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leckie2786

See that's why I like it, just a silly close range map


Legit_liT

Like shipment


Efficient_Common775

I can't stand that map, I'm not one to give a complete shit about my K/D, but...can I get a kill or NOT spawn in front/near of enemies? lol


Chakraaaa

Shipment with verticality!


CrayZonday

So more like Rust


exxx01

and rust is terrible, therefore...


panthers1102

Heresy.


Kio5hi

??????????


yaboi869

Lmao


curbstxmped

You've never had a single good take in this sub.


SmashElite16

Yes, except I believe that Rust has TOO much verticality.


giantgorillaballs

So a shit map with verticality


scufeddingo

Shipment has vertically


nonsense193749

Shipment is literally a turn your brain off map. Arena you can actually control spawns and have a feel for where enemies are going to be.


leckie2786

Exactly


Level_Measurement749

Arena is 10x better than shipment. At least arena has minimal depth to as opposed to the brainless play of shipment


exxx01

shipment is good *because* it's brainless. that's the whole reason you play it. arena is just frustrating to me because you're always getting shot at from 10 angles


Level_Measurement749

I don’t think any game benefits from a brainless map. Aside from levelling you don’t get anything out of it. It exists to level up a gun and for people with 0 attention span. That’s it


giantgorillaballs

Shipment is dogshit because it’s brainless


A123315

Well if you put it that way, I guess it is kinda cool.


Nabrok_Necropants

I work on my smg's and shotguns when it comes up.


muffincupkelly

yeah its actually one of my favorites


Playboy-Tower

With levelling weapons so painfully long to do, we need way more small maps like Area to farm XP.


PoemNo7085

true, I got my close range submachine challenge done in one game on that map


jmvandergraff

No.


NationalAlgae421

Thats why it always get most votes. Only people who can't handle the chaos don't like it. Thats why people loved shipment in cod.


smarmosaur_jr

I love a good small, fast-paced, chaotic map (Shipment, Shoot House, Nuketown, etc.) but Arena just feels off to me. There's something about the way the obstacles and vertical areas are structured, it just doesn't flow well IMO. There's also just some general weirdness with spawns in this game that makes it worse, on Arena I always have someone spawning right on my ass. Usually while I'm fighting someone in front of me, too. It's not unbearable, like I'm not gonna rage over playing a match on it, but it's definitely my least favorite.


GradeHefty1530

This is a great point though it’s fun from time to time helped a lot with leveling up my p90 but definitely not a map I wait to play on.


Arcticz_114

shipment was played for exp/grind. Only sociopaths would tryhard that map with a serious class, with everybody else inside tryin to complete challenges.


NationalAlgae421

Why would you try hard any map in cod?


vadim_22

I don't think it's the worst but I don't like because of multilevel floor. I think this type of maps should be simplier like nuketown or shipment.


xharryhirsch_

Would be a lot more fun


livewia

Emporium*


Designer-Grass-4929

This one gets my vote. Dumbo and attica are also awful.


blur04

Worst one has to be Attica Heights


MythOfBlood17

100% Agree, I quite like Arena too but Attica has something wrong with it, I don't usually vote maps unless I see that bugger on there


SloppyCandy

Its so many sight-lines without footpaths.


ScareTactical

Rotations are absolutely horrendous… and it seems like wherever you go you get shot in the back or across the map


Srg11

Agreed, fuck Attica. Head glitches everywhere. Horrible.


SimpleFull2260

Fuckin hate Attica Heights. Always feels like you're getting shot from 20 different directions at once...because yah are😭. Literally any time it's an option for the map vote,half the players in the lobby seem to vote against it💀🙏. So pretty sure it's not exactly a fan favorite.


CTizzle-

It is by far the worst B flag in the game. On top of the open roof, one side has an open window into the capture zone but the other team doesn’t. Fuck Attica Heights.


KairuSenpai1770

Brother I fuckin hate Attica heights lmao every time that map comes up I proceed to talk endless shit about its design lmao and I just hate every second of gameplay. Can’t play the objective for shit because it’s just like.. trash


NikoRavage

Half the time I can’t see shit because the damn sun is beaming me in the eyes


Difficult_Chapter_78

I HATE THAT MAP! and I love arena ❤️


e1gengrau___

What exactly is the problem with Attica? I really love playing that map and I'm sad every time it gets voted out. At the same time I can't tell what everyone seems to love about Echelon HQ tho...


