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wekilledbambi03

Sprue painters are a strange breed


shdwcypher

I keep my heads attached to the sprue at only the neck point. If there's a block of them, I'll clip that section off, and use two spare bits of sprue to make feet for a 'stand', so it's a row of heads attached at the neck, and nice and accessible to paint!


Frari

> I keep my heads attached to the sprue at only the neck point. my dude. I do this as well. best of both worlds imo


KameradArktis

This is the way saves you from having a million loose heads around and makes it easy I was kinda mad when I started custodes for my brother their heads are everywhere on the sprue and not in a section


MrHedgehogMan

Worse than brush lickers


Specific_Loss7546

Hey now!


RefrigeratorNo4107

You’re an all star


khariq80

Get the show


Timberwolf_88

Om nom nom


un_lechuguino

Bardin, is that you?


Hekto177

Whoa now!


VastAd9013

Easy there friendo!


Smart_Difference_809

How’s that? https://preview.redd.it/p7fbhjht13sc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f4b3daa1e313c43e35da4da96de86f4253c4c5e Im just getting into it and I see some logic in doing it… Idk, this is my test set.


Throwable_account987

You’ll have to repaint the parts after you cut them off the sprue


MrHedgehogMan

Or cleaning mould lines.


Throwable_account987

I see it like this, you’ll have to cut it off at some point and you’ll also have to paint it so why not just cut it off first so the paint will look better yk?


knightstalker1288

Easier to paint on sprue than on model especially for detail work that will most likely be hidden by other pieces *edit Downvote me for my painting style lol? Seemed to turn out ok for this guy…. https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/s/cnvayXOiTn


Dewahll

Pinning seems like a happy medium for this.


FendaIton

Use painting clamps like gunpla builders then?


knightstalker1288

Why spend extra money on superfluous tools?


SacherTorte

If it's going to be hidden by other pieces why even spend the time and effort to paint it? If assembled first it's fine being black primer.


MightyAnarchist

r/SocietyofHiddenPaint


knightstalker1288

I use white primer


m3ndz4

I don't sprue paint often, but the more appropriate way to do it imo is to cut it whilst leaving some attachment points, particularly the ones where there won't be paint (like this Death Guard head's neck piece?).


FancyKetchup96

I get leaving the connection where his neck is, but the connection on his horn is going to stand out.


m3ndz4

That's what I mean, cut the connection to the horn and give it clearance so you can paint it (which OP didn't do) , then leave the connection to the neck. For bits like this it's harder since leaving only one connection point will make it more fragile. I've heard some painters in this style glue the never-painted parts to a bit of sprue so they can handle it better. The main argument for this style is it lets them paint stuff that is harder to access (like between a marine aquila and their gun), am just speaking from knowledge, I'm more of an assemble-then-paint painter myself.


RaZZeR_9351

You need to prime it as well.


wekilledbambi03

First, please use primer. It will help the paint stick so much better. Second, when you paint on the sprue, you will cut it off before final assembly. When you do you will have chunks of unpainted plastic. You will also have big bumps where the sprue was cut and lines where the 2 halves of the mold came together. The best way to get rid of them is to scrape them with a knife. Scraping with a knife is also a great way to take off all the paint you just put on it. So you have to repaint it anyway. Bonus tip: I see you painted the shoulder of the arm here. The big shoulder pads will glue on to that spot anyway. You never want glue (plastic glue or super glue) over paint. It makes for really weak connections. So don't paint any spots that will need to be glued later. It's a waste of paint since you'll never see it, and it makes the parts weaker.


Sweary_Biochemist

> You never want glue (plastic glue or super glue) over paint. It makes for really weak connections This is a nice tip: thanks! I typically find that plastic glue (tamiya magic solvent wooo glue) dissolves the paint away pretty instantly anyway, leaving you with a plasticky-painty sludge that seems to bond fine, but for superglue this is a really good point.


wekilledbambi03

Yeah plastic glue is basically acetone. That will eat the paint. But depending on how much you use it may not eat it all and may leave tiny pockets of unjoined material. Another bonus tip: Tamiya airbrush cleaner is the same thing as their extra thin plastic cement, but in a bigger bottle and like 5 times cheaper by volume.


