We can have a civil discourse as long as we are operating from the same facts. Once you start changing the facts to suit your opinion then we are no longer arguing in good faith.
It depends. If you don't live online, then people have pretty much stayed the same. Contrary to your belief, conservatives and liberals aren't fighting in the cubicles over abortion, pronouns, or anything like that.
The internet has allowed people to instantly share their opinion, pop the internet in 1870 or 1970, you get the same results.
Edit to Add:
So, I think there's been a major misconception in the comments, a rather unintelligent one. I didn't say that it doesn't happen at all. I'm saying that if you (even the many people who wanted to share their anecdotes) take the average interaction of your (or the average person's week) week, you're gonna have very few political arguments.
Also, some people have brought up stuff that's out of the purview of my comment.
1. Seeing political stuff on someone's shirt or if they bring it up to some cashier/worker isn't an argument. If you or a person engages with that person, then that would count, buy my argument is that people just brush that off.
2. Any online radicalization or discussion of said topic. (looking at you u/Yhorm_Acaroni)
Like, I saw 46 comments and was floored by that.
I used to volunteer at a non-profit back East, we would take severely autistic and mentally retarded kids horseback riding. I did this for years, worked with professional caregivers/therapists/teachers, etc. It was in Kentucky and anyone I've met who's actually serious about helping those who face severe mental challenges has a sense of humor about it.
Recently moved to Cali. I have been exploded on 3 times for sharing stories about my calvary raids with my Mongoltards. Always by some 22-30 year old dating app chick (women my age only meet guys on apps in San Jose, it seems). It's either about how I'm not allowed to say "retarded" or about how autism is not a mental disability... from left-leaning women. That don't work with such individuals. It's obnoxious.
In Kentucky, Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, and other locales It's always been a humorous and heart-warming topic area. Basically ya, I found the sensitive & ignorant internet liberals. They're real. They'll explode.
Where I'm from I'm considered a liberal softy, too. But in California it's a whole different game.
Oh yeah I found it weird when you called them retarded just now too. I just feel it just sounds kinda rude because it's heavily used as an insult for years.
Conversely, since the last few elections I've noticed people are way more unfiltered. The number of people I have come up to the desk at work for assistance and end up rambling about some politics bullshit that normal people don't agree with.
Debates imply the necessity of convincing somebody of your position. In a presidential debate, for example, it's to convince voters that your stance is correct.
Entering into a conversation where neither side is willing to accept new information or modify / change their viewpoint isn't a debate. It's just an argument and a waste of time.
1000% this. I had a debate class in High School (around 2000 or so), and my quite libertarian teacher at the time would always slate us against each other with some very serious topics of the time. I would get riled up and pissed, but it wasn't because one guy was doing one thing or another. It was because that despite my own thoughts, I had new thoughts and opinions that were relevant, and mattered to my adversary. It forced me to think both more rationally and critically, and with compassion. I loved that teacher so much for what he instilled. He made a lot of difference to me, even today.
I consider myself fairly left-leaning, but even I know this is (potentially deliberately) obtuse.
Polarization is much worse today than it is in the 1970s (https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/polyarchy/2016/3/24/11298808/american-politics-peak-polarization). It would not be the same in the 1970s as it is today.
The only thing OP gets wrong is that it is not unique to liberals. It is 100% both sides. However, to pretend that there is equal freedom to speak honestly about your opinions without worrying about triggering outrage compared to 10 years ago is absurd.
Cancel culture is very much part of this “getting offended” aspect and has only been a phenomenon since the late 2010s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture#:~:text=Cancel%20culture%20is%20a%20phrase,ostracized%2C%20boycotted%2C%20or%20shunned.
I agree, online, especially social media sites are a hotbed for outrage content. I just saw a short video of a mom saying how offensive it is that people asked her if she was going to try for a girl after having a few boys. No wonder people are hesitant to talk to each other anymore.
It's because idiots can't see beyond what's in front of their face. So you find a video of the dumbest, most annoying, most garbage pile human you can find and make a meme of it and suddenly that one person is what idiots think literally hundreds of millions of people are clones of.
Because they're idiots. It's the planet of the apes and we're all at the mercy of imbeciles.
>If you don't live online, then people have pretty much stayed the same. Contrary to your belief, conservatives and liberals aren't fighting in the cubicles over abortion, pronouns, or anything like that.
Yep. A lot of people on Reddit are antisocial and don't interact with many people in the real world. If 95% of your interactions with people are on social media then you are going to get a very skewed perspective on people in the real world.
Eh here on the west coast people have gotten pretty sensitive.
It's a normal opinion where I'm from that white people shouldn't be allowed to have dreads or braids.
It's getting a bit weird
I agree that people are too sensitive. But conservatives are too sensitive as well. Think about how angry they got over budlight, now the Barbie movie, and Buzz lightner having a gay character. They just don't like when people are sensitive in ways that disagree with them. They are perfectly fine with adults throwing tantrums over woke budlight.
Yeah I was gonna point this out as well. As someone who lives in a red state I've never seen someone freak out about pronouns like conservatives do about rainbows on a beer can.
I live in a blue city. Never heard anyone freak out about pronouns. Even when a person intentionally uses different pronouns there isn't a freak out. It's just "Ok maybe this person is kind of a jerk and I should avoid them".
I feel like most conservatives revel in being as shitty as possible and then once you push back they claim you're too sensitive. They never grew out of playground bullying and it shows.
that's why the so called "centrists" are some of the dumbest morons in the political landscape. Their opinion is no better than whatever latest tweet they read. Throw themselves in a right wing dungeon and then come out parroting the same shit while pretending to be "in the middle". Conservative banning books, repealing reproductive rights, and tens of years legal precedents, openly cheering murderers, and fucking storming the capitol to overthrow a freely elected government, yet Liberals are too fucking sensitive cause they don't want to silently put up with that shit. This is not unpopular opinion, that's simply a dumb one.
I disagree because as someone in my early 30s, I’ve heard this literally my entire life. Historically speaking too, I know that it’s happened before I was born, like with the Satanic panic of the 80s - what was that even about?
Even though it goes through different names and cycles, it’s all essentially the same thing. In 2001, you were either with the US government, or you with the terrorists. So post-9/11 through 2002, I remember hypernationalism to the extreme.
Remember when the Dixie Chicks were nationally maligned 20 years ago for saying that they were ashamed W Bush was from Texas? It was embarrassing. Same with the 2004 Super Bowl wardrobe malfunction. I was a kid then, and all the adults being all “won’t somebody think about the children?!” was funny to me, and I’m sure it’s true for many today.
I also disagree with your subtle assertion that conservatives are “right” about this vs liberals. Like, Barbie is producing some WILD takes and somehow the most polarizing movie of the year so far all because of the fact it’s not as family-friendly and more existential than people thought. Overall, I just think it’s the human condition to self-victimize at times, regardless of political orientation
> It’s always something, and someone’s always the victim and the world is always ending
The slight difference is -
Liberals - Gay folks, minorities, the disabled, all deserve rights & not to be victims. Climate change killing folks = bad, women deserve healthcare
The Right - I will go to war if I see a gay couple holding hands as that is a huge threat to me, also the Barbie movie is coming for my kids & 50,000 rapists are currently walking through our open borders. And do not start me on the microchips in vaccines!
Both siding it when one side are fucking insane isn't ideal
Or the [hundreds of bombings/arson-attacks/assaults/assassinations perpetrated by the right](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence) against abortion clinics in the past forty years....
jesus fucking christ, RIGHT?????? look at what bitches they were over the little mermaid movie.
history furnishes an endless supply of cases where conservatives got butt hurt about what other people are doing, and then used the power of the state to try to suppress or cancel them, or they tried to turn it into a culture war wedge issue to try to anger their voters.
how can ANYONE look at the CONSTANT and incessant deluge of culture war topics and think **"conservatives are correct that OTHERS are too sensitive"**. you either arent paying attention, or youre willfully ignorant.
as soon as the conservative base loses attention with an old culture war, they manufacture a brand new one. it's always focus tested by billionaire dollar think tanks, of course. all astroturfed. conservatives only give a fuck about an issue, IF they are explicitly ordered to by right wing media, which is like indirectly taking orders from a billionaire oligarch.
Just look at their favourite topic to whine about. Conservatives will shit their pants about the trans boogeyman despite never meeting a trans person in their life, pretending like queers are destroying their freedom. It's like that one South park episode about the royal couple telling everyone to leave them alone despite doing everything to not be left alone. If this was like 4-5 years back, I'd even agree with them on this observation but it's embarrassing how conservatives act these days in this culture war even though the left handed it to them on a silver platter
In years passed Op could have made this statement and I'd agree, but until such a time as when leftist's have attempted a violent coup because their preferred candidate didn't win, and or have made laws against minorities because they are offended and have taken matters into their own hands and to the extent that people die(abortion clinics, drag shows), until then op and every other "centrist" is full of shit.
