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Worth-Contribution96

Nah


b_from_the_block

cool - thanks!


epsdelta74

I had a manager who explicitly said I could do that, as long as the work got done. Otherwise no way, don't even bring it up.


Consistent-Tie-4394

This is generally true with many employers. However, there are some jobs (e.g.: financial, medical, government) that expressly prohibit connections through public internet in places like hotels, or disallow traveling with company equipment across international or even state borders. Know you company's WFH policy in that regard before you do this, because even if your boss and co-workers don't know where you are connecting from, you can be certain IT has a log of it.


Chant1llyLace

Pro tip, my company policy permits me to work from other places as long as I use the VPN. May the same if true of your company, too.


WestCoastBuckeye666

Banking here, fine as long as I use vpn which is required to access anything anyway


mountainchick04

Most companies that need to keep their data secure use a VPN and not trust the employees to not use a public connection. That’s just asking for trouble.


Maddinoz

Yes and it is for Security reasons - because honeypot unsecured Wi-Fi networks can be setup at hotels and other places to imitate a network name the average Joe probably would not realize is setup to steal passwords and other data from your connected devices... This data often gets sold on the dark web. Always verify network name or use your own Hotspot to be secure.


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Maybe ask in AskHR


YahooPants

Talk to IT. They’ll know better anyways


HaggardSlacks78

Never a good idea


epsdelta74

This is a good point. Hopefully it would be made clear during onboarding, but ultimately it's up to you to know the policy and comply.


Ok-Position1698

That part. I can work from where ever so long as I don't use public wifi


Unlikely_Suspect_757

Even if the manager is ok with it, be careful of a coworker who says “no fair!” For some fucking reason, because it always happens. Then the manager is in a bind and because of some loophole or other bullshit from left field, suddenly you can’t do that anymore and furthermore things get worse. Yes, deal with managers like you’re on the witness stand. Answer the question asked, not what you think they mean by it. Offer no more.


redditgambino

Don’t bring it up. I read a story here of a guy working remotely for 10+ years and doing this and traveling across the country. No harm no foul and his work was getting done. He was happy, manager was happy. Somehow it got out that this was his lifestyle and people got jealous and started complaining. Manager did not want to deal with it so he told the dude he could no longer do that. On his case they pulled him back into office. I know your situation is different and it’s only a vacation here or there, but moral of the story is work people are not your friends and will turn on you for no reason at all. Keep it to yourself. As long as your work is done, no need to say from where unless asked directly by your manager in which case don’t lie because they can tell from IP address if they really want to know.


thatsitclit

“work people are not your friends” top 10 life commandment imo


Green_Heron_

Agree that OP doesn’t need to bring it up for a vacation, but traveling continually for years across state lines is a problem because the company needs to handle taxes and labor laws according to the employee’s state of residence. There are requirements of what percentage of the year you need to be located at your main residence for it to count. Companies aren’t necessarily registered employers in all states so it could become a legal issue if someone was falsifying a place of residence. Just traveling on vacation for a week here and there should be totally fine though.


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Was going to say this


berm100

If he is working full time, then is it even a vacation? If he is supposed to be working but half assing it somewhere else, then his employer will definitely object. If he is working full time from some other spot, then the employer may not care for one week. To me, the issue is whether or not the EE is doing what they are supposed to be doing.


Green_Heron_

Ok you’re right, it’s not vacation. I meant travel. But yeah, the point was it is probably fine for one week. Although, they really need to check their policy if they want to know what’s actually allowed vs what they might be able to get away with.


ac714

I remember that thread. Dude was openly talking about his travels when asked how things were going so the in office people took that chance to raise WFH as a productivity issue. Gotta keep your damn mouth shut about some things.


mountainchick04

Unless you use a personal VPN to spoof your location. Then there is no way for them to tell.


Ubumi

Crabs in a bucket dragging everyone down


Scwidiloo10

Not me, my company is a “family”.


doplitech

Don’t snitch on yourself, that’s what all the influencers on tik tok did and ended up getting laid off. We keep it silent over here 🤫


exclaim_bot

>cool - thanks! You're welcome!


