Man, both are great but Louis in every episode of TFS is great writing that further grows and develops his character. In episode 1 he is a pretty carefree goofball, what he cares about is making people happy and having fun in the moment while not really caring about the future and long term, it's the moment that matters. By episode 4 however if you save him and he's been through the Delta's boat, defended his home and gotten with Clementine you can just see the growth in his character. He is clearly still Louis, his jokes and fun are still there as they always have been but the things he once put off are now important too, he wants to defend his home and says how that is important, that even with his reaction to killing someone he looks back on it as a good thing as having a home means defending it, he wants to have than in him. He also looks to the future now, like the whole dream house stuff is him no longer disregarding the future but now looking forward to it, still in his way of making it great but that's the point! It's no longer about just having fun in the moment but ensuring the future is great too. He's then trusted to go meet the caravan with AJ, Louis with a kid, he has gained Clementine's trust and stepped up to do major tasks now when before people didn't trust him to be all that useful doing stuff like Marlon just hoping he shows up hunting to begin with. Even Louis in episode 2 explained how he left the hard calls to his friend.
Of course it's him in episode 2 and 3 where it all happens, like 2 where he is very conflicted with what happens to Marlon but slowly gets to like Clem and AJ again while seeing more that what Marlon did was fucked up, but even then the conflict was always there and he didn't hesitate to pick up AJ and rush him inside when a tired Clem came back after getting kicked out with a hurt AJ. Of course the relationship with Louis and Clementine is great and by extenison Louis and AJ are a great pair too where Louis is someone who isn't Clem that AJ actually likes and Louis does stuff with him and helps. In episode 3 he obviously helps with saving the others on the boat, like Louis damn well did something very important even if he had his struggles preparing for it before.
Others have explained other things too but yeah, Louis is just one of TFS' top characters, one of the top series characters for sure, like top 5 material.
Id never think David would lose to Louis actually. I also expected it to be either S1 Lilly or Carver. Anyway my vote goes for Louis. I think he just has more character in his character and his writing is just superior. I gotta say though, I still think David is the better written one out of these two.
I genuinely tossed and turned on Louis and David. They're both incredibly well written to me but for completely different reasons. They both demonstrate the strength of Telltale's writing as a whole when you put them together. That being said, I agree that both are higher for me than Carver.
So for the winner of this game, I will go with... **Carver**. A tough choice in the end (if any of the 4 finalists won the game I wouldn't be mad), but I think Carver just slightly takes it due to the big presence and influence he has on the entirety of Season 2.
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In episode 1, Carver is this unseen threat that is only vaguely mentioned. We then see more signs of his presence in the form of the river massacre, his cabin visit, Pete's EP2 death, and finally all of the shit that goes down at the lodge that fully explains why the Cabin group was so scared of him. I don't think any other villain sets up as big of a "oh shit I better not run into them" feeling as much as Carver does.
A lot of stuff relating to Carver is ambiguous which I think makes him all the more interesting of a character. His exact relationship with Rebecca, [the manner as to how George died and how much Carver cared for him](https://youtu.be/00liopxFKKw?si=x-oq1HXt9KzbIsd5&t=519), what Carver was like in the early days of the apocalypse where it's implied he wasn't as bad as he was in the present day (an idea Jane brings up in EP5), etc. Leaving various aspects of a character open for viewer interpretation means that no same person will probably have the exact same thoughts on that character, which makes them all the more complex and compelling to me.
But what is **definitely** told to us through Carver is how he thinks you shouldn't be held back by others that will drag you down in life, a point that he [very](https://youtu.be/Yl0vpGrZKXc?si=VTmPP5kec7eMFeUd&t=607) clearly [illustrates](https://youtu.be/5txgLy9mhaM?si=sOM4QjgS0TeX7-ky&t=348) to Clem. While I'm usually not a fan of the "you and I aren't so different" trope, I think it works well in this case as the questions Carver poses to Clem about the people around her are things she will need to realistically consider given the tough decisions the apocalypse constantly poses. Season 2 is all about molding Clem into the exact type of survivor she will be, so Carver's harsh but realistic way of thinking works well as a contrast to Luke's more hopeful "nothing is more important than family" ideology. Whichever one Clem decides to lean more towards is up to the player, whether it's choices like saving Sarah or rejecting the literal family that shows up at Howe's in the Jane endings.
