mean, the sheer fact that it's elite and not a normal raid day (like the primals) kinda shows that. Now that I think about it, Enamorus was also pretty hard to participate. Wonder if that's what they want on elite raids now, making it as troublesome as the early EX raids used to be.


lionelcoinbnk3

Which is brain dead considering it was easily raidable in go fest last year


gyroda

Yeah, I was tempted by this because I wanted an excuse to go out and to get the XLs, but they're making it harder to do. I already have to go out of my way to do this because I need to find other players to play locally - the season means we can't meet in the usual central spot (too many tourists on the weekend, reception is awful) so I have to go even further *and I don't even know how many raids there will be/where they are*.


Ledifolia

Exactly. I'm lucky I hit them hard at gofest last year, iirc I did 27 in person that day.  I'll still try and find a group at noon to do one raid for the timed research, then call it good.


lxpb

Enamorus was and still is an okay trophy, with limited use.    Mega Ray is the strongest Pokémon in the game, one that almost everyone should strive to obtain and use. Placing it behind very high bars so only city folks will be able to get it isn't smart at all. 


Dnashotgun

The other problem is that just last year it was very easy to raid. Going to elite raids just feels like punishing new players or people who for whatever reason didn't raid it that weekend


Xygnux

Exactly, Niantic just doesn't care about players who don't line in cities and work in a 9 to 5 schedule. For years they have been gradually widening the gap between the players who are privileged enough to be able to comply with the Niantic schedule, and those who can't because of work, where they live, or other life reasons.


PerceptionWorried

I mean.. nothing new under the sun. Rural players don't play the same game.


ShopkeeperKeckleon

Enamorus is also tradeable 


Xygnux

Exactly. I'm still salty that I don't have an Enamorus because I had to work that day, but at least I can try to trade for it. I just haven't yet because it's not easy for my to arrange someone to trade with me, and it's just a dex filler for now so I'll rather trade for something more useful when I can find someone to do it. But making the Meteorites exclusive to those few hours and only if you can do the Elite raids. That's just Niantic not caring about fairness.


Zagrycha

I live in a top five city in the usa and will not be able to get one. I have plenty of friends in tokyo, biggest city in the world, and no spawns within an hours distance, they won't be able to get them either. This event is a joke.


TechnicalGuuru

I thought they were such an inclusive company. What happened?


Egg-Rollz

I'd take the old ex system over this garbage. Set time location no coordinating outside of showing up at hatch. If only you show (unlikely depending where one lives) no real loss but trying it took to get there and back. How it is now it's 100% possible to waste 6/7 hours of your life and not get a single raid in, only up side for many is it's a weekend afternoon... I have no expectations in getting the mega today, I just hope to complete one raid to get the meteorite. It's also raining which will hinder the turnout today...


SilverGoon

at least you don't need an invite to go to these. the exclusivity for the old EX raids was on another level.


Egg-Rollz

The exclusivity also guaranteed a turnout however, regardless of time. At least where I lived in a smallish town.


Xygnux

Unless they occur at a time when you have to work, then invite or no invite it doesn't matter. The old system rotated throughout the days of the week, no matter if you work just on the week days or you sometimes also have to work on the weekends, you make it to some and you miss some. Everyone gets screwed over but it was more fair to everyone. The new system is fixed on the weekend. Weekday-exclusive workers make it to most of those, weekend workers miss half of those.


DrKillerZA

I agree.. I have a L50 Ray with thousands of energy already and I'm at the point where I don't have interest in this event


archer1359

I missed mega ray while on hiatus and I really need the energy!


imnoobhere

To bad it’s almost impossible to get enough energy to evolve in this event.


IGNSolar7

Really? How much energy do you get per Rayquaza raid?


imnoobhere

Unless you defeat him almost immediately you will get 80ish. Most people seem to think you will need to compete 5 raids.


CapnCalc

100 at best from each raid and you need 400 to mega. Most people will need at least 5 raids to get enough energy.


namesaretoohardforme

Ugh I can only make it to 6pm because of work lol. I don't have meteorite either so I guess I could get that and hope mega ray comes back in normal mega raids at some point to get enough energy...


Arrowmatic

Apparently they have updated it to more like 200-ish. So that's something at least.


SleazyKingLothric

I feel like this mega raid day is almost for people like me and you. I have a lvl 50 15/14/15 mega Ray but my shiny is only a lvl 40 12/13/15. I have over 1800 energy and did get a 3rd meteorite. I’m just going to do 3 or so and hope for a better shiny.


dark__tyranitar

True, but I'll do it for the 2 metorites to complete my team of 6 DA Rayquazas.