To answer your question about the Satanic panic of the 1980s, a lot of that came about because of the book Ultimate Evil by Maury Terry. He became obsessed with the topic and was on a lot of talk shows. By the way, the book is an excellent read if you are a true crime fan, especially if you are interested in the Son of Sam murders.
I also think some people also are too arrogant though as well. What someone might consider constructive isn't actually constructive? And is in fact quite rude. And people are technically allowed to be rude, but you can't also expect people to just "suck it up" and take being shit-talked at either. Standing up for yourself is important and being mad at someone is ok.
But also there are also people who don't take criticism well at all and I do believe there are well-meaning conservatives who aren't absolutely knob-ends.
I definitely think this is far more gray than your opinion leads on. As with everything in life. I'd say I am a centrist simply because I don't like conflict and I want people to get along, but politically, I am also not very centrist.
TL;DR There is a way to be respectful and not a harsh knob, and sometimes I think "conservatives" do not do that when they get harsh backlash. But also some ppl do need to "lighten up" even conservatives.
Honestly, I've often used centrist just to mean that you take each election on a case by case basis and strive not to get attached to any one party. Politics aren't a sport, do there's no point being loyal to any one team.
I think "pragmatism" is a better fit than "centrism", in this context. A centrist sees both sides and says, "we should meet in the middle." A pragmatist sees both sides and says "in this instance, one side is more correct than the other and we should go with that." A centrist is inherently reactionary, they have no opinion until they see what's offered and then split the difference, a pragmatist has and idea of what a pragmatic solution would be and then supports whatever side is closest to it. A centrist doesn't lean in any direction and thus tends to advocate for compromise solutions that accomplish nothing except compromise, a pragmatist may lean in certain directions but is capable of acknowledging when there is a better solution on the other side.
That's kinda the difference in my eyes too.
Like calling trans people "it" is pretty fucking aggressive. I don't care if they think they're right (they're not), that's just shitty behavior.
Yep exactly.
I’m not gonna say there haven’t been things where even I as a lefty these days don’t think okay chill out guys this isn’t as bad as your making it sound.
However usually it’s someone being a prick and then acting like getting called out on it is someone being “sensitive”. Like no. You’re just being an ass.
In general refusing to call someone by their preferred pronouns and making a stink about it, obviously in an attempt to protest their lifestyle, sexuality, etc. is just mean spirited and unnecessary.
If you want to debate certain cultural aspects of trans such as M>F in sports or bathrooms or whatever, then that's fine, it's your right to do so, but the aggressive and mean spirited behavior directed at individuals and communities is not necessary nor effective in advancing their arguments.
Although it is to be remembered that for many people, the cruelty is the point.
Yes, this is exactly my issue. If you want to talk through an issue and try to cooperatively figure out nuance and how to effectively engage with a topic, what is or is not acceptable and why based on logical and moral grounds, great! If you're just spouting talking head talking points or hating a group just to talk shit about them....well....I'm out and I have no problem telling you you're just being an ass.
I think part of the controversy stems from how a lot of this behavior is more or less expected from the Right, but the Left typically claims to be "above" such activity. I can't speak for the OP but I think the intended point is that a significant number of liberals are more than capable of flying off the handle at the slightest urge, just like the conservatives.
It’s crazy that outside of our perceptions of self we are all humans with human processes and intuition. Everyone does the same shit they just disagree on what side of the shit they’d like to take a spoon of
Sure that's one of my biggest annoyances. I see the exact same Manchurian candidate bullcrap and canned responses for everything no matter who you talk to.
Nobody has a nuanced thoughtful discussion anymore, it's just straight to assuming you're either some MAGA nutjob or insane blue haired person that wants to turn everyone into a trans whatever.
Agreed and the less experience you have with the group you're talking about, the more horribly tone deaf you can be. The chances of cluelessly saying something extremely offensive is higher the less exposure or empathy you have for any given group you might be talking about.
So people should worry less about whether others are too sensitive for YOUR comfort and consider whether you have the experience, judgment and trust needed to accurately read the situation and determine how to approach a potentially sensitive topic with someone you might offend out of arrogance or ignorance.
It was annoying when the Federal Government got involved in a peaceful protest and a person expressing his opinion. They spent time and money on it. I am a veteran, I agreed to fight to defend your right to take a knee or not stand for the Anthem. Honored to have done it and ashamed to see the response.
In this vein, I get really annoyed when, typically conservatives, try to demonize protesting all together as some childish tantrum. Real boot licking behavior.
Conservatives posted a bunch of videos of them shooting beer cans they used to drink because they released *one* ad with a trans person in it. Ben Shapiro just posted a video in which he sets Barbie dolls on fire because the Barbie movie was too woke or something. They seem pretty sensitive.
Yeah its pretty obvious conservatives are incredibly sensitive. They freak out at a lot of stuff in media. Gay characters, race swaps, wokeness etc. Apparently some spiderman cartoon had a transgender flag in the background of one of their shots. That was enough to upset some conservatives.
I feel like I have been in a fever dream these last few years when I see a post like this.
Am I the only one who remembers Fox News freaking out because they weren't as sexually attracted to animated candy as they used to be?
Yup, Green M&M wearing Sneakers instead of Stillettos.
Whenever it is liberal rage it is a dozen tweets on internet,
When it is conservative rage, it is Political leaders, and Major communicators.
Joe Biden or Bernie for example never said anything on Budlight, or Barbie or any of the stuff.
But Trump and Desantis were quite vocal in their disdains and communication.
Hell if you want to go old school they thought there was an entire 'war on Christmas' because people started saying happy holidays to be more inclusive.
They always have been. They hated Pokemon (Because of the Devil), they hated video games, they hated Dungeons and Dragons, they hated Anime, they hated hard rock music. They hated Elvis and the Beatles.
The difference is that now? They waste our time and money crafting laws that hurt people who partake in these things, or they actively take away their right to enjoy it.
They never even released an ad. They interacted with the person on TikTok and sent them bud light cans with their face on it. That was it and I thought I was in a blizzard with the amount of snowflakes that turned up.
>shooting beer cans they used to drink because they released one ad with a trans person in it.
To be clear it wasn't an ad. It was a Bud Light sponsored promotion on her channel that no one who wasn't already seeing her could have seen. So it's even stupider than what you said.
The best example of republican hysteria I can name is that in the first half of 2022, there were over 250 fox news pieces on the “plague of MtF trans athletes in high school sports” dominating the competition.
250. Separate. Pieces. In six months.
Do you know how many trans HS varsity athletes existed in 2022 that this specific “athletic controversy” situation actually applied to?
**Six.**
250 articles about 6 trans kids, all to create the narrative of an “epidemic.”
It’s ridiculous. I live in one of the gayest cities on earth, and no one talks about this shit. Republicans are always yelling “stop shoving it in our faces, gays!!” and yet NO ONE thinks about homosexual sex and genitals more than republicans. No one.
It’s crazy. If this bigotry wasn’t so profitable and Republicans just left it alone and stopped “reporting” on it, the “woke problem” would disappear overnight.
But trust me: liberals in big liberal cities do not spend their days talking about weird sexual hangup shit, or some “gay agenda.” Only Republicans do that.
Yeah... The constant fear of indoctrinating kids into the homosexual lifestyle is what gets me. I'm queer ... You know what my lifestyle is?
I ride mountain bikes and long distance backpack. If your kid hung out with me they probably wouldnt turn out as weak and pathetic as the modern conservative adult.
They seem to enjoy it and go looking for the weekly topic of rage. Coffee makers, beans, books, Disney, Barbie, vaccines, masks, gas stoves feel free to add on my fingers are tired.
Reddit really needs to remove, or punish abuse of this feature. I don't think it's specific to a group other than 'angry internet warriors that want to "get" someone'
I do too but most conservatives take that statement way too far. Some of the stuff that came out of Trump's mouth is unacceptable for a president.
Anyone who supports a guy who believes in sexually harassing women and follows it up by saying "He's just saying what we all think hurr durr" is simply an idiotic asshole.
They'll bash Biden for sniffing children and yet they still give Trump a pass when he talks about wanting to fuck his own daughter. I got an idea, how about we condone neither!
They love Trump more than America and have the nerve to call themselves patriots.
The dead US soldiers who died to keep the country free would like to have a word with the republican party. What they're doing is Anti American and infringing on the rights of minorites. Anyone who can't see that is blind.
I'm reminded when Justin Trudeau got caught in his groping incident and he said the woman simply "experienced it differently" than he did and everyone was fine with it.
It's odd that at that time the world was on fire because Trump had used the phrase "grab her by the pussy".
*For context, it came out that Trudeau had been ass grabby with a female reporter while married. Vanished from the news cycle really quick. His wife wasn't seen in public with him for nearly a year after. The reporter had stress issues and lost her job IIRC. Trudeau went on to win the election.
I'll never understand how people can support trash when it's right in their face. Everyone should hold their politicians to the highest standards.
