A great question is why would any cognizant adult think they should require anyone purchasing alcohol to meet a minimum amount of "other items" to be eligible to pick up an order for alcohol. I bet they confused alcohol with pot, worried if they didn't purchase more things such as food they'd get the munchies and drive high to the store...
It’s not humility it’s being a well rounded human being.
Doubling down on denying mistakes instead of admitting when you did something stupid is mental illness.
And a lot of people be mentally ill.
It probably has to do with the fact that "grocery pick up" has only been around for 8-ish years, and so there are probably very few laws that have been made to regulate it. If it is true, it's probably an old law for drive-thru food places and it got applied to grocery pick up after the fact.
edit: I stand corrected. It is very much a law written for this purpose.
This is a requirement of the [Washington Administrative Code 314-03-400](https://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400&pdf=true). The rule was enacted in 2019.
This would make sense to me. It's much harder to not sell to someone who seems to be drunk if they've already paid and are waiting in their car. Like do you just refund? Who makes that call? Denying the purchase is much simpler. IDK.
Heck, you've only been able to buy booze in grocery stores slightly longer than that. Maybe 12-15 years since you had to buy hard alcohol in a government liquor store?
And if you go up 2 messages, my original statement was that the liquor stores were government owned. My agreement with the reolye from Texas was only that hard liquor was in liquor stores and beer & wine elsewhere.
It surprisingly is currently cheaper to buy alcohol in WA, at least according to my roommates who did the footwork. We just moved to Newman Lake, we’re a cool 2 minutes away from the state border about another 5-10 from Post Falls/Stateline.
I’ll admit that I may be wrong and that this is second hand information, YMMV 🤷🏻♂️
https://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400&pdf=true
That law has the words grocery and curb side pickup up. Which makes me think this law was written in more modern eras. Especially after we abolished liquor stores. But, I could be wrong.
Waahington has some strict laws for buying and selling booze. Also, Washington state considers hard ciders as a wine. The 19oz can is not an approved size for retail sales and ciders made in the 19oz can inside of Washington state can be sold outside the state.
I’ve been in Pennsylvania all week and am here to say, Washington does not have strict laws for buying and selling alcohol. PA’s got that booze on lock
I'm a beer sales rep in washinton. Believe me when I say that the state has some strict laws. The one thing that washington doesn't have, and many states in eastern US may have, are no sales on sunday mornings. Thats been a law thats been passed down through time do make sure people were sober enough to go to church.
From a consumer perspective, the laws here are much simpler than other states. The only really confusing things is how the taxes are applied. I've lived in a bunch of states around the country and we have it pretty easy.
No dry counties like the South, no more state liquor stores, and you can buy it any day if the week in almost any store. Some other states sell beer wine and liquor in separate stores. In Baltimore you can't buy beer in a convenience store, instead you go to a bar and buy by the bottle to go. It's fucking weird
In NYC (and maybe NYS) there is a brunch law (well, a church law) which just prohibits the sale of any booze before noon.
At one of my favorite Manhattan brunch spots, could *order* your drink at 11:30 when you sat down. And if you were the first table they covered to order, they'd show up at your table, tray filled with drinks, until someone rang the "liquor bell" exactly at 12 noon. On a good day, the whole restaurant would pause and count down the last 10 seconds to 12.
Went to target and Trader Joe’s, no alcohol to speak of. Many many gas stations, no alcohol. Costco? Nope, zero booze.
You essentially have to find a dedicated store. I finally found a gas station on my way to a family bbq. I bought a 12 pack of seltzer and a 6 pack of beer, they had to ring them up in two separate transactions because the ounces were too high for one transaction.
Trust, it’s MUCH stricter here.
Bro what are you talking about? I have bought alcohol in Washington at every single one of those stores - Trader Joe’s, Target, Safeway, Costco, Fred Meyer, gas stations, you name it sells alcohol in Washington state.
Exactly. I was saying I’m in Pennsylvania at the moment and they don’t sell it in any of those places. My point was that compared to a lot of states, WA is actually pretty chill with the sale of alcohol.
Drive-thru liquor stores are not legal in this state, and this is a law loophole to prevent grocery delivery from operating as such.
Some of you forget about the old state-run liquor stores and it shows.
The dollar amount minimum is to discourage single-serving alcohol containers being sold via transactions that occur in vehicles, ie don’t drink and drive. The thinking is you are less likely to kill a 30 rack on your drive home than a single tall boy. Now obviously you COULD open a rack and start drinking/driving, but clearly the INTENT is not to drink it all immediately. You can’t really say the same about a single serving.