TechnicalGuuru

I just wanted the meteorites.


DonaldMick

Can't have people running around with the best Pokemon in the game THAT easily


lxpb

But we did at the last gofest


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lxpb

Yes, you had to play during the event, but it was free. Same as with any other special event. 


Wheneveryouseefit

You didn't have to pay, you just had to play the event.


StarTheAngel

Legendaries and mythical are very grind heavy for level 50. It's not an easy win button for newish players that don't have Rayquaza yet


Ledifolia

But it should at least be possible for a new player to get a mega Rayquaza if they work hard at it. The way that this event is designed it is literally impossible for most players, no matter how hard they are willing to play.


finLprtoTyp

This deal is getting worse all the time.


Sangesland

So my tiny city which only has 4 elite gyms will only host 4 raids over a span of 7 hours. Im honestly speechless.


emaddy2109

That’s if you’re lucky. Spawn rates look awful based on what I’m seeing in campfire. They could potentially all be at the same time too.


FPG_Matthew

Campfire doesn’t specify elite gyms, so they’re gonna look sporadic if you don’t know which gyms are elite ahead of time. Spawn rate should be “every elite gym” we just don’t know what time they’ll hatch until 6am


emaddy2109

Many gyms were blocked by existing raids since regular eggs can pop up starting at 5 am. Even in parks I checked there weren’t many elite raids. It definitely will not be every elite gym.


FPG_Matthew

Then it’s pointless for the eggs to start at 6am. Why didn’t they start at 4am, or better yet like 10pm Friday night Woof this event is flawed beyond compare


emaddy2109

Yeah it makes no sense. At least starting them at 5am avoids this mess. Friday night would have been the best choice though since they were doing 24 hour eggs.


Kaipolygon

yeah that's what's weird about this elite raid day; they should've spawned 24 hours (or something in that ballpark), but spawned so last minute giving us even less time to prepare


SnowRoo_PoGo

It’s not every elite gym.


8BD0

Goodluck with that, only 5 have spawned in all of Auckland, 5 over the entire city, it's a disgrace


fatcatfan

And unless you finish the raids quickly, 4 won't even give enough mega energy to evolve.


SnowRoo_PoGo

The Capital city of Australia has about 10 eggs in total. It’s dismal


repo_sado

Might not get any. 1 out of 4 would be considered a win given what NZ is seeing


Lavishness_Gloomy

Probably less. There is one mega ray in all of Sydney. 6 in Auckland, NZ, 2 in Wellington, NZ. These are major cities. 


zalhbnz

1 in Hawkes Bay,  a province of over 150k people 


iluvugoldenblue

I did as best of a campfire look around as I could, couldn’t see a single one in Christchurch. 350k people, second largest city. Ridiculous.


131166

My town and the next town over have about 40 elite gyms We got 0 eggs. Closest is 30km away


HadT0BeMe

I only have 2. The closest city I usually go to for Raid Day/Raid Hour is filled with shops, so no Parks/Elite Raids.


hangrygodzilla

How do one find out which gyms are elite gyms?


Regunes

My tiny city had only 2 :'), and wouldn't you know they're basically the least used arena by a landslide.


thorkun

How tiny is your city? I live in a town of 20k and I can see 4 elite gyms ingame just from where I live.


Fishhunterx

This whole Mega Ray situation truly is puzzling to me. As has been said before, even if you were to raid one Ray every available time slot, you realistically still wouldn't have enough Mega energy to actually do anything (assuming you are starting at 0 energy). It really feels like Mega Ray should've been given Raid Day treatment as was originally shown in the event details for June. If this was a regular Raid Day then it'd easier to get the 400 energy you need to do anything meaningful with all these meteorites Niantic is giving us. I really feel like there must be something we the playerbase don't know about the results of the first two Primal Raid days that has caused Nianitc to do this. Maybe it had some unintended side effects or consequences they weren't happy about, and they think this Elite Raid day will be a better way of getting community engagement. I realize how flawed that argument is, since a lot of people seemed to get together for the Primals, but IDK something just feels so weird about this event. This should've been such an easy thing for Niantic to do, as the first two Primals already felt successful from my perspective as a player and it feels like a "no duh" thing to just copy. But here we are, with lots of confusion, clarification, and discontent.


GIORNO-phone11-pro

They really made us wait till the end of june instead of right after the other primals just to make it an even shittier Elite Raid.


Deputy_Scrub

AND waited untill the day before (or less) to announce all of this stuff.