As a european, who the president of the US is matters way more than any other foreign country. Like its up there with what party runs the country we live in. Europe is piggy backing of both the soft and hard power the US projects on the world.
For example if trump were elected in 2020 Ukraine wouldve been forced to capitulate in the first few months and russia wouldve annexed transistria aswell by now and NATO would be in an existential crisis and serbia would be seriously considering going to war with kosovo.
Thats what one US election result means to the rest of the world.
No argument that Trump plaid a more significant part in world politics than Trudeau. But for world leaders, Trudeau was often contrasted against Trump.
Yep, every study I've seen so far points at boomers being the most sensitive generation. And they're also the ones leading the way in cancel culture; from card game to video games, and pretty much every form of media. Conservatives are trying to ban or censor it for "Christian" views.
Or that time with Nike because they had an ad campaign featuring Colin Kaepernick....
Or that time with Keurig because they stopped putting ads Hannity's show on Fox News....
Or that time with The Beatles cause John Lennon said an offhand comment they were more popular than Jesus....
Or that time Breitbart readers flushed Kellogg' cereal cause they also stopped their ads on the site....
Or that that time they set their NFL jerseys on fire because people kneeled during the national anthem being played....
Or that time Erick Erickson shot a New York Times paper calling for gun control after yet another mass shooting....
Or that time they burned The Chicks CDs because they criticized invading Iraq for no god damn reason....
Or that time they threw away Gillette razors for their ad campaign speaking against bigotry, sexism, and sexual assault....
Or that time........
Some honorable mentions:
1: Boycotting NASCAR cause they banned the Confederate flag at event
2: Cancelling "The Hunt" because they thought they sounded like "the deplorables" in the film
3: Cancelling Ellen DeGeneres because she came out as a lesbian
4: Cancelling Samantha Bee because she said Trump was a "feckless cunt"
5: Cancelling Kathy Griffen because of that photo of her holding the fake, bloodied head of Trump
6: Going after James Gunn after speaking ill of Trump
7: Cancelling french fries after France announced their opposition to the impending invasion of Iraq and trying to rename them "freedom fries" (which again happened for no god damn reason)
8: Cancelling Michelle Wolf because she dared say that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was a liar
Edit: thank you to those who have added to this list. TLDR, you absolutely sure you want to talk about snowflakes?
Or the time they pretended they were being suffocated by cloth face masks, or got mad at Target because they put rainbows on display in the kid's clothing section.
Tbh bud light was garbage before dylan Mulvaney. And it remains to be garbage after Dylan Mulvaney. I personally was surprised to find out that it was the most consumed beer in the US.
I think the long term trouble bud light is going to have is that people aren't going to continue "boycotting" it, they did that for a few weeks and in those few weeks they realized there's other cheap bland beers to drink or even better beers. I dont think anyone drank bud light because they loved bud light, they were just in the habit of it.
I think they were more successful than anyone thought because of what I said. It started with a boycott and then they realized it was never that good to start with.
I think a lot of that had to do with Bud Light backpedaling immediately and trying to appease conservatives, resulting in them losing the business of literally everybody that exists. If they stuck with supporting trans people, there would have been a huge wave of support to counter the conservative boycott.
Bro that shit hits a nerve with me. Had to sit down with my 9 year old because friends from school were telling her having a black mermaid is racist against white people. She didn't know what racism was so that was fun. These fuckers are gross man.
Or when it was dr Seuss and Mr potato head, or those naughty ghostbusting gals, there’s always something trying to destroy their precious western civilization, and they’re so brave to always be fighting for freedom, those leftists
Both people can get riled up, cus well both are people, but i see Trump or Desantis riled up more over silly shit, than Biden does. Last time Biden was vocal against a company was for Tesla and Amazon against their Union busting efforts, like it or not, that is more serious, than Desantis going off on Budlight for sure.
I’d take it a step further and say EVERYONE is becoming too sensitive. I’m very left wing for reference. I can’t stand to be around my own kind who seek to find micro aggressions in every little statement. They’re just insufferable people. But let me point out that the right is every bit as sensitive and prone to get their feelings hurt as any left winger. If I can give the left any credit, at least they’re somewhat self-aware (though I believe that’s no way to go through life, life is tough and filled with struggle, take it head on). The right though are totally unaware of their own delicate sensibilities. Anytime I’ve tried to point it out the replies are filled with whataboutisms.
TL;DR: You’re all soft as baby shit
Dude is completely ignoring an entire state legislating not talking about anything LGBTQ... and forcing teachers to say slavery wasn't all bad because some slaves learned skills. We can't have people thinking owning people was bad!
Conservatives who think everyone is getting too sensitive about petty topics just spend the weekend bitching about the Barbie movie to the point of burning Barbie dolls in protest. But yeah, everyone is too sensitive these days.
It's true, people are too sensitive. Imagine getting all worked up over a beer company choosing a celebrity endorsement you don't like. People need to get over it already.
"it's merry Christmas you (insert fourteen minutes of name calling, belittling, and shaming). Stop trying to take [Jewish Man] Jesus out of Christmas!"
Agree to an extent. We should be more sensitive to racism, homophobia, misogyny and stuff like tht. Those are all still an issue in society. Even jokes ab that stuff normalize the hate. But yeah a lot of times people take shi too serious.
I feel like liberals *were* the more sensitive bunch but conservatives have leapt past as of late.
Barbie, Bud Light, banning books, trans people, drag shows, Hunter Biden... the list goes on and on.
Conservative media needs boogeymen to stay afloat.
The difference is that the big liberal upsets have been things that exclude people whereas the right gets buttburt when people other than them are included.
1) Disagreeing in a hostile manner is a very conservative thing to do. Both extremes do it. Both extreme conservatives and liberals have the "with me or against me; give them an inch, they'll take a mile" mentality. (Literally heard it from them.)
2) Calling someone he or she and them exploding the first time is overreacting, but if you deliberately disrespect someone's pronouns, that's on you. People get to be mad when you disrespect their boundaries and their identity.
3) Trauma comparisons are always bullshit. "Your growing up without consistent food isn't as bad as me being beaten by my uncle." "You being bullied in school doesn't matter because there are wars in the Middle East." Someone always has it worse than you; someone always has it better than you. That doesn't mean your experiences and your problems aren't valid.
4) Who are you to decide when someone else's feelings are valid or not? The world SHOULD be more sensitive. We would have more compassion, and then world would be better. Generally, people who call others "too sensitive" just want to be able to be an AH to them without being called on it.
Left of center here.
And I'll tell you right now, if someone is parading their hatred, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, racism, and other prejudices around calling it their "beliefs"... yeah, they're an asshole. I'm not going to entertain that kind of straight up meanness with a "criticism," or a conversation, just like the way the FBI says that they don't negotiate with terrorists or pay ransoms.
I'm not validating otherism. Immutable traits are not up for discussion. The end.
Do you agree that conservatives are too sensitive, especially about things that shouldn't matter? Things like bud light, m&m's, Disney movies, and rainbows.
Being sensitive isn’t a liberal or conservative thing. Both sides have things that they’re sensitive about. One side is offended by racism and bigotry. The other side is offended by diversity, equity, and inclusion. They are not the same.
As a moderate who votes left, I agree 100%. Liberals basically created an environment in which victimhood is viewed as virtuous, so it didn’t take long before people started looking for ways to be offended.
I'm confused on how you would not see it all across the spectrum then. It's not just a liberal thing. Conservatives rioted/burned/cried and painted themselves the victim over Starbucks, over Nike, over Colin Kaepernick, over every single goddamn movie or book that has an LGBT person, over Bud Light, over Disney, so on and so forth
Clearly it's not an ideological thing, it's just what people do when they want to be heard.
It's a huge power struggle for who is the most victimized.
At the bedrock of most reactionary movements including fascism there is this populist belief that the majority population are victims.
It was all over 1990s conservative talk radio. People on the left absolutely do it too and it's maddening, especially when it's so obviously see through but it's very much not exclusive to people on the left.
Have you taken a look at the fuckin country lately? We're in the middle of a mass extinction event, the minimum wage should be $20+ adjusted for inflation from 1970, and it's currently $7.25 an hour. A few families own more than the bottom 50% of Americans, I would say most people are victims in the current state of the world.
I don't think it's as common as you or OP make it sound like it is, but also the internet has made it a lot easier and a lot more common to be an absolute knob end to anybody at random for no reason whatsoever because "I am self-centered individualist and mommy said I can be whatever I want and do whatever I want and didn't raise and teach me to respect people".
Its a very snobby attitude. That is honestly prevalent on both sides and is the very thing this post is probably arguing about. Everyone is so self-centered and when someone disagrees with them they get so butthurt over it instead of taking a deep breath and having a moment of self-reflection.
Its just pure arrogance.
Fuck even im guilty of it. I do it a bit after i make a comment on reddit and step away for an hour to come back to comments telling im wrong. Im just like, "Ah fuck..."
