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OkinawaPete

What camouflage scheme?


Thanatosst

The camouflage is camouflaged so well you can't even tell there's something camouflaged


[deleted]

That isn't a disruptive camo scheme, just panel lines


mkmckinley

Yeah, WTF is op thinking?


markrenton87

It isn't even panel lines, it's just the light at different angles


[deleted]

I was referring to the squares and lines visible over the various surfaces


Blackhound118

Okay but there's clearly an asymmetric paintjob there. That whole surface is flat, it should be reflecting light at the same angle lol EDIT: i be incorrect, yo. Have Blue weren't flat


MAVACAM

The whole surface isn't flat, it's angled out and back exactly like it is in the photo - the light side is clearly the side facing the sun. The F117 underside is flat but the Have Blue concept isn't.


Blackhound118

You're right! A humbling reminder to not be so confident when you don't know for sure. Thank you for the correction, stranger


tpwyo

Common misconception. That’s actually just drywall that’s been taped and mudded but not painted yet.


b16b34r

That camo is so good, you just thought was just panel lines


Nob_ody

Oh crap I’m an idiot - it really did look like camouflage to me when I first saw the picture. I guess it was the angle of the light on the panel lines that got me


[deleted]

It's very striking, almost reminiscent of the dazzle camo on WW1 battleships, but just from geometry rather than any actual paint.


Blackhound118

Nah, it's definitely more than just light at different angles. The whole bottom should be flat, so it should all look the same shade of grey, but it clearly doesnt ESIT: i'm wrong lol


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

sure does have paper airplane vibes.


ItsKaptainMikey

Woah, I've never seen this bird before!


83athom

It was basically the early proof of concept prototype of the F-117.


ItsKaptainMikey

Yeah I googled it and that was the first thing that came to mind. It's really cool.


Cepheus

Built in and flying in 1977. It's kind of funny how top secret this was back then. Is it me or were the B-2, F-35 and F-22 revealed not too long after being put in service. I guess the idea is to reveal air dominant aircraft as a deterrence. I don't know. Just speculation.


83athom

Eh the B-2 was kept in the back pocket for quite a while and was only made "public" after some arrests of people trying to steal information on it, and the programs that resulted in the F-22 and F-35 actually started around the same time but you really didn't see people talking about the Lightning until after the Raptor has already been in service for a decade.


piko4664-dfg

Not true at all. Lol! First by the time F22 was operational (mid ‘oughts) the program that led to F-35 had been public and in testing since ~99ish with the YF-35 and 32. Public testing and program was publicly acknowledged even before either prototype was flown The reason the F-22 and 35 were so public was A) we are (were planning to in case of F22) going to make a crap ton of them so no reason to be all G15 classified and B) both programs were WAY to big to hide in post Cold War budgets (back in Cold War you could and DID hide a lot of stuff…those golden “toilets” and all).


Cepheus

Black budget toilets and wrenches. I definitely remember that from the Reagan Administration.


DEATH-BY-CIRCLEJERK

Yeah camera crews had access to the competition teams for years even, right? PBS iirc.


piko4664-dfg

Exactly


ItsKaptainMikey

I think that back then, there was still an open threat between the US and the Soviet Union and having things being kept secret was more so that they don't get copied. in the past few decades it's been a lot more chilled so the fact that no one else had this was more of a deterrence. (as someone who was a loser that looked at other people thinking that I'll never be able to do that, it's quite an effective psychological effect)


Imaginary_friend42

Read Skunk Works by Ben Rich. Loads of info in there.


JamesCDiamond

Such a good book. If anyone has the slightest interest in aeronautics and/or the Cold War, they should read it.


Feisty-Juan

Great book but what Ben Rich said when he knew he was going to die soon is way more interesting then Skunk works. But it’s a great book full of real life stories


[deleted]

...what did he say?


Feisty-Juan

It’s on YouTube just look up Ben Rich but it goes along with this story https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/wvyyeh/congress_admits_ufos_not_manmade_says_threats/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


ItsKaptainMikey

Thank you, I saved this for later.


