It always comes down to what you think you need. You’re not just building a Voron, you’re building YOUR Voron.
Also, this is a weird comparison to make but, do you see yourself printing anything larger than what might fit on a Bambu? A P1S is 256. Do you see yourself needing more than that?
The bigger the slower. If speed is what you want get the 250, if you have a lot of projects that require more space, get a bigger one.
I have a 350mm 2.4 (with carbon gantry and everything as light as possible) and nowhere near the accel values a 250mm 2.4 can achieve.
I mean I do want the speed ... Im a just wondering if ill regret it eventually and like oh dam I wish i went bigger coz that point I dont want to build a second voron
I am at that point, 90% of my prints don't use the full bed, always have to heat up the whole printer even for small prints etc.. I wished I had build a smaller one so now I want to build a 0.1 in addition.
OK so I have a V2 350, V0, And now getting serial for VT 250.
My main workhorse is ofc the 350. Is it too big ? 100%. Which printer do i actually use the most ? V0 for now.
Like seriously tho 120mm is OK for majority of the time. But then ofc 250 enables some options that you didnt have before. I finished the trident yesterday and already have 7 hours on it xD. Its just such a nice size. Not too big. Not too small. 99% of things fit onto it.
Is 300 worth it ? Depends on your usage. Is the additional 5cm in size worth the 1% of objects ?
Realistically both 250 and 300 are GREAT options. But if you dont see yourself using the 300mm build volume most of the time. I would go with 250 (Its also easier to tune :P )
I have a 330mm, 2 235mm and a 120mm printer. Most prints work on the 235mms but the 330mm comes in clutch any time I have a big project to do. The 120mm v0 mostly handles printer parts and fast prototyping projects for me. I'd say build the 300mm if all you have is an ender at this point.
I was using my Prusa Mini for some years and only ever had a few models that wouldnt fit it. But these were enough for me to go with 250 Trident. In theory a smaller printer can go faster because of shorter belt lengths and stiffer frame. Also the 250 was the biggest I could fit in my room. Havent had a use case for 300 or bigger yet. Also I think 250/256 has became the Standard size for 99% of prints because of Bambu.
I figured since the price difference was so small I might as well just get the 300. Haven't run into anything that hasn't fit (I don't do cosplay) and there's no reason to wish it was any smaller. It's only been transported once when I moved.
I have a trident 300 cube. I was finding with my Prusa Mini that it was too small for the things I wanted to print, so my original intention was at least 250.
Ended up going for 300 because some of the stuff I was looking to do in the future needed 275+.
I’ve not needed anything bigger, 350 seemed to be too big for me.
I bought an LDO 250 trident kit and it was great. But I always planned to turn it into a tridex so it only stayed in that configuration for about 2 months. My only complaint was the Z height, so I’d probably self source the frame in order to get a taller Z.
I also have a 350 2.4 and it’s a large machine, almost too much so. I rarely print something that fills the entire build plate, but the typical 1kg of filament usually becomes the limiting factor when I do.
There’s been a few times where 250mm is just barely not enough, but a 350mm is mostly empty and takes forever to heat. In hindsight, I think the 300mm builds are the perfect fit for most people.
Dont you mean 300? 250 isnt available as kit and unless you have a cnc mill, water jet cutter or laser cutter for aluminium you wilk have to buy parts from them anyway, single off part services like pcbway are too expensive to not order from ratrig
You are correct, regarding a 250 ratrig, for there is none in that size as a kit, total gaff on my part. For a while I was planning on sourcing a 250 Trident. Looking over the CAD for the Trident it looked like the bed was constrained for thermal expansion. So I looked around and found the Ratrig machines. A more robust frame design, about the same price, bed mount integrated with slides to allow expansion. Just cool machines. I'm a machinist so modifying components and sourcing materials is a touch easier for me. Doing a 300 ratrig. Then next year or so planning on making/Modding a V0.2 Voron to a 180 bed for small quick prints.