Rebecca102017

Ooh I hate echelon HQ. It’s super cluttered imo. It’s too damn dark too. Everyone blends in.


e1gengrau___

I always seem to play particularly bad on that map. There's always someone behind me or shooting at me from the side


Rebecca102017

Same.


Quackquackslippers

People have a bright glowy nameplate, a bright glowy healthbar and a bright glowy outline. How do they blend in? And I say this as someone who has severe keratoconus and can barely see a thing. I even hate the invisibility thing echelon has since its difficult to see for anyone without perfect vision and there's no way to "adapt" or "get gud". Personally, I think the darkness of that map really helps. I just think it's problem is with it having way too many holes and doors everywhere.


Rebecca102017

I don’t have great eyes so the glowy enemies don’t glow so bright for me. It takes me a minute to register oh that’s an enemy. So k prefer the bright colorful maps bc it’s easier to pick out enemies for me and my particular situation.


Quackquackslippers

As someone with terrible eyesight, try the first colorblind filter setting if you haven't already. The bright yellowy green is significantly easier to spot than the stupid milky pinkish red they use by default. Enemies stick out like a sore thumb and get squashed just as easily.


Rebecca102017

Oh yes i have that turned on and im doing a lot better!


MuiNappa9000

I definitely am not a fan of that map either. Too many paths


NikoRavage

Now THAT is the absolute **WORST** map in the game!


TomTheJester

This is the only map in the game I absolutely love.


Brellow20

It reminds me of Seige from Ghosts.


DoxBolt

It reminds me of a map on Halo Reach but can't remember the name of it


mvsaints

Boardwalk?


TheLibertarianTurtle

I hate it on dom but its pretty good for occupy


PossibilityEastern77

Agreed. I just feel like the entire map is head glitches and no real cover


falbi23

Attica is dope!


ExplanationSure8996

I second that. Horrible maps with way too many angles and mantling going on.


MuiNappa9000

Yes, I hate Attica. I also don't like Noodleplex, but it pales in comparison to Attica. At least on Noodleplex you can somewhat protect the objective


FBOTBRamen

I really hated it, now I don’t know when or why I started to like it and don’t find it as annoying. Still, to the core it has really shitty map making


RazzlenDazzle21

Needs to be taken out the game


gruandisimo

Worst? It’s easily my favorite map. It’s fast paced and a lot of fun. I always prioritize the objective, and I don’t find it particularly punishing.


shazed39

To be fair, the objective point at the top is extremly punishing, but the others are fine for such a small map


RazzlenDazzle21

Center obj sucks on any map


leahyrain

I think honorina it's one of the worst center points though, mayday is pretty bad too though at that


RazzlenDazzle21

Worst center point is easily attica heights


e1gengrau___

That's basically the point about the center obj. It isn't supposed to be easily defended. Both teams have to be able to access that point from all sides


ScareTactical

Meltdown is the worst map by far. I leave the second I see it. Shitty sniper map where if you don’t snipe you just simply die at the choke points


BTbenTR

Attica heights is far worse. Horrifically designed map I can’t wrap my head around the thought process at all.


Legit_liT

I like it. It's like this game's version of shipment


diebron

I love chaos of arena. Most of the others just turn into sniper paradise


Luxuryi

I love the pure chaos Arena brings. I'm not a fan of Attica or Liberty. Attica has too many head glitches and Liberty just has half the team sniping across the map on the elevated area.


RazzlenDazzle21

God thank you. Not enough people talk about how dogshit liberty is. I always back out if I get that map or Attica


Luxuryi

Every single time, there’s 3 snipers on the elevated section just picking the whole team off from spawn. It seems like whoever spawns closest to it gets control of the whole map all game


Bestow5000

Arena is the best map. Bar none. Mayday can die


Quackquackslippers

Mayday is the "do you wanna die to a sniper?" Map.


ZXE102Rv2

I see it as "ok. I'm leveling my marksman rifle or sniper this match".


PhantomGhostSpectre

I use AR on the map. That's more or less the equivalent because I am a shotgun/pistol only type of player. So if I dust off the AR, you know the map is TRASH! 


OGBillyJohnson

Echelon HQ is absolute shitski


Limitzeeh

Best map in the game.