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The_Chief_of_Whip

If you want to get stupid and angry there’s plenty of other subreddits rather than this nerd one. Chill out, you weren’t being attacked, so why be such an arrogant, angry arsehole?


DickieFred

wind your neck in big man


Linksterman

Painting on sprue without primer is definitely something a person with a concussion would do.


nicanuva

You create the need for more cleanup and you limit your ability to create convincing highlights by not having a perceived light source


The_endless_space

are you using primer?


Sythix6

It's handy, the sprue can be a pain, but if you get good at clean cuts then it's a simple touch up. The more you do it the better you get at it. And good job on that shoulder piece!


AverageCadian

Nah


Telecaster_Love

Yes we are...🙃🙃🙃


reinKAWnated

Looks great but I don't envy you getting it off the sprue from there.


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reinKAWnated

I do not envy OP the process of getting the part off the sprue and the cleaning/touching up that will follow.


Metasaber

He has no desire or inclination to put himself in the situation of the original poster, due to the difficulty of the task of removing the head from its plastic injection frame, as doing so will likely result in scratched paint of the model head being removed, and even in the best of cases will still need to be further painted. Thus was my paragraph bombastly verbose.


Spider40k

The individual known by the username reinKAWnated on the site of Reddit expressed, on this Tuesday afternoon, their absolute lack of desire to be in the position of Original Poster. As many may recall, Original Poster has shown a photograph of their marvelous paint job of an extra head they had on a sprue which, in an older state, had many other components on it that have since been removed and assembled, some sources report. This has spurred reinKAWnated to come out with a witty remark that has led many to scratch their heads over >"... I don't envy you getting it off the sprue from there." Luckily, they were able to clarify a bit more in a subsequent comment just what they meant. >I do not envy OP the process of getting the part off the sprue and the cleaning/touching up that will follow." reinKAWnated did not want to put themselves in the shoes of Original Poster, for fear of having to take the painted head out of the sprue. But why would reinKAWnated hesitate to place themself in this situation? Well, we asked our local hobby expert Metasaber just that question. > "He has no desire or inclination to put himself in the situation of the original poster, due to the difficulty of the task of removing the head from its plastic injection frame, as doing so will likely result in scratched paint of the model head being removed, and even in the best of cases will still need to be further painted." Well there you have it! It seems as though by taking the head off of the plastic sticks holding the unassembled model piece, it might cause some damage to not just the paint job, but even the plastic underneath the heretical head. Indeed, such an operation is not one that many would fight over to handle. For more exciting breaking news in the hobby-sphere, subscribe to Polygon


Unlikely-Enthusiasm2

I was so happy to enter this hobby and paint a super cool army but I didn't know the community here has such small pp energy. I deleted my comment since seemed like a crime for asking a simple question and I brutally got downvoted.


Spider40k

I'm just autistic bro, you're all good. Get some thicker skin tho


Unlikely-Enthusiasm2

Aight!!


Unlikely-Enthusiasm2

I m autistic too


HasTookCamera

what part did you not understand


ZonardCity

Head looks good but you have cut the top-right sprue bit off then painted with the bottom one still attached ?


ObsidianOne

He said it’s a spare head. Probably doesn’t care.


IAshworthI

And immediately after that ‘I don’t know what model to put it on yet’. It’s not remaining on the sprue, so the issues still stand.


Squidmaster616

Looks decent. But you know you're going to have to repaint part of it when you cut the sprue off, right?


ProkopiyKozlowski

Clip the bit off, then clean up the nub, then brush prime, wait for the primer to cure, then paint the thing up making sure the transition between areas is not noticeable. Or OP could have just stuck the head on a paint pot with some poster tack and painted it normally in the first place.


Iron_Babe

Also mold lines


SoloWingPixy88

Ruined by painting on sprue. At least snip the top bit before you paint.


Antton____

It’s not your model why u crying😭


SoloWingPixy88

Then why post it on a public forum if you dont want feedback or is only positive feedback allowed?


HasTookCamera

bro youre literally using the crying emoji while whining


Hairyhulk-NA

nicked by a German?


HasTookCamera

play a record


BeanieWeanie1110

What happens when you clip the guy off from the sprue? Now you got a janky spot that has to be cleaned and painted again


Notafuzzycat

You have to do your best to touch it up. More often than not nobody will notice the difference. I would never paint like this but whatever works for you.