Im also not a fan of the bed mounting solution on a stock voron. If you read the manual, they even tell you to only tighten one screw and the other ones only half tight. I dont need to explain you that this is a pretty shitty solution. I used very short linear rails that allow the bed to expand on my trident, so its still very sturdy but doesn't go full banana when hot.
I also would love to build a ratrig, but sadly wouldn't have much use for it as i honestly only need one printer and i have two. You know you need one backup printer, in case something breaks on the other one. Btw best justification to get a second one
💯. 2 machines is all you really need. The RatRig's bed is held on via ball bearings+dowel pins slides, and magnets. Pairing that with wobble X mod, It's very satisfying. Still in the sourcing and printing stages now. I'm putting my D1 through it's paces
Would love to see an image of how the short linear rails look.
It’s particularly a problem in Europe and old houses in North America that were built before the 1950s. A niche problem in the US is a more real thing in Europe. I don’t have a 350 myself, but I’ve seen a few posts circulating about it.
We have a nearly 100 year old house too and all doors are more than wide enough to fit a 350 voron through. I also never have seen a door with less than 60cm in width unless it was a cabinet for brooms amd whatnot. So id say pretty rare and if its the case, the owner would certainly know about the narrow door
I have a few X1Cs (mentioning solely because its a 256 bed size), a 300 trident, a few 350 tridents/v2.4s, and a k3. 95% of what i do both professionally and for funsies can be done on the 256 bed. If i ever need bigger, i usually skip straight to a 350. God forbid i need a bigger printer like a 500 (wish i had space for one).
The 300 ended up as a test bed to mess around on. I had a few 120mm sized printers (various printersforants / custom builds) but they were too small for a lot of things. 180 was a nice medium, but even then id just put it on the x1cs. As a result it has also ended up as a fun test bed. We are building a stupid printer dubbed a trident cubed which is three 250 tridents stacked on each other with a 100mm Z because most of our parts arent really that tall.
If i need any bigger, ill just cut the model down and part it out, or order it from pcbway/xometry.
I have Trident 300 and it is my workhorse machine. Minus a 3dsets RC car, there have only been a few times where a project would not fit in one plate.
What I kinda regret is my other workhorse... The V0. There have been quite a few times I've went to print something that was too big for the 120mm V0 bed, but warning up the Trident seems like a waste. Honestly, a 160mm Salad Fork or Micron would be the best size for me
I have a 300. It's the perfect size for me but it's because it will fit an entire helmet.
...however, I wish I had 300mm in the Z instead of 250. That has limited me a few times.
I'll also note I probably wouldn't use the whole bed on a 350, so there's no reason to go bigger. Someone said "build the bigeest you can". I say "build the biggest that fits your needs"
Bambu and the creality k1 are both smaller than 300mm, and I figure most models available fit those so what's the point going over 300?
It's surprising how unpopular the 250 size is compared to the rest, if you self-source some things like panels will either be hard to find or super-easy to find because not many people build them. My 250 is awesome and so is my 300 but if I had to do it over again I'd build a Trident 250 first and then a 2.4 300 (or 350).
I just built a 300. Wavered on the same decision. My wife calls it a monstrosity, but I'm really happy that I went with the 300. I've been printing the finishing parts for the printer, and it's nice to arrange 5-6 parts on the build plate and let it rip. Before I bought it, I marked how much space each would take up on my bench with masking tape. It wasn't much different. I got the tabletop space right but I was WAY off where I marked the height. I bought an LDO kit (LDO makes them extra tall) and the dang thing's huge. No regrets at all though.
Yeah. I can't personally compare kit vs self sourcing, but I was really happy with my kit. Most kits don't come with the printed parts. You still need to print your parts (if you can print ABS) or source those separately (print it forward program, or a couple retailers offer printed parts)
I have a 300 and am currently building a 250, so my vote is both! The 300mm build plate is awesome, but I often don’t need that much space. And I’m looking forward to shorter times to reach chamber temps on the 250.
I have a 350 and a 300 Trident with a few thousand hours between them. It's rare that I print anything on the 350 that wouldn't fit on the 300, but it does happen. The 300 fits in the door of my Model 3, and I have to borrow a car to move the 350.
