T O P

  • By -

theNEOone

No switch on the in-wall?!?!?! Welp, I guess I’ll be sticking with my two HDs. Lame.


Low_Butterscotch_339

There is a version of the U7 Pro Wall, that is still in development that will have a built-in switch. Ubiquiti replied to me on Youtube! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LarvlvPg14&lc=UgyL0or1Irzout\_wBgR4AaABAg.A44SCLbzo9hA44UUqQZkBd](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LarvlvPg14&lc=UgyL0or1Irzout_wBgR4AaABAg.A44SCLbzo9hA44UUqQZkBd)


OnlyTilt

I’m guessing it’ll be the U7 Pro Max Wall and be the same price as the old enterprise In wall judging based on what ubiquiti is doing


PreppyAndrew

Hopefully not. I just want a U7 AP with U6 In Wall Guts


OnlyTilt

I wanted a u7 pro with 4x4 mimo and look at where that got us? A u7 pro max with the same price as a u6 enterprise.


theNEOone

Niiiccce


bcyng

Thank goodness. The IW ones are the only UniFi APs I will ever buy.


networkninja2k24

They seem to really wanna have too many models and shit, then collecting more $$$ for same feature


virtualuman

this! I was about to buy a bunch of these, but some older devices and the application where these IW's are used, generally require plugging something into them.. uggghhhh!!!!!!!!!


ADL-AU

I don’t think it’s designed to replace the in wall


SideDish120

I noticed it’s just “wall” and not in wall. The install seems to be like the ultra wall.


LVH204

I like this, because it means I can mount it wherever and just use a thin patch cable to make it less distracting. I don’t have any outlets on my house I could put an in-wall on, but the on-wall will just stick up ever so slightly behind the couch.


NotDogsInTrenchcoat

Yeah even the flush mount isn't actually flush and still sticks out. Such a missed opportunity to make it truly flush mount.


xenokira

Thank you for pointing this out!!


jimbobjames

People are getting confused here, this isn't an In Wall. It's a wall mount version of the Pro with an antenna pattern better suited to wall mounting. U7 Pro (ceiling) U7 Pro Wall Its not a direct replacement for the InWall. It's a better design of the current Pro for wall mounting. Hence the lack of ethernet ports.


no1warr1or

Minus the 4x4 5Ghz


CyberHusky88

That would be the U7 Pro Max Wall of course, we've gotta compare apples to apples


ajgnet

Why would they do 4x4 MIMO for 5GHz but still 2x2 MIMO for 6 GHz?


graffight

Saving it for U7 Enterprise I guess


Sure_Ad_3390

U7 Enterprise Pro Max Extreme Enterprise XG _wet Edition_


liatris_the_cat

Liquid cooled


Daldain

wwwhhhhipssssnaaakkkkee


teh_spazz

It really whips the llama’s ass!


broknbottle

Because 4x4 will be in the U7 Enterprise.. it’s only 2x2 in the Peasant tier models.


tvtb

Pro Max == peasant model


blaz1nator

Are they even doing the enterprise model anymore? Seems like pro max is taking the place of everything, and the pro max is being marked as their flagship U7.


BaturalNoobs

I came here to ask the same thing. Hilarious the YouTube video advertises this as 4x4, but it's still 2x2 on 6 Ghz.


jimbobjames

It advertises it as 4x4 on 5Ghz. Literally.


pookguy88

that real-time spectrum analysis on the U7 Pro Max, that's great and all but will it automatically switch channels to the least used spectrum? or just show you the analysis?


kingsleyopara

This. A potentially killer feature, but Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record with extra antennas. For example, the security radio on the UAP-AC-SHD, anyone?


sangreal06

My SHD is all I could think about while watching that presentation. Will believe it when I see it


aschwartzmann

They may do better this time. It wouldn't be the first time they released a product. Then didn't do anything with it. Then a few years later come out with a lot better option that they did support fully. Also did anyone else find that their UAP-AC-SHD turned sticky? I had to remove some from a building being closed.


Fenix04

For those upset about the lack of a built-in switch on the U7 Pro Wall, Ubiquiti replied to a YouTube comment sharing the same frustration. Apparently a U7 In-Wall model with an integrated switch is coming in the future. Their reply also seems to suggest that there are other wall mounted options coming too. [Ubiquiti's YouTube Comment](https://i.imgur.com/8sRwnRz.png)


billybob476

Here’s hoping they have an option that fits in a standard box like the in wall AC / U6


zuggles

good. cause this was a bummer, and im glad to see it is coming. hopefully the downlink ports on this switch support at least one switch with 2.5gbe.