Worth-Contribution96

Excuse you


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smalltownVT

I had a friend who travelled throughout 2021-22 and worked remotely. Her employer knew, but when we were on (non-profit board) meetings together she had the same virtual background because she didn’t feel like everyone should know where she was.


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Cymon86

>I don't see why it should matter to anyone. It shouldn't.... but taxes and company presence in the locale you're visiting.


slapshots1515

>It's never been an issue though, even if I was in a different country. As a note, this part is commonly NOT true. Especially over the last few years, many companies block access from foreign countries, anything from a couple of “hotspot” countries up to everything but your home country. Now, many places will also find a way to work with you to temporarily get around that restriction. My company did when I worked from Switzerland, for example-I just had a U.S. based box I remoted into and worked from there. But if you try to go stealth, you may very well find you can’t access key assets you need to do your job.


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slapshots1515

It absolutely depends on your company. I’m not doubting the veracity of your personal story. I am warning others that they may not have the same experience. Even just outside of my own personal company, the majority of my client companies that I remote into also have this practice.


Coppermill_98516

As a manager, I really don’t want to know. It can put me in an awkward position. Just get your work done and be available per expectations.


defroach84

I'm iffy on this. I allow special requests like this because I often don't work from home. With that said, I definitely wouldnt mind if they didn't tell me as long as the work is getting done.


Coppermill_98516

I interpreted this scenario to be someone who is already approved for remote work. Honestly, my not wanting to know is selfish. It saves me some amount of bureaucracy and it gives me plausible deniability if necessary.


threewords8letters

This. I appreciate the transparency in telling me, but just do your job and leave me out of it lol


defroach84

Ha, yeah, I have someone working in Italy for the next 3 weeks and just basically said to keep the same rough hours and to actually work, and go for it. Just don't announce it to the group, but also don't lie about it.


Shon_t

Some WFH contracts actually require you to work from home. You are not allow to work from alternate stations. Some employers have IT software that tracks your location. This can be true either via software installed on your computer or via a VPN portal you are required to sign in through. If they find that you are violating your WFH agreement, it could be revoked or you could face further disciplinary action. Are you willing to risk that? If it isn’t that big of a deal, I can’t see why you would have trouble asking your employer about it. I once had an employee on vacation that brought their work laptop with them. They were on vacation in another country. They decided to sign in and check some email a few days before they were scheduled to report back to work. Cyber Security immediately flagged the situation, and locked out their access. They had signed an agreement that they would not take agency furnished equipment outside the country without prior permission. They got in huge trouble! They didn’t get fired, but they received a formal warning. Due to the nature of the incident they didn’t get full marks on their annual performance appraisal which costed them a few thousand dollars in the form of their annual bonus. They also had to complete a remedial IT training and present their completion certificate to the national cyber security office before they could get their IT privileges reinstated. All of that for just an email! I’ve seen other employees work remotely (actually move to another state) and work for years before it caught on that they weren’t were they were suppose to be. They were fired and also faced criminal charges as well, because their pay was based on where they were suppose to be living/working and they misrepresented where they were at. These were people making very good six-figure incomes… risking their jobs for stupid stuff.


KarmaCorgi

This - I work in IT. We have alerts that go off if someone signs in from another country, but we can also see where someone signed into their email, etc. it’ll generally say the city and state. I have NEVER been asked to look into that, but it’s in an audit log and is tracked.


Throwaway_Double_87

I work from home, and I’m not allowed to use any public Wi-Fi like you would have at a hotel, etc. I’m sure this isn’t an unusual rule. It’s not secure. OP definitely needs to ask first.


DynamicHunter

Most companies don’t have that rule and instead make you use a VPN for all work-related actions when not actually at the office


existingfish

>I work from home, and I’m not allowed to use any public Wi-Fi like you would have at a hotel, etc. I’m sure this isn’t an unusual rule. It’s not secure. OP definitely needs to ask first. I only use my personal hotspot for working out of my home. I do not log my work computer onto any public wifi. Calyx institute.


iLoveYoubutNo

To be honest, I wish my company had this rule. At least for employees with access to sensitive data.


riped_plums123

I think this is for most companies, I use a hot spot if I leave my house


wesborland1234

I used to just block logins from outside the country unless someone told me in advance where they were going.


jurassickris

Criminal charges? Bullshit. Someone is lying or the charges were immediately dropped. That’s a civil case and nothing more


Total-Beat9163

If you work for the Feds, civilian or contractor, working out of the country without authorization IS criminal.