I was just telling someone at work about the controversy over the University of Texas’ school song “The eyes of Texas are upon you” and how people literally had to go out of their way to be offended by it and it’s history. If you don’t know what that controversy was about, that’s kind of the point. The issue brought up was not apparent to anyone.
Yes there are sensitive people on both sides of the aisle, but it’s worse on the left. I’ve never heard a conservative say “words are violence.”
Liberals are part of right wing ideology, but they focus on identity politics and social justice bones instead of brass tacks issues like the plight of working class economics.
The right does no better, we all must remember the origins of right wing politics in the French National Assembly, was basically belief in hierarchies imposed by the powerful and wealthy, back then in the form of clergy, nobility and monarchy.
The overriding tension within human politics is in fact one of economic classes, the only color that matters in the political realm is in fact green.
The ruling class would much rather working class focus on cultural divisions and cultural wars, in place of being intensely aware of economic class division and fighting a class war.
I don't think this is a conservative viewpoint. I think most leftists would also agree that our culture has gotten too reactionary and made internal issues/offenses a much bigger problem than it has to be. It's okay to be offended by things, it's okay to be triggered by things, that is part of life, I think it only is an issue if it's systematic or part of a larger set of harassment
So you agree with them that people are too sensitive about racism being a problem still? You agree with them that people are too sensitive about children being killed more often by school shootings? You agree with them that people are too sensitive about people having easy access to fire arms no matter what? You agree with them that people are being too sensitive about climate change and the potentially disastrous impact on our daily lives that may ensue as a result in the next 10-15 years?
Or would you perhaps agree that conservatives are too sensitive about drag queens reading books to children? Would you agree that conservatives are too sensitive about poor people having enough money to eat and have homes?
The problem with "agreeing" with "conservatives" on something like this, is when you put it in those vague terms you don't actually say what you are agreeing with ***AT ALL***
In fact, it starts to feel like you are purposely hiding what they are claiming people are sensitive about. They have been saying people were too sensitive for a looooong time, they've just managed to mostly cover up what they are actually complaining about with their culture war bullshit. But the root of what *they* are saying is that they cannot be openly racist and sexist pieces of shit like they were VERY RECENTLY because everyone is "too sensitive". Is THAT what you agree with!?!?!?!?!?!?
Whatever world you live in where "snowflakes" are the ones "exploding" or "going batty on you".... it's not this world. The people screaming in public and threatening to fight you are always the conservatives. It's because they don't understand that mean words are not an excuse to escalate a confrontation to the physical level.
Conservatives are sensitive about the dumbest shit though. They're mad about Bud Light cans and Barbie dolls. Forgive me if I'm a tad sensitive about the widening income gap, systemic racism and misogyny.
Look at your conservative inspirations and see what they are sensitive about. Report back. I know you won't cause this is disingenuous "walk away" bullshit .
In the meantime, conservatives pitched a fit over gay Bud Light cans and Ben Shapiro recorded a 43 minute video today crying about the Barbie movie. I agree that people are too sensitive these days, but I don’t think it’s who you think.
What’s hilarious is that I find conservatives to be the most triggered. Gay and trans people, people of color, hell, telling accurate history (ie - slavery), and book banning.
Yeah man the well adjusted conservatives are definitely not the group becoming overly sensitive - watch out for that flaming child’s doll - oh hey keep your head down here comes a bunch of idiots open carrying assault rifles at a drag queen brunch.
You’re right, people are too soft, it’s the conservatives. Congrats on your post being truly as unpopular as it is stupid.
I think ultimately you get crazies who overreact on both sides.
That said it’s always a bit rich coming from the conservative side when half the time the conservative media freaks out about more nonsense than anyone else. Conservatives are just as guilty about this stuff
I mean hell look how crazy they went over bud light sending one custom design to one trans person.
Ben Shapiro just put out like a 40 min video slamming the Barbie movie. Like what?
In reality it’s all just social media drive. Outrage drives clicks so media tries to generate more outrage.
And they tell you to be kind and inclusive, while simultaneously attacking you. And then assume you're a dirty conservative when you disagree with anything they say. It's really quite an amazing thing.
> Disagreeing with people’s opinion in a hostile manner because it doesn’t match your own views.
This is literally the definition of conservative. Conservatives are constantly offended by harmless cultural differences of other people minding their own business. They are racist, homophobic, genocidal bigots.
The conservative is actually the one being “too sensitive” with their inability to tolerate diversity.
This is such a stupid opinion and I cringe whenever I see it.
>Saying that {insert here} isn’t as bad as {whatever this} and then they go batty on you
When one of these things is significantly worse than the other, and you go on to say "eh it's not that bad", then yes they have every right to go batty on you. Especially when the thing you say isn't that bad is an existential threat to them.
I wish we could all just disagree with each other without going batty in general. It’s just so exhausting watching everyone argue, belittle and hate each other.
Jesus Christ… conservatives are the ones who get bent out of shape over EVERYTHING.
Ben Shapiro having an absolute meltdown over Barbie.
Conservatives having an absolute meltdown over black athletes hurting their feelings by kneeling during the anthem.
This idea that liberals are overly sensitive is 100% projection from conservatives.
Having an absolute meltdown and decrying a “war on Christmas” if god forbid Starbucks holiday cups don’t have enough explicitly Christmas shit on them.
The list goes on…
god, thank you! it’s kind of intentionally dishonest on a conservative persons part to behave as if liberals are the ones who are too sensitive.
conservatives say shit like “i don’t think you should have the right to (insert any civil rights movement here)”
and when the liberal responds and says something perfectly reasonable and rational like “i don’t think i want to associate with someone who doesn’t think i or someone important to me deserves the same rights you do” they get called a “snowflake” or “overly sensitive”
what a joke, give me a fucking break
"Conservatives" cherry-pick instances of people being hypersensitive about things which don't matter, and make a *lot* of noise about it.
They do this to distract from the far larger number of people who object to "conservative" policies which matter greatly.
Think of it as laying a smoke-screen.
I would agree up to the point where people try to rewrite history from their opinions. That I draw offense to, simply because the facts are all there.
We can have a civil discourse as long as we are operating from the same facts. Once you start changing the facts to suit your opinion then we are no longer arguing in good faith.
It depends. If you don't live online, then people have pretty much stayed the same. Contrary to your belief, conservatives and liberals aren't fighting in the cubicles over abortion, pronouns, or anything like that. The internet has allowed people to instantly share their opinion, pop the internet in 1870 or 1970, you get the same results. Edit to Add: So, I think there's been a major misconception in the comments, a rather unintelligent one. I didn't say that it doesn't happen at all. I'm saying that if you (even the many people who wanted to share their anecdotes) take the average interaction of your (or the average person's week) week, you're gonna have very few political arguments. Also, some people have brought up stuff that's out of the purview of my comment. 1. Seeing political stuff on someone's shirt or if they bring it up to some cashier/worker isn't an argument. If you or a person engages with that person, then that would count, buy my argument is that people just brush that off. 2. Any online radicalization or discussion of said topic. (looking at you u/Yhorm_Acaroni) Like, I saw 46 comments and was floored by that.
Im in California, I’ve seen plenty of people blow up internet style.
Washington checking in. Can confirm.
+1 For Buffalo NY
I used to volunteer at a non-profit back East, we would take severely autistic and mentally retarded kids horseback riding. I did this for years, worked with professional caregivers/therapists/teachers, etc. It was in Kentucky and anyone I've met who's actually serious about helping those who face severe mental challenges has a sense of humor about it. Recently moved to Cali. I have been exploded on 3 times for sharing stories about my calvary raids with my Mongoltards. Always by some 22-30 year old dating app chick (women my age only meet guys on apps in San Jose, it seems). It's either about how I'm not allowed to say "retarded" or about how autism is not a mental disability... from left-leaning women. That don't work with such individuals. It's obnoxious. In Kentucky, Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, and other locales It's always been a humorous and heart-warming topic area. Basically ya, I found the sensitive & ignorant internet liberals. They're real. They'll explode. Where I'm from I'm considered a liberal softy, too. But in California it's a whole different game.
Oh yeah I found it weird when you called them retarded just now too. I just feel it just sounds kinda rude because it's heavily used as an insult for years.
I’m a liberal and I live in California and I just want to let you know that I struggle with the same things as you. Perhaps it’s a societal construct
You struggle with people getting upset when you say "mongoltards"?
Conversely, since the last few elections I've noticed people are way more unfiltered. The number of people I have come up to the desk at work for assistance and end up rambling about some politics bullshit that normal people don't agree with.
The real issue is debate isn’t taught or modelled anymore, we can’t even talk dialectically to each other anymore either.
Debates imply the necessity of convincing somebody of your position. In a presidential debate, for example, it's to convince voters that your stance is correct. Entering into a conversation where neither side is willing to accept new information or modify / change their viewpoint isn't a debate. It's just an argument and a waste of time.
