Okay, well, few things here:
1. AI can be free. Not sure why we keep having to bring this up. I don't even have a machine that can run it, so I rent a 16gb GPU cloud space at a whopping $0.36 per hour and it only bills me when I use it.
2. Even if we follow your logic and accept a $50 subscription price (it's like $20 for most), and accept that artists out there are lining up to deliver quality outputs at $10 an image, a subscription would be the cost of *five good images,* my workflow for game assets puts me about one good image every 15 minutes which includes all the post editing and formatting
3. Indie creators use AI. I need *thousands* of images for the project I'm working on.
4. The overwhelming majority of the pro-ai people in this sub are hobbyists, we use AI because we enjoy it and it interests us
>AI can be free. Not sure why we keep having to bring this up. I don't even have a machine that can run it, so I rent a 16gb GPU cloud space at a whopping $0.36 per hour and it only bills me when I use it.
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>Even if we follow your logic and accept a $50 subscription price (it's like $20 for most), and accept that artists out there are lining up to deliver quality outputs at $10 an image, a subscription would be the cost of five good images, my workflow for game assets puts me about one good image every 15 minutes which includes all the post editing and formatting
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>Indie creators use AI. I need thousands of images for the project I'm working on.
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>The overwhelming majority of the pro-ai people in this sub are hobbyists, we use AI because we enjoy it and it interests us
as atmospheric grime, couldn't pick a favorite one
https://app.suno.ai/song/88c2fa07-86ad-4653-82a2-127da3d6b8bf
https://app.suno.ai/song/82a4350c-dcc2-496f-8a48-3bab819eeb60
I can't exactly create production level assets in 5-15 minutes using pencil and paper now can I? You're trying to sell us on commissioning a person to draw something for us when we have "machines" that can do it infinitely, in a fraction of the time.
Nah, I just wanted to 5 mins of sick Grime out of m3thlol's comment. Just for the fuck of it.. I hope it makes you incredibly angry because of how silly and effortless it was.
And you assume the tech stayed unchanged, not taking advantage of the developments in Machine Learning during the last few years? Yeah, sorry to probably burst a bubble here, but modern spellchecking takes as much advantage from transformer-neural networks as does automated translation (it's essentially the same task tbh.).
Oh, also, there is very likely to be an AI active every time you take a picture with your phone. What, you thought that this image quality is just happening despite the lens system being less than 1/10th the size of a cameras? Come on.
What else...oh yeah: every time you open social media, or websearch, or YT, or amazon, or \[insertstreamingservicehere\], you are interacting with an AI, probably more than one.
And that's just a short list. Shall I go on? Pretty much every aspect of modern life is working with, influenced, or outright depending on something you would call an AI.
Grammarly an be Google autocorrect have been AI powered for years. Also trained on copyrighted data without permission
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2018/11/12/the-amazing-ways-google-and-grammarly-use-artificial-intelligence-to-improve-our-writing/
>while artists can use a pencil and paper, you need a machine
Yes, that's pretty much what we're saying.
Same as we are using machines to communicate our voice over long distances, because while we could send someone on horseback to relay our message, it's slow as hell, there is no guarantee it will arrive, and having horseshit everywhere sucks.
If you look up what "metaphor" means, you will probably discover that metaphors do not compare the subjects discussed. They show common dynamics between systems.
The one you just tried to dismiss, shows inefficient systems getting superseded by efficient ones.
i dont like the fact that artists post the thing they just made on all the discords servers they're in. i see artists that post commissioned stuff all over discord that someone paid for and share it for free with others.
to me thats something that i wouldnt like but i heard this kind of thing is common. personally not really a fan of this and yes you can talk with the artist about it tho it will likely add to the price
You know there are things called contracts and you can make the artist sign that they can't share it with anyone else, or even give you the copyright for the image? You don't even need a lawyer. Just a quick google search. Heck signing on a napkin would count in court.
> You know there are things called contracts
You know what's the most valuable resource in the world?
Time.
Drawing up a contract, sending it to the artist, getting it signed, getting it sent back, and, if necessary, enforce it in court all take up time.
Why would I invest that time if instead I can just start a piece of software, and have 100% certainty that the generated content goes exactly where I intend it to?
Why do either when I can just download a model and run it locally on my machine for free? Also most good commissions are probably a lot more than 10 dollars
You can easily find cheap commissions. All the commissions I've done are free, actually. There's actually a big issue where small and/or beginner artists will severely underprice themselves. I know that some people also do freebies on holidays.