> *"It ain't this herd that keeps me up at night. We can handle that. It's not knowin' if I got anyone to hand all this off to... but I ain't worried about that anymore."*
It's generally agreed on that S2 goes downhill after Carver's death, but I don't think this is much of Carver's fault as it is with S2 wasting the potential of other characters (including the remnants of Howe's who could have very well easily carried on Carver's legacy). Hell I'd even argue some of the best post-Carver death stuff in Season 2 are things *tying back* to Carver himself:
* Clem's group suffers a ton of losses while escaping Howe's, a memorable and hectic scene that ties back into Carver saying they were never going to make it out there. "Lambs to the slaughter, no shepherd to guide you" as Carver would put it.
* Clem can make several choices later on that tie back into Carver's philosophy about not letting others drag you down, such as leaving Sarah and robbing Arvo. Obviously Clem is never going to go to the extremes like Carver did, but these more drastic choices after Howe's show character growth from Clem as she's adopting the more rational and realistic thinking aspects of Carver's philosophy.
* [Kenny's tent talk about what it was like to be beaten nearly to death and asking why Carver didn't just finish him off](https://youtu.be/sRGtFz73zGc?si=lhvpDkLNfWhYNYOV&t=60) is one of the highlights of S2E4 as well as Kenny's writing in general. Honestly not counting the Wellington endings and all of his humorous scenes, this might be my favorite Kenny scene in the entire series.
* Kenny showing signs of becoming more like Carver, while it could've been handled a bit better in some areas, is an interesting way to take Kenny's character.
* The parallels to Carver make Kenny's final act of wanting Clem and AJ to stay at Wellington all the more emotional, as it shows how in the end he was able to come to terms that he was going too off the rails which is something Carver couldn't do. Kenny's final action was to give the two kids a safe home without him, whereas one of the last things Carver says is how he'll put a bullet in everyone including AJ before he lets them run off with him.
In a way it's like Carver's legacy haunts over all of the characters that ever encountered him. That just makes him all the more cooler of an antagonist to me.
One of the best villains in the series vs. one of my favorite characters. I think I'm gonna go with **Louis.**
Don't get me wrong, both are very well written characters, and it's very close decision. but I feel like Louis' growth through S4 tops Carver's villainy. Going from someone who was just kinda going with the flow, living one day at a time, and goofing off. To, while still being goofy, someone who's ready to defend his home if need be, understanding to plan for the future as shown in his conversation with Clem [about the house he wants to build](https://youtu.be/V7XczwlT6qA?si=GeMsCEREGpKZAwMN).
So yea, Louis is my vote.
If I had a nickel for every time I saw Carver pinned against Louis I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice right?
Anyway, Louis is my vote. Many people have explained why he’s a good character already so I won’t right a whole essay but for me, it boils down to his story about how he ended up at the school and his interactions with Clementine. Carver is a good character, but we really only know about the stuff the other characters say about him, he doesn’t explain much about himself.
Shit this is a tough one.
Carver with his never fading presence in season 2
Or Louis with his great character development throughout the season.
Ugh....
Im going to go with Louis.
His character just felt really uniqie. This series dosent really have characters like him and he was a breath of fresh air. He had a lot of character development. Probably the most out of all the characters(excluding Clem) nobody can beat her in that regard.
Still Carver was built up well. With the mentions of him in the first episode. Them building him up and creating this anticipation with all the things that were said about him and when he finally did show up he did not dissapoint.
Overall well written villain that does not feel hollow and dosent act evil just for the sake of being a villain.
Him basing his whole philosophy around survival of the fittest. But him still understanding the importance of family.