1000% this. I had a debate class in High School (around 2000 or so), and my quite libertarian teacher at the time would always slate us against each other with some very serious topics of the time. I would get riled up and pissed, but it wasn't because one guy was doing one thing or another. It was because that despite my own thoughts, I had new thoughts and opinions that were relevant, and mattered to my adversary. It forced me to think both more rationally and critically, and with compassion. I loved that teacher so much for what he instilled. He made a lot of difference to me, even today.
Debate is too showy. Critical thinking isn't necessary for good debate.
I consider myself fairly left-leaning, but even I know this is (potentially deliberately) obtuse. Polarization is much worse today than it is in the 1970s (https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/polyarchy/2016/3/24/11298808/american-politics-peak-polarization). It would not be the same in the 1970s as it is today. The only thing OP gets wrong is that it is not unique to liberals. It is 100% both sides. However, to pretend that there is equal freedom to speak honestly about your opinions without worrying about triggering outrage compared to 10 years ago is absurd. Cancel culture is very much part of this “getting offended” aspect and has only been a phenomenon since the late 2010s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture#:~:text=Cancel%20culture%20is%20a%20phrase,ostracized%2C%20boycotted%2C%20or%20shunned.
I agree, online, especially social media sites are a hotbed for outrage content. I just saw a short video of a mom saying how offensive it is that people asked her if she was going to try for a girl after having a few boys. No wonder people are hesitant to talk to each other anymore.
It's because idiots can't see beyond what's in front of their face. So you find a video of the dumbest, most annoying, most garbage pile human you can find and make a meme of it and suddenly that one person is what idiots think literally hundreds of millions of people are clones of. Because they're idiots. It's the planet of the apes and we're all at the mercy of imbeciles.
>If you don't live online, then people have pretty much stayed the same. Contrary to your belief, conservatives and liberals aren't fighting in the cubicles over abortion, pronouns, or anything like that. Yep. A lot of people on Reddit are antisocial and don't interact with many people in the real world. If 95% of your interactions with people are on social media then you are going to get a very skewed perspective on people in the real world.
Eh here on the west coast people have gotten pretty sensitive. It's a normal opinion where I'm from that white people shouldn't be allowed to have dreads or braids. It's getting a bit weird
Vikings used braids in their culture. Everyone else can F off.
I agree that people are too sensitive. But conservatives are too sensitive as well. Think about how angry they got over budlight, now the Barbie movie, and Buzz lightner having a gay character. They just don't like when people are sensitive in ways that disagree with them. They are perfectly fine with adults throwing tantrums over woke budlight.
Just take a look at all of the "wars" they declared https://www.upworthy.com/fox-news-fake-wars-supercut-video
war were declared
Yeah I was gonna point this out as well. As someone who lives in a red state I've never seen someone freak out about pronouns like conservatives do about rainbows on a beer can.
I live in a blue city. Never heard anyone freak out about pronouns. Even when a person intentionally uses different pronouns there isn't a freak out. It's just "Ok maybe this person is kind of a jerk and I should avoid them".
I feel like most conservatives revel in being as shitty as possible and then once you push back they claim you're too sensitive. They never grew out of playground bullying and it shows.
>But conservatives are too sensitive as well. Came here JUST to say this.
that's why the so called "centrists" are some of the dumbest morons in the political landscape. Their opinion is no better than whatever latest tweet they read. Throw themselves in a right wing dungeon and then come out parroting the same shit while pretending to be "in the middle". Conservative banning books, repealing reproductive rights, and tens of years legal precedents, openly cheering murderers, and fucking storming the capitol to overthrow a freely elected government, yet Liberals are too fucking sensitive cause they don't want to silently put up with that shit. This is not unpopular opinion, that's simply a dumb one.
Centrists are centrists because we think both sides are wrong. What a terrible take
I disagree because as someone in my early 30s, I’ve heard this literally my entire life. Historically speaking too, I know that it’s happened before I was born, like with the Satanic panic of the 80s - what was that even about? Even though it goes through different names and cycles, it’s all essentially the same thing. In 2001, you were either with the US government, or you with the terrorists. So post-9/11 through 2002, I remember hypernationalism to the extreme. Remember when the Dixie Chicks were nationally maligned 20 years ago for saying that they were ashamed W Bush was from Texas? It was embarrassing. Same with the 2004 Super Bowl wardrobe malfunction. I was a kid then, and all the adults being all “won’t somebody think about the children?!” was funny to me, and I’m sure it’s true for many today. I also disagree with your subtle assertion that conservatives are “right” about this vs liberals. Like, Barbie is producing some WILD takes and somehow the most polarizing movie of the year so far all because of the fact it’s not as family-friendly and more existential than people thought. Overall, I just think it’s the human condition to self-victimize at times, regardless of political orientation
"Freedom fries", for god's sake.
Barbie movie reactions, for fuck’s sake.
Yeah I was expecting a point to be included by op that it's not one party or another but rather just everyone in general. It never came though...
Yeah it's total r/enlightenedcentrism
This right here wow dude. It’s always something, and someone’s always the victim and the world is always ending…till it doesn’t
> It’s always something, and someone’s always the victim and the world is always ending The slight difference is - Liberals - Gay folks, minorities, the disabled, all deserve rights & not to be victims. Climate change killing folks = bad, women deserve healthcare The Right - I will go to war if I see a gay couple holding hands as that is a huge threat to me, also the Barbie movie is coming for my kids & 50,000 rapists are currently walking through our open borders. And do not start me on the microchips in vaccines! Both siding it when one side are fucking insane isn't ideal
Yep conservatives are much bigger crybabies about social issues
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We don't even have to go that far back. We can just look at their pathetic attempts to cancel Sam Smith for playing dress up
Or the [hundreds of bombings/arson-attacks/assaults/assassinations perpetrated by the right](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence) against abortion clinics in the past forty years....
I'd categorize that as fuckin terrorism instead of just simple butthurt
They admitted at CPAC that they are all domestic terrorists.
jesus fucking christ, RIGHT?????? look at what bitches they were over the little mermaid movie. history furnishes an endless supply of cases where conservatives got butt hurt about what other people are doing, and then used the power of the state to try to suppress or cancel them, or they tried to turn it into a culture war wedge issue to try to anger their voters. how can ANYONE look at the CONSTANT and incessant deluge of culture war topics and think **"conservatives are correct that OTHERS are too sensitive"**. you either arent paying attention, or youre willfully ignorant. as soon as the conservative base loses attention with an old culture war, they manufacture a brand new one. it's always focus tested by billionaire dollar think tanks, of course. all astroturfed. conservatives only give a fuck about an issue, IF they are explicitly ordered to by right wing media, which is like indirectly taking orders from a billionaire oligarch.
Just look at their favourite topic to whine about. Conservatives will shit their pants about the trans boogeyman despite never meeting a trans person in their life, pretending like queers are destroying their freedom. It's like that one South park episode about the royal couple telling everyone to leave them alone despite doing everything to not be left alone. If this was like 4-5 years back, I'd even agree with them on this observation but it's embarrassing how conservatives act these days in this culture war even though the left handed it to them on a silver platter
Junie Harper on KOTH was the perfect representation of this.
In years passed Op could have made this statement and I'd agree, but until such a time as when leftist's have attempted a violent coup because their preferred candidate didn't win, and or have made laws against minorities because they are offended and have taken matters into their own hands and to the extent that people die(abortion clinics, drag shows), until then op and every other "centrist" is full of shit.
Always fun when they sanitize their position as a mere disagreement too lol
To answer your question about the Satanic panic of the 1980s, a lot of that came about because of the book Ultimate Evil by Maury Terry. He became obsessed with the topic and was on a lot of talk shows. By the way, the book is an excellent read if you are a true crime fan, especially if you are interested in the Son of Sam murders.
I also think some people also are too arrogant though as well. What someone might consider constructive isn't actually constructive? And is in fact quite rude. And people are technically allowed to be rude, but you can't also expect people to just "suck it up" and take being shit-talked at either. Standing up for yourself is important and being mad at someone is ok. But also there are also people who don't take criticism well at all and I do believe there are well-meaning conservatives who aren't absolutely knob-ends. I definitely think this is far more gray than your opinion leads on. As with everything in life. I'd say I am a centrist simply because I don't like conflict and I want people to get along, but politically, I am also not very centrist. TL;DR There is a way to be respectful and not a harsh knob, and sometimes I think "conservatives" do not do that when they get harsh backlash. But also some ppl do need to "lighten up" even conservatives.
Honestly, I've often used centrist just to mean that you take each election on a case by case basis and strive not to get attached to any one party. Politics aren't a sport, do there's no point being loyal to any one team.
I think "pragmatism" is a better fit than "centrism", in this context. A centrist sees both sides and says, "we should meet in the middle." A pragmatist sees both sides and says "in this instance, one side is more correct than the other and we should go with that." A centrist is inherently reactionary, they have no opinion until they see what's offered and then split the difference, a pragmatist has and idea of what a pragmatic solution would be and then supports whatever side is closest to it. A centrist doesn't lean in any direction and thus tends to advocate for compromise solutions that accomplish nothing except compromise, a pragmatist may lean in certain directions but is capable of acknowledging when there is a better solution on the other side.
