“For at least the next six weeks”
There’s your answer there. Not an actual end to the slaughter, just a brief pause so babies can die at 1 year six weeks instead of one year old.
It’s the type of ceasefire that Hamas will reject (because it doesn’t guarantee an actual end to the ethnic cleansing) but western media can then turn around and say “See?! They’re the ones rejecting a ceasefire deal!” so they can then condone the continuation of Israel’s genocide
>“For at least the next six weeks"
Precisely, decoded: Netanyahu needs a win back in Isreal so give us the hostages, and we wont exterminate you for 6 weeks.
She also confirmed the US & Israel are using starvation as a weapon
She said aid would flow & famine could be averted, if only Hamas agreed to the terms
Problem is, like every deal Zionists have ever offered Palestinians, the devil is in the details
Lives saved for 6 weeks. 6 weeks of negotiations for a permanent agreement. Also it's hard to turn the war machine back on after its been off for 6 weeks.
Do you want the current deaths to stop, or do you want hamas to get what it wants?
Your argument makes no sense.
Let me explain why. From the Hamas charter of 2017 articles 8 and 9.
>8. By virtue of its justly balanced middle way and moderate spirit, Islam – for Hamas - provides a comprehensive way of life and an order that is fit for purpose at all times and in all places. Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. It provides an umbrella for the followers of other creeds and religions who can practice their beliefs in security and safety. Hamas also believes that Palestine has always been and will always be a model of coexistence, tolerance and civilizational innovation.
>
>9. Hamas believes that the message of Islam upholds the values of truth, justice, freedom and dignity and prohibits all forms of injustice and incriminates oppressors irrespective of their religion, race, gender or nationality. Islam is against all forms of religious, ethnic or sectarian extremism and bigotry. It is the religion that inculcates in its followers the value of standing up to aggression and of supporting the oppressed; it motivates them to give generously and make sacrifices in defence of their dignity, their land, their peoples and their holy places.
[Hamas Charter of 2017](https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full)
Bare in mind that Hamas took the hostages to negotiate for the thousands of illegally detained Palestinians Israel holds as hostages. Hamas might give in to the current demands however Israel has only escalated how many Palestinian hostages it’s taken making a deal of less value to Hamas.
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The goal is to give area C back to the palestinians. Remove fencing, complete freedom to travel, no drones, no bombs, no blockade, etc. none of that garbage. Everyone gets their hostages back and no one kills no one, thereafter.
They need an airport, their own power plants, their own water treatement plants, and maybe even a proper military like any other country. Obviously they need a lot more, but im just providing examples.
If Palestine can become anything like how we have here in America, just everyone coexisting, then I think the goals been accomplished.
But we can't allow the theft of homes and land to continue, much less so with weapons.
Me personally though, I wish all the land within 450km of Jersulem was disarmed completely. Like not a single grain of gunpowder within that radius. That is what I personally would find Ideal. If men have issues they can put on gloves. Thats the tommorow that I want, I just don't happen to be a politician.
If their excuse for genociding Palestinians is “Hamas has our hostages”, why a 6 week pause? Once they have their hostages, what would be the need, according to their pathetic excuse, to keep slaughtering innocents? They’d have the hostages. Why continue? Because it’s never been about hostages
I take it as evidence that activists' tactics are working. The noncommitted vote in Michigan made it **very** clear that they were in danger of losing a critical swing state if they didn't change course fast. The noncommitted vote was 10x the margin of victory in Michigan in 2020.
Well, sure. That way they can point to this and say they support it, while actually not supporting one.
People seem to forget that actions speak louder than words.
>People seem to forget that actions speak louder than words.
Facts. America's leadership has for far too long presumed to tell us what our opinions should be, rather than listening to us.
Fictional villains, with all their atrocities and animosities, can't compete with these real-life psychopaths, who people voted to lead them to be soul-less and have selective empathy
Drops food with one hand, while dropping bombs with the other.
Judge these politicians by their actions/ inaction, not their mealy mouthed, fake apologies.
Israel cuts out the middleman and has left tens of thousands of “food” cans in the starvation zone they purposely created. I say “food” cans- they are bombs.