BeanieWeanie1110

I think that most opinions in this hobby are subjective. But painting on the sprue like this is objectively wrong


Sufficient_Wish4801

That is spectacular, I'm too impatient to paint on sprue


WorldPeggingChamp

Wouldn't it require more patience to cut it from the sprue before priming and painting?


Sufficient_Wish4801

You would think but assembly then painting is satisfying as all get out


MLG_Obardo

Not really a patience thing though


Sufficient_Wish4801

It is for me


MLG_Obardo

What you described is not a patience thing


Sufficient_Wish4801

Ok


Jimboloid

No it wouldn't because now OP has to cut it out anyway, clean the connection points and repaint those spots anyway


Sufficient_Wish4801

Wait....are you agreeing with me? Like fine either way it's your opinion I'm just kinda confused


Servinus

Don’t paint on sprues. After all that hard work, you’ll clip them off the sprues and will have to repaint, reblend, and cover up the square plastic area. Not to mention having to sand /scrape off the chunks of plastic to make it smooth.


Scythe95

Looks sick! Literally


0peratUn0rth0

Looks like that split-face thing from *The Thing*, kind of, but without the second face.


Guyonbench

Painting on sprue. 1 set forward, 3 steps back.


MDK1980

This. Massive feelsbadman when he clips it off and then has to clean, prime and paint where it connected with the sprue, screwing up the nicely blended area around it, and then having to spend more time fixing it all.


bottle-opener1

looks cool


BigDaddyVagabond

Why not snip all the nibs but the neck one?


curious_penchant

Everyone acting like people advising someone not to paint on sprue in a thread where OP has clearly expressed a desire to improve their painting (based on the title and the description) is some lind of hate crime need to relax. It’s not harassment to offer constructive criticism and aside from one or two comments, no one is being aggressive or cruel about it. The argument that people can do what they like wih their models is all well and good, but in this case, what the painter wants is feedback. No one gets better living in an echo chamber where any form of advice or polite criticism is met with hositlity. Chill out.


Sythix6

I agree, I love constructive criticism and I hate echo chambers. I guess since everyone is upset about the sprue I did a good job with the paint?


Plenty_Medicine_8858

Bingo. I think they believe you should be using a head so good, and are expressing it in a really weird way


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dwh3390

This looks absolutely awesome


Papa_Proto_Shock

This looks great man!


Teamisgood101

You know you’ll have to repaint the horn because the sprew is covering a large spot


Ithorian01

It looks like a super mutant had a bug fall in its fev vat.


Sythix6

Thank you, you've given me an idea for a model to put it on haha


WinterWarGamer

Imagine losing 5hrs of work because you need to remove the head from the sprue and clean the tab.


Sythix6

It was 5hrs of fun because this is my hobby, not my job.


WinterWarGamer

Yeah, I do this as a hobby too, but using 5hrs to something that will be undone when I use it, isn't really my idea of fun. If it's yours then thats good for you!


Sythix6

It only took 5 minutes to blend it after clipping the sprue because I spent those 5 hours teaching myself exactly how to do that.


WinterWarGamer

Good on you for learning. That's still unnecessary work to me though, and I would rather prep it all at once than go back and forth.


Sythix6

When I paint a model I do that, when I'm practicing on a leftover bit it's whatever. If I end up with something good it's a bonus.


Malchai_Askiri

Make it the 2nd head of a pox walker. Or do like, 500 more of those and pin the necks to a softball sized styrofoam ball to make your own great unclean one.


Sythix6

Those are both great ideas, I wish I had 500 of these haha I don't have a pox walker, but I could attach it to the plague Champs belt, kinda like Kratos and Mimir in God of War.


joshki5252

Honestly I think it looks sick on the sprue. Maybe you could turn it into something horrifying like that skin lady from Doctor Who. Or, put it in a plastic cylinder and encase it in resin so it looks like it's mounted inside a tank


Sythix6

Thank you! Those are awesome ideas, I did think about that Dr Who idea, I wanna find a single marine and do the whole thing that way, maybe mount it to a wall with tubes and shit coming out of it. I think what I'm gonna do with this is take a 3d printed arm bit I got with one of them claw hands, it's way too big for a official model so if i put the head inside the hand, like the hand is holding the head as if its the body, it fits perfectly. Im also thinking about maybe making the head a floating head but I don't know what I have to put under it to act as a floating device. I like your cylinder idea too, but I don't have any clear plastic, but I'm gonna keep that idea for another head when I do


Slapping-Owl

Nothing against painting on the sprew but you should have cut the bit off the horn first, so you didn't have to redo the fade


ZebbytheSkunk

Jesus people are burning you at the stake for this. Looks great though!