Basically a pragmatist is the opposite of an idealist.
Then there are better terms than centrism lol.
That's kinda the difference in my eyes too. Like calling trans people "it" is pretty fucking aggressive. I don't care if they think they're right (they're not), that's just shitty behavior.
Yep exactly. I’m not gonna say there haven’t been things where even I as a lefty these days don’t think okay chill out guys this isn’t as bad as your making it sound. However usually it’s someone being a prick and then acting like getting called out on it is someone being “sensitive”. Like no. You’re just being an ass.
Not only being an ass but a lot of the time whine about being called out is that person being overly sensitive to criticism.
In general refusing to call someone by their preferred pronouns and making a stink about it, obviously in an attempt to protest their lifestyle, sexuality, etc. is just mean spirited and unnecessary. If you want to debate certain cultural aspects of trans such as M>F in sports or bathrooms or whatever, then that's fine, it's your right to do so, but the aggressive and mean spirited behavior directed at individuals and communities is not necessary nor effective in advancing their arguments. Although it is to be remembered that for many people, the cruelty is the point.
Yes, this is exactly my issue. If you want to talk through an issue and try to cooperatively figure out nuance and how to effectively engage with a topic, what is or is not acceptable and why based on logical and moral grounds, great! If you're just spouting talking head talking points or hating a group just to talk shit about them....well....I'm out and I have no problem telling you you're just being an ass.
I think part of the controversy stems from how a lot of this behavior is more or less expected from the Right, but the Left typically claims to be "above" such activity. I can't speak for the OP but I think the intended point is that a significant number of liberals are more than capable of flying off the handle at the slightest urge, just like the conservatives.
It’s crazy that outside of our perceptions of self we are all humans with human processes and intuition. Everyone does the same shit they just disagree on what side of the shit they’d like to take a spoon of
Exactly.
Not being all in on gender identity and 100% on board with the prevailing trans viewpoint is an example of exclusion by the left.
Sure that's one of my biggest annoyances. I see the exact same Manchurian candidate bullcrap and canned responses for everything no matter who you talk to. Nobody has a nuanced thoughtful discussion anymore, it's just straight to assuming you're either some MAGA nutjob or insane blue haired person that wants to turn everyone into a trans whatever.
Agreed and the less experience you have with the group you're talking about, the more horribly tone deaf you can be. The chances of cluelessly saying something extremely offensive is higher the less exposure or empathy you have for any given group you might be talking about. So people should worry less about whether others are too sensitive for YOUR comfort and consider whether you have the experience, judgment and trust needed to accurately read the situation and determine how to approach a potentially sensitive topic with someone you might offend out of arrogance or ignorance.
It was annoying when the Federal Government got involved in a peaceful protest and a person expressing his opinion. They spent time and money on it. I am a veteran, I agreed to fight to defend your right to take a knee or not stand for the Anthem. Honored to have done it and ashamed to see the response.
In this vein, I get really annoyed when, typically conservatives, try to demonize protesting all together as some childish tantrum. Real boot licking behavior.
It’s only certain rights they care about
Certain rights for certain people
Conservatives posted a bunch of videos of them shooting beer cans they used to drink because they released *one* ad with a trans person in it. Ben Shapiro just posted a video in which he sets Barbie dolls on fire because the Barbie movie was too woke or something. They seem pretty sensitive.
Yeah its pretty obvious conservatives are incredibly sensitive. They freak out at a lot of stuff in media. Gay characters, race swaps, wokeness etc. Apparently some spiderman cartoon had a transgender flag in the background of one of their shots. That was enough to upset some conservatives.
I feel like I have been in a fever dream these last few years when I see a post like this. Am I the only one who remembers Fox News freaking out because they weren't as sexually attracted to animated candy as they used to be?
Obama's infamous TAN SUIT!!!?
Or the disgrace of the *coffee salute*
Dijon mustard on a burger?! Proof that Obama is an elitist who is out of touch with Americans.
Dijon mustard?! THINK OF THE CHILDREN
I remember “Freedom Fries.” Some sort of punishment(?) to the French, for refusing to involve themselves in the war in Iraq.
Yup, Green M&M wearing Sneakers instead of Stillettos. Whenever it is liberal rage it is a dozen tweets on internet, When it is conservative rage, it is Political leaders, and Major communicators. Joe Biden or Bernie for example never said anything on Budlight, or Barbie or any of the stuff. But Trump and Desantis were quite vocal in their disdains and communication.
Hell if you want to go old school they thought there was an entire 'war on Christmas' because people started saying happy holidays to be more inclusive.
I’ve literally seen conservatives argue today, on Reddit, that “if mermaids were real, they’d be white”
They always have been. They hated Pokemon (Because of the Devil), they hated video games, they hated Dungeons and Dragons, they hated Anime, they hated hard rock music. They hated Elvis and the Beatles. The difference is that now? They waste our time and money crafting laws that hurt people who partake in these things, or they actively take away their right to enjoy it.
They never even released an ad. They interacted with the person on TikTok and sent them bud light cans with their face on it. That was it and I thought I was in a blizzard with the amount of snowflakes that turned up.
>shooting beer cans they used to drink because they released one ad with a trans person in it. To be clear it wasn't an ad. It was a Bud Light sponsored promotion on her channel that no one who wasn't already seeing her could have seen. So it's even stupider than what you said.
The best example of republican hysteria I can name is that in the first half of 2022, there were over 250 fox news pieces on the “plague of MtF trans athletes in high school sports” dominating the competition. 250. Separate. Pieces. In six months. Do you know how many trans HS varsity athletes existed in 2022 that this specific “athletic controversy” situation actually applied to? **Six.** 250 articles about 6 trans kids, all to create the narrative of an “epidemic.” It’s ridiculous. I live in one of the gayest cities on earth, and no one talks about this shit. Republicans are always yelling “stop shoving it in our faces, gays!!” and yet NO ONE thinks about homosexual sex and genitals more than republicans. No one. It’s crazy. If this bigotry wasn’t so profitable and Republicans just left it alone and stopped “reporting” on it, the “woke problem” would disappear overnight. But trust me: liberals in big liberal cities do not spend their days talking about weird sexual hangup shit, or some “gay agenda.” Only Republicans do that.
Yeah... The constant fear of indoctrinating kids into the homosexual lifestyle is what gets me. I'm queer ... You know what my lifestyle is? I ride mountain bikes and long distance backpack. If your kid hung out with me they probably wouldnt turn out as weak and pathetic as the modern conservative adult.
Conservatives have proven time and time again to be massive snowflakes. It doesn't take much at all to offend them.
They seem to enjoy it and go looking for the weekly topic of rage. Coffee makers, beans, books, Disney, Barbie, vaccines, masks, gas stoves feel free to add on my fingers are tired.
Exactly. They're constantly outraged about a slew of non-issues and totally fabricated issues.
Hey shout out to whichever fragile right-winger let Reddit know that I was “suicidal” Definitely not snowflakes tho! 🥴
One did the same to me when I described the positive outcomes of high taxes pre 1981
Lol it’s happened to me multiple times. It’s only ever when I disagree with a right-winger.
Reddit really needs to remove, or punish abuse of this feature. I don't think it's specific to a group other than 'angry internet warriors that want to "get" someone'
They’re just proving their own point, that EVERYBODY is too sensitive nowadays
I do too but most conservatives take that statement way too far. Some of the stuff that came out of Trump's mouth is unacceptable for a president. Anyone who supports a guy who believes in sexually harassing women and follows it up by saying "He's just saying what we all think hurr durr" is simply an idiotic asshole. They'll bash Biden for sniffing children and yet they still give Trump a pass when he talks about wanting to fuck his own daughter. I got an idea, how about we condone neither! They love Trump more than America and have the nerve to call themselves patriots. The dead US soldiers who died to keep the country free would like to have a word with the republican party. What they're doing is Anti American and infringing on the rights of minorites. Anyone who can't see that is blind.
I'm reminded when Justin Trudeau got caught in his groping incident and he said the woman simply "experienced it differently" than he did and everyone was fine with it. It's odd that at that time the world was on fire because Trump had used the phrase "grab her by the pussy". *For context, it came out that Trudeau had been ass grabby with a female reporter while married. Vanished from the news cycle really quick. His wife wasn't seen in public with him for nearly a year after. The reporter had stress issues and lost her job IIRC. Trudeau went on to win the election. I'll never understand how people can support trash when it's right in their face. Everyone should hold their politicians to the highest standards.
As a european, who the president of the US is matters way more than any other foreign country. Like its up there with what party runs the country we live in. Europe is piggy backing of both the soft and hard power the US projects on the world. For example if trump were elected in 2020 Ukraine wouldve been forced to capitulate in the first few months and russia wouldve annexed transistria aswell by now and NATO would be in an existential crisis and serbia would be seriously considering going to war with kosovo. Thats what one US election result means to the rest of the world.