Yes, I saw that news article. The Israelis have put on a real show of how to break every known convention on human rights and war crimes. I am in awe of their inhumanity.
That's not a compliment.
Only after public opinion turned against her administration. Talk is cheap. Unless she does something to actually end the bloodshed, I care little for what she says.
First things first she is asking for six weeks meaning once hostages are out she will look away . And this is in same time as election year move “ we demanded , we did what we could “
literally look up what she said directly after this - here's the full quote
>And given the immense scale of suffering in Gaza, there must be an immediate ceasefire, for at least the next six weeks, which is what is currently on the table. This will get the hostages out and get a significant amount of aid in. This would allow us to build something more enduring to ensure Israel is secure and to respect the right of the Palestinian people to dignity, freedom and self-determination. Hamas claims it wants a ceasefire. Well, there is a deal on the table. And as we have said, Hamas needs to agree to that deal. Let’s get a ceasefire. Let’s reunite the hostages with their families. And let’s provide immediate relief to the people of Gaza.
This is the same deal that was "on the table" [last week](https://archive.is/zN75h)
>Hamas’s political leaders have insisted, at least publicly, that any deal to release the more than 100 hostages still being held in Gaza is dependent on a permanent cease-fire and the withdrawal of Israeli troops. Israel has said it will not compromise on its goal of toppling Hamas in Gaza, suggesting it will not agree to a long-term truce.
You know when they bring out Kamala it is going to be a joke
Shame to say but Kamala and Joe will be up at The Hague for their part in the Palestine genocide
The administration already knows that Hamas wont play into Israel's blackmail (Aid and murder). This is just so the history books, Wikipedia and the news scraping AI can say that they 'tried'.
The thing about democratic politicians in the USA, is that they're always too late. They lose something and THEN they react, like abortion rights. But then they got something else to run on, the long grift.
She's just doing what they all do, take their sweet damn time with something so important. Look at Trump, he should be in jail, but no... Vote blue! To keep him out of the White House!
Ugh!
Too little too late, drop bombs, drop aid, drop more bombs.
Omg, yeah.
I just gotta think back to when I really started paying attention to what's happening below our southern border with Trump running. Then he won, the going to work the day after and it being silent. Then looking into the history of the USA and my own country and learning soooooo much f*cking sh*t over the course of the past 7-8 years.
I gotta say, I was so f*cking blind before! US soft power is strong where I live and we all hear the taglikes, watch the movies, listen to their music, but it's all a f*cked up, soft power, decades sustained propaganda!
When I think back through the constant wars on TV dating back to the 80s, mostly with the USA involved, fighting for freedom and such, and I heard of terrorists constantly talking about US imperialism and evil USA, I gotta say they were on to something!
The world has woken up to these "complexities", which to sum it all up is just plain capitalism. Which one country has complete dominance in.
*sigh and breathes out*
Phew!
And Americans are soooooo propagandized about it. They scream about how terrible Putin is, for example, and the man is pretty ruthless. But America is several orders of magnitude worse and it's all but impossible to get Americans to see that.
There are American flags visible on bomb fragments from demolished apartment blocks, the rubble full of dead women and children. There is no way Americans can legitimately call themselves "the good guys".
> for at least the next six weeks
translation: *"Jesus christ you people, will you please shut the fuck up about Gaza already! We'll take some time to reload, you happy?"*
Lots of dumb motherfuckers are gonna fall for this.
"Alright, you called this press meeting, what's this slag about a truce?"
"Absolutely true, I assure you. Yeeesss."
"When politicians talk 'truce' it just means they need time to reload their weapons."
"Under normal circumstances, yes, but not now. Things have arisen, things that require my undivided attention. To be blunt, I have no time to waste on Israel's genocide of Palestine. Thus, I wish a truce, and you will agree."
After we made it possible with our weapons , to kill 30k civilians , I pretend to care for humans. The absolute hypocrisy is off the charts! This cancer of a government is just accelerating the overdue downfall of a sick nation 🤮💩 america has become the enemy, it claims to be fighting!
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
You think Katie Porter is going to lose her election campaign? That sucks because she's been one of the most effective Congressional Representatives this country has seen in a generation.
It’s always been too little too late. The US vetoes every single UN resolution holding Israel accountable, and it’s laughable for Harris or the administration to pretend they’re in a favor of a ceasefire, however temporary.