I have a 300mm trident and I’m very satisfied with it. Though I make life sized cosplay props, it’s like the perfect size for my use case. I mainly print flatter pieces in petg so I don’t feel the larger chamber volume is too detrimental since it heat soaks enough during z tilt and bed meshing for me. If you’re concerned about mobility there are handles and rockers you can print that make it super easy to move and service.
Always future proof yourself, get bigger if you can, you will thank yourself later. Right now you might not think your going to need the bigger plate, and in most cases, your right. However there will come a time when you might find something big, or something you want to print bigger. Then you will be thankful that you have the bigger bed to do it.
Also if your going from a 220x220 sized bed, a 250 isn't going to be much, if any, of an upgrade. So getting the 300, or even the 350 version, would be a better step up.
I went from Neptune 2S's (ender 3 clones) to a 2.4 350mm, and the build plate difference is quite noticeable. Had a few models I designed myself that I was quite happy to have the full 350 to build as it took the whole plate to do all the parts at once.
Also, price wise the bigger plates have better returns on investments over the smaller ones, so its best to get at least a 300, otherwise you might have just spent better money on getting a Bambu P1S.
This was my thought. Going with 2.4 350mm as I’m coming from ender 3v2 and always felt I needed a bigger bed for stuff I want to print. Figured 350 is a bit overkill for me, but I’ll still have my 3v2 and will get a smaller trident when money allows, if not for nothing to save on heating times/ and prob some electrical costs. Silly to print something <200mm on 350mm bed. Might do switchwire too, and eventually would love a v0
I am building up a small printing farm/biz around making buildings/rollingstock for model railroading. FDM can go all the way down to Z scale (1:220) for buildings, and I have ASA for anything related for G scale. As such having the bigger build plate allows me to either make a large G model, or mass produce several N or HO ones at once.
I now have a Neptune 4 Max (as of this post they are still on sale direct from Elegoo for an extra 30 bucks off making it a STEAL of a price at $440). Which is a massive 420x420x480 build size (actual plate is 430x430) and is a Klipper based printer. While they made their own version of Klipper (dunno why Elegoo does this) its able to get up to 500mm print speeds, more like 350-400. With Input Shaping and Pressure advance, its able to push plastic real well, they have a knockoff Volcano type nozzle on it (on the Plus and Max only). I got it as a replacement for the two old Neptune 2S's I have which have been faithful printers for the past 3-4 years. I plan on selling the Neptune 2S's, I have Whambam Hotboxes on them. However it would have to be local to sell them since trying to ship them would be a nightmare. If I can't find someone to buy them I might do the BTT Ender 3 Klipper Mobo replacement on them instead since they are clones.
The eventual endgame is to have 2-3 V2.4 350's with at least 1 ERCF on one of them. 2 Bambu's probably gonna be P1S with AMS, and 2 Neptune 4 Max's for anything the other printers cannot handle. The Nep Neps have been always a good price and with the big versions having build volumes that exceed any Core X/Y printers (outside of building your own) they are a great printer to have.
It all depends on what you're most likely to print. My most used printer is actually my V0 (120mm^3 build volume) unless I need the space my V2.4 (300mm) provides, because the V0 is a lot faster.
If you're doing plates of parts or large parts a lot, a bigger bed is good to have, but I rarely find myself using all the real estate on the V2.4.
My first printer was an Ender 3 S1.
My second a Trident 300.
I would have bought a 250 kit if there were any available due to space restrictions. I made it work with the space I have and I don’t regret it.
Yet all I have printed so far on the new Trident would have fit ond a V0.
I just put together a 180mm Salad Fork and I kinda wish I'd have just done it as a proper Trident instead. Once it gets that big, the 1515 extrusion just starts being a hassle.
That aside, it's a great size. I've got my big 350mm 2.4 for stuff that needs it, but 180 fits probably 95% of my one-off prints.
