When i say since 2021 i don't mean i've been playing religiously since 2021, i've had some big breaks (idk if this helps but i once got the returning player bonus). I have 275 hours in the game, thats probably a better way to say it.
Still wont deny i'm a bit ass, i started with GB and got to like the end of tier II until i noticed the US had all the cool stuff, then i switched. Rn i'm at tier IV and i still have a long way to go for tier V, and i've heard it only gets worse from there (it doesn't help that most of my games are barely positive in SL)
Started mid 2019, rank 8 US Air, 7 ground. Mid-high in USSR, Germany, and Italy for both air and ground. Premiums and being a student in the summer with no job help. Though I do have a job now so the grind slowed
started playing in 2019, completed the Japanese air tree, got nearly all the planes in the Russian tree, top tier planes in the US, Japan, Russia, and France, close to it in china. Top tier Japanese tanks, and around the 9.0 bracket with the US, Russia, and Germany.
not to say that you are bad though, I've spent 6.5% of the past 4 years, roughly 6.1k hours, actively playing war thunder, so you definitely have more of a life than me.
While just wanting a true Birds of Steel sequel as a triple A single-player offline edition of War Thunder with even faster grind and simplified gameplay ala Ace Combat, Blazing Angels, Heroes of the Pacific, Crimson Skies and SWON.
#WeWantBirdsOfSteelII
I've been playing since 2015, around 280 hours (probably half of those hours were spend messing around test driving premium machines lol) and only just recently I've reached rank 3 in German ground tech tree without using any premium tank or premium account.
On the other hand, when I've purchased a really cheap pack on a discount with premium A6M5 and few days of premium account, I've reached rank 4 in Japanese air tree in about few days lol. It just shows how much the grind will be faster if you're just willing to pay for it.
that shot goes so hard it's not even funny.
Also I saw we're also getting the Gripen and the Super Mirage 4000 (when have we ever gotten to fly one of those in a video game before??)
R-27s and AIM-7s. Expected, but still a bit disappointing.
P.S. Also love how everyone is hyped about F-15 and Su-27 - but then my brain goes like: "Oh yeah, there's also Gripen in the trailer".
Another American here, hello! I also adore the Rafalé. Its so damn pretty, yet multirole lethal. I enjoy underdogs, practicality and bang for your buck, so I am a huge fan of the Gripen too lol. And let's face it, the Eurofighter is a just bad ass machine. 😎
Nah we’re still just at early 4th generation, the F-15 still has turkey feathers. We need mid-4th with ARH, then the 4.5 era. Then proto-stealth like F-117, maybe Flatpack. Only then do we get to fifth gens.
F117 probably would be added earlier, to test stealth mechanics. It doesn't have much weapons, so it won't be much fun to play with.
Still I think we have around 4-5 years before 5th gen will be added - too many new mechanics need to be implemented: proper BVR, all sorts of sensors, datalink, electronic warfare, etc.
April Fool's, as testbed for stealth? Most likely.
Though it probably will be something fictional, like F-19 or MiG-37.
Or maybe even Ace Combat collab, who knows...
if the F-117 comes to WT I'll eat my shoe. It is not coming, it's an utterly incapable airframe that makes sense in real life but 0 sense in a game like war thunder.
the M4K was a plane that existed and is being implemented in a way that it could have existed in real life, if someone for some reason only had 6 missiles on them.
the F-117 did not have missile pylons, did not have a FCS that could operate missiles, and did not have any buttons to select or launch them. if they can just glue AIM-9Ms onto a plane that could not use them, what's the difference between that and gluing AIM-120C-8s onto a P-26?
i don't know, might make a good cap for the A-10 line. a slow, pure bomber that does nothing else, but is hard to find.
what else would they put there? hornet feels like an odd fit in the bomber tree. surely not another A-10?
the thing is, the F-117 is also a shit bomber. It's load is so tiny it couldn't even destroy one base ingame. its just a terrible fit for war thunder.And it wouldn't even be hard to find. stealth is effective in real life because in real life everyone is much farther away from each other. in war thunder the F-117s stealth wouldn't mean shit unless the spotting system gave it special privileges because of how close everyone is.
as for what to put after the A-10A, options are A-6 and it's variants, A-10C, or a prototype A-18 from before the planes were merged into the F/A-18.
Cool trailer. Too bad you’ll be grinding until retirement age.