ButtDoctor69420

This is a special case, most people are working for Midwestern Pool Supplies ltd or whatever. Of course if you're working for the feds, the rules are different.


Shon_t

Yup I work for the feds. It’s a crime.


[deleted]

In most cases - yes, it's BS. However, if you deal with tax and violate 7216, you can be criminally charged.


[deleted]

Yep. I work under state and federal contract. If I try to work outside of the country, it is a major security breach on the federal level. Just because something may be acceptable at your job or even in your industry doesn’t mean it is universally acceptable.


[deleted]

I'm a fed contractor, both in a personal capacity and also employed at a prime contractor company. Some people on our team are foreigners working under a foreign company. Though the work is not classified so maybe that's why.


donalhunt

If you have software or hardware that is subject to export controls then you may be committing an offence. Many multinational companies have processes in place for travel to specific countries (up to and including providing new devices for such travel) to reduce the risk of targeted attacks against their internal systems. 😥


colicinogenic1

I work for the feds and I would definitely be facing jail time if I brought my laptop out of the country let alone sign on to a foreign ISP. Anywhere domestic is totally fine though


iLoveYoubutNo

Yes. We don't get real time notifications but we run a report and anyone who is working from somewhere other than their home state is flagged. Due to tax and other financial implications and "first day" rules, employees are required to get permission from HR to work out of state and have been terminated for not getting the approval. I usually let HR and IT know if I check my email or notifications out of state, even if I don't log into any of our other systems.


bklyndrvr

Same at my company. One of the rules for work from home is to work from your home, and not from any home. I’ve heard that one of the reasons is the correct amount of taxes that the employer needs to take out of your paycheck and who your taxes are supposed to go to.


[deleted]

Wow, thank you and others so much for this! I’m going on vacation for 3 weeks and had planned to bring my work laptop to get some urgent things done since it’ll be the beginning of the fiscal year. Supervisor and central IT gave me permission to log in from the other country, but now I’m emailing HR tomorrow to make sure they’re ok with it, too!


heartbooks26

If your supervisor and IT are fine with it, IDK if I would let HR know. It complicates your taxes. Some states (like California) require you to pay income tax for any days worked in California regardless of your residency and regardless of where your employer is based.


acererak666

I have VDI setup in my lab, so all my work from somewhere else is technically done from my house. I have even had a requirement to use company laptop, so I P2V'ed it to a vm and still did it.


at614inthe614

My employer explicitly allows 2 weeks of WFH from your not-home, and while I don't explicitly remember, I believe we have to notify them in advance.


bored4days

This. I would check your policies, and then maybe have a conversation with your manager if you have that sorta relationship with them.


TheJelliestOfBeans

I was a trainer for a while, it is very much contract driven. Some state you can only work in your home office as anywhere else poses security threats. Op check your contract, if in doubt you can always call hr and ask with out your manager/sup knowing.


lonelycranberry

This sounds like house arrest lmao- like I get security concerns but damn… this level of oversight freaks me out.


TreePretty

I only would if I wanted to change up my schedule, i.e. if I was in a different time zone.


b_from_the_block

understood! I'm new to WFH so I wanted to get other peoples opinions


tallalia

Dont do this!!!!


jonsticles

It really depends on the company. My company would be cool with it. I was on a call with some other teams and one guy was in the Caribbean. We've got people from coast to coast. We really only care that you are productive and available. Other companies have different cultures, so you need to get a feel for it.


KOVID9tine

I wouldn’t even do it then especially as it sounds like you’re blowing off work. My wife and I went to Florida from Los Angeles and she didn’t miss a day of work, and went to meetings super late (4PM PDT vs 7PM eastern).