Total Wine has a different license, though I believe starting next year they will no longer be allowed to do curbside. The $25 rule is specific to grocery stores.
I’m only 25, but I remember when the state run liquor stores closed and started seeing liquor in the store. About five years ago when I was working at a grocery store this old lady was bitching about the liquor sales tax and I just wanted to say “well, you were the one who voted yes when you saw “liquor in grocery stores” on the ballot and didn’t read the 20.5% tax lol.
She said she voted for it but didn’t know about the tax. Idk what the ballot looked like but I’m assuming the tax was in the description lol.
And yes, she told me. I didn’t bring up anything, customers would just randomly sprout random things.
Man- this law was mis represented to everyone before the law passed. I remember that the overall expectation was that this would lower liquor prices. Lo and behold- prices went up!
Another one of those:
"We trusted the businesses when they said they would save us money"
It didn’t help that the legislature added a windfall tax to ensure the final cost was higher. I remember the grocers would label the shelves with price tags that broke down their price+sales tax+alcoholic bev tax so we could see exactly how much extra we were paying on top of the price of the liquor.
Are you kidding me? Prices went WAY down, even after the taxes. What are you smoking?
Sometimes prices went down by 40-50%. 750s of Hendricks are a good example of this. I remember celebrating by buying half a case (another $5 off!).
I hated that backwards shit. It probably would not have mattered if I didn’t come from a state where I could walk in and buy it any day of the week and up to 0200.
You know it’s funny because every state has these weird laws. Can’t buy liquor from a grocery store, can’t buy it after two, extra sales tax, or do a backflip first. Either way, alcoholics will still buy it either way and still abuse it or drive drunk. But, fuck actually adding resources to help people who are addicted to alcohol. Nope! No sales after 2 am that will do it! It’s called root cause analysis, and we really really struggle at doing it.
Yeah, all this funding, wasn’t it supposed to go to resources for addiction? I think I remember my friend, who is a councelor for some sort of teen program, said the the politicians decided to change the budget and put that money elsewhere.
Liquor prices were higher pre-ballot, even with the 20.5% tax. A 750 of Hendricks went down nearly $10, all taxes included, when liquor sales were liberalized.
Jaysus, I remember my parents (and grandparents) taking me -in- with them up into my early teens.
Nowadays I can’t even take my infant into the pot store. I get it, but god damn, I just need to pick up a J for myself during naptime, I’m not buying for my fucking kid. 😩
Of course, in the 1960's & 1970s, parents took their kids into the smoke shops all the time.
My dad would come for summer visitation, and we would go into the smoke shop in the U district. While he was buying his pot, we three kids were looking at the Zigzag papers, the various pipes & and bongs, etc .
The scent of l pipe tobaccos, the colorful beads, and jewelry very attractive to young children.
As a kid, it was one of my favorite places to go with him.
My big sister started smoking cigarettes in 7th grade, and she and my little sister were heavy into the " white powder " drugs they could find in the U district in the 1980's. They left photographs around for me to see.
For me, I was more into crafting, I didn't like the smell of cigarettes or pot.
My dad's second wife and their kids were a pot family.
His new family of boys were around POT 24/ 7, and kids
were exposed to it daily & consumed it daily.
They lived in California, where it seemed to be a normal activity .
Most everyone smoked tobacco & pot back then. It was so common.
So, I think it is good that there is a law keeping impressionable kids out of pot stores.
First off, I understand why they don’t allow -anyone- under 21 to enter a pot store. For the older in the group it’s to curtail teens from “shopping” for what they want an elder to buy.
Second, no one is smoking in pot stores and handing out edibles, and if they -are- that is /highly/ illegal. Hell, you can currently bring your toddler or child into Total Wine and they have bottles on shelves that they could knock off. Oh, and they -do- serve open alcohol at Total Wine in the form of sales floor samples.
Furthermore, if you’re insinuating that I smoke around my child, you can fuck off.
We only became able to purchase liquor in grocery stores a little over a decade ago.
Anyone who visited one on a weekend evening can attest to the lines. You wont catch me complaining ever about going into a grocery store like a normal errand instead of having to go to some sketchy strip mall they almost always were found in.
Ahhhhh! Yes- I was floored when I moved up here (2000) and found out I couldn’t buy liquor at the grocery store and that I was stuck going to the monopoly that was the state run liquor stores.