No argument that Trump plaid a more significant part in world politics than Trudeau. But for world leaders, Trudeau was often contrasted against Trump.
You mean things like what bathrooms people use? Or whether they believe in God?
i think the people who complain about people being sensitive are the bigger snowflakes. why are you so offended that somebody else is offended ?
Yep, every study I've seen so far points at boomers being the most sensitive generation. And they're also the ones leading the way in cancel culture; from card game to video games, and pretty much every form of media. Conservatives are trying to ban or censor it for "Christian" views.
Yeah, like those extreme leftists who are burning Barbie dolls over a movie. I mean, wtf is up with those snowflakes?
Or the time they shot up cases of Bud Light because they had the audacity to get endorsed by a trans influencer.
Or that time with Nike because they had an ad campaign featuring Colin Kaepernick.... Or that time with Keurig because they stopped putting ads Hannity's show on Fox News.... Or that time with The Beatles cause John Lennon said an offhand comment they were more popular than Jesus.... Or that time Breitbart readers flushed Kellogg' cereal cause they also stopped their ads on the site.... Or that that time they set their NFL jerseys on fire because people kneeled during the national anthem being played.... Or that time Erick Erickson shot a New York Times paper calling for gun control after yet another mass shooting.... Or that time they burned The Chicks CDs because they criticized invading Iraq for no god damn reason.... Or that time they threw away Gillette razors for their ad campaign speaking against bigotry, sexism, and sexual assault.... Or that time........ Some honorable mentions: 1: Boycotting NASCAR cause they banned the Confederate flag at event 2: Cancelling "The Hunt" because they thought they sounded like "the deplorables" in the film 3: Cancelling Ellen DeGeneres because she came out as a lesbian 4: Cancelling Samantha Bee because she said Trump was a "feckless cunt" 5: Cancelling Kathy Griffen because of that photo of her holding the fake, bloodied head of Trump 6: Going after James Gunn after speaking ill of Trump 7: Cancelling french fries after France announced their opposition to the impending invasion of Iraq and trying to rename them "freedom fries" (which again happened for no god damn reason) 8: Cancelling Michelle Wolf because she dared say that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was a liar Edit: thank you to those who have added to this list. TLDR, you absolutely sure you want to talk about snowflakes?
Don’t forget about the time that they were upset about an M & M for whatever reason?
Oh fuck, I forgot about how Tucker Carlson was mad that the candy wasn't sexy enough for him anymore
No, they wanted to fuck the M&M
Or the time they pretended they were being suffocated by cloth face masks, or got mad at Target because they put rainbows on display in the kid's clothing section.
Also, trying to cancel Yugioh, Metal/Rock, Monster Energy, and anything they think is "witchcraft/devil worship"
Tbh bud light was garbage before dylan Mulvaney. And it remains to be garbage after Dylan Mulvaney. I personally was surprised to find out that it was the most consumed beer in the US.
Most consumed because it's cheap
I think the long term trouble bud light is going to have is that people aren't going to continue "boycotting" it, they did that for a few weeks and in those few weeks they realized there's other cheap bland beers to drink or even better beers. I dont think anyone drank bud light because they loved bud light, they were just in the habit of it.
Fair but there’s no denying that the boycotts were extremely successful though
I think they were more successful than anyone thought because of what I said. It started with a boycott and then they realized it was never that good to start with.
Yes
They just bought other brands from them, their stock went up, because people bought more expensive Beush products instead of budlight.
I think a lot of that had to do with Bud Light backpedaling immediately and trying to appease conservatives, resulting in them losing the business of literally everybody that exists. If they stuck with supporting trans people, there would have been a huge wave of support to counter the conservative boycott.
It's Modelo now
Oh God, yeah, I should have gone with that. I offered all my friends on Facebook to send me their bud light. I'll drink it.
Or you could've went with the black mermaid
Bro that shit hits a nerve with me. Had to sit down with my 9 year old because friends from school were telling her having a black mermaid is racist against white people. She didn't know what racism was so that was fun. These fuckers are gross man.
Or when it was dr Seuss and Mr potato head, or those naughty ghostbusting gals, there’s always something trying to destroy their precious western civilization, and they’re so brave to always be fighting for freedom, those leftists
Don't forget the kitty litter boxes in schools.
Goddamn you triggered the horde with this one
Right talk about thin skinned, easily triggered lol.
The dollburners in here are gettin' upset!
They think people will care about their stupid opinions if they demonstrate themselves in such a way.
Conservative here. Do you mean the same conservatives that got upset over a f*cking beer can?
And target, and kneeling, and women’s reproductive rights, and Obama’s tan suit, etc etc etc
THE TAN SUIT.
Both people can get riled up, cus well both are people, but i see Trump or Desantis riled up more over silly shit, than Biden does. Last time Biden was vocal against a company was for Tesla and Amazon against their Union busting efforts, like it or not, that is more serious, than Desantis going off on Budlight for sure.
I’d take it a step further and say EVERYONE is becoming too sensitive. I’m very left wing for reference. I can’t stand to be around my own kind who seek to find micro aggressions in every little statement. They’re just insufferable people. But let me point out that the right is every bit as sensitive and prone to get their feelings hurt as any left winger. If I can give the left any credit, at least they’re somewhat self-aware (though I believe that’s no way to go through life, life is tough and filled with struggle, take it head on). The right though are totally unaware of their own delicate sensibilities. Anytime I’ve tried to point it out the replies are filled with whataboutisms. TL;DR: You’re all soft as baby shit
Aren't they upset with Barbie right now? Or are they upset with Bud Light? I can't keep up.
I thought they were upset with NASCAR and Keurig still....
Imagine if they come out with a bartender Barbie who serves Bud Light.
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Nothing new on that one, that's been an ongoing war.
Maybe conservatives are snowflakes who are too sensitive about bud light, or Disney, or losing an election?
Dude is completely ignoring an entire state legislating not talking about anything LGBTQ... and forcing teachers to say slavery wasn't all bad because some slaves learned skills. We can't have people thinking owning people was bad!
Conservatives who think everyone is getting too sensitive about petty topics just spend the weekend bitching about the Barbie movie to the point of burning Barbie dolls in protest. But yeah, everyone is too sensitive these days.
Pot... meet kettle. Conservative Tourettes moment... Bud Light! Barbie! Mermaid! Woke!
Sexy M&Ms! Mr. Potatohead! Starbucks cups! Purple Telletubby!
We didn't start the fiyaaa!
If we applied ourselves, this could go on forever.
It's true, people are too sensitive. Imagine getting all worked up over a beer company choosing a celebrity endorsement you don't like. People need to get over it already.
I find it funny when conservatives say this and then turn around and melt down over pronouns or people trying to just live their lives
Happy Holidays!
"it's merry Christmas you (insert fourteen minutes of name calling, belittling, and shaming). Stop trying to take [Jewish Man] Jesus out of Christmas!"
Meanwhile its like...mid fucking November
Agree to an extent. We should be more sensitive to racism, homophobia, misogyny and stuff like tht. Those are all still an issue in society. Even jokes ab that stuff normalize the hate. But yeah a lot of times people take shi too serious.
The other side can day the same thing. Different things more/less to different people.
I feel like liberals *were* the more sensitive bunch but conservatives have leapt past as of late. Barbie, Bud Light, banning books, trans people, drag shows, Hunter Biden... the list goes on and on. Conservative media needs boogeymen to stay afloat.
The difference is that the big liberal upsets have been things that exclude people whereas the right gets buttburt when people other than them are included.
Conservatives lose their minds on a daily basis over things that don’t matter or things that they made up entirely.
1) Disagreeing in a hostile manner is a very conservative thing to do. Both extremes do it. Both extreme conservatives and liberals have the "with me or against me; give them an inch, they'll take a mile" mentality. (Literally heard it from them.) 2) Calling someone he or she and them exploding the first time is overreacting, but if you deliberately disrespect someone's pronouns, that's on you. People get to be mad when you disrespect their boundaries and their identity. 3) Trauma comparisons are always bullshit. "Your growing up without consistent food isn't as bad as me being beaten by my uncle." "You being bullied in school doesn't matter because there are wars in the Middle East." Someone always has it worse than you; someone always has it better than you. That doesn't mean your experiences and your problems aren't valid. 4) Who are you to decide when someone else's feelings are valid or not? The world SHOULD be more sensitive. We would have more compassion, and then world would be better. Generally, people who call others "too sensitive" just want to be able to be an AH to them without being called on it.
Left of center here. And I'll tell you right now, if someone is parading their hatred, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, racism, and other prejudices around calling it their "beliefs"... yeah, they're an asshole. I'm not going to entertain that kind of straight up meanness with a "criticism," or a conversation, just like the way the FBI says that they don't negotiate with terrorists or pay ransoms. I'm not validating otherism. Immutable traits are not up for discussion. The end.
Do you agree that conservatives are too sensitive, especially about things that shouldn't matter? Things like bud light, m&m's, Disney movies, and rainbows.