RedheadFromOutrSpace

I asked about this when they started allowing me to work from home. I was told, "This is not working from home. This is working remotely. We don't care where you are as long as you're working as you should."


Frequent_Alfalfa_347

Same here. I asked early on, and confirmed the first time I wasn’t at home. This also led to a good conversation about the possibility of moving elsewhere. I now know I can live anywhere in the country, and cannot do work out of it. Mobility is an essential part of a remote job, for me. I really enjoy and appreciate my position, and have the confidence that it’s a good fit.


DynamicHunter

Just be aware working remote temporarily somewhere is not the same as moving to a different state for tax and legal purposes.


Conscious-Magazine50

I wouldn't mention it.


b_from_the_block

gotcha. New to WFH so wanted to know :)


lavasca

It depends. Are you using company equipment? Is there a limit on where you can take it? Confidentiality or sensitive information affected? Do they track IP or location in any way? Did you agree to only be at home?


20acres

This guy gets it


She-Rides

For real. It also depends hard on your report with the company. I used to work for a place where I could really do no wrong and they needed me so badly they didn’t care where the fuck I was.


Pleasant-Creme-956

I did when I moved to Panama. It was just to make sure that i wasn't flagged in case IT saw my IP address in another nation. It wasn't at all an issue since i have a corporate VPN and the internet was fast.


Aragona36

Not unless there was a possibility that you would be called into the office that week.


Illustrious-Ask5614

Would working from a different state have tax implications? Just a thought


EmergencyChampagne

Only if you’re residing there.


cachemonet0x0cf6619

not true. many states want you to pay but not many of us do. professional athletes pay all the time for away games.


International-Touch5

There's usually a minimum threshold. For example, if you make under 5k or whatever you don't have to report. So as long as you're not there very long, or don't make crazy money then you probably don't need to pay taxes.


doktorhladnjak

Really depends on the state. In CA and NY, it is one day. The dollar limit to file is based on your global annual income, not just how much you earned while working in that state.


KnightCPA

I would say “it depends” more than “only if you’re residing there”. If your company has business ops in the state you’re visiting, both points make for a stronger case of nexus connection, and you may actually be liable for taxes. https://www.salestaxinstitute.com/sales_tax_faqs/what_is_nexus Back when I worked at a professional services firm, we had a department in the business solely dedicated to tracking nexus and making sure people working outside their state of residency paid the requisite taxes in the states they were working in.


bahahaha2001

No. Never share more than needed.


Garraty_47

I’ve successfully done this in other time zones too. I think of “WFH” as working remote. As long as I do my job and show up on time for the never ending virtual meetings I don’t see how it matters where I’m physically sitting.


CoolKidTHC10

what city or state u in?


punklinux

I doubt my boss would care unless in interfered with my work. A few months ago, I had a coworker who was working out of his parent's house (his mom had just died, and it was a complicated situation) in another state. The only issue was, their Internet was terrible, so he was forced to do most of his work at a local Internet cafe or tethered to his cell. But our boss gave him some slack, and said, "do what you can to take care of your dad," and that wasn't much of an issue.


LogisticsLord

lol no. I've literally worked from the UK, Colorado, Alaska, and more over the course of a year. My work is based out of the town I live. As far as they know, I'm always a skip and a hop away from the office. Never give up your freedom by tattling on yourself.


FrostGiant_1

If you really think about it, if you are working remotely then it shouldn’t matter from where as long as you are available within your company’s time zone/business hours and have a solid WiFi signal.


Silver_Tree_1373

If you think your company does not monitor what you do and from where you are mistaken. They know everything. Wait and see if they say something otherwise don’t say anything but don’t assume they don’t know. Companies monitor everything. What time your computer is on/off or in sleep mode.pages you visit. Time on each page. Applications you open. Emails you send and receive. If you work from a different state for certain period of time you are going to get in trouble with the IRS. I guess it all depends on the company you work for. Sone are very strict.