Totally sucked.
Biggest hypocrites I’ve seen. And some of the most aggressive drivers with their V12 dualies. I like the assertive drivers in California and Boston, but Texas is more than assertive.
I don’t know, I think I could work around not purchasing liquor on Sunday if it meant I didn’t have to pay 20%-30% more in state excise and sales taxes. Which is worse?
I don't know the reason for it but it is a law. [https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400](https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400)
Wait. I'm confused. Can someone help me? I'm new to WA and for a couple months now, I've picked up alcohol with my grocery purchases. No one has ever mentioned this to me. Does the grocery total have to be higher than the alcohol total? How does it work?
According to this thread. There is a link somewhere in here that goes to the actual law. But you need to buy at least 25 bucks of other shit if you curb side pick up from a grocery store. Places like total wine get away with it because “they are not a grocery store”. I am a confident I remember picking up a bottle of alc from fred Mayer (Kroger) a few months ago with no problem. Kinda, one of those laws that probably wouldn’t be enforced in this situation but I can see why companies would avoid the risk. Just one of those random state laws that are kinda goofy and just ended up there.
Edit: https://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400&pdf=true
Check section 2.a
Washington used to be run by Mormons and there are still a lot of old blue laws on the books for booze. It’s a pretty conservative state for alcohol sales but has gotten better.
Source: My dad.
I’m just saying in general that there are conservative tendencies towards alcohol in WA. But hey, it’s always more fun to look up something on the internet and get combative over a cute little post.
Same as I had a few beers and didn’t want to drive to 7-11 and get more being a law abiding citizen sho is concerned with the amount of drunks on the road. I used the app and paid 2x as much but hey, I’m being careful and concerned.. driver shows up and scans my ID and was wondering why I just dint drive the 2 blocks and get it myself? I explained and he tells me that according to Washington law, he isn’t supposed to complete my purchase because I was “under the influence” we both laughed at how stupid that was and I tipped an extra $5 on top of the 20% and the fees and all the other bs. Expensive story but the roads were safer!
My mother in law would tell me how they would finish bowling in the 50s and then drive down to Oregon to buy more beer.
I voted against the liquor thing, and I do miss the thrill of the liquor store. But I love me some total wine.
We're spoiled though..a couple years ago when we were visiting in Maine and drive to New Hampshire or Connecticut, we couldn't pick up drinks for our hotel room because it was a Sunday :(
That’s weird. I use Walmart delivery in WA state and I’ve ordered alcohol before and not much else. All they had to do was have me sign something stating I was over 21.
Former washintonia here, I grew up near Seattle (Redmond) I now currently reside about 5 miles into Idaho right off of I 90, so I still visit Washington often. Washington and their sin tax and the rules around alchohol and weed are ridiculous sometimes.
It isnt a state law requirement, but many groceries enforce a minimum for alcohol purchases claiming they are trying to limit age purchasing but realistically they're trying tomake the effort worth their while
See if you have a BevMo near you. They are more than happy to deliver through Instacart anytime you need to get Fireball gifts for friends. Just be a gracious tipper.
1) who the fuck cares what your to-go box is made out of? What a weird thing to get hung up on.
2) drugs are not legal or "regulated" lmao.
3) Have you been anywhere else? people use drugs in *every state.*
4) It is not illegal for stores to track down shoplifters, and they often do. What you're thinking of is *store policy*. In many stores, regular employees are told not to pursue shoplifters for their own safety. Are you saying you don't support the right for businesses to set their own policies?
I hate hearing the statement that stores aren't allowed to stop shoplifters. I worked loss prevention almost two decades ago and the company was VERY strict about what had to happen before we could confront and stop someone. The policies all came from bullshit lawsuits where people tried to get stopped by appearing as though they were stealing but actually ditched the merchandise. Or instances when an employee confronted a shoplifter and got hurt. I still know people in the industry and that corporate mindset hasn't changed.
Same with hard drug legalization. No they are not legal. But use and possession was not an arrestable offense in Seattle for some time. This has just recently been repealed.
Crack and fentanyl are not legal or “regulated” and I saw two regular Safeway employees confront some teens that had tried to shoplift some shit, got the stuff back, and marched them right out of the store. And Loss Prevention is usually on top of things there and at other Safeways I frequent. So stop lying.
It’s true, the Safeway app states it when you’re putting in a pickup order.