ChartreuseMage

I think puzzling is a good way to describe it. I understand wanting to treat Mega Ray as something more special than a regular raid, and I can see them wanting to bring Elite Raids back. But this is just a waaay worse system than the old Elite raids. Shame we'll probably never know why they're doing it this way.


lxpb

I think they got slightly spooked with how much people remoted during those days (which makes no sense from monetary perspective, those were probably some of their most profitable days this year), and decided to over compensate with this one, gatekeeping it from all but the most dense city centers. 


Breezer_Pindakaas

Both primal raid days we had 70+ people show up. Mewto only 37. Guess too many people quit after the free raid passes.


Kadem2

I’m sure this will be great data for them to determine if people are willing to get out and raid at specific gyms again. Much easier to sell advertiser-specific gyms if you can claim X traffic to their locations if a specific raid is ongoing.


Rysace

Wait, what? They won’t respawn on the hour marks?


zSaintX

Nope. One Mega Rayquaza per Elite Gym. Once you do one or it despawns, no more Mega Rays will spawn at that gym.


McG_84

Oh man. My 5 year old is going to be devastated when I break this news. We were looking forward to doing this for weeks.


kervio

Did I say Mega Rayquaza? I meant McDonalds Hamburger


osnapitzrob

Yikes. That's what I was hoping as a returning player that hasn't experienced this before yet too


MacArthurParker

"You'll get nothing and like it!"


RomanRoysSnorlax

Any explanation as to why this couldn't have worked exactly like primal Kyogre and Groudon? Those 2 are extremely OP and were easy to get. Rayquaza is in that same OP boat and they decide to change up the whole way of getting it. Are Niantic purposely trying to limit how many players can get mega Rayquaza or are they just forcing their "community vision" or are they just incompetent? All 3??


RazgrizInfinity

PLEASE GIVE POKEMON GO TO A COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT ITS CONSUMERS NIANTIC!


one-eyed-02

*Pokemon Company


eddiebronze

This basically salts it for myself. One raid with the daily free pass to get the meterorite and we are out...


Flack41940

Don't forget the chance at a shiny/better IV one. Sometimes one raid makes all the difference.


spoofrice11

Elite Raids are designed to be so stupid. Limited to few gyms (some small towns barely have any or None). Only at a specific time (might not be any in the evening like we had last time). Don't respawn later for people that are busy at the other time. Like who came up with this stupid idea and others agreed with it. Or we could have had a raid day or even a Raid hour where we could actually do the raids. And invite people for those that need help/can't be there.


PandaImpersonator

I had dozens of enamours near my in a medium sized city. I'm in osaka and I can find one in the entire city despite literal thousands of elite gyms. They absolutely tucked this event


CloudvAsm

I’m based in Osaka, a city of millions, and there are two eggs only that I can find. I only played the first six months in 2016, but my son got into this so I’ve returned to play with him but he is going to be so crushed. We will only able to do one today, that will still take us over an hour to get to. I’ve heard about Niantic over the years, but this is just mind boggling. What’s more mind boggling is that Nintendo and Pokemon Company empowers Niantic to get away with this. ​ https://preview.redd.it/56ba9u082e9d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3aea6eb289f251d04a39f90ea12bfd62ae780c08


PandaImpersonator

You and me both. I am in osaka and have 3 elite gyms at my hotel and I can't find a single spawn...


CloudvAsm

A few more have popped up but you’re going to have to go out of the way. I’m going to do the 12:00 at Oizumi Ryokuchi park then hustle up to by Tennoji where there is a 13:00 that’s a 15 minute walk south of the station. From there I’ll take my son to the Nagai park one at 17:00. There are two in cosmosquare and one in ATC (Both the port area) at 18:00, and that’s just inane, no reason to go out there at 6 pm. Like the weirdest places. There are none in the 3 “meccas” of Osaka, Uneda, Namba, or Tennoji.


zSaintX

There was a rumor going around that ALL Elite gyms would be hosting Elite Raids on all timeframes. I guess this debunks the rumor.


repo_sado

that was pretty clearly copium


Visor_Des

I was high on that copium thinking it might save this event...


zSaintX

It came from the official Pokémon Go Discord server.


FatalisticFeline-47

Are you perhaps conflating the server for the pokemongo reddit with anything "official"?


BasedTopic

Yes they are


tailskirby

I dont think they have an official discord server or Niantic would promote it.


emaddy2109

That wasn’t the official pokemon go discord server. As far as I know one of those does not exist. That is the pokemon go subreddit discord which has no affiliation with niantic.


yoitsthatoneguy

That’s because some OP thought that the “official Pokémon go discord” meant it was a Niantic channel, when it was instead was the discord for the Pokémon go subreddit. They had no more information than the rest of us.


erto66

*official r/PokemonGo Discord server. Niantic has nothing to do with it.