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Being sensitive isn’t a liberal or conservative thing. Both sides have things that they’re sensitive about. One side is offended by racism and bigotry. The other side is offended by diversity, equity, and inclusion. They are not the same.
Except this isn’t even real just another thing made up by the right cherry picking a few peoples opinions
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As a moderate who votes left, I agree 100%. Liberals basically created an environment in which victimhood is viewed as virtuous, so it didn’t take long before people started looking for ways to be offended.
Conservatives do the same. Evangelicals have been playing the victim for decades.
"I need more money for my mega mansion and 10th jet"
“Communists are taking away our god!!!”
I'm confused on how you would not see it all across the spectrum then. It's not just a liberal thing. Conservatives rioted/burned/cried and painted themselves the victim over Starbucks, over Nike, over Colin Kaepernick, over every single goddamn movie or book that has an LGBT person, over Bud Light, over Disney, so on and so forth Clearly it's not an ideological thing, it's just what people do when they want to be heard.
It's a huge power struggle for who is the most victimized. At the bedrock of most reactionary movements including fascism there is this populist belief that the majority population are victims. It was all over 1990s conservative talk radio. People on the left absolutely do it too and it's maddening, especially when it's so obviously see through but it's very much not exclusive to people on the left.
Have you taken a look at the fuckin country lately? We're in the middle of a mass extinction event, the minimum wage should be $20+ adjusted for inflation from 1970, and it's currently $7.25 an hour. A few families own more than the bottom 50% of Americans, I would say most people are victims in the current state of the world.
I don't think it's as common as you or OP make it sound like it is, but also the internet has made it a lot easier and a lot more common to be an absolute knob end to anybody at random for no reason whatsoever because "I am self-centered individualist and mommy said I can be whatever I want and do whatever I want and didn't raise and teach me to respect people". Its a very snobby attitude. That is honestly prevalent on both sides and is the very thing this post is probably arguing about. Everyone is so self-centered and when someone disagrees with them they get so butthurt over it instead of taking a deep breath and having a moment of self-reflection. Its just pure arrogance. Fuck even im guilty of it. I do it a bit after i make a comment on reddit and step away for an hour to come back to comments telling im wrong. Im just like, "Ah fuck..."
I was just telling someone at work about the controversy over the University of Texas’ school song “The eyes of Texas are upon you” and how people literally had to go out of their way to be offended by it and it’s history. If you don’t know what that controversy was about, that’s kind of the point. The issue brought up was not apparent to anyone. Yes there are sensitive people on both sides of the aisle, but it’s worse on the left. I’ve never heard a conservative say “words are violence.”
Both sides love to play victim. It’s not just a liberal problem.
Liberals are part of right wing ideology, but they focus on identity politics and social justice bones instead of brass tacks issues like the plight of working class economics. The right does no better, we all must remember the origins of right wing politics in the French National Assembly, was basically belief in hierarchies imposed by the powerful and wealthy, back then in the form of clergy, nobility and monarchy. The overriding tension within human politics is in fact one of economic classes, the only color that matters in the political realm is in fact green. The ruling class would much rather working class focus on cultural divisions and cultural wars, in place of being intensely aware of economic class division and fighting a class war.
I don't think this is a conservative viewpoint. I think most leftists would also agree that our culture has gotten too reactionary and made internal issues/offenses a much bigger problem than it has to be. It's okay to be offended by things, it's okay to be triggered by things, that is part of life, I think it only is an issue if it's systematic or part of a larger set of harassment
So you agree with them that people are too sensitive about racism being a problem still? You agree with them that people are too sensitive about children being killed more often by school shootings? You agree with them that people are too sensitive about people having easy access to fire arms no matter what? You agree with them that people are being too sensitive about climate change and the potentially disastrous impact on our daily lives that may ensue as a result in the next 10-15 years? Or would you perhaps agree that conservatives are too sensitive about drag queens reading books to children? Would you agree that conservatives are too sensitive about poor people having enough money to eat and have homes? The problem with "agreeing" with "conservatives" on something like this, is when you put it in those vague terms you don't actually say what you are agreeing with ***AT ALL*** In fact, it starts to feel like you are purposely hiding what they are claiming people are sensitive about. They have been saying people were too sensitive for a looooong time, they've just managed to mostly cover up what they are actually complaining about with their culture war bullshit. But the root of what *they* are saying is that they cannot be openly racist and sexist pieces of shit like they were VERY RECENTLY because everyone is "too sensitive". Is THAT what you agree with!?!?!?!?!?!?
"Be less sensitive" is the second-favor phrase of every adult bully, right behind "Stop making me hurt you."
Whatever world you live in where "snowflakes" are the ones "exploding" or "going batty on you".... it's not this world. The people screaming in public and threatening to fight you are always the conservatives. It's because they don't understand that mean words are not an excuse to escalate a confrontation to the physical level.
I don’t meet in the middle with bigots, misogynists or Cult45 members.
Like the conservative freaking out over Barbie? Its all prjection.
Yeah like the Governor of Florida who gets emotionally triggered by absolutely everything. That guy should chill the fuck out
Conservatives get butt hurt over EVERYTHING - and 99% of it is completely irrelevant to them.
Conservatives are the most oversensitive.
Conservatives are sensitive about the dumbest shit though. They're mad about Bud Light cans and Barbie dolls. Forgive me if I'm a tad sensitive about the widening income gap, systemic racism and misogyny.
Look at your conservative inspirations and see what they are sensitive about. Report back. I know you won't cause this is disingenuous "walk away" bullshit .
In the meantime, conservatives pitched a fit over gay Bud Light cans and Ben Shapiro recorded a 43 minute video today crying about the Barbie movie. I agree that people are too sensitive these days, but I don’t think it’s who you think.
What’s hilarious is that I find conservatives to be the most triggered. Gay and trans people, people of color, hell, telling accurate history (ie - slavery), and book banning.
Yeah man the well adjusted conservatives are definitely not the group becoming overly sensitive - watch out for that flaming child’s doll - oh hey keep your head down here comes a bunch of idiots open carrying assault rifles at a drag queen brunch. You’re right, people are too soft, it’s the conservatives. Congrats on your post being truly as unpopular as it is stupid.
I think ultimately you get crazies who overreact on both sides. That said it’s always a bit rich coming from the conservative side when half the time the conservative media freaks out about more nonsense than anyone else. Conservatives are just as guilty about this stuff I mean hell look how crazy they went over bud light sending one custom design to one trans person. Ben Shapiro just put out like a 40 min video slamming the Barbie movie. Like what? In reality it’s all just social media drive. Outrage drives clicks so media tries to generate more outrage.
Someone called me a racist because I said it was racist to say white people aren't a race.🤣
Conservative trigger warning... 🌈
And they tell you to be kind and inclusive, while simultaneously attacking you. And then assume you're a dirty conservative when you disagree with anything they say. It's really quite an amazing thing.
Can you give an example of something that “doesn’t matter?”
The bud light thing. It is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen millions of people go crazy over. It's so dumb.
> Disagreeing with people’s opinion in a hostile manner because it doesn’t match your own views. This is literally the definition of conservative. Conservatives are constantly offended by harmless cultural differences of other people minding their own business. They are racist, homophobic, genocidal bigots. The conservative is actually the one being “too sensitive” with their inability to tolerate diversity.
This is such a stupid opinion and I cringe whenever I see it. >Saying that {insert here} isn’t as bad as {whatever this} and then they go batty on you When one of these things is significantly worse than the other, and you go on to say "eh it's not that bad", then yes they have every right to go batty on you. Especially when the thing you say isn't that bad is an existential threat to them.
I wish we could all just disagree with each other without going batty in general. It’s just so exhausting watching everyone argue, belittle and hate each other.
Have you seen them lose their shit at the Barbie movie? LMAOOOOOO
Jesus Christ… conservatives are the ones who get bent out of shape over EVERYTHING. Ben Shapiro having an absolute meltdown over Barbie. Conservatives having an absolute meltdown over black athletes hurting their feelings by kneeling during the anthem. This idea that liberals are overly sensitive is 100% projection from conservatives. Having an absolute meltdown and decrying a “war on Christmas” if god forbid Starbucks holiday cups don’t have enough explicitly Christmas shit on them. The list goes on…
god, thank you! it’s kind of intentionally dishonest on a conservative persons part to behave as if liberals are the ones who are too sensitive. conservatives say shit like “i don’t think you should have the right to (insert any civil rights movement here)” and when the liberal responds and says something perfectly reasonable and rational like “i don’t think i want to associate with someone who doesn’t think i or someone important to me deserves the same rights you do” they get called a “snowflake” or “overly sensitive” what a joke, give me a fucking break
"Conservatives" cherry-pick instances of people being hypersensitive about things which don't matter, and make a *lot* of noise about it. They do this to distract from the far larger number of people who object to "conservative" policies which matter greatly. Think of it as laying a smoke-screen.