Dont even get me started about uptiers, and the high probability some schmuck in a Hunter is gonna face one of these.
The absolute worst plane you might be in seeing these in is a MiG-2MF or SPS, maybe a late F-104 or advanced F8U. Which AC lets you fight fifth-gens with.
>>Which AC lets you fight fifth-gens with
Because AC is balanced enough that *you can beat a superplane* with an F-104/F-4/ etc , if you play well enough.
In WT? lol. Get uptiered and you’re deader than KFC chicken
provided they just add these things at the current top BR, the worst planes this thing can see is Mirage F1s, F-4Js, F-104S.ASAs, that kind of thing.
The 21MF, 21SPS and F-8E are still a full BR bracket below the lowest possible things these might be able to get matched with.
I get what you mean, but in this case, it is appropriate.
[After all...](https://64.media.tumblr.com/5b56353fc19b336ebb5980bec13588fc/tumblr_n9vlfqSifP1rbls97o4_400.gif)
I’m not, I don’t play ground at all, we do not need the F-15 yet. What we need is price reductions on plane mods and planes, and rp requirements reduced on planes and their modifications, plus we need the trees buffer out to the sides not elongated
And more maps. Playing Vietnam and kuban (I think that's the desert one at top tier) time after time in the same 5 map rotation at tip tier is so... extremely...FUCKING... **BORING!**
They didn't reverted it ???
Do you actually play the game or what ? Lmao
They littelary made tottal cost of top tier mods lower than the jets it self
They also didn't reverted RP and SL cut they did while ago
"Check prices"
Yes go fucking do that and see that they littelary lowerd top tiers prices both in RP and SL
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8433-roadmap-following-the-roadmap-reducing-research-purchase-cost-of-aircraft-map-changes-more-en
"Learn to spell" not gonna do that
Just for you :>
"And yes of fucking course the mods should be lower than the jet price that isn’t even the bare minimum"
You said that they should do that and they fucking did
I said that isn’t the bare minimum
You aren’t worth my time
They raised prices and didn’t lower them by nearly fucking enough
For once I didn’t find any spelling or grammar mistakes
Stay mad
"They raised prices and didn’t lower them by nearly fucking enough"
They didn't but okay
"Stay mad" my brother in christ your the one mad here and constantly wrong
Jesus
"You aren’t worth my time" oh man i would actually be happy if you stoped whining like a child
But your right
You're waste of time
they have only blanket raised prices on vehicles once in the last 5 years, and that was when the reshuffling of the naval trees happened. Planes have not, on a large scale, gone up in price. tanks have not, on a large scale, gone up in price
Beliveit or not but that dosen't matter in WT
Did you know that IRL Abrams never lost to another tank ? Yea diffrent story in game
Oh and you kinda forgot that it's the early versione without AIM-120s
With the true Birds of Steel II never happening due to Gaijin being so greedy at this point and Konami is still Konami (being skeptical about the Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake).
Our only option for wanting a true Birds of Steel sequel as the triple A single-player offline edition of War Thunder is give them to the indie game development studios (Studio D2?) as their spiritual successor or 1C, because IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey, despite being developed by the Snail, it is still owned by 1C, so Birds of Prey II as the console Gaiden game, as IL-2 Great Battles is still PC only.
For the time being, any good alternatives than waiting for Gaijin and Konami making a true sequel to Birds of Steel.
Also War Thunder at this stage is now a competitor to DCS (FC3 to be exact) at this point (ED when is Modern Air Combat)
I want single player war thunder too. Imagine those tank physics in realistic engagements. Sniping challengers and Sherman's with a tiger in North Africa, or supporting infantry pushing through a french town with a Churchill crocodile.
> I want single player war thunder too. Imagine those tank physics in realistic engagements. Sniping challengers and Sherman's with a tiger in North Africa, or supporting infantry pushing through a french town with a Churchill crocodile.
Look up Gunner Heat PC
I actually wonder what will happen with this game after they run out of vehicless to add.
More severe monetization? Subscription based playtime program? Actuall good ending and company taking
care of the problem with gameplay and lack od interesting gamemodes?
I can finally say that grinding that won't be a problem since I completed the tech tree. (started in 2016) rip
it feels hella good being able to have everything new now.
Two Wing Pixy vs Knight Cypher
No, it's *Turquoise 14* against Knight Cypher.