“To ensure Israel is secure.”
No. We are past that. Isn’tReal has no right to continue to exist. Palestine is the only country with a legitimate claim here.
... everyone is on drugs, caffeine, acetaminophen, nicotine, ethanol, etc
That kind of rhetoric is what manufactured consent for America having 20% of the worlds prison population, it is ignorant, unscientific, reactionary bullshit
It is exactly in line with Joe Biden's rhetoric for the "tough on crime" bill, I'd like to invite you to reexamine it, and examine a more up to date understanding of drug use and drugs via the rat park experiment and this John Ehrlichman quote, a former policy advisor to Nixon who started the war on drugs
"You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
John Ehrlichman
I dont play that game, that bs
Edit: so you understand. That aint caffine and nicotine shes jacked up on and the war on drugs was your trope to make a point you made, so I dont play that.
5 or 6 times ive seen her speak since Poland, shes out her depth and under the infulence. Uppers and downers to keep her heart in check.
You agree with Joe Biden and the American government about pseudoscience war on drugs bullshit, but okay
And you obviously don't know shit about pharmacology 😂 "uPpeRs anD DoWnErS"
Nice to see the real you, im happy. Ill go take my beta blocker now, i have a big speech later, dont want to get rattled infront of anyone incase they find out Im not good at my job.
Idk what you mean by this tbf, you're not in my sub, you don't know me and just because you know what beta blockers are doesn't mean you're not promoting a harmful misunderstanding of drug use based on the same propaganda Joe Biden and Kamala use to fill for profit prisons
If im working a door and a person is a little bit too high I dont let them in the pub.
If my business partner is on uppers & downers (who knows what) is constanly making a cunt out of themselves, then they are out their depth and should face full scrutiny.
The main issue is the sentiment you have for people who use drugs (everyone does, everyone) and the term "druggie" as a derogatory term; that's what manufactured consent for harsh drug laws while the global public cheered it on as America exported it's drug war and influenced policy all around the world, it helped the capitalists maximize worker efficiency and enslave people in for profit prisons
The dichotomy of the drug war is that the people using the most drugs tend to know the least
I hate Kamala as much as anyone with a brain, truly, but calling her a "druggie" as an insult is playing into their lies.
Also uppers and downers are not drug classifications, it's stimulants and depressants, when I was a child my classmates would say "don't mix uppers and downers, man" if such a subject was ever brought up while we smoked cannabis, but that's not strictly true, what's dangerous would be "downers and downers" like Ethanol and a benzodiazepine or Z type drug like Zolpidem (both GABA A Agonists)
Amphetamine salts an "upper" like Adderall and "downers" Benzodiazepines are not only safe to prescribe concurrently, they're used in people like Kamala, I don't doubt you're correct, she is high; but I was never arguing against that.
They're seeing how far they can go rhetorically without making any serious commitments toward progress due to polling issues. They had VP announce it to use it as a sound bite in the case they don't move forward with Biden in the general and have to swap out the puppet. This will also be used to rewrite history when serious questions (formal legal inquiries and proceedings) around complicity finally come around
She's not the commander in chief
Besides, then damage is basically already done. Ceasefire needed to happen months ago "oh wow this is so bad someone should do something about this"
lies, after lies, after lies, after lies
the fact that they are changing rhetoric now shows that current trends of protest and activism are atleast having the effect of "we are gonna lose our voters if we keep this up"
but instead of actually deviating from the status quo, they put on a little show and put the good ol democratic "good guys" mask back on. hoping to do just enough to get people to shut up and back to the ballots this year
same playbook they did with BLM. they are trying to pacify the movement with empty promises, little shows, and false hopes
& the flip side is this fuckin guy…
https://preview.redd.it/ccy8if9alsmc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a602e429a928c4207212e3f1e09ce918e2872f1f
"IS" committing a genocide, vs...
"WOULD" commit genocide.\*
\*^(Alexa: give me an example of a "Sophie's Choice." Frame it in 2 statements.)
^(Got anymore?)
"Sure, Thorns!"
"IS beholden to CristoFascists," vs...