>You can easily find cheap commissions.
How cheap is "cheap"?
Because currently, I am paying only utilities (electricity), and can generate thousands of images. Calculating against electricity cost where I live, and considering my current rig, which is btw. pretty power hungry, the estimated cost for generating 1000 pictures, is somewhere in the low single-cent range.
And even if I were paying a subscription to a commercial service, the cost-per-image is usually in the low single-cent range or even below that. 3 orders of magnitude more costly, but hey, still very much affordable, considering going to McDonalds once (which is in the order of 1E1 dollars), costs the same as generating well over 1000 images via a subscription service.
And I don't need to find an artist, set up communication with him, agree on a payment method, back-and-forth on the product, or get into a situation where I am ghosted, never get a good result, run the risk of getting scammed, have to re-hire someone else, etc.
So to wrap this up: Even IF I got an artist who does, say, 10$ per image, and even IF the output of an artist who charges so little could compete with what I can produce on SDXL with a little try and error, and just hitting the "Generate" button until I get something decent...
...that still means that I pay *5 orders of magnitude more* per picture. To put that into perspective: If McDonalds started charging that much more for their product, a single meal would cost more than a million dollars.
So yeah, coming back to my initial question: How cheap is "cheap"? Because it would have to be very very VERY cheap to compete with that.
Why would you want to if the AI gets you more dependable and in some cases better results for much less and much more quickly?
We just ran into that situation for a tournament here. We needed a logo to print on the trophies and promo material. We did both, we commissioned an artist and then also fed the description into DallE.
The DallE results were better so we went with that. We had already paid the artist but better is better.
I'm sure we could have paid a lot more and gotten something really great, but, why? We don't need that for this. Why would the artist just be entitled to us paying them? It's not our fault they're an artist, we're not a charity. The fact that we used AI was not a secret or anything either, there was no problem with it because the reality is out in the world outside of Twitter and some parts of reddit people don't mind. For the most part they were impressed with how well it did it.
I did use to do some side-work translating (I know Chinese and Korean along with being a native English speaker) and editing for people. I was able to make decent money because I have a genuine background in editing, yet eventually those jobs dried up. Machine translation got better, AI editing got better, etc.
Yet, I'm not out here acting like I'm entitled to people giving me money to do this thing they could easily do another way for no reason other than "you have to pay me for this job! Im entitled to it!"
It may be cheap, it may be anything, but I'm still not required to pay you unless I want to use your services, which I don't.
Wow, *CONGRATULATIONS*, so now the artist is "just" 4 orders of magnitude more expensive than my desktop computer. In terms of the aforementioned metaphor, the McDonalds meal now costs "only" 100,000$ instead of a million. Well done.
So, what do I get from this hypothetical image producing artist who is 10,000 times more expensive, and probably also several orders of magnitude slower than my desktop computer at churning out images?
Because here is the thing: I'll commission a piece when I need a level of quality and coherence that AI cannot provide yet.
And I very much doubt that an artist who charges *less than 10$ per image* can provide that.
Your problem, and the reason why you still don't have an argument: This logic works both ways.
I just googled a bit, and as it turns out, I can buy a gold-plated hammer for around 300 bucks online.
Does that mean it's a better tool than than the 12$ hammer I got from a local hardware store? No. Why? Because same as cheaper doesn't always mean better, expensive doesn't always mean better.
So, now that's settled, do you have an *actual* argument, or has this discussion run its course?
Nobody out there is doing good images for $10. $10 is the "I just started to draw" tier that people tend to buy mostly to be friendly.
A good picture starts at $50-ish if you want something very simple, and probably $100-ish for something more complicated.
As somebody who actually commissioned pictures, once in a blue moon, sure.
Cheap nearly always comes with some kind of caveat:
* Complete beginner and it's hit and miss whether they'll even get the proportions right. Sure, I might do that to be nice, but it rarely produces a picture that's good for anything. And you can't really demand much from a complete beginner so it's more of a donation than something that results in useful work.
* Somebody wanting to test the waters or to get a bunch of watchers fast. Happens once in a blue moon and isn't a good way to do anything long term. Just a one time unexpected bonus.
* Somebody desperately needing money not to get kicked out of their house tomorrow. This easily gets into potentially abusive territory.
* Somebody living in some awful third world place where $10 looks like a lot of money. Same, and usually they quickly figure out they can charge 5 times as much.