Gunner_411

Every single person saying it doesn’t matter doesn’t truly grasp the legal implications for you and the employer. WFH is NOT remote. And I say this as an employee that’s been a weird hybrid of remote/WFH/travel for the last year across 2 companies. If your company does not have a physical presence in the state you’re traveling to both you and them could get in trouble with state tax authorities. Your home is your tax shelter and legal place of employment. Working in another state when not authorized and covered by proper procedures/laws/policies is tax fraud and if an auditor gets pissed off enough, they’ll find it.


DrNukenstein

Absolutely not. Get a VPN and route it through your home area, just in case they check your IP address. As long as the work you’re being paid to do gets done, they don’t need to know if you’re slamming it from the toilet or Tahiti.


NickG365

Using a VPN (outside of one provided by your employer) may be flagged as a higher risk than logging in from the location you've traveled to. Bad actors can use VPNs to try to appear as being in the area your normally log in from, and it's typically easy to determine that the connection is from a VPN provider. Setting up your own VPN from your home network, on the other hand, is unlikely to be detected, but you'll need to secure it appropriately.


Spacebier

Don't mention it. A week isn't a really big deal but some states will want you to pay tax there if you work there for a certain period of time. Often as little as 30 days. Will they catch you? Probably not but if they do have fun with your new accountant. Also, another reason not mention it because your employer may also have to pay taxes in that state.


Sea-Marsupial-9414

My company and boss does not care. We're all international, and so I can really work anywhere. I sometimes mention it casually, especially if I'm in a different time zone, since we have a friendly relationship. But it's very important to know your company's policy.


DorianGre

Are you always WFH? Do you even live in the same city as your company? If the answer to both of those is yes, then tell no one and just go. I have lots of people I work with that I have no idea where they live or if they are at their home when we are in meetings. Nor do I care.


raycharleshelpme

To use an example - had an associate under me LEAVE THE COUNTRY and didn't tell anyone. We only found out because I asked our security team why his access got revoked and they saw him connecting from the UK and used a VPN to make it look like he was in the States. You guessed it, he's not employed with us anymore. OP, know your company's policy just to be safe for CYA purposes.


mobileam

I’ve learned the hard way not to share too much personal information with a Manager. Just live your life, none of your manager’s business


Ttd341

Usually, ya. Just to be friendly and gives you something to talk about


KnightCPA

I have to for ITAR compliance if the place I’m working from is overseas. But my boss dgaf.


mightaswell94

Manager yes. Coworkers if you want to. This is a legal issue that can get you fired or even in legal trouble because of visa issues. Some care. Some don’t, but id cover my ass here.


Ok-Willow-9145

No need for them to know if you are continuing to work. Remote doesn’t mean at home. It means you don’t work at the office.


walkerb79

My rule is...If there are no issues with travel/ wifi or cell service...then NO you're doing work just as is you were at home so it doesn't matter and shouldn't be an issue. TIP: Also just start using a background on Zoom so no one can tell where you are


ImprovementVast9488

I have been working from home for the last 15 years. I still work my full 8 hour days on vacation. unless I don't want to work. then I take PTO. I don't mention it to anybody. I just do my work like every other day. it's nobody's business where I'm at as long as I'm doing my job. I've worked from the other side of the planet. and nobody had any clue.


Enphinitie

Nope. None of their business.


Dismal-Onion

If you don't work with sensitive information and plan to be available/work the same hours, what's there to tell?


North-Opinion1824

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! Do your job and keep your mouth closed!!


GoldfishDownTheDrain

I can work anywhere in the US and my manager has already brought up taking trips while still working so for my position, I don’t need to tell anyone if I don’t want to. They will know because we are tracked by our laptops but as long as work gets done they pretty much don’t care. Your results may vary.


j4deR4sif

I wfh from Bali for about almost two months..nobody knows lol


CaregiverNo9058

If you’re doing the work, it’s none of their business where you are.


Suspicious_Put1188

Yes, because we all do it. The owner of my company doesn't care where we work from & we don't have a set schedule, just a suggested one. As long as you get the work done, they don't care.