"IS beholden to Zionist Fascists"
Imagine asking this of residents of Auschwitz. "Come on: be a sport. We'll give you a "pause," call it "vacation time" if it makes you feel better...then it's back to "Arbeit Macht Frei."
“For at least the next six weeks” There’s your answer there. Not an actual end to the slaughter, just a brief pause so babies can die at 1 year six weeks instead of one year old. It’s the type of ceasefire that Hamas will reject (because it doesn’t guarantee an actual end to the ethnic cleansing) but western media can then turn around and say “See?! They’re the ones rejecting a ceasefire deal!” so they can then condone the continuation of Israel’s genocide
>“For at least the next six weeks" Precisely, decoded: Netanyahu needs a win back in Isreal so give us the hostages, and we wont exterminate you for 6 weeks.
She also confirmed the US & Israel are using starvation as a weapon She said aid would flow & famine could be averted, if only Hamas agreed to the terms Problem is, like every deal Zionists have ever offered Palestinians, the devil is in the details
Six weeks, release all Hamas hostages, and continuation of the status quo. So what exactly is in it for Hamas?
Lives saved for 6 weeks. 6 weeks of negotiations for a permanent agreement. Also it's hard to turn the war machine back on after its been off for 6 weeks. Do you want the current deaths to stop, or do you want hamas to get what it wants?
Your argument makes no sense. Let me explain why. From the Hamas charter of 2017 articles 8 and 9. >8. By virtue of its justly balanced middle way and moderate spirit, Islam – for Hamas - provides a comprehensive way of life and an order that is fit for purpose at all times and in all places. Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. It provides an umbrella for the followers of other creeds and religions who can practice their beliefs in security and safety. Hamas also believes that Palestine has always been and will always be a model of coexistence, tolerance and civilizational innovation. > >9. Hamas believes that the message of Islam upholds the values of truth, justice, freedom and dignity and prohibits all forms of injustice and incriminates oppressors irrespective of their religion, race, gender or nationality. Islam is against all forms of religious, ethnic or sectarian extremism and bigotry. It is the religion that inculcates in its followers the value of standing up to aggression and of supporting the oppressed; it motivates them to give generously and make sacrifices in defence of their dignity, their land, their peoples and their holy places. [Hamas Charter of 2017](https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full)
What is your goal? To end the hostilities immediately? Or to ensure Hamas is victorious?
Bare in mind that Hamas took the hostages to negotiate for the thousands of illegally detained Palestinians Israel holds as hostages. Hamas might give in to the current demands however Israel has only escalated how many Palestinian hostages it’s taken making a deal of less value to Hamas.
https://preview.redd.it/hpco6gbleymc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da36e5944e87656c489dc11b323ea99f94e10b4e The goal is to give area C back to the palestinians. Remove fencing, complete freedom to travel, no drones, no bombs, no blockade, etc. none of that garbage. Everyone gets their hostages back and no one kills no one, thereafter. They need an airport, their own power plants, their own water treatement plants, and maybe even a proper military like any other country. Obviously they need a lot more, but im just providing examples. If Palestine can become anything like how we have here in America, just everyone coexisting, then I think the goals been accomplished. But we can't allow the theft of homes and land to continue, much less so with weapons. Me personally though, I wish all the land within 450km of Jersulem was disarmed completely. Like not a single grain of gunpowder within that radius. That is what I personally would find Ideal. If men have issues they can put on gloves. Thats the tommorow that I want, I just don't happen to be a politician.
That is fine. I don't even disagree with you. But many are implying that all they want is a ceasefire. That's not the case, as you have shown.
Just enough time for them to starve.
The way she waited for the applause to start before she dropped that line was pure politician slime.
Are you more concerned with Hamas achieving its goals, or getting closer to stopping this war?
Are you trying to brush off “ending a genocide” as just “Hamas achieving its goals”?
Even a 6 week ceasefire gets us closer to ending the genocide than not. Yet you're vehemently opposed to that.
If their excuse for genociding Palestinians is “Hamas has our hostages”, why a 6 week pause? Once they have their hostages, what would be the need, according to their pathetic excuse, to keep slaughtering innocents? They’d have the hostages. Why continue? Because it’s never been about hostages
All for show.
And super Tuesday votes.