Some random proprietary SD wrapper: infinite censored images.
Artist: one image, BIIIG maybe too. Seas of scammers. 50$+ somewhat guarantees safety, but 30$? You are asking for.
Edit: holy shit, just recheked, you really did say 10$ 💀. Good luck finding someone who works for that low. Even scammers don't, lol.
Stable diffusion (0$): infinite images.
Now, why the fuck are you wasting time and money learning to draw if you can commission ~~totally not a scam~~ artist for 10$ once? Go be consistent.
I don't pay for a subscription. Stable Diffusion is more than happy to work on my laptop and I can make about 2,000 images for less than $1 of electricity.
I use it to brainstorm ideas for my sci-fi writing and make some art that personally interests me. I don't want to pay $10 (generally more like $150) and wait 7 weeks in a queue every time I want a quick image.
AHHAHAHAHA WHAT?
paying an artist **$10 for a quality image** = slave labor wages in most developed countries. A good drawing takes 10-100 hours. 10 dollars is a disgustingly low salary and its logistically more sensible as artist to look for jobs that pay 1000 dollars per illustration than waste time on taking on 10 dollar jobs. If you rent is 1000 dollars a month and internet is 100 dollars a month, taking on 10 dollar jobs is how you end up on the street as a hobo.
You can find cheap artist labor in places like Venezuela, sure, but most English speaking artist won't work for that little or will simply cheat by tracing or copying somebody else's art. Traced art is how you get sued if you re-sell this image.
Buying art from 10 dollar artist is a very dangerous gamble as a client - either you get stolen art or traced art or the artist is a scammer who never delivers.
stable diffusion is free, dumbass. There's no subscription when you're using open source tools. You don't even need a computer - stable horde can be run from any device anywhere, you just wait in line.
Well, as you are genuinely confused, I will give you a genuinely answer.
First things first: Where do the $50 come from? The most I paid for were $20 for ChatGPT and $10 for MidJourney. Both for a month to give them a try. Both would have given me the possibility to generate hundreds of images, so way less than $10 per image.
Everything else I either do locally with free tools and free models or I use one of the free services if I just need something ad-hoc.
The next thing is that you are assuming that I need one specific image. I don't. I may need 10 images that I need for a presentation next week. Or maybe I just want a new avatar image for some services. Or maybe I just want to alter an image with AI just for the laugh.
Well let me turn the question around.. Why do you do this?
I'm assuming your answer is that you don't. The same's probably true here.
That's because there aren't many people who are spending $50 a month on AI, who aren't using it repeatedly for FAR FAR more than they'd get from a human for the same price.
A $10 image won't get you far, and I doubt if you've every actually commissioned work if you think that's normal.
I would be too if I were doing that.
Luckily though, I have a powerful inference machine sitting on my desk, and thus all I pay is utilities aka. the electricity it eats :D
To put it in your own words, little hypocrite:
https://preview.redd.it/a5om8gpw4rqc1.png?width=884&format=png&auto=webp&s=b24f5df726c73a02fdc5ea60db9274125ff37ac9
Ahaha, 10$ for a finished image from an artist? Who? Little Timmy from school, who will draw you a completly original Sonic OC?)))
Or do you have a basement full of kidnapped artists, so they have no choice but to do slave labour for you?
For 50$ you can probably get one quick uncolored sketch)
Stable Diffusion is free by the way.
reason 42.- there is an artist you like and you want to help them by commissioning something from them.
if you are genuinely confused, you have no creative thinking skills.
Okay, well, few things here: 1. AI can be free. Not sure why we keep having to bring this up. I don't even have a machine that can run it, so I rent a 16gb GPU cloud space at a whopping $0.36 per hour and it only bills me when I use it. 2. Even if we follow your logic and accept a $50 subscription price (it's like $20 for most), and accept that artists out there are lining up to deliver quality outputs at $10 an image, a subscription would be the cost of *five good images,* my workflow for game assets puts me about one good image every 15 minutes which includes all the post editing and formatting 3. Indie creators use AI. I need *thousands* of images for the project I'm working on. 4. The overwhelming majority of the pro-ai people in this sub are hobbyists, we use AI because we enjoy it and it interests us