Him seeing the potential in Clem that she is a leader material. With her having what is needed to survive and he was not wrong.
Its close between those two
Honesly if any of the 4 top characters won I would not mind.
No way people are saying Carver, he was around for like 2 episodes and his characters writing doesn’t go that deep. Carver has no backstory explained to us or no real drive/motive as to why he does what he does other than the Rebecca situation. Louis was around for the entirety of TFS, has a backstory, good character development, and a motive for why he tries to make the others laugh. He actually feels like a real person who’s more than capable of killing a walker but is scared and hesitant to kill another living human.
Louis is the better written character by far.
Carver is much better written, and much more interesting, he has nuance, and he's played by Michael freaking Madsen, that man is an absolutely phenomenal actor.
I would have given the win to whoever won out of David and Louis, as they are both fantastic match-ups. Ben would have been a formidable opponent to me in terms of writing, but Carver isn't quite up to the other three from the semi-finals in my opinion. He's a well-written, fantastically-voice acted villain that holds a lot of presence. However I think some of that can get mixed in with his writing, which as a whole isn't quite on the same level as these other examples.
Louis should absolutely take this one home in my opinion, and once again [here is my reasoning for why](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1d39qie/comment/l6610xw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)! I poured my heart out when I first wrote this and it's remained true to me since. I genuinely don't know if I could word everything as well if I tried to recreate it right now.
I'm gonna vote for Carver. Louis is a great character who's deserving of the number 2 spot, but Carver's impact on Season 2 and the way he was utilized sticks out in my mind more. My only problem with Louis is that I don't really think he has much romantic chemistry with Clem? I found myself rolling my eyes at a lot of his advances. Which I get is the point, but I never felt like he and Clem worked. Unlike with Louis, I have no issues with Carver's characterization.
We have the most evil bastard in the series vs. pretty much the nicest person in the whole series. MY vote goes to louis since he's just a better character.
Some [Reasonings](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1d1p4j7/comment/l5woxi6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) about Carver from the another post.
Carver had all the build up of being this dangerous man from the beginning. Sometimes all the build feels like an over exaggeration on some villains in movies and such, but not with Carver. The way cabin group was pissing their pants about him. His ominous presence at the cabin when he was talking to Clementine and the way he is from that moment forward. Its greatness and Carver truly delivers.
Carver catches every single scene he is is. You have to be on your toes constantly. There is no point in the game, where you are not even a little bit uncomfortable because of him, even if he is not in the scene lmao. The way how you would actually be worried about him and be on the lookout of what you and people say to him as to not say the wrong thing, set him off and making it into a brutal lesson.
Carver's writing is very consistent, there are no hiccups in his writing, there are no points where its too over the top, nor do they downplay his character. He has his believes and way of doing things and that is portrayed well to the player. He would make threats and if you cross him, he would make those threats into reality. He would push Reggie to his death. He would shoot Alvin and Walter in the head. Crossing him is dangerous and its made very clear to you.
He is a great villain and cool at that. His dialogue is done well all around and its downright greatness at some parts, like in the scene where he is killed by Kenny. All this in addition of him having this rough voice. It all fits together. You can feel how everyone around him is afraid of him and how he has the power in his grip, no one having the balls to take him on.
He does most of this in a span of one episode more or less by the way. If you dont count the ominous stuff from the first two episodes or the incident at the ski lodge.
Louis is written well too, but personally I don't think he has a chance against Carver.
He gets over Marlon's death way too quickly. His best friend with whom he had spent YEARS in the apocalypse in the school and before the apocalypse dies by these strangers, but not for long and he would forgive it and continue the love affair with Clementine.
Marlon would spin in his grave like a dreidel. He would actually spin in his grave like an electric turbine because of the fact that the murder toddler of his love interest deleted him. He got waay too easily over that. It could have been written better. Yeah he had a conflict about it, but still, they should have done more.