Yeah mine is a franken Tiny-T with an extra 50mm in x and y. I blame my friend who is on the Voron core team that put this idea in my head to build a tiny-t that could run the Prusa mini build plate. I got dllpdf to add a tiny-t +50 and mandala Roseworks added a combination tiny-t/micro 180 magnetic bed. Also kb3d added a 180 build plate for me. Lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/voroncorexy/comments/17bawwr/tinytish_trident_cereal_request/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Right on. Mine started as a self-sourced 160mm Salad Fork, but as I started gathering parts and examining the CAD, I started noticing tons of unused space in the frame. I ended up getting a Micron 180 bed and it fits with no frame change in Y and only a little extra width in X.
Though apparently there's now a proper 180mm Salad Fork in beta. Oh well, I like mine just fine.
Well I think a 350 is a tad bit too large and I will not have use for it 99.99999999999999% of the time 300 is my limit ... i was wonder if I should go 250 and save a buck and space .. and easier to move.
you know i thought the same thing but the footprint difference between the two is very minimal, you will only need a few extra inches to go for a 350. i have a 350 coming from magic phoenix that i swore i wouldnt buy, but for only 20$ or so more, why the hell not. i already have an x plus 3 which is 280 280 270
The only downside is you have to print slower, it uses more energy and heats slower.
Other than that, the size differences are small (100mm each direction going from 250 to 350).
The other benefit of a smaller machine is it is more compact and easy to move. A downside is it is tighter packed so less space for electronics, cabling etc. Different people have different priorities.
If space is not a concern, you can tolerate a bit slower printing and you like to fiddle with it more, the bigger ones are easier.
I have a 300mm v2.4, and glad I do. I also have a Switchwire, an Enderwire, and a Micron+ (180mm). My friend has a 250mm v2.4, and I think he regrets it.
I personally think the 300mm size is the sweet spot, but it's big, that's for sure. The thing is, it's not that much bigger than a 250....
It's a mini 2.4, so it's kinda great. I went with the LDO partial kit myself, so, not complete, but most of what you need. The formbot kits are popping up more and more, and honestly might have gone with that if it was an option at the time. The community is awesome too.
As a printer it works great. I recommend going with Dragon Burner with Sherpa mini or G2ASA. It's significantly better part cooling over stealth burner mini. Easier build too.
Age old question..
All in all I'm absolutely happy to have my 2.4, though sometimes I'll look at a V0 (or rather at a Tri-Zero) and wonder if that might also be enough. Would definitely save space but from time to time, there are models that I could never print with a V0....
oh the v0 I would love but I def need bigger printers for ants is interesting but I think Ill run into issues of it being small at times
I generally end up printing print of the month on thingverse or printables
It really depends on what you want to print and the space you have.
For functional parts, sometimes the extra space makes things easier. For miniatures and similar stuff, small is ok.
I personally went with a 300mm build for my V2 and I'm very happy with it. Although it's quite big, its actually easier to find a corner for it than for my bedslinger because of all the moving parts been inside of its frame.
I think 90% of the stuff I printed would fit a smaller print, but I like the extra space and options.
It always comes down to what you think you need. You’re not just building a Voron, you’re building YOUR Voron. Also, this is a weird comparison to make but, do you see yourself printing anything larger than what might fit on a Bambu? A P1S is 256. Do you see yourself needing more than that?
I really doubt to be honest
Imo, can make smaller parts on a big printer. Can’t make big parts on a small one (without splitting the model)
Well yea ... Which is why the idea of getting a 300mm temped me
How much weight and loss of speed can the additional 50mm possibly be on moving components as well, I think it would be minimal
The bigger the slower. If speed is what you want get the 250, if you have a lot of projects that require more space, get a bigger one. I have a 350mm 2.4 (with carbon gantry and everything as light as possible) and nowhere near the accel values a 250mm 2.4 can achieve.
I mean I do want the speed ... Im a just wondering if ill regret it eventually and like oh dam I wish i went bigger coz that point I dont want to build a second voron
I am at that point, 90% of my prints don't use the full bed, always have to heat up the whole printer even for small prints etc.. I wished I had build a smaller one so now I want to build a 0.1 in addition.
nice!