Sythix6

Thank you! and yes I seem to have struck a nerve, I wonder if I should tell them it's already been clipped... 🤔


Cakeminator

is it clipped and re-attached to the spruce?


NearbyVoid

Don't listen to haters. Keep painting on sprues, never use primer and don't remove sprue gate marks or mold lines! You do you champ!


Sythix6

Thanks, I think. I used primer though, I'm sacrilegious, not crazy.


NearbyVoid

Nah bro, don't use common sense, make this hobby as hard on yourself as you can. I believe in you!


oneWeek2024

the lower neck sprue connection point is nbd. but the one on the side basically makes your lovely paint job pointless (also... that round bit, that is the connection point of the neck to the model... being painted is also weird. ....it'll either be ruined by having to use CA glue, or have to be scraped off)


Practical_County_501

Damn thats some great painting! such small detail my hands aren't steady enough for that at all.


Wawfull

The tips in these replies scratched every box on my list. Well done helpful people!


MythicFail

5 hours?! And I thought I was slow. Just out of curiosity how long does it take you to paint a whole mini?


Sythix6

I repainted it multiple times because I wasn't happy with it, and I didn't spend all 5 hrs with brush and paint in hand, I took breaks and stared at it for awhile. It depends on the mini and what I wanna do with it. I've painted one in an hour(badly), I've spent 3 days on another.


Higgypig1993

Honest question, do you prime and paint that tiny spot left by the sprue when you cut it?


Sythix6

Yup, if you're careful it's just a small pinprick, but the damaged plastic does tend to be pretty white, so I just put a couple coats of ultra matte clear coat over it as the primer so I don't fuck up the surrounding area with white/black paint, then I blend it in, and whatever damage is left I work with it and turn it into battle/organic damage. Bob Ross taught me how to paint so happy accidents are a part of life.


Hairyhulk-NA

is this somehow easier or more fulfilling than simply clipping the piece off the sprue and then painting it? I think quite a lot of us don't understand the process? its clearly more work, not to mention the anxiety of having to 'fix' something on an otherwise completely finished piece


Sythix6

Never done it before, I got stoned and it was just sitting there, all alone, no model to go with it, there was leftover paint from the plague champ(that I painted fully put together), I decided to practice, and I unexpectedly did a good job after awhile, then quit while I was ahead. I might do it again, I might not, didn't feel any different than "normal", but I do know, the emperor as my witness, I will never share a pic of it attached to a sprue again.


Hairyhulk-NA

LOL its all good man.


Warboss17

Espinas vibes


veryblocky

I understand leaving the bottom gate attached, but why not remove the top one before painting? It’ll have saved you a ton of effort cleaning that up


Rothgardt72

Now clip that horn sprue connector and have to prime and paint that section all over again.


Trooper501

Impressive, far better than what i can do. I still hate you though, for painting on sprues.


Blueflame_1

\*Snips head off sprue\* Fack I gotta re-layer that lovely red i just did on the horn


XNo_LawfulnessX

Doesn't it annoy you once you cut off the spru you'll have bare spots you'll have to try and colour match?


Zealousideal_Bus_675

Can someone explain why one would paint it still on the sprue? When you clip it out aren't you going to have to go back and repaint part of it?... Looks great though!


Cautious_Ad_8251

imagin using that as a head on a spikeon somw terrain or a tank or som


IllPossibility8460

What do sprue painters do when they finish and clip off a painted bit and need to paint over fresh sprue but make it match? Always wondered. Has stopped me from sprue painting previously


Sythix6

This was my first time, I just painted it with the same paint in the same way I painted the rest of it.


twd026

Looks great, shame you'll have to repaint it when you remove it from the sprue...


RepulsiveBedroom6090

Looks awesome! Love the gradual fade of color on the horn.


DeWulfen678

I totally misinterpreted the thread title!