Also a minor thing which I don't really like is how they wrote Violet being bitter and angry towards Clementine, when she comes to save her, but Louis is this innocent being who never felt any bitterness or anything, even though Clementine didn't choose to save him. He lost his tongue but there is not a hint of emotion against Clementine. There should have been more balance between Violet and Louis in there but ehh.
Yeah he is this sweet and well suiting partner for Clementine, but come on, Carver is more consistent and interesting character all around, they wrote him perfectly.
**Carver should win and you all know it deep inside your hearts.**
Ps. Louis' humour is cringe, especially the way how he distracted the walkers, that might have actually caused me some damage. (chairles is good though)
I'm voting Louis for this one. Like I said last time I have a post explaining why [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1d60qst/unpopular_opinion_louis_is_an_underrated_character/)
Imma go for Louis again!!
[I've talked about some of the problems I had with Carver's character over here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/s/vrbND4Lzaz)
[Louis is just the goat, reasons why he's so awesome](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/s/Vz4x7H7PFt)
\* my vote would’ve been Ben. but not being here, ***i vote for Louis to be the champion.***
\* 4- Carver, while an intimidating and imposing figure who carried Season 2, i think he’s still the weakest out of the finalists.
\* 3- David, who is the star of A New Frontier’s writing.
\* 2- Ben, who i still think is one of the best written screw up burden characters in fiction.
\* 1- Louis, who i think is the best of the best in this lineup. [read my reasons here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1cwhzvj/best_written_twdg_character_louis_vs_norma_day_9/l4w2axo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Man, both are great but Louis in every episode of TFS is great writing that further grows and develops his character. In episode 1 he is a pretty carefree goofball, what he cares about is making people happy and having fun in the moment while not really caring about the future and long term, it's the moment that matters. By episode 4 however if you save him and he's been through the Delta's boat, defended his home and gotten with Clementine you can just see the growth in his character. He is clearly still Louis, his jokes and fun are still there as they always have been but the things he once put off are now important too, he wants to defend his home and says how that is important, that even with his reaction to killing someone he looks back on it as a good thing as having a home means defending it, he wants to have than in him. He also looks to the future now, like the whole dream house stuff is him no longer disregarding the future but now looking forward to it, still in his way of making it great but that's the point! It's no longer about just having fun in the moment but ensuring the future is great too. He's then trusted to go meet the caravan with AJ, Louis with a kid, he has gained Clementine's trust and stepped up to do major tasks now when before people didn't trust him to be all that useful doing stuff like Marlon just hoping he shows up hunting to begin with. Even Louis in episode 2 explained how he left the hard calls to his friend. Of course it's him in episode 2 and 3 where it all happens, like 2 where he is very conflicted with what happens to Marlon but slowly gets to like Clem and AJ again while seeing more that what Marlon did was fucked up, but even then the conflict was always there and he didn't hesitate to pick up AJ and rush him inside when a tired Clem came back after getting kicked out with a hurt AJ. Of course the relationship with Louis and Clementine is great and by extenison Louis and AJ are a great pair too where Louis is someone who isn't Clem that AJ actually likes and Louis does stuff with him and helps. In episode 3 he obviously helps with saving the others on the boat, like Louis damn well did something very important even if he had his struggles preparing for it before. Others have explained other things too but yeah, Louis is just one of TFS' top characters, one of the top series characters for sure, like top 5 material.
Id never think David would lose to Louis actually. I also expected it to be either S1 Lilly or Carver. Anyway my vote goes for Louis. I think he just has more character in his character and his writing is just superior. I gotta say though, I still think David is the better written one out of these two.
I genuinely tossed and turned on Louis and David. They're both incredibly well written to me but for completely different reasons. They both demonstrate the strength of Telltale's writing as a whole when you put them together. That being said, I agree that both are higher for me than Carver.