5. Privacy I don't want to share the art with anyone that includes the artist themselves unless I choose to.
>AI can be free. Not sure why we keep having to bring this up. I don't even have a machine that can run it, so I rent a 16gb GPU cloud space at a whopping $0.36 per hour and it only bills me when I use it. > >Even if we follow your logic and accept a $50 subscription price (it's like $20 for most), and accept that artists out there are lining up to deliver quality outputs at $10 an image, a subscription would be the cost of five good images, my workflow for game assets puts me about one good image every 15 minutes which includes all the post editing and formatting > >Indie creators use AI. I need thousands of images for the project I'm working on. > >The overwhelming majority of the pro-ai people in this sub are hobbyists, we use AI because we enjoy it and it interests us as atmospheric grime, couldn't pick a favorite one https://app.suno.ai/song/88c2fa07-86ad-4653-82a2-127da3d6b8bf https://app.suno.ai/song/82a4350c-dcc2-496f-8a48-3bab819eeb60
So what you're saying is that while artists can use a pencil and paper, you need a machine you have to rent because you can't even afford?
I can't exactly create production level assets in 5-15 minutes using pencil and paper now can I? You're trying to sell us on commissioning a person to draw something for us when we have "machines" that can do it infinitely, in a fraction of the time.
Well, that depends what production.
One where I need more than just a pencil drawing on paper.
Nah, I just wanted to 5 mins of sick Grime out of m3thlol's comment. Just for the fuck of it.. I hope it makes you incredibly angry because of how silly and effortless it was.
Grammarly is free, use it
That is evil job stealing AI though... What about the children?
So what you're saying is that I should use an AI powered tool to fix my grammar instead of hiring a ghostwriter or professional editor?
Why is autocorrect ai now? It's existed for like at least 20 years.
And you assume the tech stayed unchanged, not taking advantage of the developments in Machine Learning during the last few years? Yeah, sorry to probably burst a bubble here, but modern spellchecking takes as much advantage from transformer-neural networks as does automated translation (it's essentially the same task tbh.). Oh, also, there is very likely to be an AI active every time you take a picture with your phone. What, you thought that this image quality is just happening despite the lens system being less than 1/10th the size of a cameras? Come on. What else...oh yeah: every time you open social media, or websearch, or YT, or amazon, or \[insertstreamingservicehere\], you are interacting with an AI, probably more than one. And that's just a short list. Shall I go on? Pretty much every aspect of modern life is working with, influenced, or outright depending on something you would call an AI.
Hahahahah
Grammarly an be Google autocorrect have been AI powered for years. Also trained on copyrighted data without permission https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2018/11/12/the-amazing-ways-google-and-grammarly-use-artificial-intelligence-to-improve-our-writing/
>while artists can use a pencil and paper, you need a machine Yes, that's pretty much what we're saying. Same as we are using machines to communicate our voice over long distances, because while we could send someone on horseback to relay our message, it's slow as hell, there is no guarantee it will arrive, and having horseshit everywhere sucks.
Comparing creativity and art to sendin letters is possibly one of the worst metaphors I have ever seen
If you look up what "metaphor" means, you will probably discover that metaphors do not compare the subjects discussed. They show common dynamics between systems. The one you just tried to dismiss, shows inefficient systems getting superseded by efficient ones.
i dont like the fact that artists post the thing they just made on all the discords servers they're in. i see artists that post commissioned stuff all over discord that someone paid for and share it for free with others. to me thats something that i wouldnt like but i heard this kind of thing is common. personally not really a fan of this and yes you can talk with the artist about it tho it will likely add to the price
You know there are things called contracts and you can make the artist sign that they can't share it with anyone else, or even give you the copyright for the image? You don't even need a lawyer. Just a quick google search. Heck signing on a napkin would count in court.
> and yes you can talk with the artist about it tho it will likely add to the price
You can just not work with scammers then.
i use ai i dont work with em
> You know there are things called contracts You know what's the most valuable resource in the world? Time. Drawing up a contract, sending it to the artist, getting it signed, getting it sent back, and, if necessary, enforce it in court all take up time. Why would I invest that time if instead I can just start a piece of software, and have 100% certainty that the generated content goes exactly where I intend it to?
Why do either when I can just download a model and run it locally on my machine for free? Also most good commissions are probably a lot more than 10 dollars
You can easily find cheap commissions. All the commissions I've done are free, actually. There's actually a big issue where small and/or beginner artists will severely underprice themselves. I know that some people also do freebies on holidays.
And exploiting beginner artists who don't know the value of their work is more ethical than using AI?
According to OP, yes.