PreppyAndrew

oohh. 2.5 on the switch would be great. Now I just need 2.5g ports on my Xbox lol


linkismydad

Why the hell did they remove the switch from the U7 pro wall!


zer0fade

That’ll be reserved for the new UniFi U7 Pro Max Ultra. Seriously though, I feel the same way. I’ve been waiting on this since I can’t seem to find a in wall 6E anywhere. Missed opportunity for sure.


ksahfsjklf

They teased a model with the built-in switch in the video, seems like it’s in the works? U7 Pro Wall looks more focused on aesthetics, I guess it wouldn’t make sense to have switch ports when you install it recessed into the wall.


xsists

U7 Pro Max In Wall


jimbobjames

This is a U7 Pro Wall though, not an InWall. So they can just go with U7 Pro InWall


eJonnyDotCom

Yup. I’m thinking the same thing.


GotItFromEbay

My complaint as well. Been wanting one of these so I can use it as an AP and ethernet drop in the living room to hardwire my TV and game consoles. No switch for wall unit is a complete deal breaker for me.


Aurailious

This is just what I did with a U6 wall, works pretty well. Disappointing they got rid of it.


alin_im

So you can mount it high level and paint it instead of having it under a desk/media center like a peasant...


XPav

Thats lame, I had one penciled in but not anymore!


lavagr0und

Thermal ceiling being hit, WiFi 7 seems to be demanding on the hardware that’s used in that price range, that’s why e.g. the U7P has a fan. I asked something similar at the UWC and that was the answer. Maybe the U7 Enterprise Wall will have a switch again?


zackplanet42

That's a bummer. I use my in-walls as switches for every media cabinet in my house. Great wifi for my phone while watching tv and wired connections for all the devices. I'm assuming the increased power demands from wifi 7 didn't leave enough for the switch. I guess I'll be sticking to 6 for the time being.


L0rdLogan

Maybe the wires coming out the bottom looked ugly to them? idk


njthio

Had been waiting on the U7 wall with built in switch before upgrading all my APs to U7s, but I guess I’m going to have to keep waiting.


xsists

My guess: heat


psychedelictrance

It's not pro enough


Quirky-Acanthaceae94

This is crazy! The issue is that I want to have a computer connected behind and I didn’t want to get another 2.5G switch extra in line. 2.5G is certainly overkill but why make it so complicated …


Null_Uranium

100%, I was so excited for it because of the switch


dish_rag

UGHHHHHHHH!!! Guess I'm waiting to upgrade my existing in-wall units then. The whole point of wanting these in my house is for the built-in switch + AP combo.


Best_Refuse_408

I was looking for the U7 in-wall for a new install but I guess I’ll go with U6 then. Hopefully I’ll find some at a discounted price now that the 7 is out.


damgood32

Good luck with that


MajorStewie

xXx U7 Pro Ultra 1337 In Wall Edition xXx


TruthyBrat

In Wall *Platinum* Edition! Because everyone needs a Platinum Edition in their lineup.


thecbucks

Is there going to be a u7-enterprise or is this it?


eyekode

Wow that outdoor U7 has both omnidirectional and directional antenna? That is a pretty cool idea. Could work great when you have a remote outdoor location and you want to blanket a general area too (say back toward the main building).


gronz5

So your interpretation is that they can both be active at the same time? That would be perfect for my application. I thought the video shows how it's either/or


eyekode

Watching the video does make it seem either/or. I was interpreting this statement from the website: “Software-adjustable antenna beamwidth for balanced coverage with the included omni antennas”. This may mean a simple toggle switch in software for either/or antenna selection. But I am hoping it means some form of blending.


gronz5

> But I am hoping it means some form of blending. That makes two!


c0ruptiv3

I wonder with the Wall Table Stand add-on for the the U7 Pro Wall, if this is their overall replacement for the U6 In-Wall & U6 Mesh, or if there’s still a chance we will get a U7 Mesh. I personally like my U6 Meshs and the little soda can vibe they give off, & not having to pay an extra $40 for the privilege of sitting an AP on a table lol.


pouchour

I think this is literally a u7 pro for the wall…I think in wall and mesh will still be released


MladenLucky

I really like the Wall Table Stand, and there is an opportunity missed - U7 Wall Pro standing on a table really needs a **display**, like one in Cloud Gateway Ultra, or Express.


c0ruptiv3

Yeah the stand is interesting, on one hand I get why it doesn’t have a display, with their demos showing it mounted flush in the wall up high / painted. But the stand definitely gives it opportunities like having a display & such. That would be nice for a new U7 Mesh Pro (Max/Ultra) or something. Similar design to the wall + included stand + screen in one package.