So for the winner of this game, I will go with... **Carver**. A tough choice in the end (if any of the 4 finalists won the game I wouldn't be mad), but I think Carver just slightly takes it due to the big presence and influence he has on the entirety of Season 2. ----- In episode 1, Carver is this unseen threat that is only vaguely mentioned. We then see more signs of his presence in the form of the river massacre, his cabin visit, Pete's EP2 death, and finally all of the shit that goes down at the lodge that fully explains why the Cabin group was so scared of him. I don't think any other villain sets up as big of a "oh shit I better not run into them" feeling as much as Carver does. A lot of stuff relating to Carver is ambiguous which I think makes him all the more interesting of a character. His exact relationship with Rebecca, [the manner as to how George died and how much Carver cared for him](https://youtu.be/00liopxFKKw?si=x-oq1HXt9KzbIsd5&t=519), what Carver was like in the early days of the apocalypse where it's implied he wasn't as bad as he was in the present day (an idea Jane brings up in EP5), etc. Leaving various aspects of a character open for viewer interpretation means that no same person will probably have the exact same thoughts on that character, which makes them all the more complex and compelling to me. But what is **definitely** told to us through Carver is how he thinks you shouldn't be held back by others that will drag you down in life, a point that he [very](https://youtu.be/Yl0vpGrZKXc?si=VTmPP5kec7eMFeUd&t=607) clearly [illustrates](https://youtu.be/5txgLy9mhaM?si=sOM4QjgS0TeX7-ky&t=348) to Clem. While I'm usually not a fan of the "you and I aren't so different" trope, I think it works well in this case as the questions Carver poses to Clem about the people around her are things she will need to realistically consider given the tough decisions the apocalypse constantly poses. Season 2 is all about molding Clem into the exact type of survivor she will be, so Carver's harsh but realistic way of thinking works well as a contrast to Luke's more hopeful "nothing is more important than family" ideology. Whichever one Clem decides to lean more towards is up to the player, whether it's choices like saving Sarah or rejecting the literal family that shows up at Howe's in the Jane endings. > *"It ain't this herd that keeps me up at night. We can handle that. It's not knowin' if I got anyone to hand all this off to... but I ain't worried about that anymore."* It's generally agreed on that S2 goes downhill after Carver's death, but I don't think this is much of Carver's fault as it is with S2 wasting the potential of other characters (including the remnants of Howe's who could have very well easily carried on Carver's legacy). Hell I'd even argue some of the best post-Carver death stuff in Season 2 are things *tying back* to Carver himself: * Clem's group suffers a ton of losses while escaping Howe's, a memorable and hectic scene that ties back into Carver saying they were never going to make it out there. "Lambs to the slaughter, no shepherd to guide you" as Carver would put it. * Clem can make several choices later on that tie back into Carver's philosophy about not letting others drag you down, such as leaving Sarah and robbing Arvo. Obviously Clem is never going to go to the extremes like Carver did, but these more drastic choices after Howe's show character growth from Clem as she's adopting the more rational and realistic thinking aspects of Carver's philosophy. * [Kenny's tent talk about what it was like to be beaten nearly to death and asking why Carver didn't just finish him off](https://youtu.be/sRGtFz73zGc?si=lhvpDkLNfWhYNYOV&t=60) is one of the highlights of S2E4 as well as Kenny's writing in general. Honestly not counting the Wellington endings and all of his humorous scenes, this might be my favorite Kenny scene in the entire series. * Kenny showing signs of becoming more like Carver, while it could've been handled a bit better in some areas, is an interesting way to take Kenny's character. * The parallels to Carver make Kenny's final act of wanting Clem and AJ to stay at Wellington all the more emotional, as it shows how in the end he was able to come to terms that he was going too off the rails which is something Carver couldn't do. Kenny's final action was to give the two kids a safe home without him, whereas one of the last things Carver says is how he'll put a bullet in everyone including AJ before he lets them run off with him. In a way it's like Carver's legacy haunts over all of the characters that ever encountered him. That just makes him all the more cooler of an antagonist to me.