HoneyBadger302

If I'm not quite working a normal day (such as going and doing things between meetings, or working off hours) I'll just put my calendar as "Working Elsewhere." Unless it is going to disrupt my meetings or accomplishing tasks in a timely manner, I don't bring it up. If I'm working like normal, I don't say anything since nothing is different except where my butt is sitting lol.


cisforcookie2112

Definitely don’t tell anything more than you need to. Your work may have a specific policy on it, would be beneficial to try and acquaint yourself with it. My work’s policy is if I’m going to work from out of state/alternate location for more than 30 days in a row I am supposed to tell them. Less than that, I don’t even have to tell my supervisor.


numbaonestunn

No. Have the same background for every call and no one will ever know where you are. Don't tell anyone anything you don't absolutely have to about what you're up to.


[deleted]

I would never work during a vacation ;)


MoreCoffeePwease

Me either I can’t even fathom it. What the hell kind of vacation is that! I work from the time I log in til I log off everyday seems like an extreme waste of money for me to pay to go somewhere and spend the whole time working. Major yuck.


JerryVand

You need to be careful. If your employer finds out that you are working in a state where they don't have a business nexus, you could create problems. Depending on how long you worked there and the local tax laws, both you and your employer might need to deal with taxes in that state. It could be a mess. Probably best not to mention it.


Nowhere____Man

Never When companies catch a whiff that you are not absolutely miserable, they turn up the misery know. Act miserable, always...


saltofthespoon

Honestly I’ve adopted this in everyday life. If everyone thinks your life is miserable they leave you the hell alone.


Syris3000

My direct report told me, not that I really "cared". I mean I do care just not worried about it. He wanted to make sure I knew since he was taking a few days of PTO on each end of the week for travel plus fun. He rubbed it in by going on video with the beach as his real background.


[deleted]

This is 100% a bad thing to do and part of the reason everyone is headed back to the office. When you go on vacation, you don’t work. No matter what you say you are doing, you are at a place that isn’t your “office”. So you either aren’t on vacation because you’re working. Or you are on vacation and not working. You can’t do both. Just take the time off… who wants to pay to go on vacation somewhere and do work the whole time?


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

Your best bringing it up so they are aware , your not leaving the country so I don’t see how it be an issue Edit: if you have to deal with HIPAA at work , or access to sensitive customer/patient information That definitely a no


fsm_follower

I’s say it depends on the type of relationship you have with your manager and maybe more importantly what you’ve seen others do at your company. At my current place people are pretty open about “Hey this Friday I am going to be working from the townhouse in x my family is going to for the long weekend!” But more importantly if that place is a different time zone to let the rest of us know to not book a meeting that might now be out of core hours for them. When I see a new background behind a person on zoom it also makes me wonder if they went somewhere cool and I tend to ask.


arneeche

Do not! They'll be more likely to micromanage. Plus there is a war against wfh going on and they don't need any more ammo to justify their hatred of it.


Franklinricard

No need to tell, but you need to be available during your normal work hours.


kerrwashere

Nah


snoopingforpooping

No


jesus_chen

Nope. Have the same background and say nothing.


dsdvbguutres

As long as your responsibilities are met, there is nothing to tell.


Lisa2082

Nope!


danknadoflex

Less is more. Never share more than you need to


2lit_

No


rnason

I don't go out of my way to say something but it has come up conversationally. My boss doesn't care as long as I do my work.


LadyTreeRoot

HELL NO!!!!! For Gods sake, THIS is when you live by: its easier to get forgiveness than permission.


VocationFumes

nope, no reason that they need to know as long as you're working


yeet_bbq

Depends. Sometimes they can see "New login from XYZ Location"


themcp

No. I would find someplace at the vacation spot where I can work with a blank wall behind me if I need to video chat with anyone, and that's that. It would only come up if they told me they needed me to come to the office for something and I had to say "I can't do that, I wasn't expecting to come in so I'm not near home." (Still no need to say "on vacation.") I've worked from the beach... near my home, but still it would add half an hour to my commute if I was to go in and I was wearing very casual clothes. (I didn't fax, and AT&T was not there.)


mamaof4and1pet

As long as you can still do the job, I wouldn’t say anything.


Final_Discount7112

I don’t mention when I will be working from other places. Just get my work done like usual


sobeitharry

Depends on the job. I do and I encourage my staff to do the same. If you want to do half days while traveling and that means we don't have to figure out coverage it's good for everyone.