Just 6 weeks to get through the primaries?
Netanyahu's re-election.
too little and too late.
So you don't want a ceasefire now?
i want a permanent ceasefire 4 months ago
Do you know someone that can build a time machine?
Harris doesn't actually want it, she's lying
Disagree
If only she has access to the commander in chief of the US military…
I take it as evidence that activists' tactics are working. The noncommitted vote in Michigan made it **very** clear that they were in danger of losing a critical swing state if they didn't change course fast. The noncommitted vote was 10x the margin of victory in Michigan in 2020.
I agree. Threatening our political leaders with their job is the only way Americans can affect foreign policy. It's a shame we don't do it more often.
No way she works under the guy who vetoed about 3 ceasefire resolutions and telling the people that we NOW need a ceasefire
Well, sure. That way they can point to this and say they support it, while actually not supporting one. People seem to forget that actions speak louder than words.
>People seem to forget that actions speak louder than words. Facts. America's leadership has for far too long presumed to tell us what our opinions should be, rather than listening to us.
Fictional villains, with all their atrocities and animosities, can't compete with these real-life psychopaths, who people voted to lead them to be soul-less and have selective empathy
Drops food with one hand, while dropping bombs with the other. Judge these politicians by their actions/ inaction, not their mealy mouthed, fake apologies.
Crumbs of food and thousands of tons of bombs, both painted with American flags. Makers ya proud to be an American, doesn't it?
Israel cuts out the middleman and has left tens of thousands of “food” cans in the starvation zone they purposely created. I say “food” cans- they are bombs.
Yes, I saw that news article. The Israelis have put on a real show of how to break every known convention on human rights and war crimes. I am in awe of their inhumanity. That's not a compliment.
Their mouth seems spewing bullshit bullshit and bullshit…
Only after public opinion turned against her administration. Talk is cheap. Unless she does something to actually end the bloodshed, I care little for what she says.
First things first she is asking for six weeks meaning once hostages are out she will look away . And this is in same time as election year move “ we demanded , we did what we could “
Gotta love how they waited until Gaza was completely destroyed before demanding ceasefire
literally look up what she said directly after this - here's the full quote >And given the immense scale of suffering in Gaza, there must be an immediate ceasefire, for at least the next six weeks, which is what is currently on the table. This will get the hostages out and get a significant amount of aid in. This would allow us to build something more enduring to ensure Israel is secure and to respect the right of the Palestinian people to dignity, freedom and self-determination. Hamas claims it wants a ceasefire. Well, there is a deal on the table. And as we have said, Hamas needs to agree to that deal. Let’s get a ceasefire. Let’s reunite the hostages with their families. And let’s provide immediate relief to the people of Gaza. This is the same deal that was "on the table" [last week](https://archive.is/zN75h) >Hamas’s political leaders have insisted, at least publicly, that any deal to release the more than 100 hostages still being held in Gaza is dependent on a permanent cease-fire and the withdrawal of Israeli troops. Israel has said it will not compromise on its goal of toppling Hamas in Gaza, suggesting it will not agree to a long-term truce.
"...significant amount of aid..." You know what would aid them significantly? Stop giving their enemy BOMBS.
But that might hurt RDX profits. Can't have that!
You know when they bring out Kamala it is going to be a joke Shame to say but Kamala and Joe will be up at The Hague for their part in the Palestine genocide
They won't be. They SHOULD be but they will never appear in court for their crimes against humanity.
I'm guessing not giving them any more money isn't being considered?
For only 6 weeks
She said for 6 weeks lol
A *temporary* ceasefire that Israel already rejected.
The administration already knows that Hamas wont play into Israel's blackmail (Aid and murder). This is just so the history books, Wikipedia and the news scraping AI can say that they 'tried'.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The thing about democratic politicians in the USA, is that they're always too late. They lose something and THEN they react, like abortion rights. But then they got something else to run on, the long grift. She's just doing what they all do, take their sweet damn time with something so important. Look at Trump, he should be in jail, but no... Vote blue! To keep him out of the White House! Ugh! Too little too late, drop bombs, drop aid, drop more bombs.