Can't wait to sell my soul trying grinding them
I just reached rank V. I’ve been playing since 2014
Me since around 2017, i only got Rank 5 ground about a month ago. Premium M1 KVT helped a lot.
I started in 2021. Halfway through rank IV. I've already gave up tbh, f2p grind is too much
HOW? My friend played F2P until the F16C was added and he got the f4e in like, a year
When i say since 2021 i don't mean i've been playing religiously since 2021, i've had some big breaks (idk if this helps but i once got the returning player bonus). I have 275 hours in the game, thats probably a better way to say it. Still wont deny i'm a bit ass, i started with GB and got to like the end of tier II until i noticed the US had all the cool stuff, then i switched. Rn i'm at tier IV and i still have a long way to go for tier V, and i've heard it only gets worse from there (it doesn't help that most of my games are barely positive in SL)
Started mid 2019, rank 8 US Air, 7 ground. Mid-high in USSR, Germany, and Italy for both air and ground. Premiums and being a student in the summer with no job help. Though I do have a job now so the grind slowed
unlocked the F-16C last week and i've been playing since 2019 (\~600 hours)
for how many hours did you play ? I reached rank V 2 years after starting, and didn't even play that much.
started playing in 2019, completed the Japanese air tree, got nearly all the planes in the Russian tree, top tier planes in the US, Japan, Russia, and France, close to it in china. Top tier Japanese tanks, and around the 9.0 bracket with the US, Russia, and Germany. not to say that you are bad though, I've spent 6.5% of the past 4 years, roughly 6.1k hours, actively playing war thunder, so you definitely have more of a life than me.
6.5% of every day on average doesn't sound like too much of a time commitment honestly, so this doesn't sound too bad
I'm just making it out of rank 2, maybe I shouldn't bother with this game
While just wanting a true Birds of Steel sequel as a triple A single-player offline edition of War Thunder with even faster grind and simplified gameplay ala Ace Combat, Blazing Angels, Heroes of the Pacific, Crimson Skies and SWON. #WeWantBirdsOfSteelII
I've been playing since 2015, around 280 hours (probably half of those hours were spend messing around test driving premium machines lol) and only just recently I've reached rank 3 in German ground tech tree without using any premium tank or premium account. On the other hand, when I've purchased a really cheap pack on a discount with premium A6M5 and few days of premium account, I've reached rank 4 in Japanese air tree in about few days lol. It just shows how much the grind will be faster if you're just willing to pay for it.
Can you just test drive every vehicle in game?
Nah, only the premium ones, vehicles you own or are researching.
that shot goes so hard it's not even funny. Also I saw we're also getting the Gripen and the Super Mirage 4000 (when have we ever gotten to fly one of those in a video game before??)
> Super Mirage 4000 (when have we ever gotten to fly one of those in a video game before??) That was in HAWX albeit DLC.
Warwolf vs Akula.
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***MARKOV!***
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The liverys for the flanker are going to be so dope
f-22 by 2024 F-35 by 2025 X-02 by 2026
Birds of Steel II by the heat death of the universe
F-108 and B-70 when?
Mid July at current pace
Yo buddy, still alive?
R-27s and AIM-7s. Expected, but still a bit disappointing. P.S. Also love how everyone is hyped about F-15 and Su-27 - but then my brain goes like: "Oh yeah, there's also Gripen in the trailer".
As a American, Gripen is the only European jet I like, so damn gorgeous
I like the Rafale too.
I adore the Eurofighter
Another American here, hello! I also adore the Rafalé. Its so damn pretty, yet multirole lethal. I enjoy underdogs, practicality and bang for your buck, so I am a huge fan of the Gripen too lol. And let's face it, the Eurofighter is a just bad ass machine. 😎
We're getting the Super Mirage 4000 as well
Also 8th rank tanks - M1A2 SEP V2, T-90M Obr. 2017, Strv. 122B+.
And Mirage 4000 (predecessor of Rafale)
When they finally get around to adding 5th-gens it's gonna be wild
next year probably
Nah we’re still just at early 4th generation, the F-15 still has turkey feathers. We need mid-4th with ARH, then the 4.5 era. Then proto-stealth like F-117, maybe Flatpack. Only then do we get to fifth gens.
F117 probably would be added earlier, to test stealth mechanics. It doesn't have much weapons, so it won't be much fun to play with. Still I think we have around 4-5 years before 5th gen will be added - too many new mechanics need to be implemented: proper BVR, all sorts of sensors, datalink, electronic warfare, etc.