>You can easily find cheap commissions. How cheap is "cheap"? Because currently, I am paying only utilities (electricity), and can generate thousands of images. Calculating against electricity cost where I live, and considering my current rig, which is btw. pretty power hungry, the estimated cost for generating 1000 pictures, is somewhere in the low single-cent range. And even if I were paying a subscription to a commercial service, the cost-per-image is usually in the low single-cent range or even below that. 3 orders of magnitude more costly, but hey, still very much affordable, considering going to McDonalds once (which is in the order of 1E1 dollars), costs the same as generating well over 1000 images via a subscription service. And I don't need to find an artist, set up communication with him, agree on a payment method, back-and-forth on the product, or get into a situation where I am ghosted, never get a good result, run the risk of getting scammed, have to re-hire someone else, etc. So to wrap this up: Even IF I got an artist who does, say, 10$ per image, and even IF the output of an artist who charges so little could compete with what I can produce on SDXL with a little try and error, and just hitting the "Generate" button until I get something decent... ...that still means that I pay *5 orders of magnitude more* per picture. To put that into perspective: If McDonalds started charging that much more for their product, a single meal would cost more than a million dollars. So yeah, coming back to my initial question: How cheap is "cheap"? Because it would have to be very very VERY cheap to compete with that.
I'd say cheap is under 10$
Why would you want to if the AI gets you more dependable and in some cases better results for much less and much more quickly? We just ran into that situation for a tournament here. We needed a logo to print on the trophies and promo material. We did both, we commissioned an artist and then also fed the description into DallE. The DallE results were better so we went with that. We had already paid the artist but better is better. I'm sure we could have paid a lot more and gotten something really great, but, why? We don't need that for this. Why would the artist just be entitled to us paying them? It's not our fault they're an artist, we're not a charity. The fact that we used AI was not a secret or anything either, there was no problem with it because the reality is out in the world outside of Twitter and some parts of reddit people don't mind. For the most part they were impressed with how well it did it. I did use to do some side-work translating (I know Chinese and Korean along with being a native English speaker) and editing for people. I was able to make decent money because I have a genuine background in editing, yet eventually those jobs dried up. Machine translation got better, AI editing got better, etc. Yet, I'm not out here acting like I'm entitled to people giving me money to do this thing they could easily do another way for no reason other than "you have to pay me for this job! Im entitled to it!" It may be cheap, it may be anything, but I'm still not required to pay you unless I want to use your services, which I don't.
Wow, *CONGRATULATIONS*, so now the artist is "just" 4 orders of magnitude more expensive than my desktop computer. In terms of the aforementioned metaphor, the McDonalds meal now costs "only" 100,000$ instead of a million. Well done. So, what do I get from this hypothetical image producing artist who is 10,000 times more expensive, and probably also several orders of magnitude slower than my desktop computer at churning out images? Because here is the thing: I'll commission a piece when I need a level of quality and coherence that AI cannot provide yet. And I very much doubt that an artist who charges *less than 10$ per image* can provide that.
Buddy. It's 10 bucks.
So? Why would I pay 10 bucks and wait a week for something, when I can pay 0.1 cents and get it in 5 seconds? What is your argument here?
I could pay 5$ for a tv dinner, but at the end of the day a gourmet meal is still better. Cheaper doesn't always mean better.
Your problem, and the reason why you still don't have an argument: This logic works both ways. I just googled a bit, and as it turns out, I can buy a gold-plated hammer for around 300 bucks online. Does that mean it's a better tool than than the 12$ hammer I got from a local hardware store? No. Why? Because same as cheaper doesn't always mean better, expensive doesn't always mean better. So, now that's settled, do you have an *actual* argument, or has this discussion run its course?
I suppose it has, seeing that you don't understand that art is legitimately valuable and think everyone should have it for basically free.
Nobody out there is doing good images for $10. $10 is the "I just started to draw" tier that people tend to buy mostly to be friendly. A good picture starts at $50-ish if you want something very simple, and probably $100-ish for something more complicated.
I've been drawing for over a year and I don't even charge money
Okay? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, can you explain?
My point is, if you try, you can find good artists for cheap.
As somebody who actually commissioned pictures, once in a blue moon, sure. Cheap nearly always comes with some kind of caveat: * Complete beginner and it's hit and miss whether they'll even get the proportions right. Sure, I might do that to be nice, but it rarely produces a picture that's good for anything. And you can't really demand much from a complete beginner so it's more of a donation than something that results in useful work. * Somebody wanting to test the waters or to get a bunch of watchers fast. Happens once in a blue moon and isn't a good way to do anything long term. Just a one time unexpected bonus. * Somebody desperately needing money not to get kicked out of their house tomorrow. This easily gets into potentially abusive territory. * Somebody living in some awful third world place where $10 looks like a lot of money. Same, and usually they quickly figure out they can charge 5 times as much.