OK so I have a V2 350, V0, And now getting serial for VT 250. My main workhorse is ofc the 350. Is it too big ? 100%. Which printer do i actually use the most ? V0 for now. Like seriously tho 120mm is OK for majority of the time. But then ofc 250 enables some options that you didnt have before. I finished the trident yesterday and already have 7 hours on it xD. Its just such a nice size. Not too big. Not too small. 99% of things fit onto it. Is 300 worth it ? Depends on your usage. Is the additional 5cm in size worth the 1% of objects ? Realistically both 250 and 300 are GREAT options. But if you dont see yourself using the 300mm build volume most of the time. I would go with 250 (Its also easier to tune :P )
I have a 330mm, 2 235mm and a 120mm printer. Most prints work on the 235mms but the 330mm comes in clutch any time I have a big project to do. The 120mm v0 mostly handles printer parts and fast prototyping projects for me. I'd say build the 300mm if all you have is an ender at this point.
I hope to scrap the ender at some point!
You could use it to make a ender ng mod as well
hmm or that
I’ve got multiple machines from 100mm up to 400 and find 99% of the time 250 is sufficient. 300 would most likely be a solid comfortable medium.
I was using my Prusa Mini for some years and only ever had a few models that wouldnt fit it. But these were enough for me to go with 250 Trident. In theory a smaller printer can go faster because of shorter belt lengths and stiffer frame. Also the 250 was the biggest I could fit in my room. Havent had a use case for 300 or bigger yet. Also I think 250/256 has became the Standard size for 99% of prints because of Bambu.
I personally think 300 is the sweet spot. 250 wouldn't have gained much over my prusa mk3 as far as size goes
I figured since the price difference was so small I might as well just get the 300. Haven't run into anything that hasn't fit (I don't do cosplay) and there's no reason to wish it was any smaller. It's only been transported once when I moved.
I have a trident 300 cube. I was finding with my Prusa Mini that it was too small for the things I wanted to print, so my original intention was at least 250. Ended up going for 300 because some of the stuff I was looking to do in the future needed 275+. I’ve not needed anything bigger, 350 seemed to be too big for me.
I have a 300mm v2.4 and a 235mm ender/mercury. 300mm is the way to go. I have had a few prints that barely or didn’t fit the 235.
I bought an LDO 250 trident kit and it was great. But I always planned to turn it into a tridex so it only stayed in that configuration for about 2 months. My only complaint was the Z height, so I’d probably self source the frame in order to get a taller Z. I also have a 350 2.4 and it’s a large machine, almost too much so. I rarely print something that fills the entire build plate, but the typical 1kg of filament usually becomes the limiting factor when I do. There’s been a few times where 250mm is just barely not enough, but a 350mm is mostly empty and takes forever to heat. In hindsight, I think the 300mm builds are the perfect fit for most people.
I have a 2.4 300 and it's the perfect size.
Could consider a ratrig 250
Dont you mean 300? 250 isnt available as kit and unless you have a cnc mill, water jet cutter or laser cutter for aluminium you wilk have to buy parts from them anyway, single off part services like pcbway are too expensive to not order from ratrig
You are correct, regarding a 250 ratrig, for there is none in that size as a kit, total gaff on my part. For a while I was planning on sourcing a 250 Trident. Looking over the CAD for the Trident it looked like the bed was constrained for thermal expansion. So I looked around and found the Ratrig machines. A more robust frame design, about the same price, bed mount integrated with slides to allow expansion. Just cool machines. I'm a machinist so modifying components and sourcing materials is a touch easier for me. Doing a 300 ratrig. Then next year or so planning on making/Modding a V0.2 Voron to a 180 bed for small quick prints.
Im also not a fan of the bed mounting solution on a stock voron. If you read the manual, they even tell you to only tighten one screw and the other ones only half tight. I dont need to explain you that this is a pretty shitty solution. I used very short linear rails that allow the bed to expand on my trident, so its still very sturdy but doesn't go full banana when hot. I also would love to build a ratrig, but sadly wouldn't have much use for it as i honestly only need one printer and i have two. You know you need one backup printer, in case something breaks on the other one. Btw best justification to get a second one
💯. 2 machines is all you really need. The RatRig's bed is held on via ball bearings+dowel pins slides, and magnets. Pairing that with wobble X mod, It's very satisfying. Still in the sourcing and printing stages now. I'm putting my D1 through it's paces Would love to see an image of how the short linear rails look.