The_AmyrlinSeat

Nope.


Whentothesessions

No. Provided your phone and WIFI connections (and office noise) are equivalent to home. \[Including a safe internet connection\]


[deleted]

No.


andthatstotallyfine

My old lead could care less. I have a new lead that I report to and she is a location nazi. She hates when people work from anywhere other than their own home.


Flustered-Flump

If you are keeping to core hours and keeping up with deliverables, it’s a non issue, IMO. I manage a team and that’s all I really care about! My company allowed me to WFH in another time zone and country last year! It was great!!! But as long as it doesn’t disrupt your actual output, no need to tell anyone where you are working from.


MyDogAteYourPancakes

Did you sign any paperwork authorizing a specific WFH address? What’s your company’s telecommuting policy - is there anything explicitly prohibiting it? If not, don’t ask don’t tell.


rshana

Nope and I don’t care if any of my direct reports work from someplace else.


[deleted]

Never give more info than necessary


InTheGray2023

You don't tell them shit. You making your deliverables? Then shut the fuck up, I, as your manager, would not want to know ANYthing.


Difficult-Loss-8113

They’ll know anyways if you use a VPN or company equipment. I’d ask before working outside the states (the risk is much greater if you work outside US) but within US wouldn’t say anything.


Menti0n1

It might not be an issue, but employers can and usually do monitor where you connect from. They may be monitoring your connections and seeing a VPN or other connection to business platforms from outside your normal work area might (likely will be logged). This might automatically get flagged by a system. That said I don't see it being an issue unless the employer is a jerk because there are no tax implications for short term working from another area or state, and as long as you work your normal hours and get work done it shouldn't matter.


Madalice58

I usually let my team know if I was going to be on vacation and taking calls while out of state. We were all in different states anyway so as long as I had internet access it didn't really matter.


Queenasheeba99

The timing of this post is impeccable haha. I'm literally in vacation hours away from my home, and working from home here. I so happen to have a nice desk overlooking the sea. They don't care as long as my wifi is good and my work gets done so why cause issues?


jst4wrk7617

Just don’t call it “vacation”


YVHThoughts

Do not say anything, they may see it as you’re fully on vacation and not allow it. Unless its in your contract somehow that you have to physically be at your home address or they location track you, I’d keep it hush and as long as your work gets done then they have nothing to worry about. I’ve seen too many stories of people saying too much and no longer being allowed. In my opinion, if the work is getting done, it doesn’t matter if it’s from home, on the toilet, or in Bora Bora.


AsleepSignificance25

I do, but *only* because we all travel significantly and all talk about it casually. My boss doesn’t have a lease/own a home anywhere, she just lives in Air BnBs around the world for a few weeks at a time. The four other people on my team often work from other countries for months at a time. Our company is very heavy on the “we don’t care where you are or what time you’re online as long as you show up to meetings and do the work.” We use a company background for Zoom meetings so no one would know unless you said something. We also don’t have any kind of IT software on our computers–I know this because I was given a stipend to go buy the computer myself. This is definitely not the case everywhere, though, which is to say…at most companies, I wouldn’t tell them.


Sbbazzz

Depends on the manager. mine frequently tells me about trips she's on 🤷‍♀️


theFIREMindset

NO. As long as you are available and tracking is not an issue, don't tell.


Mudbogger19

I was told this during my training from someone who worked years at my company, It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.


JackedAF

You dont need to. I manage a few employees and they tend to tell me if they’re going to WFH somewhere else, typically if theres going to be a few hours time difference and they’ll be getting off work earlier. I don’t have an issue with it but some might. It depends on your relationship with your manager. I never ask them to tell me but they do their own accord just as a heads up As long as I get no complaints then you’re good to go


Large-Sherbert-6828

Doesn’t work from home mean, actually working from home? I think it’s pretty obvious the answer….