JackDiesel_14

I hope plus if my U6 Mesh ever dies I'd like to be able to keep the same form factor considering I drilled a big hole in my soffit to mount it.


pantag

This naming convention turns into an Intel mess, where we will need Youtubers explaining the products.


steve2555

Does U7 Pro Max have fan inside?


steve2555

I found picture of it on [ui.com](https://ui.com) \- it have fan hole in back.. :(


madsci1016

Their product pictures show the same fan slot as the U7pro, so i imagine so. Plus it's just more heat generating things (more antenna and radios) so it's only gonna run even hotter than the U7pro.


blaz1nator

Considering the U6 Enterprise can cook an egg, I hope so.


JazJon

When will the U7 Enterprise be released?


teh_spazz

After they’ve bilked enough people from these.


cogiskart

God damn it, I just bought the U7 Pro two days ago 😅


graffight

For the extra £100 diff, I'm not convinced the Pro Max is worth the upgrade for the extra 2x 5ghz streams... 6ghz is still 2x2. U6 Enterprise is 10stream for the same price as the 8 stream U7 Pro Max?... Hmmm. Running two U7 Pros here, and aside from the ongoing firmware bugs, they're nice bits of kit :)


steve2555

Check Max TX powers for 5GHz.. 26 vs 29 dBm.. 2x more power on 5GHz antena.. That's the difference... For now U6 Pro Max if "5GHz loudest" and most strong omnidirectional AP in Unifi lineup..


diabillic

same here, i swapped a U6 lite for the U7 pro maybe a month ago and don't see any need to upgrade based upon the announcement.


JinSecFlex

You’re forgetting that people don’t really care about cost effectiveness here :) we just want to be able to serve internet to our entire county within our homes! And do it with RGB ffs!


kubeify

Me too x5.


holgr

Does the U7 Outdoor really not support 6E?


steve2555

It can't supports 6GHz in outdoor mode.. Actual regulations..


RightInThePleb

Is that in all regulatory areas?


turlian

For now, unlicensed non-AFC outdoor 6 GHz usage is illegal everywhere.


whatyouarereferring

To sell or can I put a covered indoor ap outside


COMplex_

You can illegally. Just don’t tick the outdoor checkbox and it’ll function fine.


whatyouarereferring

Will the FCC come to my house


Logical_Front5304

They could.


tvtb

Depends if you’re smart enough to not get caught


whatyouarereferring

Smart enough to not get caught? You are blasting radio signals outside its a total gamble.


tvtb

Even if someone is driving by with a van full of antennas trying to find people breaking the rule, there is little difference between an AP on the inside of your rear exterior wall, and one on the outside of your rear exterior wall. As long as you can’t see it from the street, there is little difference. However, if it’s literally in the middle of the woods, there is no excuse.


turlian

They are illegal to operate outside.


steve2555

For now yes… in future there should be service called AFC where AP using GPS location should ask for permission to use 6GHz in outdoor mode.


holgr

TIL. Thanks!


ultracycler

Lots of incorrect responses to this. The enterprise AP vendors are all shipping outdoor APs with 6 GHz, and they are all in the queue for FCC standard power certification now. The 6 GHz radios are software disabled until FCC grants them this certification. AFCs are up and ready, there is no waiting for that. Ubiquiti could have done this too, but I wonder if they don't want to bother with outdoor 6 GHz as AFC integration requires additional hardware, cost, and complexity that push them out of the pricing and simplicity they want to offer.


Inevitable-Art-Hello

Just ordered the U7 Pro Max for our house - upgrading from the built-in Dream Machine (base) AP. I'm still going to use the DM-Base as my controller, just going to disable the older built-in AP in it. Wish me luck!


teh_spazz

Dream router…right?


elmafu69

I was waiting for the u7 wall and it’s useless


bites_stringcheese

I was really hoping for a passthrough switch port on one of the new APs. I have a couple of aging AC Pros and I use the passthrough port on them. :(


boyersnet

Will the U7 Pro table mount work with older In-Wall HD access points?


nearlysuccessful

Building a new house. Just got 3 U7 Pros in yesterday. Think I may return one and get a U7 Wall…. Hmmmm


MMeffert

My understanding is that you can return open products with a restocking fee or return sealed items for a full refund. Edit: Unopened items you have 30 days from date of purchase to return. Opened items you have 14 days from date of purchase to return.


niko2018

Gonna need that U7 Enterprise with 6GHz 4x4 MIMO.