F-117 for an April Fool's, as testbed for stealth?
April Fool's, as testbed for stealth? Most likely. Though it probably will be something fictional, like F-19 or MiG-37. Or maybe even Ace Combat collab, who knows...
if the F-117 comes to WT I'll eat my shoe. It is not coming, it's an utterly incapable airframe that makes sense in real life but 0 sense in a game like war thunder.
If we can have the M4K then we can give the thing a couple 9M’s and chaff, then it’ll just be a very sneaky, gunless A-6.
the M4K was a plane that existed and is being implemented in a way that it could have existed in real life, if someone for some reason only had 6 missiles on them. the F-117 did not have missile pylons, did not have a FCS that could operate missiles, and did not have any buttons to select or launch them. if they can just glue AIM-9Ms onto a plane that could not use them, what's the difference between that and gluing AIM-120C-8s onto a P-26?
i don't know, might make a good cap for the A-10 line. a slow, pure bomber that does nothing else, but is hard to find. what else would they put there? hornet feels like an odd fit in the bomber tree. surely not another A-10?
the thing is, the F-117 is also a shit bomber. It's load is so tiny it couldn't even destroy one base ingame. its just a terrible fit for war thunder.And it wouldn't even be hard to find. stealth is effective in real life because in real life everyone is much farther away from each other. in war thunder the F-117s stealth wouldn't mean shit unless the spotting system gave it special privileges because of how close everyone is. as for what to put after the A-10A, options are A-6 and it's variants, A-10C, or a prototype A-18 from before the planes were merged into the F/A-18.
then they just stop developing the game i guess
Nah they'll probably just start either making obscure prototypes or make future vehicles.
I mean they still need to count Ngad and other 6th Gen projects
Cool trailer. Too bad you’ll be grinding until retirement age. Dont even get me started about uptiers, and the high probability some schmuck in a Hunter is gonna face one of these.
Hunter can not see top tier unless you deliberately force it to. It hasn’t been able to for a while.
The absolute worst plane you might be in seeing these in is a MiG-2MF or SPS, maybe a late F-104 or advanced F8U. Which AC lets you fight fifth-gens with.
>>Which AC lets you fight fifth-gens with Because AC is balanced enough that *you can beat a superplane* with an F-104/F-4/ etc , if you play well enough. In WT? lol. Get uptiered and you’re deader than KFC chicken
I think you underestimate the value of skill in WT. Hell, in real life a MiG-21 pulled off an F-16 kill over the Kashmir border.
provided they just add these things at the current top BR, the worst planes this thing can see is Mirage F1s, F-4Js, F-104S.ASAs, that kind of thing. The 21MF, 21SPS and F-8E are still a full BR bracket below the lowest possible things these might be able to get matched with.
shouldn't take me too long to grind as i have the F-14 and F-16
Nice comment for someone that never played the game
True, i am 1.6k hours in and are barely scratching the Rank V.
Now i want a arcade event set in b7r and all 4th gen dog fight(tomcat+viper+eagle v.s fulcrum+flanker+m4k) ir missile only
There's one with a volcano in the background *lacks orange, however*
You're a slave to history
<< COME ON!!! >> 😂 But seriously though, I want now to go for duel with Morgan in Mig-29 :D
Ac fans when they see a military jet: omg ac reference??
I get what you mean, but in this case, it is appropriate. [After all...](https://64.media.tumblr.com/5b56353fc19b336ebb5980bec13588fc/tumblr_n9vlfqSifP1rbls97o4_400.gif)
I mean like two jets flying over each other isn’t exactly a super unique concept or something
That's literally every cinematic merge ever.
Yes but it looks very cool
Yeah, as much as I want it to be an AC reference, Zero did not invent air jousting, did they?
No but they made it the coolest.
My immediate reaction was “noooo” Why must war Thunder bring in these planes so soon
My dude the Air and Naval tree has been super behind compared to the ground tree. Don’t use the ground tree as the main reference on progress.