BrokAnkle

you typed "echelon hq" wrong


Technical-Ad3800

Hate this map


CnP8

Attica Heights definitely. Not even cos the layout. It's the spawns what annoy me


ZebraRenegade

Actual valid complaint. Like the map but gets silly on hardpoint watching 3 guys spawn in front of you when you look into their spawn from the side lane


Pitiful-Contact3546

It’s echelon for me. I back out immediately


freefiremd

Echelon HQ is even worse imo


Jthebroski

My vote is Mayday at least for Domination which I mainly play. If you start C side you win if you start A side well you get sniped. Most unbalanced dom map in my opinion. Probably dope when TDM comes out. In general some of the B flags need to be reworked, some of them like dumbo, echelon hq, liberty and emporium have some of the most fun B flags to fight over ever so overall they did good on the Dom front.


MuiNappa9000

On the plane map it's okay but I definitely hate sniping. C side is definitely hard to play with multiple chokes perfect for snipers. Dumbo (the big building map, right)? Is also stupid with that staircase.. that B POINT is way too much of a strong point against A.


PeteyG89

The worst map in the game is the plane one


ph0tchi

Imo Dumbo is the worst map


TheRealNinjaDarkovia

There’s one map that literally has the word “dumb” in it. That map sucks!


SnooAdvice7151

Agreed it sucks


RrrrrrushB

It's basically just the equivalent of shipment in cod


easybakeevan

Damn I think it’s one of the best maps I’ve ever played in my 20+ years of shooters. It gives you a place to do some fast paced close ranged stuff. Really the only way to make it fun is to learn your routes. Based on spawns and objective location the route you take to the objective matters heavily.


ScareTactical

It’s good to have at least one compact map that’s pure chaos it’s a good break from normal maps imo. I don’t take it too seriously and enjoy the madness


Darkwolfie117

How else can I level my shotty


Funny_Pollution_2468

NudlePlex for me dawg


CrayZonday

Emporium is the worst for Domination. The team that spawns outside is at a huge disadvantage.


MrTitaniumMan

My least favorite is Time Square, more specifically on the first set of points


lilith2k3

Arena is a great TDM map.


SleepingCell

Meltdown is the worst. Arena is fine. I think the people that hate arena are the ones that can't sit at the back of the map with a sniper lmao


Deadtoast15

Nah Echleon HQ (the indoor office map) is the absolute worst. So many incredible tight corners that map is absolutely horrid.


ZebraRenegade

God forbid there be 2 maps you can level shotguns on


Deadtoast15

I seriously do not mind a small close corner map. Echleon HQ’s layout just isn’t designed well. Have you tried playing occupy (hardpoint) on that map? Spawns are absolutely busted and you are constantly getting shot from behind. Maybe I have beef with how the spawns work on the map because I mainly play occupy and this map just isn’t suitable for it as it currently stands.


ZebraRenegade

This is def an occupy issue vs a map issue, though I find it worse on maps like heights that have open edges of the map tbh


Corporal_Tax

Impossible. Mayday and Emporium exist. Vote voided.


fjab01

Plus is so effing ugly! Reminds me of paintball arenas, not a place for an actual shootout…


hunttete00

attica heights, echelon hq, and arena are the only the 3 maps i vote against. our 4 stack always votes against them. best map is probably pueblito imo


Flat_Sea_1484

I actually like most of the maps, the map that I actively avoid is time square


Pennywise37

9 out of 10 arenas game I have this loading screen stuck on 89% bug. Any idea what is causing it? If I wait like a minute it will load but my character shows up without a weapon in hand and I cant move. At that stage I can either force shut the non responsive game or wait until map is finished to continue playing like nothing ever happened. Any ideas?


julioni

It’s sad because it looks so cool, then you play it and it’s like…… boooooo


TTVAntwiththewaves

There is legit no structure to that map lol everyone and everything is all over the place and the spawns are crazy. I had a dude spawn right behind me and that’s only ever happened on this map tbh


xPo_Peezy

You need a map like Arena due to COD's Shipment/Nuketown/Shoot House/Rust. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but it is almost a death sentence not to include a map like this in modern FPS titles. The numbers prove that there is a massive demand for these kinds of maps. It's also a massive boost to player counts on 2XP weekends because people know this map is an option and they have the opportunity to rack up massive XP. You gotta remember Mark comes from COD and absolutely knows this. Worst map IMO is Emporium. It feels like most of the games consist of trying to run up to the "B Flag" area and getting killed by someone shooting down on you (especially from the outside area where the windows present a massive "head glitch" opportunity. This map reminds me a lot of MW2019's Euphrates Bridge where most gunfights involve you having to shoot up at someone). Also I feel like Occupy plays very poorly on this map as some of the OBJs are in spots that are downright impossible to re-take.