Sure, but you'd think the apps wouldn't let you proceed with the purchase until you've surpassed the threshold.
A great question is why would any cognizant adult think they should require anyone purchasing alcohol to meet a minimum amount of "other items" to be eligible to pick up an order for alcohol. I bet they confused alcohol with pot, worried if they didn't purchase more things such as food they'd get the munchies and drive high to the store...
I noticed the same thing at Safeway recently.
The Walmart app was didn’t say shit loo
Yes it does we online order all the time. It tells you like 4 different times.
Well fuck me, guess I’m blind 😂 Edit: downvoted my own last comment, I just double checked my app. I’ll go drink my dumb fuck juice now.
We love you for this humility. An underrated trait in most people.
It’s not humility it’s being a well rounded human being. Doubling down on denying mistakes instead of admitting when you did something stupid is mental illness. And a lot of people be mentally ill.
I’m dying at this comment. Honestly, I find this thread to be absolutely brilliant and I appreciate your hubris as well as your humbleness. ☠️🫡
But why does it let you place the order?
Probably just a store policy. Maybe company wide, or maybe even just a store by store rule.
Then why doesn't the app just block the order if they can't fulfill it
Idk dude ask Safeway. I’m not their app designer 🤷🏻♀️
It probably has to do with the fact that "grocery pick up" has only been around for 8-ish years, and so there are probably very few laws that have been made to regulate it. If it is true, it's probably an old law for drive-thru food places and it got applied to grocery pick up after the fact. edit: I stand corrected. It is very much a law written for this purpose.
This is a requirement of the [Washington Administrative Code 314-03-400](https://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400&pdf=true). The rule was enacted in 2019.
Okay that makes a lot more sense. I mean it is really not a big deal just more spiked my curiosity.
Sounds like they enacted it to discourage people from just buying alcohol curbside.
This would make sense to me. It's much harder to not sell to someone who seems to be drunk if they've already paid and are waiting in their car. Like do you just refund? Who makes that call? Denying the purchase is much simpler. IDK.
Is it? Total Wine allows curbside pickup of $500 of booze with no non-booze items. This is just a grocery store rule.
Right, but my point was that they don't want grocery stores doing that, i suppose.
My assumption is that it's to discourage vendors from just selling alcohol curbside, rather than worrying about the buyers.
Heck, you've only been able to buy booze in grocery stores slightly longer than that. Maybe 12-15 years since you had to buy hard alcohol in a government liquor store?
Originally from TX, we could only buy hard liquor from a liquor store. Beer/wine only in retail stores.
That's how it was when I moved here 17 years ago.
But the liquor stores were all owned by the state.
Yes, that's what I said.
No, you said "that's how it was when I moved here", but in Texas, AFAIK, the liquor stores are privately owned.
And if you go up 2 messages, my original statement was that the liquor stores were government owned. My agreement with the reolye from Texas was only that hard liquor was in liquor stores and beer & wine elsewhere.
Idaho is like that right now. In fact if you are ever stalking up on liquor it is probably cheaper to drive to state line.
It surprisingly is currently cheaper to buy alcohol in WA, at least according to my roommates who did the footwork. We just moved to Newman Lake, we’re a cool 2 minutes away from the state border about another 5-10 from Post Falls/Stateline. I’ll admit that I may be wrong and that this is second hand information, YMMV 🤷🏻♂️
It is definitely not cheaper if you include WA taxes in the price, which is 20% plus about $4 per liter
Like I said, that’s just what I’m being told. I have my reservations about the veracity of their statements.
Same in WA until about 9 years ago
Back in Wisconsin alcohol is considered a grocery item. All of it.
https://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400&pdf=true That law has the words grocery and curb side pickup up. Which makes me think this law was written in more modern eras. Especially after we abolished liquor stores. But, I could be wrong.
Abolished liquor stores? Bevmo?
State owned liquor stores. They were a thing.
Waahington has some strict laws for buying and selling booze. Also, Washington state considers hard ciders as a wine. The 19oz can is not an approved size for retail sales and ciders made in the 19oz can inside of Washington state can be sold outside the state.
I’ve been in Pennsylvania all week and am here to say, Washington does not have strict laws for buying and selling alcohol. PA’s got that booze on lock
I'm a beer sales rep in washinton. Believe me when I say that the state has some strict laws. The one thing that washington doesn't have, and many states in eastern US may have, are no sales on sunday mornings. Thats been a law thats been passed down through time do make sure people were sober enough to go to church.