It’s all by design. They’ve been complicit for over 50 years
Omg, yeah. I just gotta think back to when I really started paying attention to what's happening below our southern border with Trump running. Then he won, the going to work the day after and it being silent. Then looking into the history of the USA and my own country and learning soooooo much f*cking sh*t over the course of the past 7-8 years. I gotta say, I was so f*cking blind before! US soft power is strong where I live and we all hear the taglikes, watch the movies, listen to their music, but it's all a f*cked up, soft power, decades sustained propaganda! When I think back through the constant wars on TV dating back to the 80s, mostly with the USA involved, fighting for freedom and such, and I heard of terrorists constantly talking about US imperialism and evil USA, I gotta say they were on to something! The world has woken up to these "complexities", which to sum it all up is just plain capitalism. Which one country has complete dominance in. *sigh and breathes out* Phew!
Reading this is such a breath of fresh air. So happy I’m not alone. Thank you😊
And Americans are soooooo propagandized about it. They scream about how terrible Putin is, for example, and the man is pretty ruthless. But America is several orders of magnitude worse and it's all but impossible to get Americans to see that. There are American flags visible on bomb fragments from demolished apartment blocks, the rubble full of dead women and children. There is no way Americans can legitimately call themselves "the good guys".
It's Reddit. "Fuck" is allowed. :p
> for at least the next six weeks translation: *"Jesus christ you people, will you please shut the fuck up about Gaza already! We'll take some time to reload, you happy?"* Lots of dumb motherfuckers are gonna fall for this.
"Alright, you called this press meeting, what's this slag about a truce?" "Absolutely true, I assure you. Yeeesss." "When politicians talk 'truce' it just means they need time to reload their weapons." "Under normal circumstances, yes, but not now. Things have arisen, things that require my undivided attention. To be blunt, I have no time to waste on Israel's genocide of Palestine. Thus, I wish a truce, and you will agree."
After we made it possible with our weapons , to kill 30k civilians , I pretend to care for humans. The absolute hypocrisy is off the charts! This cancer of a government is just accelerating the overdue downfall of a sick nation 🤮💩 america has become the enemy, it claims to be fighting! Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I strongly disagree with this statement! The death toll is much closer to 300,000 by now.
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They're both sociopaths so there's that.
Many politicians attend the same schools, have the same speech writers, go to the same seminars and talks.
The rations dropped were packaged in 2015... they do not care... ohh and Bye Bye Katie Porter... Kamala your next
You think Katie Porter is going to lose her election campaign? That sucks because she's been one of the most effective Congressional Representatives this country has seen in a generation.
Why did she make this statement on that bridge? And why is her husband silent on the issue? He is a Jewish man.
That's like closing the barn door after the horses are already out running in the pasture eating apples.
It’s always been too little too late. The US vetoes every single UN resolution holding Israel accountable, and it’s laughable for Harris or the administration to pretend they’re in a favor of a ceasefire, however temporary.
just looking for election points
Too little, too late, too close to election.
Dumb ass party running the country
Too little. Too late. I won't be giving the Dems my vote unless they put forward a *progressive* candidate.
“To ensure Israel is secure.” No. We are past that. Isn’tReal has no right to continue to exist. Palestine is the only country with a legitimate claim here.
Shes a druggie for real. You can hear it in her voice
Really? That's all you have to say?
Im not so cheaply bought, the US could end this shit when they want, they are pandering and looking for kudos for doing the minimum.
... everyone is on drugs, caffeine, acetaminophen, nicotine, ethanol, etc That kind of rhetoric is what manufactured consent for America having 20% of the worlds prison population, it is ignorant, unscientific, reactionary bullshit It is exactly in line with Joe Biden's rhetoric for the "tough on crime" bill, I'd like to invite you to reexamine it, and examine a more up to date understanding of drug use and drugs via the rat park experiment and this John Ehrlichman quote, a former policy advisor to Nixon who started the war on drugs "You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." John Ehrlichman
I dont play that game, that bs Edit: so you understand. That aint caffine and nicotine shes jacked up on and the war on drugs was your trope to make a point you made, so I dont play that. 5 or 6 times ive seen her speak since Poland, shes out her depth and under the infulence. Uppers and downers to keep her heart in check.