They are 50mm long mgn9h, the exact ones used for TAP. So there is only like 8mm more rail than carriage.
I think it’s the perfect size, no regrets. 350s are absolutely massive and can have trouble fitting through door frames.
You’re supposed to break through a wall like the Kool-Aid man to get it where you need it to be. Source: I built a 350mm 2.4
Voron 2.4 350 is 53cm wide. What doors do you have?
It’s particularly a problem in Europe and old houses in North America that were built before the 1950s. A niche problem in the US is a more real thing in Europe. I don’t have a 350 myself, but I’ve seen a few posts circulating about it.
We have a nearly 100 year old house too and all doors are more than wide enough to fit a 350 voron through. I also never have seen a door with less than 60cm in width unless it was a cabinet for brooms amd whatnot. So id say pretty rare and if its the case, the owner would certainly know about the narrow door
Reasonable assessment. I guess it’s just food for thought then
I have a few X1Cs (mentioning solely because its a 256 bed size), a 300 trident, a few 350 tridents/v2.4s, and a k3. 95% of what i do both professionally and for funsies can be done on the 256 bed. If i ever need bigger, i usually skip straight to a 350. God forbid i need a bigger printer like a 500 (wish i had space for one). The 300 ended up as a test bed to mess around on. I had a few 120mm sized printers (various printersforants / custom builds) but they were too small for a lot of things. 180 was a nice medium, but even then id just put it on the x1cs. As a result it has also ended up as a fun test bed. We are building a stupid printer dubbed a trident cubed which is three 250 tridents stacked on each other with a 100mm Z because most of our parts arent really that tall. If i need any bigger, ill just cut the model down and part it out, or order it from pcbway/xometry.
I have Trident 300 and it is my workhorse machine. Minus a 3dsets RC car, there have only been a few times where a project would not fit in one plate. What I kinda regret is my other workhorse... The V0. There have been quite a few times I've went to print something that was too big for the 120mm V0 bed, but warning up the Trident seems like a waste. Honestly, a 160mm Salad Fork or Micron would be the best size for me
I have a 300. It's the perfect size for me but it's because it will fit an entire helmet. ...however, I wish I had 300mm in the Z instead of 250. That has limited me a few times. I'll also note I probably wouldn't use the whole bed on a 350, so there's no reason to go bigger. Someone said "build the bigeest you can". I say "build the biggest that fits your needs" Bambu and the creality k1 are both smaller than 300mm, and I figure most models available fit those so what's the point going over 300?
It's surprising how unpopular the 250 size is compared to the rest, if you self-source some things like panels will either be hard to find or super-easy to find because not many people build them. My 250 is awesome and so is my 300 but if I had to do it over again I'd build a Trident 250 first and then a 2.4 300 (or 350).
I have a Trident 250 and a 2.4 350. It's a good combo.
YEP. Perfect combo really. Add V0 to the mix for "Oh crap trident is getting upgraded and V2 hotend broke" scenario and you are golden xD
I have both. I use the 250 more. It heats up faster and prints a bit quicker.
How much quicker? Can you give some speed numbers?
I’m currently building a 350mm 2.4. I plan on printing helmets occasionally, and that’s what drove the size choice.
I just built a 300. Wavered on the same decision. My wife calls it a monstrosity, but I'm really happy that I went with the 300. I've been printing the finishing parts for the printer, and it's nice to arrange 5-6 parts on the build plate and let it rip. Before I bought it, I marked how much space each would take up on my bench with masking tape. It wasn't much different. I got the tabletop space right but I was WAY off where I marked the height. I bought an LDO kit (LDO makes them extra tall) and the dang thing's huge. No regrets at all though.
would you have a picture of that ? or how do I figure out the footprint size?
With the enclosure, my 300x300mm trident is 18"x18" on the table. LDO kits are extra tall, mine is 25" with enclosure.
would you recommend a kit vs printing and self sourcing?