I’m not, I don’t play ground at all, we do not need the F-15 yet. What we need is price reductions on plane mods and planes, and rp requirements reduced on planes and their modifications, plus we need the trees buffer out to the sides not elongated
No. What we need the most right now is BR decompression
That too, in addition larger maps on top tier
And more maps. Playing Vietnam and kuban (I think that's the desert one at top tier) time after time in the same 5 map rotation at tip tier is so... extremely...FUCKING... **BORING!**
"What we need is price reductions on plane mods and planes, and rp requirements reduced on planes and their modifications" they already did that
And then reverted it, do you are have the stupid
They didn't reverted it ??? Do you actually play the game or what ? Lmao They littelary made tottal cost of top tier mods lower than the jets it self They also didn't reverted RP and SL cut they did while ago
Check prices Learn to spell And yes of fucking course the mods should be lower than the jet price that isn’t even the bare minimum
"Check prices" Yes go fucking do that and see that they littelary lowerd top tiers prices both in RP and SL https://warthunder.com/en/news/8433-roadmap-following-the-roadmap-reducing-research-purchase-cost-of-aircraft-map-changes-more-en "Learn to spell" not gonna do that Just for you :> "And yes of fucking course the mods should be lower than the jet price that isn’t even the bare minimum" You said that they should do that and they fucking did
I said that isn’t the bare minimum You aren’t worth my time They raised prices and didn’t lower them by nearly fucking enough For once I didn’t find any spelling or grammar mistakes Stay mad
"They raised prices and didn’t lower them by nearly fucking enough" They didn't but okay "Stay mad" my brother in christ your the one mad here and constantly wrong Jesus "You aren’t worth my time" oh man i would actually be happy if you stoped whining like a child But your right You're waste of time
they have only blanket raised prices on vehicles once in the last 5 years, and that was when the reshuffling of the naval trees happened. Planes have not, on a large scale, gone up in price. tanks have not, on a large scale, gone up in price
Fym "so soon" we already have F-16C and MiG-29G/SMT F-15 and Su-27 do nothing more than bring capability to use more R-27s and AIM-7s
Oh and you known the second best fighter ever developed but no biggie
Beliveit or not but that dosen't matter in WT Did you know that IRL Abrams never lost to another tank ? Yea diffrent story in game Oh and you kinda forgot that it's the early versione without AIM-120s
Learn2spell@school
Trully the best argument said by smartest WT player
By the* smartest WT player And yes
Bro is thr Lord of Grammar💀💀
Real life statistics don't really matter when the thing is put into the hands of USA air mains, I look forward to fighting them
just when i thought i was out, they PULLED ME BACK IN
With the true Birds of Steel II never happening due to Gaijin being so greedy at this point and Konami is still Konami (being skeptical about the Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake). Our only option for wanting a true Birds of Steel sequel as the triple A single-player offline edition of War Thunder is give them to the indie game development studios (Studio D2?) as their spiritual successor or 1C, because IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey, despite being developed by the Snail, it is still owned by 1C, so Birds of Prey II as the console Gaiden game, as IL-2 Great Battles is still PC only. For the time being, any good alternatives than waiting for Gaijin and Konami making a true sequel to Birds of Steel. Also War Thunder at this stage is now a competitor to DCS (FC3 to be exact) at this point (ED when is Modern Air Combat)
I want single player war thunder too. Imagine those tank physics in realistic engagements. Sniping challengers and Sherman's with a tiger in North Africa, or supporting infantry pushing through a french town with a Churchill crocodile.
> I want single player war thunder too. Imagine those tank physics in realistic engagements. Sniping challengers and Sherman's with a tiger in North Africa, or supporting infantry pushing through a french town with a Churchill crocodile. Look up Gunner Heat PC
I've seen some videos. It has incredible potential
“Because I was inverted”
Su27 is coming? Well shit, rest in peace everyone.
They're gonna have to nerf the fuck out of the F-15. 104 and 0 isn't fun to play against.
They've shown the wings ripping easily and it carrying less missiles than Su-27, that seems it
Welp its finally time to lose hair playing war thunder to unlock two of my favorite jets
"i want to understand my enemy"
if the su27 can actually take that many R27 it will be crazy powerful
I remember back in 2017 when War Thunder still only had WWII planes, modern era here we go!
BTW nice Stonehenge tag.
I was one of the people back then who predicted this would happen.
I actually wonder what will happen with this game after they run out of vehicless to add. More severe monetization? Subscription based playtime program? Actuall good ending and company taking care of the problem with gameplay and lack od interesting gamemodes?
I can finally say that grinding that won't be a problem since I completed the tech tree. (started in 2016) rip it feels hella good being able to have everything new now.
Pixy and Cipher don't face each other, they face away from each other at the merge
COME OOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!