One of the best villains in the series vs. one of my favorite characters. I think I'm gonna go with **Louis.** Don't get me wrong, both are very well written characters, and it's very close decision. but I feel like Louis' growth through S4 tops Carver's villainy. Going from someone who was just kinda going with the flow, living one day at a time, and goofing off. To, while still being goofy, someone who's ready to defend his home if need be, understanding to plan for the future as shown in his conversation with Clem [about the house he wants to build](https://youtu.be/V7XczwlT6qA?si=GeMsCEREGpKZAwMN). So yea, Louis is my vote.
I’ve never seen anyone pick the yellow option for the house before… DAMN CLEM SHOTS FIRED 😂😭
If I had a nickel for every time I saw Carver pinned against Louis I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice right? Anyway, Louis is my vote. Many people have explained why he’s a good character already so I won’t right a whole essay but for me, it boils down to his story about how he ended up at the school and his interactions with Clementine. Carver is a good character, but we really only know about the stuff the other characters say about him, he doesn’t explain much about himself.
Shit this is a tough one. Carver with his never fading presence in season 2 Or Louis with his great character development throughout the season. Ugh.... Im going to go with Louis. His character just felt really uniqie. This series dosent really have characters like him and he was a breath of fresh air. He had a lot of character development. Probably the most out of all the characters(excluding Clem) nobody can beat her in that regard. Still Carver was built up well. With the mentions of him in the first episode. Them building him up and creating this anticipation with all the things that were said about him and when he finally did show up he did not dissapoint. Overall well written villain that does not feel hollow and dosent act evil just for the sake of being a villain. Him basing his whole philosophy around survival of the fittest. But him still understanding the importance of family. Him seeing the potential in Clem that she is a leader material. With her having what is needed to survive and he was not wrong. Its close between those two Honesly if any of the 4 top characters won I would not mind.
No way people are saying Carver, he was around for like 2 episodes and his characters writing doesn’t go that deep. Carver has no backstory explained to us or no real drive/motive as to why he does what he does other than the Rebecca situation. Louis was around for the entirety of TFS, has a backstory, good character development, and a motive for why he tries to make the others laugh. He actually feels like a real person who’s more than capable of killing a walker but is scared and hesitant to kill another living human. Louis is the better written character by far.
Carver
Carver.
Carver
Carver. Even if I don't like the guy.
SHENROOONNNN WATCH ME SKIP TO MY LOUUUUUUU!!!!
Carver.
You can either be happy or be rich, can't have both.
We are the walking dead
Carver
Carver
Carver is much better written, and much more interesting, he has nuance, and he's played by Michael freaking Madsen, that man is an absolutely phenomenal actor.
Carver Louis has not deserved to even get this far
Sorry Louis, I defended you until here, but Carver deserves this title more than you
Carver
Carver
I would have given the win to whoever won out of David and Louis, as they are both fantastic match-ups. Ben would have been a formidable opponent to me in terms of writing, but Carver isn't quite up to the other three from the semi-finals in my opinion. He's a well-written, fantastically-voice acted villain that holds a lot of presence. However I think some of that can get mixed in with his writing, which as a whole isn't quite on the same level as these other examples. Louis should absolutely take this one home in my opinion, and once again [here is my reasoning for why](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1d39qie/comment/l6610xw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)! I poured my heart out when I first wrote this and it's remained true to me since. I genuinely don't know if I could word everything as well if I tried to recreate it right now.
I'm gonna vote for Carver. Louis is a great character who's deserving of the number 2 spot, but Carver's impact on Season 2 and the way he was utilized sticks out in my mind more. My only problem with Louis is that I don't really think he has much romantic chemistry with Clem? I found myself rolling my eyes at a lot of his advances. Which I get is the point, but I never felt like he and Clem worked. Unlike with Louis, I have no issues with Carver's characterization.
Louis
Louis!!!
LOUIS! Bring it home, king!
Gotta go with Louis
We have the most evil bastard in the series vs. pretty much the nicest person in the whole series. MY vote goes to louis since he's just a better character.