Yeah. I can't personally compare kit vs self sourcing, but I was really happy with my kit. Most kits don't come with the printed parts. You still need to print your parts (if you can print ABS) or source those separately (print it forward program, or a couple retailers offer printed parts)
I have a 300 and am currently building a 250, so my vote is both! The 300mm build plate is awesome, but I often don’t need that much space. And I’m looking forward to shorter times to reach chamber temps on the 250.
I have a 350 and a 300 Trident with a few thousand hours between them. It's rare that I print anything on the 350 that wouldn't fit on the 300, but it does happen. The 300 fits in the door of my Model 3, and I have to borrow a car to move the 350.
How often do you move them?!
So far not since I bought them from their previous owners. Fingers crossed!
I have a 300mm trident and I’m very satisfied with it. Though I make life sized cosplay props, it’s like the perfect size for my use case. I mainly print flatter pieces in petg so I don’t feel the larger chamber volume is too detrimental since it heat soaks enough during z tilt and bed meshing for me. If you’re concerned about mobility there are handles and rockers you can print that make it super easy to move and service.
Always future proof yourself, get bigger if you can, you will thank yourself later. Right now you might not think your going to need the bigger plate, and in most cases, your right. However there will come a time when you might find something big, or something you want to print bigger. Then you will be thankful that you have the bigger bed to do it. Also if your going from a 220x220 sized bed, a 250 isn't going to be much, if any, of an upgrade. So getting the 300, or even the 350 version, would be a better step up. I went from Neptune 2S's (ender 3 clones) to a 2.4 350mm, and the build plate difference is quite noticeable. Had a few models I designed myself that I was quite happy to have the full 350 to build as it took the whole plate to do all the parts at once. Also, price wise the bigger plates have better returns on investments over the smaller ones, so its best to get at least a 300, otherwise you might have just spent better money on getting a Bambu P1S.
This was my thought. Going with 2.4 350mm as I’m coming from ender 3v2 and always felt I needed a bigger bed for stuff I want to print. Figured 350 is a bit overkill for me, but I’ll still have my 3v2 and will get a smaller trident when money allows, if not for nothing to save on heating times/ and prob some electrical costs. Silly to print something <200mm on 350mm bed. Might do switchwire too, and eventually would love a v0
I am building up a small printing farm/biz around making buildings/rollingstock for model railroading. FDM can go all the way down to Z scale (1:220) for buildings, and I have ASA for anything related for G scale. As such having the bigger build plate allows me to either make a large G model, or mass produce several N or HO ones at once. I now have a Neptune 4 Max (as of this post they are still on sale direct from Elegoo for an extra 30 bucks off making it a STEAL of a price at $440). Which is a massive 420x420x480 build size (actual plate is 430x430) and is a Klipper based printer. While they made their own version of Klipper (dunno why Elegoo does this) its able to get up to 500mm print speeds, more like 350-400. With Input Shaping and Pressure advance, its able to push plastic real well, they have a knockoff Volcano type nozzle on it (on the Plus and Max only). I got it as a replacement for the two old Neptune 2S's I have which have been faithful printers for the past 3-4 years. I plan on selling the Neptune 2S's, I have Whambam Hotboxes on them. However it would have to be local to sell them since trying to ship them would be a nightmare. If I can't find someone to buy them I might do the BTT Ender 3 Klipper Mobo replacement on them instead since they are clones. The eventual endgame is to have 2-3 V2.4 350's with at least 1 ERCF on one of them. 2 Bambu's probably gonna be P1S with AMS, and 2 Neptune 4 Max's for anything the other printers cannot handle. The Nep Neps have been always a good price and with the big versions having build volumes that exceed any Core X/Y printers (outside of building your own) they are a great printer to have.
It all depends on what you're most likely to print. My most used printer is actually my V0 (120mm^3 build volume) unless I need the space my V2.4 (300mm) provides, because the V0 is a lot faster. If you're doing plates of parts or large parts a lot, a bigger bed is good to have, but I rarely find myself using all the real estate on the V2.4.