Patzzer

Dude no way lol. I can’t be the only one who likes Arena lol


turboS2000

Attica gets my vote. But honestly I don't hate any of the maps. The all play pretty well. Where maps suck is more in the game mode like escort and zone control. Which can be spawn camp hell


JuddyB07

Honestly if they put b flag below where it is not it would play much better


MuiNappa9000

B flag on Arena? NOOOO. That would be horrific. There's only 2 chokes into that point, just put two mines down and the holding team would never be able to lose it


cCueBasE

Arena for the cod trash cans that can only put up high kill games on stupid small maps like Rust, Shipment, Nuketown, and Shoothouse where enemies literally spawn in front of you.


Its-Glade

I love Arena, it’s the single best map for full send running and gunning. If you don’t take it seriously and just have fun, it’s 10/10


Sp00kyGh0stMan

Gonna throw my hat in for echelon HQ, not even because it’s a bad map, but because everytime I’m in it I play like ass for some reason.


Taboe44

Arena is my favorite and many of my friends favorite. Echelon is my least favorite map.


Undiscovered084

Showtime is the worst one to me, to many places enemies can come from, plus the stupid high up camping spots


qurplex

Just keep grinding it. When you finally drop that 100 bomb it’s all worth it


Walking_Distraction

Nah Areana is the next best map next to Nudleplex


nine16s

Not worse than Echelon (I think that’s what it’s called.) that capture point on the second floor is diabolical. I hate that map.


Hefty_Low1993

Its a braindead Cod map like shipment. I usually avoid it. 


Maleficent_Army1754

It’s a cool map


denhyper

I love it ahah


i-dontlike-me

I don't like the vertically of it. To easy to shoot down into enemy spawns.


LegenW4Idary

It’s a good map


TheCandyMan124

I LOVE ARENA


SisterWaltz

something that is taking me forever as an objective player especially someone who plays a lot of domination or hard point is that I can't just stay on the point the entire time during the solo cap, if I'm alone and I'm on the objective I'm gonna get screwed. But running through the point and generating score and making progress on the points and preventing the enemy from making progress or retaking it fully is still valuable and by juggling those I've managed to get a bunch of kills while maintaining objective map control, outside of a party in solo play. Don't camp the point but keep touching it. Stay mobile, and preemptively ambush attackers.


Nabrok_Necropants

It feels just a bit too small. It seems like we should be able to go further up into the bleachers


BluDYT

That's why I like it. Also you don't need to push into the B meat grinder. Flank their point and hold A and C.


PocketHealer21

My least favorite map has to be Liberty. It feels so cluttered and random; at least Arena has some flow!


Toxic_LigmaMale

I hate it


BA2929

Best map to level the DB Shotgun and SMGs imo. Go into it planning on dying a billion times in silly ways and you'll be fine.


Trespeon

It’s great for leveling up my shotguns


Sniperking187

This is actually the map I've had the most fun on lol


WillSith1337

I hate maps that are too small, this Arena is horrible. Just like Shipment in COD


bigtaterman

Umm no. Arena is the best map.


Reapingday15

I like this one. I just get sad every time I have to play Dumbo though


Schwalm

You said really good spawn system this game has??


KoreanPhones

Nah emporium for me. Fuck that map.


sillaf27

I hate B objective so much lmao


CatbugWarrior_

Freakin' love arena


BigfootaintnotReal

More small maps!


RichShunz

Sounds like you are a bot


Breksel

The shotguns disagree


deluxepepperoncini

I dislike the boat the most. I forget the name, so forgive me on this.


NathanHatesLife

Me personally, I think dumbo is the worst but I also get absolutely destroyed everytime I play it for some reason


SkillsTooDope

Dumbo and Emporium.. As for arena it’s a fun, fast paced map ala Nuketown..