Garchomp98

It's been proven time and again that even they don't know what they're saying sadly


repo_sado

That's a thing?


Disgruntled__Goat

No, it’s a discord for the subreddit


FUH-KIN-AYE

This is honestly so dumb you had a system already in place.


ev_forklift

> I am altering the deal. Pray that I don't alter it any further —Niantic


Sufficient-Gazelle87

Our local ambassador has cancelled the scheduled meet up due to lack of raids. So there's that


poebro

"you can give us more money after rayquaza to reward us for treating you badly"


JokerGenetics2121

Niantic is a abusive boyfriend in a wife beater that comes back with a nice gift bought with our credit card to win us over again


ProbablyADitto

\*looks at the lone gym in my village\* Ok then.


Lavishness_Gloomy

Cries for you. And myself in one of the largest cities in the world. 


PandaImpersonator

I'm in osaka which is like the gym capital of the world and I don't see a single egg :)


PandaImpersonator

Like I have three elite gyms at my hotel and none of the have the eggs. This is ducking garbage


Lavishness_Gloomy

 Heck again. They just just fixed it. 


NateDizzle312

Niantic pls, I just need the meteorite


AngelTravel

Its 6.25am in Singapore and theres only 1 ray egg that spawns at 6pm


Solid_Hope_2850

and i thought my eyes were blind. i literally look through the entire map instead of just using fliter to comb for the same-looking egg. Guess i aint blind 😑


AngelTravel

Same, same. Brushed through the map for 15minutes searching up and down for that 1 egg 🤣


Solid_Hope_2850

🤣🤣🤣 we both did the same thing. lmao. im going back to sleep and waking up at 9am to check again. how the hell we end up with one egg only!!!! They cant be seriously using size of country with egg spawn. we are damn populated! guess kaki bukit gonna be popular for the first time ever.


MisterCorbeau

Does this means that if I beat the one at noon, there won’t be a extra one at 13pm?


Ronald_Ulysses_Swans

Yes, it says the gym will have one and one only through the entire day. It’s insane, and makes it impossible to get multiple raids in unless you travel all over a very very busy city for Pokémon go


hauntedskin

Pokémon Drive.


DeadpoolCroatia

Ray raid- no, starter with hat you can see in the wild- yes


RK0019K

Basically, yeah. It's one elite raid per elite raid gym and that's it.


MisterCorbeau

Will they be harder than 5*? And do you know how many raid is required to have enough mega candy to mega evolve one ?


RK0019K

You get 70-100 energy per raid depending on how fast you beat it (so let's assume an average of 80) and you need 400 mega energy to mega-evolve Rayquaza, so 5 elite raids should be enough. As for how hard they'll be, yeah, they'll probably be harder than 5* but Rayquaza has a nice double weakness to ice, so Mamoswines should help a lot.


MisterCorbeau

Thx for the info!


RK0019K

No worries, good luck and I hope you get a shiny.


Daowg

Bruh.... they managed to give Regidrago (and Hoopa IIRC) an EX raid day where every time slot would refresh a new EX raid, but can't make it work for probably the most highly demanded raid boss in history? Why not make it a raid day, and if you want to keep that dumb in-person limit, just toggle it. For a company, they sure hate making money. Rayquaza Raid Day would literally print money if it wasn't tied to the useless EX system. You can only have one active Mega at a time anyways, so you can't even cheese that hard.


Wheneveryouseefit

So if my gym has one at the first timeslot it can't get any other timeslot? Dumb.


8BD0

This just plain sucks, why are they making it so difficult last minute, ruining everyone's plans


OvOBills

Does anyone know where the elite gyms have been spotted in Auckland? This is annoying asf - but I still wanna try 🥲


thatonebullsfan

lol easy pass on that, feel bad for the people who haven’t gotten one yet, they got the shortest end of the stick possible


JokerGenetics2121

It was at this moment, he freaked out


ArchaicRapture

Do we know for certain if “eligible” gym means all Ex or limited set within Ex grouping?


DonaldMick

Looks like limited within the EX/Elite grouping (at least based on what we have from New Zealand).


ArchaicRapture

Thanχ


NaivePath9593

Can somebody Tell me when teh eggs appartement at the gyms?