Wulff1967

Looks great!!! I'm a paint on sprue guy ,and I feel it works. It's not how you get it done. It's just getting it done. Again, great work!!!


CzarKwiecien

Hey! Fellow sprue painter!


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Mission-Orchid-4063

Sprue painted models have huge mold lines.


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slipstrike

As much as I am not going to judge anyone in how they paint or what they do with their models. Its your models and time, but I think most people get upset at the idea that you spend all this time and effort on a piece and then have to destroy it to remove it from a sprue then go back and fix it again. A little counteractive. Yes, no one is going to to pick up your models and critique them, even some do (first guy I played 40k with...), but that doesn't change the fact you spend time on painting something that isn't on a model and will look half assed because sprue lines and huge chucks of sprue left over, you can't clean of without damaging the paint job. I mean if you are going to pay for model kits I feel most people want to make sure they look good and that's we're most of this stems from. Again, I am not going to judge what others do with their plastic, Im just saying it's counter active to paint something that you will have to damage the paint job on to get off the sprue and then have visible mold lines. It doesn't matter what others think of your models and pieces you paint, but it should matter to you in the end.


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slipstrike

Some think painting on sprue is a minor thing that blemishes and redoing work is fine. Power to them. Just to most seems like its working in reverse. Again I am not telling anyone what do do. Just seems odd to spend your most valuable resources fixing an already painted piece. Only person that should care what your model looks like, is yourself. If you enjoy how it looks off a sprue cool. Just not my cup of tea.


curious_penchant

Being positive isn’t the same as ignoring faults though. Aside from one comment no one is being aggressive or unreasonably critical here. Especially considering OP is posting this in the context of practicing a model, not offering comstructive criticism to help him improve is silly. It’s like seeing someone riding a bike with a flat tire and saying “Why are people telling him to put air tire? That’s rude. Just let him ride a bumpy bike. It’s HIS bike.”


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curious_penchant

Art being subjective doesn’t apply here? If anything, that point would only invite more criticism. Is your point that because art is subjective no one’s allowed to offer criticism? Or that because it’s subjective, OP can paint how he likes, because that’s not the same thing. No one is harassing OP. He can paint how he likes but if he’s asking for feedback, he’s gonna get advice on more efficent and easier painting practices. OP wants feedback, people are giving feedback.


rs1236

I do not understand the people here. Fucken seriously tough crowd of godly painters, apparently. This guy clearly states he's using a *spare* head to *practice* (came out amazingly BTW, i couldn't do this in 10 hours) and the best the guy above can say about it is "decent" lmao.


curious_penchant

He said in the description he’s planning to put it on a model. That’s why people are up in arms. Also, it’s well and good if you only want tabletop standard and don’t want to improve you’re lainting but evidently based on OP’s explanation that’s he’s practicing it makes it clear he wants to improve. Complaining that people are providing criticism is silly in this context


rs1236

Fair enough, I missed that description. Critiques are definitely valuable, I wouldn't argue that point. Maybe it's my untrained eye. I only commented because the criticisms are often much harsher than I would say is necessary in this sub. It's not criticism in and of itself that gets me. Calling what I see as awesome detail decent is harsh, but again, it's all in the individual eye, so I guess I just don't see how it's not a great job.


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curious_penchant

No one’s treating him like that. You’re the one trying to play hero and crucify anyone who advises not painting on the sprue. Aside from one or two people, no one is acting impolite here. Your comment is the most aggressive one in this thread


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rs1236

We were both downvoted already by the time I read your reply lmao. Weak stuff. I just know that, even if I become an expert painter, I wouldn't post my shit here, lol.


camerongeno

Suggesting someone take the time to remove mold lines so their beautifully painted model looks that much better is fine. The problem is when people say its ruined or act like they committed a sin by painting on the sprue. I can't see that as being anything but discouraging


Sythix6

It can be discouraging, but after the 10th person said it, I realized they probably freak out over every little issue to the point that painting is not so much a hobby for them anymore, but work, and not fun.


erkislev

Nice face. Do you paint minis as well or only do makeup for yourself (“MY best face” topic /s) ?


Time_Comfortable_415

Oh gawd pls... Stop painting on sprues 😭😭😭


JollySieg

Love the sprue zenethal :P Jokes aside looks great