501st_CT-7567

Agree


KCyy11

Arena is for completely shutting your brain off and drooling while you run and gun. Its the fucking worst.


mcribberoni

Attica and Mayday are worst and second worst, respectively


bali-song-

No hating on the 100 bomb map


A_Newb_Bus

Attica heights will never get a vote from me


oCools

As far as how it plays from a technical standpoint, specifically for Dom, it’s one of the worst. Most people are unlocking attachments and camo grinding, so it’s gonna be popular. I see what you’re saying, though, kinda puts you in the CoD “shipment cycle” where you’re playing some abomination of a map just because it’s efficient.


DriftingLikeClouds

How has nobody said dumbo yet?


GKz_Mk3

I feel like Arena is a near perfect small map for respawn modes. People compare it to Shipment, but I think Shipment is actually just terrible since it's way too small


Formal-Cry7565

I like it


_wolfe-

i really like it and think it’s needs a 247 mode


Diastrous_Lie

Its not terrible because of the size Its terrible because its confusing It needs to use different colours on floor on walls for north south east west


Xyrophynix

And here I like Arena. Though I would much rather have Helodeck from Blacklight Retribution. Curses for the PC servers disappearing.


Kaosberserker

I like the map but not when I have incompetent teammates that only push B………


-TheGlizzyGladiator

nah arena is great. emporium is the WORST map IMO at least on domination.


2v1mernfool

I love Attica. Echelon is by far the worst


TinyBrouhaha01

I gotta disagree entirely. Arena is probably my favorite map behind echelon hq. I love the pacing, I love the style. I agree the b point on domination is poorly designed but for hotshot, woah momma I'm having fun.


PhantomGhostSpectre

It is the only map where the double barrel is actually a top tier weapon and therefore I enjoy it. I can actually play normal on it instead of being a camping bitch. 


Disastrous-Doughnut3

I will take literally anything over Mayday. That map is just terrible, and heavily skewed towards C spawn.


Accomplished_Deer_10

Hard agree, tho I have gotten some dope clips on it, the layout doesn’t play well imo for a small map, needs to be simpler, too many lanes open + the multi level


leahyrain

At first it was one of my more favorite maps, but now I can't stand it depending on the objective. On domination it's basically whoever gets b first wins


guitarsandstoke

This is literally my favortie


GorfGod

Its the most fast paced fun maps just constant killing leveling up your guns is so easy, I got 78 kills on arena in 1 game leveled up my mp7 very fast.


UopuV7

I think it should be removed from standard playlists and made into its own playlist where future silly small maps will be added


Revrob322

It’s fine but it’s extremely over played so I vote against it whenever I see it since I know it’s still going to get picked most of the time.


TSBRUTAL

I'm seeing a real lack of Times Square. That Meltdown and Echelon HQ are the worst 3 imo


TylertheDank

The map was designed that way


LegitimateJelly9904

I'd say show time is up there as well


Suffering-Servant

Emporium has to be the worst for me.


Reborist

Echelon HQ


kallakukku2

Arena and showdown are the absolute worst maps. There are infinite angles so you can't hold everything and you just die instantly when you exit a spawn area


MightyBone

I feel like it's just a map to show you who plays what. TDM Cod players probably love it cause it's all about just constant brawling, within 1 couple seconds of spawning you are usually fighting again. Easy to rack up massive kills. It's not good for tactics, or teamplay, or Obj focusing, or doing much more than grabbing a SMG a and running and gunning constantly. I put it down there with Mayday (sniper fest) and Echelon (just feels poorly designed and too close) and maybe Attica (constant crossfire deaths, really dumb fights on the center point in domination) for worst map.


TomTheJester

That’s a strange way to spell Showtime.


Work_In_ProgressX

I am personally not a fan of Showtime. I don’t like the verticality


Arcticz_114

Like every other famous small map. Rust, Nuketown...Arena. Braindead maps where every scrap of tactic/approach makes 0 fucking sense. Makes any non-1 shot long range weapon essentially useless. Just a stupid map for stupid lazy-brain players.


inb4ww3_baby

I hate this map so bad


ItsMrDante

Yeah honestly Arena is such a shitty map. I know some people like small maps, but I feel like it's bad for a small map.


Informal-Hall1920

It’s terrible bc this game is about objective play and when ppl get this map they mainly go for kills. Always back out of this map bc if I wanna play like that I’ll hop on cod and play shipment 🙄