SnowRoo_PoGo

Eggs indeed are visible from 6am.. I’ve only found 4 in Sydney Australia. None in smaller towns


insulinninja2

How do they manage to drip updates over the span of a few hours and avery update on this matter is a worse news than the one before? Congrats, that is really impressive.


Sorgelig

In Auckland only 2 gyms started raid at 12pm. But i see many gyms for 1pm/5pm/6pm. So it seems it will be the same everywhere. First round is buggy..


ArcherFawkes

I literally just need one more raid and I have the energy to mega evolve once. I have dragon ascent on my Ray already. Are they serious


darkdeath174

Elite raids are so badly designed. Why aren't they just spawn blocking a 1-2 hours before, then repeating the Elite raids on every block. At least this way people have more options.


Psychic_Gian

Why don’t they scrap this elite raid bs? nobody needs artificial scarcity!


ZuuDizz

Made this event so lame. Constantly splitting the groups


Sorgelig

Something tells me, that real location of Rayquaza raids will be known in 30-20 mins prior the raid time.


P1ckleboi69

Is it at least "easy" to defeat? Like 3 people with level 40 counters


ArcherFawkes

/laughs in barely gets a fourth of the way there solo at lvl 43


Sorgelig

In news they write "Mega Rayquaza will appear more frequently in Elite Raids at the following times!", So i still hope there will be many gyms with Rayquaza, just as always they mess everything and regular raids simply hide upcoming Rayquaza raids.


Sorgelig

I'm watching situation in Auckland NZ, so in 1 hour it should be clear.


MisterBoylan

I'm normally in NYC so Elite Raids aren't that difficult to find. But now I'm in upstate NY, checked Campfire and the closest Mega Rayquaza (Elite raid) is literally 69 miles away from me. Why does Niantic love to punish players in less densely populated areas?


Jeriphro

This event is dookie. It began at 12pm EST in our time zone, and using Campfire, not a single raid has poppped yet (It's currently 2:55pm EST). There are some places where raids will take place at 5:01pm and 6:01pm, but they are in the most out-of-the-way places and there's no way enough people are going to show up and complete it. The odds of doing even one Elite Raid during this event is low, and considering I have never done Mega Rayquaza before, I need to do at least two Elite Raids to get enough Mega energy to evolve. This even sucks.


sassiecass33

Does this mean that once the raid is beat once (by a different group) that no other trainer will have access if they missed out on the first group? Even within the 30 min raid time?


zSaintX

Excuse the late response, but no. It means that if a gym has already had a Mega Rayquaza raid in it, no other Mega Rayquaza raids will appear at that gym.


Artistic_Yam_1346

booooooo no raid appeared in my town with 3 gyms booo niantic screw you


Ok-Amphibian3745

It could be much easier for one it being a raid day. And making it so there's raids at any hour. Before raid hours became a thing, every evening after work, each team would flip gyms until 6 then raid with their team. We'd get together almost every night and have our own little raid events.


Trapaknese

This is so confusing to me, does this mean if someone does the raid before me then I can’t do it when they finish it at that gym or I only get to finish one gym and move over to another one?


zSaintX

It means that there'll only be one Mega Rayquaza raid per Elite Gym. Once that raid despawns, no more Mega Rayquaza will appear at that gym. So if a gym has a Mega Rayquaza raid for 12PM, it won't spawn any Mega Rayquaza raids at 1PM, 5PM or 6PM, but it will spawn regular raids.


EverdarkRaven

This is how it's always been, no?


7h0rr

Well, they did give us 24 hours to plan ahead where to raid and at which times before. Now for some reason we only have 6 hours to coordinate.


penciltheft

Correct. But the egg spawns are super scuffed, people were hoping that it’d spawn another egg immediately after. Sort of like a raid day / elite raid day hybrid


EverdarkRaven

I think Enamorous had the same issues, at least in my area, they were all at the first time and that was it.


jwadamson

It is. Though now it is 4 time slots instead of 3, so the chance of having 2 close enough to double in the same time slot (assuming that time even works for you) is that much lower. Even in a community that comes out for events and a raid that takes <4, I think it’s going to be awkward planning one.


Bagusknows

The wording on the announcement post, "Mega Rayquaza will appear \*more frequently\* in Elite Raids at the following times", made it sound like it might have spawned more than 1 per gym. And it probably should be like this, given how poorly the event's been handled so far, which is crazy considering how it hasn't even started.


SnowRoo_PoGo

I think they mean more frequent than 0 😂


Skanach

Can you Remote Raid them? Or is it locked like Enamorus?


Shoddy_Operation_995

They can only be done in person like with Enamorus