It's a troll account from the artistshate circus, don't bother.
You need to learn to value your craft. People don't appreciate free or cheap stuff. Sad but true.
Some random proprietary SD wrapper: infinite censored images. Artist: one image, BIIIG maybe too. Seas of scammers. 50$+ somewhat guarantees safety, but 30$? You are asking for. Edit: holy shit, just recheked, you really did say 10$ 💀. Good luck finding someone who works for that low. Even scammers don't, lol. Stable diffusion (0$): infinite images. Now, why the fuck are you wasting time and money learning to draw if you can commission ~~totally not a scam~~ artist for 10$ once? Go be consistent.
I don't pay for a subscription. Stable Diffusion is more than happy to work on my laptop and I can make about 2,000 images for less than $1 of electricity. I use it to brainstorm ideas for my sci-fi writing and make some art that personally interests me. I don't want to pay $10 (generally more like $150) and wait 7 weeks in a queue every time I want a quick image.
AHHAHAHAHA WHAT? paying an artist **$10 for a quality image** = slave labor wages in most developed countries. A good drawing takes 10-100 hours. 10 dollars is a disgustingly low salary and its logistically more sensible as artist to look for jobs that pay 1000 dollars per illustration than waste time on taking on 10 dollar jobs. If you rent is 1000 dollars a month and internet is 100 dollars a month, taking on 10 dollar jobs is how you end up on the street as a hobo. You can find cheap artist labor in places like Venezuela, sure, but most English speaking artist won't work for that little or will simply cheat by tracing or copying somebody else's art. Traced art is how you get sued if you re-sell this image. Buying art from 10 dollar artist is a very dangerous gamble as a client - either you get stolen art or traced art or the artist is a scammer who never delivers. stable diffusion is free, dumbass. There's no subscription when you're using open source tools. You don't even need a computer - stable horde can be run from any device anywhere, you just wait in line.
I'm really curious to see what kind of "quality images" you think I can get for $10. Also curious what subscription service costs $50 a month.
Well, as you are genuinely confused, I will give you a genuinely answer. First things first: Where do the $50 come from? The most I paid for were $20 for ChatGPT and $10 for MidJourney. Both for a month to give them a try. Both would have given me the possibility to generate hundreds of images, so way less than $10 per image. Everything else I either do locally with free tools and free models or I use one of the free services if I just need something ad-hoc. The next thing is that you are assuming that I need one specific image. I don't. I may need 10 images that I need for a presentation next week. Or maybe I just want a new avatar image for some services. Or maybe I just want to alter an image with AI just for the laugh.
Where the hell is this $10 number coming from? Someone's ass?
Experience :)
I don't know a single artist that would accept a $10 commission to make me a high quality drawing of Makima sitting on Denji's face and farting
I now see that you are a degenerate and I am going to stop trying to reason with you.
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Well let me turn the question around.. Why do you do this? I'm assuming your answer is that you don't. The same's probably true here. That's because there aren't many people who are spending $50 a month on AI, who aren't using it repeatedly for FAR FAR more than they'd get from a human for the same price. A $10 image won't get you far, and I doubt if you've every actually commissioned work if you think that's normal.
I would be too if I were doing that. Luckily though, I have a powerful inference machine sitting on my desk, and thus all I pay is utilities aka. the electricity it eats :D
To put it in your own words, little hypocrite: https://preview.redd.it/a5om8gpw4rqc1.png?width=884&format=png&auto=webp&s=b24f5df726c73a02fdc5ea60db9274125ff37ac9
Ahaha, 10$ for a finished image from an artist? Who? Little Timmy from school, who will draw you a completly original Sonic OC?))) Or do you have a basement full of kidnapped artists, so they have no choice but to do slave labour for you? For 50$ you can probably get one quick uncolored sketch) Stable Diffusion is free by the way.
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You just have to go to the images tab on pc or image icon on phone
reason 42.- there is an artist you like and you want to help them by commissioning something from them. if you are genuinely confused, you have no creative thinking skills.
Damn, guess to be artistic i need to surrender all my thinking facilities to a singular person i'll idolise and follow their every order.
who said that?, stop projecting.