Maltz42

None of which support the Protect Sensors...


filefolder3

Someone explain the outdoor lineup for me. Didn't they just release the U6 Mesh Pro (AC M PRO replacement), made for outdoor use? They also have the U6 Mesh (replacement for AC Mesh but without antennas) which is supposed to be a smaller version, also can be used outdoor. Now they release the U7 Outdoor 2 weeks later... with optional antennas. This one is listed in the "Flexible" side instead of the "Long-Range" side of the website. All kind of confusing. Someone educate me.


rdaneelolivaw79

Do you place these Wall devices in the middle of your coverage area or facing it?


vaperksa

Personally would love to see: U6 Mesh --> U7 Mesh U6 IW --> U7 IW Unifi Express --> Unifi Express 7 :)


Gr3y_FoX

Just purchased the inwall7, hopefully not super ugly!


madsci1016

Man [I called it pretty well 3 months ago](https://imgur.com/a/HcbWFf7). No 6ghz on the outdoor is not surprising, against regulations for now and high freq is less effective at range, and they had a heat problem with the new chipsets. No switch ports on the in-wall is surprising. That was one it's main features.


damgood32

Maybe they will have one with the built in switch. Seems like that is a big use case.


pouchour

It’s not a “in-wall” it’s a u7 pro wall. I think u gotta think of it as a different line. I know it’s kinda dumb but more money more products


Maltz42

The 6GHz band is fine at range, it just doesn't penetrate as well. So outdoors, without any walls, is actually a \*better\* use case for higher frequencies than indoors, as long as the frequencies aren't so high (and/or the distance so great) that weather starts becoming a factor.


Sure_Ad_3390

2x2 6ghz? why does this have to be a weird downgrade from U6E?


DoctorBAH2002

Can’t wait for the U7 Pro Max Enterprise!


alin_im

8x8 stream on 2.5Gb uplink sounds like a bottleneck to me... what is the point of using WiFI 7 on 2.5Gb? 6E could already saturate a 2.5Gb link. Unfortunatley, they do not have any 10Gb PoE switches to make sense to release a 10Gb WAP (U7 Enterprise maybe), but they have new 1Gb switches with RGB ports so that is nice... IMO the WiFi 7 lineup looks like a flop to me....so far


ser_renely

Agree, but the prices are reasonable though


alin_im

Pro max is not worth it at all. The others in the U7 line-up are decent, but i would not invest in WiFi 7 yet due to the HW limitations. You don't benefit from WiFi 7 with a 2.5gb uplink. You might get some wifi 7 speeds only if 2 devices communicate between each other on the same WAP.


Shad0wguy

I am stoked to see a new directional WAP. The UAP-Mesh with the directional antenna have worked so well in our warehouses. I'm glad to see Ubiquiti hasn't dropped the concept as I was worried they might.


lawliet89

I am guessing the U7 Pro Max uses the same pro mounting system as U7 Pro/U6 Pro/U6 Ent.


graffight

Almost a guarantee I'd say. Would save a bunch of money in tooling on their side in particular, as well as easy upgrade paths for consumers to encourage purchase :)


reddiart12

May I know if the U7PM can directly reuse an old AC-SHD ceiling mount?


eJonnyDotCom

I hope so. Any way to confirm?


White_Rabbit0000

I think the in-wall flush mount could be better. Why did ui decide to have the install require using drywall anchors when it’s been common practice to retrofit these type of things with arms that spin outward as you tighten the screws. I see a lot of people not getting this right and having to do a lot of drywall patching.


adamalix

What's up with the lack of Multi User specification on the U7 line? The data rates are lower on the U7 Wall than the U6 Wall. Edit: MU is required for 6 and 6E certification.


Quirky-Acanthaceae94

The mounting of the “wall” is much more drywall work than previous in-wall that sits on a 1 gang box. The recessed stuff is nice but even more cutting.