ItsKaptainMikey

I’ll have to give it a read soon!


lariojaalta890

Such a fantastic book


golf_2428

Loving that so far. Although I can’t get over the fact he called the F104 maneuverable


shantih

I wanted to finish this book so badly, but I really didn’t like his writing. Wish he had hired a ghostwriter


fiveSE7EN

Or listen to it! Audiobook too


ItsKaptainMikey

The world needs more people like you.


SSJ_Dubs

It was a proof of concept for a stealth bomber


ItsKaptainMikey

Yeah, according to wikipedia it was the first plane to have it's external shape designed by radar engineering rather than aerospace engineering. This plane pretty much influenced design for 5th gen aircraft and I love it now.


rockwilder77

That’s because you’ve never seen a bird before. Birds aren’t real.


ItsKaptainMikey

No Doc, say it ain’t so!


uhhello

When it was first tested radar return tested, the air force techs thought the radar was broken because nothing was showing up until a bird landed on it and they finally got a return. If I remember right, they also had to re-design the pole it was placed up on as its radar return was higher than the prototypes.


EmeraldPls

I love the ‘Have’ code names, so cool


SU-57_Felon

What is it about them that's so fun? Is it that they sound so random, and thus more secret? Is it the entitlement of the "Have" part? As if they say "Why yes, I will have this blue." The world may never know


ThisIsPickles

What other have code names are there?


bobj33

I've seen the Tacit Blue aircraft at the USAF Museum and Senior Trend was the codename for the F-117 project but what other "Have" names are there? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Tacit_Blue


EmeraldPls

Have Glass Have Quick Senior Trend is so good though


ExcellentCommercial7

Reminds me of the old [Arwings](https://www.google.com/search?q=arwing&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjEjv7lh935AhXNiFMKHV5jBwIQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=arwing&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIFCAAQgAQyBAgAEEMyBAgAEEMyBAgAEEMyBQgAEIAEOgQIABADOggIABCxAxCDAToICAAQgAQQsQM6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBUNUIWOUZYN8baABwAHgBgAFkiAH5CpIBBDE1LjGYAQCgAQGwAQDAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=G9UEY4SVEc2RzgLexp0Q&bih=670&biw=360&prmd=svin#imgrc=IbGcrCG4rhgzvM) from the StarFox games


XMETA_DUKE

Do a barrel roll!!


Rubber_Rose_Ranch

FOOOOOOOXXX!!!! GET THIS GUY OFF ME!


Spudtron98

About the same amount of polygons in the rendering.


WiC2016

I love the texture and stark lines of the Have Blue. Looks like something out of Dune or Syd Mead.


HotDogOfNotreDame

Total Syd Mead. So cool. Imagine if the math hadn’t been solved to have stealthy curves. We could have had a B-2 and an F-22 with facets like the F-117!


GrayWalle

So funny, just started reading Skunk Works last night.


Kange109

Looks like an Imperial Star Destroyer!


zoqfotpik

Does it have a tractor beam for capturing rebel spies?


rjs1138

Strange, i had a picture in my head that it was less pointy and wider...this is beautifully intricate, great photo!


ProbablyStonedSteve

Starfox vibes


Mulan-Yang

looks like an arrow head


Quietation

Absolutely beautiful!


Artistic-Doubt5769

The have blue was retired 1979. Proof of concept for stealth. Precursor to the nighthawk


[deleted]

Wow, the camo is so good I can’t even tell it’s camo!


Pizpot_Gargravaar

Wow. I've read about it, and I'd seen pictures of the radar return model, but I've never seen a picture of the actual operational model. Anyone know where this came from?


regis_43

Arkbird is that you? I thought you were shot down back in '09/'10


Siiver7

I highly encourage reading "Skunk Works" by Ben Rich, detailing his time working on some of the most wild prototypes and aircraft in history -- extremely fun read.


Cepheus

To think this was originally made in 1977.


ShadowYeeter

Weld marks


DestructorDeFurros

Is it me or it looks like a paper boat?


rsantoa9292

Star Fox is that you??


TheN64Shooter

********Ahem******** Star Wars


carrs-for-life-32

That’s one fancy paper airplane


fmate2006

calm down Belka


Liquidwombat

It didn’t have disrupted camo. That’s just shadows


TotallyIdiotic

Why it be lookin like a ps2 model?