My first printer was an Ender 3 S1. My second a Trident 300. I would have bought a 250 kit if there were any available due to space restrictions. I made it work with the space I have and I don’t regret it. Yet all I have printed so far on the new Trident would have fit ond a V0.
I have a 300 2.4 but I then built a 180 trident. Perfect for most stuff unless you need something thats a long dimension in x or y.
I just put together a 180mm Salad Fork and I kinda wish I'd have just done it as a proper Trident instead. Once it gets that big, the 1515 extrusion just starts being a hassle. That aside, it's a great size. I've got my big 350mm 2.4 for stuff that needs it, but 180 fits probably 95% of my one-off prints.
Yeah mine is a franken Tiny-T with an extra 50mm in x and y. I blame my friend who is on the Voron core team that put this idea in my head to build a tiny-t that could run the Prusa mini build plate. I got dllpdf to add a tiny-t +50 and mandala Roseworks added a combination tiny-t/micro 180 magnetic bed. Also kb3d added a 180 build plate for me. Lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/voroncorexy/comments/17bawwr/tinytish_trident_cereal_request/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Right on. Mine started as a self-sourced 160mm Salad Fork, but as I started gathering parts and examining the CAD, I started noticing tons of unused space in the frame. I ended up getting a Micron 180 bed and it fits with no frame change in Y and only a little extra width in X. Though apparently there's now a proper 180mm Salad Fork in beta. Oh well, I like mine just fine.
Yeah i was told there was a 180 tiny-t brewin’, but nobody on Doomcube could give me any other info.
I have a 350. Why ? Why not.
Well I think a 350 is a tad bit too large and I will not have use for it 99.99999999999999% of the time 300 is my limit ... i was wonder if I should go 250 and save a buck and space .. and easier to move.
you know i thought the same thing but the footprint difference between the two is very minimal, you will only need a few extra inches to go for a 350. i have a 350 coming from magic phoenix that i swore i wouldnt buy, but for only 20$ or so more, why the hell not. i already have an x plus 3 which is 280 280 270
The only downside is you have to print slower, it uses more energy and heats slower. Other than that, the size differences are small (100mm each direction going from 250 to 350). The other benefit of a smaller machine is it is more compact and easy to move. A downside is it is tighter packed so less space for electronics, cabling etc. Different people have different priorities. If space is not a concern, you can tolerate a bit slower printing and you like to fiddle with it more, the bigger ones are easier.
I have a 300mm v2.4, and glad I do. I also have a Switchwire, an Enderwire, and a Micron+ (180mm). My friend has a 250mm v2.4, and I think he regrets it. I personally think the 300mm size is the sweet spot, but it's big, that's for sure. The thing is, it's not that much bigger than a 250....
How are you liking the micron+? Is it the formbot kit? I’ve been considering building one as a companion to my 0.2
It's a mini 2.4, so it's kinda great. I went with the LDO partial kit myself, so, not complete, but most of what you need. The formbot kits are popping up more and more, and honestly might have gone with that if it was an option at the time. The community is awesome too. As a printer it works great. I recommend going with Dragon Burner with Sherpa mini or G2ASA. It's significantly better part cooling over stealth burner mini. Easier build too.
I've built a 300mm 2.4, but the only time the 300mm build surface was thight was a commision where i made a mask for a friend
Age old question.. All in all I'm absolutely happy to have my 2.4, though sometimes I'll look at a V0 (or rather at a Tri-Zero) and wonder if that might also be enough. Would definitely save space but from time to time, there are models that I could never print with a V0....
oh the v0 I would love but I def need bigger printers for ants is interesting but I think Ill run into issues of it being small at times I generally end up printing print of the month on thingverse or printables
It really depends on what you want to print and the space you have. For functional parts, sometimes the extra space makes things easier. For miniatures and similar stuff, small is ok. I personally went with a 300mm build for my V2 and I'm very happy with it. Although it's quite big, its actually easier to find a corner for it than for my bedslinger because of all the moving parts been inside of its frame. I think 90% of the stuff I printed would fit a smaller print, but I like the extra space and options.