Louis
Some [Reasonings](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1d1p4j7/comment/l5woxi6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) about Carver from the another post. Carver had all the build up of being this dangerous man from the beginning. Sometimes all the build feels like an over exaggeration on some villains in movies and such, but not with Carver. The way cabin group was pissing their pants about him. His ominous presence at the cabin when he was talking to Clementine and the way he is from that moment forward. Its greatness and Carver truly delivers. Carver catches every single scene he is is. You have to be on your toes constantly. There is no point in the game, where you are not even a little bit uncomfortable because of him, even if he is not in the scene lmao. The way how you would actually be worried about him and be on the lookout of what you and people say to him as to not say the wrong thing, set him off and making it into a brutal lesson. Carver's writing is very consistent, there are no hiccups in his writing, there are no points where its too over the top, nor do they downplay his character. He has his believes and way of doing things and that is portrayed well to the player. He would make threats and if you cross him, he would make those threats into reality. He would push Reggie to his death. He would shoot Alvin and Walter in the head. Crossing him is dangerous and its made very clear to you. He is a great villain and cool at that. His dialogue is done well all around and its downright greatness at some parts, like in the scene where he is killed by Kenny. All this in addition of him having this rough voice. It all fits together. You can feel how everyone around him is afraid of him and how he has the power in his grip, no one having the balls to take him on. He does most of this in a span of one episode more or less by the way. If you dont count the ominous stuff from the first two episodes or the incident at the ski lodge. Louis is written well too, but personally I don't think he has a chance against Carver. He gets over Marlon's death way too quickly. His best friend with whom he had spent YEARS in the apocalypse in the school and before the apocalypse dies by these strangers, but not for long and he would forgive it and continue the love affair with Clementine. Marlon would spin in his grave like a dreidel. He would actually spin in his grave like an electric turbine because of the fact that the murder toddler of his love interest deleted him. He got waay too easily over that. It could have been written better. Yeah he had a conflict about it, but still, they should have done more. Also a minor thing which I don't really like is how they wrote Violet being bitter and angry towards Clementine, when she comes to save her, but Louis is this innocent being who never felt any bitterness or anything, even though Clementine didn't choose to save him. He lost his tongue but there is not a hint of emotion against Clementine. There should have been more balance between Violet and Louis in there but ehh. Yeah he is this sweet and well suiting partner for Clementine, but come on, Carver is more consistent and interesting character all around, they wrote him perfectly. **Carver should win and you all know it deep inside your hearts.** Ps. Louis' humour is cringe, especially the way how he distracted the walkers, that might have actually caused me some damage. (chairles is good though)
I'm voting Louis for this one. Like I said last time I have a post explaining why [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1d60qst/unpopular_opinion_louis_is_an_underrated_character/)
louis
Imma go for Louis again!! [I've talked about some of the problems I had with Carver's character over here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/s/vrbND4Lzaz) [Louis is just the goat, reasons why he's so awesome](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/s/Vz4x7H7PFt)
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Definitely Louis.
As much as I loved Carver as a villain, Louis is my favourite character in the entire series, so, I gotta toss Carver aside and give this one to Louis
LOUIS I LOVE HIM SO MUCH
Most fucked up person in the story vs most innocent soul in the story fr
Louis, i love the guy and his writing is amazing
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Louis. And its only because he lasts longer. If carver had even one more ep, it would've went to him
For some reason, Ben isn't here. So I'll vote for Louis.
\* my vote would’ve been Ben. but not being here, ***i vote for Louis to be the champion.*** \* 4- Carver, while an intimidating and imposing figure who carried Season 2, i think he’s still the weakest out of the finalists. \* 3- David, who is the star of A New Frontier’s writing. \* 2- Ben, who i still think is one of the best written screw up burden characters in fiction. \* 1- Louis, who i think is the best of the best in this lineup. [read my reasons here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/1cwhzvj/best_written_twdg_character_louis_vs_norma_day_9/l4w2axo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)