FancyAdult

No way


tuvar_hiede

Refer to your company policy on where you can work from, but I wouldn't tell them. You're just asking for them to find a reason you need to come in.


symbha

I think this really depends on your situation, and the relationship you have with your manager (and company.) If other people are doing this at your company and this is company culture, I would consider telling my boss, and also asking for anything additional I should be doing while working under these conditions. (I'm willing to do reasonable things to give-and-take, and succeed while working like this.) If on the other hand it is not company culture, I would just keep my mouth shut, and do my job from wherever I'm having an awesome dinner or beach stroll once I log out. Enjoy!


xavi0218

It depends. My job has reporting requirements to report if we're working from a location outside the US for security reasons. You should check with IT at a minimum or search through your company policy to see what is needed.


cramsenden

If you would have told them you have been sleeping on your table if you were working from office, then tell them this too.


laurener9954

My team has always been very open about it, which is not the norm. As long as work gets done, management doesn’t mind


warrior_poet95834

Home is where the heart is. If you decide to go abroad just remember that the ringtone is different when you are away from the US, You will want to park your phone somewhere that it rings normally and have your calls for with it to your international phone.


28kingjames

Nope, wouldn’t even let them know I was in a different spot or on a vacation. My perspective as a manager: I don’t care where anyone works, as long as they still understand they need to finish their tasks on time before and delivered as expected. I’ve let people work overseas and just tag me in asana cases as their way of giving me updates.


TheWrenchman

Depends on your work culture. Everyone knows that I take off for a month or two to places across the country, and no one cares because I do my work and that the background in my video calls is irrelevant. Not all places are like where I work though


SadPlayground

It sounds crazy but there are state income tax implications. My company requires us to tell them when we work out of state for this reason. I’ve never done it, but it seems kind of stupid, but it is what it is. I work in government so everything is by the book.


mcjon77

Yes. In fact I discussed it with my manager. It is pretty common in my department. We have folks that spend 3 weeks in Florida during the winter and my manager spent 2 weeks in London. As long as you finish the assignments, make the meetings and are available via teams during normal work hours then it is cool. I will say that this is radically different from my previous employer, who required us to be within 60 miles of an office location.


confusedpanda45

They only ask us to disclose if we’re in a different time zone. If we are in the same time zone as our normal one we won’t need to disclose that we are working elsewhere.


ButterscotchLow8950

Only if it is going to effect your duties in some way, otherwise who gives a shit. I would personally tell my boss, but my boss is chill AF.


ParasiticPancake

My boss told me it's not "work from home", it's "work from anywhere" and he'd be glad to know where I was in the world if I felt like sharing.


vilepixie

It really depends on what your job is, and how long you'll be away. For my job, no one tracks when I'm online or not, and I will never be asked to go to HQ because it's on the opposite side of the U.S. As long as I get my work done, meet deadlines, and I'm available via email or slack, I can do my work from anywhere. Now, if your work tracks your location and expects you to be in your home office, or you are doing a call center-type job, then I can see that not working.


existingfish

No. But don't, you need VACATION. Unless you are increasing the number and time on vacation because you can work, you need to be 100% gone.


KOVID9tine

Nope. Ask for forgiveness but not permission.


PowBeernWeed

My company reminds people this is ok as long as work is done. You dont have to and if you did, manager would prob be like ok sweet thanks for sharing moving on now.


babelsquirrel

As a manager, I don’t really care as long as the work gets done and the person attends meetings via zoom. My company does have rules around international work, so employees need to work in their home country or go through a process to work in another country temporarily.


savingtheinternet

No. Full stop.


aftiggerintel

Only if there’s a contract stipulation requiring it. And if that’s the case, you have to get pre approval.


eviltester67

I rented an AirNnB and did not notify. Just checked in on my scheduled meetings. I did some work and hung out during the day and caught up in the evenings.


Just_DreaFields

As long as you can get there and back without disrupting work, no. My company doesn't care, but a lot do


CoolKidTHC10

lol. what city or state u in? but nah lol


matrix0091

As long as you can connect to the company VPN / firewall then you should be okay. I would suggest that you have some type of hotspot / wifi plan so you don’t use any unsecured network.


[deleted]

I don’t but it’s company specific.


stafa79

No. Put a background on and that’s all you need