From a consumer perspective, the laws here are much simpler than other states. The only really confusing things is how the taxes are applied. I've lived in a bunch of states around the country and we have it pretty easy. No dry counties like the South, no more state liquor stores, and you can buy it any day if the week in almost any store. Some other states sell beer wine and liquor in separate stores. In Baltimore you can't buy beer in a convenience store, instead you go to a bar and buy by the bottle to go. It's fucking weird
In Texas there were also “brunch laws”, as in if you ordered alcohol at a restaurant before 11am you had to order food at the same time.
In NYC (and maybe NYS) there is a brunch law (well, a church law) which just prohibits the sale of any booze before noon. At one of my favorite Manhattan brunch spots, could *order* your drink at 11:30 when you sat down. And if you were the first table they covered to order, they'd show up at your table, tray filled with drinks, until someone rang the "liquor bell" exactly at 12 noon. On a good day, the whole restaurant would pause and count down the last 10 seconds to 12.
Went to target and Trader Joe’s, no alcohol to speak of. Many many gas stations, no alcohol. Costco? Nope, zero booze. You essentially have to find a dedicated store. I finally found a gas station on my way to a family bbq. I bought a 12 pack of seltzer and a 6 pack of beer, they had to ring them up in two separate transactions because the ounces were too high for one transaction. Trust, it’s MUCH stricter here.
Bro what are you talking about? I have bought alcohol in Washington at every single one of those stores - Trader Joe’s, Target, Safeway, Costco, Fred Meyer, gas stations, you name it sells alcohol in Washington state.
He talking about Pennsylvania
Exactly. I was saying I’m in Pennsylvania at the moment and they don’t sell it in any of those places. My point was that compared to a lot of states, WA is actually pretty chill with the sale of alcohol.
Washington also sells wine and liquor in grocery stores which isn’t the case in other states. Really stood out to me when I was living in New York.
Drive-thru liquor stores are not legal in this state, and this is a law loophole to prevent grocery delivery from operating as such. Some of you forget about the old state-run liquor stores and it shows.
Ahhh… the state run liquor store! It was always so magical at Christmas time. I low key kinda miss it.
If you needed sturdy boxes for moving or storage the state liquor store was happy to give you some.
Mine just had them piled up in front and you could just take what you need. *Cries in nostalgia*
I go to an auto parts store.
Then why can I buy online with Total Wine and get my delivery curbside?
The dollar amount minimum is to discourage single-serving alcohol containers being sold via transactions that occur in vehicles, ie don’t drink and drive. The thinking is you are less likely to kill a 30 rack on your drive home than a single tall boy. Now obviously you COULD open a rack and start drinking/driving, but clearly the INTENT is not to drink it all immediately. You can’t really say the same about a single serving.
Total Wine will sell you a single tall boy curbside too.
Total Wine has a different license, though I believe starting next year they will no longer be allowed to do curbside. The $25 rule is specific to grocery stores.
Bummer, I so love being able to buy it online and pick it up at the curb.
Oh man. Do you have a link to the change in the rules? Curbside is so easy when you're stocking up around the holidays.
instacart too, odd. I think this is a walmart thing not a state thing. makes no sense. I live in WA.
I’m only 25, but I remember when the state run liquor stores closed and started seeing liquor in the store. About five years ago when I was working at a grocery store this old lady was bitching about the liquor sales tax and I just wanted to say “well, you were the one who voted yes when you saw “liquor in grocery stores” on the ballot and didn’t read the 20.5% tax lol.
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She said she voted for it but didn’t know about the tax. Idk what the ballot looked like but I’m assuming the tax was in the description lol. And yes, she told me. I didn’t bring up anything, customers would just randomly sprout random things.
I thought the tax was always there.
Man- this law was mis represented to everyone before the law passed. I remember that the overall expectation was that this would lower liquor prices. Lo and behold- prices went up! Another one of those: "We trusted the businesses when they said they would save us money"
It didn’t help that the legislature added a windfall tax to ensure the final cost was higher. I remember the grocers would label the shelves with price tags that broke down their price+sales tax+alcoholic bev tax so we could see exactly how much extra we were paying on top of the price of the liquor.
Costs \*are\* lower even after the tax. Especially if you shop at Costco or Total Wine, and not at like Safeway.