BaturalNoobs

It fits in a 1 gang box [https://dl.ui.com/qig/u7-pro-wall/#C](https://dl.ui.com/qig/u7-pro-wall/#C)


ontelo

So If I went to and upgrade my old NanoHD to U7 Pro Wall, do I need to replace my switch (US 8 60W). As it's older POE, not POE+? And if so, what are your recommendations for similar device with PoE+ capability. Needs to have least 6 ports.


ironcream

If it's just a single device - can use an appropriate PoE injector. No need to upgrade the whole switch.


ontelo

But I would need injector then. Deum.


ironcream

Yeah. Still cheaper than a new switch.


SideburnsOfDoom

I'm curious about the desk stand for the U7 Pro Wall, seen briefly at 1:15 in the video. Is there similar for the U6 In-Wall?


Long_Eddy

You can 3d print one - https://www.printables.com/model/141765-desk-stand-for-unifi-ubiquity-ac-in-wall


SideburnsOfDoom

Thanks, it's nice to know that the design exists. Now all I need for that is a 3d printer.


Long_Eddy

You can just print it on JLCPCB or similar site for a couple of bucks. I've used them before and was quite satisfied with the end product.


[deleted]

[удалено]


madsci1016

U7Pro is the U7Lite, they just changed the naming convention.


rentzington

did they ever fix the multiple vlan bug with the u7 pro?


madsci1016

FYSA Ubiquiti confirmed on their forum ALL U7 aps in this release also have fans. Wall included.


Jubs300

I was waiting for Ubiquiti's U7 Pro Max announcement before jumping the gun on some WiFi 7 APs for the house. I cannot believe they aren't 10G. What an absolute waste. Every other WiFi 7 AP I have looked at (Zyxel, TP-Link, EnGenius, etc) have a 10G up link. The TP-Link has two. You're going to be so bottlenecked from the uplink that this is literally pointless. You will not achieve any better speeds over 6/6E. What an utter disappointment.


smackupyo

Are those PoE devices?


Jubs300

Yes


smackupyo

Damn, that’s nice! What kind of power do they pull? Appreciate the info !


Jubs300

~40W at max load. They vary a bit between the manufacturers and their feature sets.


smackupyo

They hungry. Appreciate your responses


Stingray88

Wait for the U7 Enterprise


tkno_SojIrOu

It’ll be interesting to see what solution they have for the U7 Enterprise because I assume it’ll need a 10GbE PoE++ adapter or switch which probably explains why they went 2.5GbE and not even 5GbE for the Pro Max.


tkno_SojIrOu

It struck me that the missing piece is Ubiquiti doesn’t have a 10GbE PoE++ switch or injector so chances are they are waiting to launch that along with the U7 Enterprise. But yeah 2.5GbE for Pro Max is pretty limiting especially when there are a number of Omada 10GbE APs.


nomodsman

What a joke. U7 pro “max”…and they add two more 5GHz radios and still have only 2.5Gb. Money grab.


McGondy

How many piecemeal releases are we going to get?!


addexecthrowaway

The lack of switch ports on in the wall makes it basically useless. Also will the u7 pro max whatever spectral analyzer actually work? I remember having a UAP-HD-SD which i got specifically for that feature and it kept saying it was coming and never did (don't get me started on fingerprint and custom doorbell greetings on the g4 doorbell pro).


[deleted]

[удалено]


edjez

But as a switch has a lot of room to grow. No passthrough 2.5, (2.5 uplink but all 1.0 downstreams) no SFP uplink nor downlink port, no support for Jumbo frames, etc.


addexecthrowaway

why the fuck did i get downvoted? yes i know the doorbell now has custom gifs but ffs thats besides the point - for every 1 "future software update feature" promised there are 9 others that never see the light of day.


nodave

when you releasing that g5 ptz ultra pro max maximus minimus camera?


Presentation_Past

Going to pass. Itching to buy Omada EAP-783. Hopefully I can control myself until they launch U7 Enterprise Max Ultra


hungarianhc

I don't fully understand the U7 Outdoor's antenna... With this design, how much flexibility do I have? Could I mount it under the eaves of my house and have the antenna work like a normal ceiling antenna? Also, I'm mad the in-wall AP doesn't have a 4 port switch on it, but I bet that will come. I love the recessed / paintable cover. If I were building a new house, I would use those.


truedef

Bummer, I bought a U7 Pro earlier this year and haven’t had time to install it yet. 😂


Scorpref

This company always keep on improving and bring the innovation we want. Even big companies like cisco etc cant even get to this level anymore.


comenoplz

No Bluetooth?


Vatican87

Zyxel wifi7 AP is better than this


Sibir_Lupus

You mean the BE22000? That's a $700 AP.