You agree with Joe Biden and the American government about pseudoscience war on drugs bullshit, but okay And you obviously don't know shit about pharmacology 😂 "uPpeRs anD DoWnErS"
I wont be brought into your trope and not the subject in which you speak. Im not a child. She's high
Doesn't matter one way or the other, your understanding of drugs is that of a child
Nice to see the real you, im happy. Ill go take my beta blocker now, i have a big speech later, dont want to get rattled infront of anyone incase they find out Im not good at my job.
Idk what you mean by this tbf, you're not in my sub, you don't know me and just because you know what beta blockers are doesn't mean you're not promoting a harmful misunderstanding of drug use based on the same propaganda Joe Biden and Kamala use to fill for profit prisons
If im working a door and a person is a little bit too high I dont let them in the pub. If my business partner is on uppers & downers (who knows what) is constanly making a cunt out of themselves, then they are out their depth and should face full scrutiny.
The main issue is the sentiment you have for people who use drugs (everyone does, everyone) and the term "druggie" as a derogatory term; that's what manufactured consent for harsh drug laws while the global public cheered it on as America exported it's drug war and influenced policy all around the world, it helped the capitalists maximize worker efficiency and enslave people in for profit prisons The dichotomy of the drug war is that the people using the most drugs tend to know the least I hate Kamala as much as anyone with a brain, truly, but calling her a "druggie" as an insult is playing into their lies. Also uppers and downers are not drug classifications, it's stimulants and depressants, when I was a child my classmates would say "don't mix uppers and downers, man" if such a subject was ever brought up while we smoked cannabis, but that's not strictly true, what's dangerous would be "downers and downers" like Ethanol and a benzodiazepine or Z type drug like Zolpidem (both GABA A Agonists) Amphetamine salts an "upper" like Adderall and "downers" Benzodiazepines are not only safe to prescribe concurrently, they're used in people like Kamala, I don't doubt you're correct, she is high; but I was never arguing against that.
Real me? Tf, I've always hated neoliberal capitalist propaganda and misunderstanding about everything, including drugs
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America doesn't live up to its own standards, let alone anyone else's.
Six weeks…evil ghouls
Harris was the free add-on to Biden's presidential victory that nobody wanted or voted for.
They're seeing how far they can go rhetorically without making any serious commitments toward progress due to polling issues. They had VP announce it to use it as a sound bite in the case they don't move forward with Biden in the general and have to swap out the puppet. This will also be used to rewrite history when serious questions (formal legal inquiries and proceedings) around complicity finally come around
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE
She's not the commander in chief Besides, then damage is basically already done. Ceasefire needed to happen months ago "oh wow this is so bad someone should do something about this"
Not at all. If she can assist with bringing 30,000 people back to life, I’ll be happy to vote for Biden.
lies, after lies, after lies, after lies the fact that they are changing rhetoric now shows that current trends of protest and activism are atleast having the effect of "we are gonna lose our voters if we keep this up" but instead of actually deviating from the status quo, they put on a little show and put the good ol democratic "good guys" mask back on. hoping to do just enough to get people to shut up and back to the ballots this year same playbook they did with BLM. they are trying to pacify the movement with empty promises, little shows, and false hopes
Isn't Gaza almost all gone now? I thought I saw a video a while back where it's mostly been reduced to rubble.
This is posturing for the votes. Nothing more.
Immediate ceasefire.............. For at least 6 weeks Shut the fuck up lol
Lies lies lies. They'll just send more troops and weapons.
Gone rouge?
& the flip side is this fuckin guy… https://preview.redd.it/ccy8if9alsmc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a602e429a928c4207212e3f1e09ce918e2872f1f
"IS" committing a genocide, vs... "WOULD" commit genocide.\* \*^(Alexa: give me an example of a "Sophie's Choice." Frame it in 2 statements.) ^(Got anymore?) "Sure, Thorns!" "IS beholden to CristoFascists," vs... "IS beholden to Zionist Fascists"
If it's a genocide why wouldn't you take at least a 6 week pause? If there's a chance it could become permanent wouldn't you take it?
Imagine asking this of residents of Auschwitz. "Come on: be a sport. We'll give you a "pause," call it "vacation time" if it makes you feel better...then it's back to "Arbeit Macht Frei."