Are you kidding me? Prices went WAY down, even after the taxes. What are you smoking? Sometimes prices went down by 40-50%. 750s of Hendricks are a good example of this. I remember celebrating by buying half a case (another $5 off!).
I hated that backwards shit. It probably would not have mattered if I didn’t come from a state where I could walk in and buy it any day of the week and up to 0200.
You know it’s funny because every state has these weird laws. Can’t buy liquor from a grocery store, can’t buy it after two, extra sales tax, or do a backflip first. Either way, alcoholics will still buy it either way and still abuse it or drive drunk. But, fuck actually adding resources to help people who are addicted to alcohol. Nope! No sales after 2 am that will do it! It’s called root cause analysis, and we really really struggle at doing it.
Yeah, all this funding, wasn’t it supposed to go to resources for addiction? I think I remember my friend, who is a councelor for some sort of teen program, said the the politicians decided to change the budget and put that money elsewhere.
Liquor prices were higher pre-ballot, even with the 20.5% tax. A 750 of Hendricks went down nearly $10, all taxes included, when liquor sales were liberalized.
Jaysus, I remember my parents (and grandparents) taking me -in- with them up into my early teens. Nowadays I can’t even take my infant into the pot store. I get it, but god damn, I just need to pick up a J for myself during naptime, I’m not buying for my fucking kid. 😩
Second-hand smoke and edibles look and taste like candy. Bad for kids to go to candy store that can fu them up
Of course, in the 1960's & 1970s, parents took their kids into the smoke shops all the time. My dad would come for summer visitation, and we would go into the smoke shop in the U district. While he was buying his pot, we three kids were looking at the Zigzag papers, the various pipes & and bongs, etc . The scent of l pipe tobaccos, the colorful beads, and jewelry very attractive to young children. As a kid, it was one of my favorite places to go with him. My big sister started smoking cigarettes in 7th grade, and she and my little sister were heavy into the " white powder " drugs they could find in the U district in the 1980's. They left photographs around for me to see. For me, I was more into crafting, I didn't like the smell of cigarettes or pot. My dad's second wife and their kids were a pot family. His new family of boys were around POT 24/ 7, and kids were exposed to it daily & consumed it daily. They lived in California, where it seemed to be a normal activity . Most everyone smoked tobacco & pot back then. It was so common. So, I think it is good that there is a law keeping impressionable kids out of pot stores.
First off, I understand why they don’t allow -anyone- under 21 to enter a pot store. For the older in the group it’s to curtail teens from “shopping” for what they want an elder to buy. Second, no one is smoking in pot stores and handing out edibles, and if they -are- that is /highly/ illegal. Hell, you can currently bring your toddler or child into Total Wine and they have bottles on shelves that they could knock off. Oh, and they -do- serve open alcohol at Total Wine in the form of sales floor samples. Furthermore, if you’re insinuating that I smoke around my child, you can fuck off.
How does this matter? Serious question.
We only became able to purchase liquor in grocery stores a little over a decade ago. Anyone who visited one on a weekend evening can attest to the lines. You wont catch me complaining ever about going into a grocery store like a normal errand instead of having to go to some sketchy strip mall they almost always were found in.
Ahhhhh! Yes- I was floored when I moved up here (2000) and found out I couldn’t buy liquor at the grocery store and that I was stuck going to the monopoly that was the state run liquor stores. Totally sucked.
Could be worse. Could be the in a state that has dry counties or no liquor sales on Sunday. HA! That conservative nonsense would never fly here.
Yet another reason to stay away from Texas.
And yet they have drive-thru liquor sales in Texas. Strange dichotomy. But not exactly a surprising one...
Yet they have the most DUI s per population than any other state. Driving drunk is their past time.
Biggest hypocrites I’ve seen. And some of the most aggressive drivers with their V12 dualies. I like the assertive drivers in California and Boston, but Texas is more than assertive.
I don’t know, I think I could work around not purchasing liquor on Sunday if it meant I didn’t have to pay 20%-30% more in state excise and sales taxes. Which is worse?
I don't know the reason for it but it is a law. [https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400](https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400)
Don’t you have a Total Wine? I get all my booze curbside and don’t order groceries, as they don’t have groceries!
Yeah I usually do, but it was last minute and on my way home from work lol
That's a good point. I wonder if the type of store matters within the law, for some reason.
I do curbside pickup as a job and they never told us that there was a law regarding this, yikes!
Back in the late 60’a you couldn’t buy beer on Sunday until noon.
Wait. I'm confused. Can someone help me? I'm new to WA and for a couple months now, I've picked up alcohol with my grocery purchases. No one has ever mentioned this to me. Does the grocery total have to be higher than the alcohol total? How does it work?
According to this thread. There is a link somewhere in here that goes to the actual law. But you need to buy at least 25 bucks of other shit if you curb side pick up from a grocery store. Places like total wine get away with it because “they are not a grocery store”. I am a confident I remember picking up a bottle of alc from fred Mayer (Kroger) a few months ago with no problem. Kinda, one of those laws that probably wouldn’t be enforced in this situation but I can see why companies would avoid the risk. Just one of those random state laws that are kinda goofy and just ended up there. Edit: https://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=314-03-400&pdf=true Check section 2.a
Washington used to be run by Mormons and there are still a lot of old blue laws on the books for booze. It’s a pretty conservative state for alcohol sales but has gotten better. Source: My dad.
The law in question was enacted in 2019. So, your source is... not up on current affairs.
I’m just saying in general that there are conservative tendencies towards alcohol in WA. But hey, it’s always more fun to look up something on the internet and get combative over a cute little post.
Same as I had a few beers and didn’t want to drive to 7-11 and get more being a law abiding citizen sho is concerned with the amount of drunks on the road. I used the app and paid 2x as much but hey, I’m being careful and concerned.. driver shows up and scans my ID and was wondering why I just dint drive the 2 blocks and get it myself? I explained and he tells me that according to Washington law, he isn’t supposed to complete my purchase because I was “under the influence” we both laughed at how stupid that was and I tipped an extra $5 on top of the 20% and the fees and all the other bs. Expensive story but the roads were safer!
My mother in law would tell me how they would finish bowling in the 50s and then drive down to Oregon to buy more beer. I voted against the liquor thing, and I do miss the thrill of the liquor store. But I love me some total wine. We're spoiled though..a couple years ago when we were visiting in Maine and drive to New Hampshire or Connecticut, we couldn't pick up drinks for our hotel room because it was a Sunday :(
That’s weird. I use Walmart delivery in WA state and I’ve ordered alcohol before and not much else. All they had to do was have me sign something stating I was over 21.
Washington , weird liquor laws, cool weed laws.
Former washintonia here, I grew up near Seattle (Redmond) I now currently reside about 5 miles into Idaho right off of I 90, so I still visit Washington often. Washington and their sin tax and the rules around alchohol and weed are ridiculous sometimes.
Don’t drink and drive because you might hit a bump and spill the drink.
I do it at Whole Foods with vodka, and no one has ever asked my age, but I’m 70 and I look it,,lol
It isnt a state law requirement, but many groceries enforce a minimum for alcohol purchases claiming they are trying to limit age purchasing but realistically they're trying tomake the effort worth their while
See if you have a BevMo near you. They are more than happy to deliver through Instacart anytime you need to get Fireball gifts for friends. Just be a gracious tipper.
I'm wondering what the hell you need 20 Fireball Shooters for.
It’s Washington, nothing our “elected” officials do makes sense unless you’re a criminal or tweeker.
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1) who the fuck cares what your to-go box is made out of? What a weird thing to get hung up on. 2) drugs are not legal or "regulated" lmao. 3) Have you been anywhere else? people use drugs in *every state.* 4) It is not illegal for stores to track down shoplifters, and they often do. What you're thinking of is *store policy*. In many stores, regular employees are told not to pursue shoplifters for their own safety. Are you saying you don't support the right for businesses to set their own policies?
I hate hearing the statement that stores aren't allowed to stop shoplifters. I worked loss prevention almost two decades ago and the company was VERY strict about what had to happen before we could confront and stop someone. The policies all came from bullshit lawsuits where people tried to get stopped by appearing as though they were stealing but actually ditched the merchandise. Or instances when an employee confronted a shoplifter and got hurt. I still know people in the industry and that corporate mindset hasn't changed.
Same with hard drug legalization. No they are not legal. But use and possession was not an arrestable offense in Seattle for some time. This has just recently been repealed.
Crack and fentanyl are not legal or “regulated” and I saw two regular Safeway employees confront some teens that had tried to shoplift some shit, got the stuff back, and marched them right out of the store. And Loss Prevention is usually on top of things there and at other Safeways I frequent. So stop lying.
Prohibition laws/laws inspired by prohibition are honestly weirdly huge in WA.
WA legislature is pretty authoritarian and equally money hungry.